Request origins on following surnames: Alton Pavlak VanDuyser Thank you, Bill Waterhouse Mystic, CT USA < wm.r.waterhouse@mailstation.com >

ALTON (English) Habitation names from several sources in England. Hants, Dorset, and Wiltshire have places of that name that are at the sources of the rivers Wey, Piddle, and Avon respectively. In this case the name comes from the Old English "aewiell" (spring, source) + "tun" (enclosure, settlement). Alton in Derbyshire and Alton Grange in Leicestershire seem to have had as their first element Old English "(e)ald" (old"). Other examples derive from various Old English personal names such as in Staffordshire, the settlement "AElfa" (the first element = "elf"), one in Wiltshire from "AElla" and one in Worcestershire, recorded as "Eanulfintun" in 1023 seems to have come from "Eanwulf" (from an unknown element + "wulf" (wolf)). PAVLAK -Couldn't find as given but did find: \ PAVLIK (Czech.) Variation of " Little Paul". ---Source: A Dictionary of Surnames by Patrick Hanks and Flavia Hodges. VANDUYSER - ? Barbara Bill Waterhouse wrote: > Request origins on following surnames: > > Alton > > Pavlak > > VanDuyser > > Thank you, > Bill Waterhouse > Mystic, CT USA > < wm.r.waterhouse@mailstation.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

My cousin in Napa is grateful to you, Barbara. Me, too. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: LaChance Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 1:57 PM To: SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] AXE, AX AXE (English) One who lived on, or near, the Axe, the name of two rivers in England. ---Source: New Dictionary of American Family Names by Elsdon C. Smith. Barbara GARY RADCLIFFE wrote: > Received a request for the meaning of this name - AX and AXE. > Thought of Aix la Chappelle but there is an old English given > name of Aecce's Ford = Axford and Aecce's Ton = Axton. > The first element is an old given name, meaning still unknown > to me. > > Your help appreciated as always, > > Gary > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

AXE (English) One who lived on, or near, the Axe, the name of two rivers in England. ---Source: New Dictionary of American Family Names by Elsdon C. Smith. Barbara GARY RADCLIFFE wrote: > Received a request for the meaning of this name - AX and AXE. > Thought of Aix la Chappelle but there is an old English given > name of Aecce's Ford = Axford and Aecce's Ton = Axton. > The first element is an old given name, meaning still unknown > to me. > > Your help appreciated as always, > > Gary > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Received a request for the meaning of this name - AX and AXE. Thought of Aix la Chappelle but there is an old English given name of Aecce's Ford = Axford and Aecce's Ton = Axton. The first element is an old given name, meaning still unknown to me. Your help appreciated as always, Gary

WICK - One who dwelt at a small bay, inlet or creek. (Scandinavian) The English WICK denoted a dwelling, village, market-place, camp or castle. WICKMAN - (English) There is a possibility that the bearer of this name was a servant of a man named WICK, i.e., Wick's man. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Stan Wickman Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 8:27 AM To: SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] WICKMAN BTW, what might be the Scandinavian root for the name? ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

BTW, what might be the Scandinavian root for the name?

Sad to say, my PC crashed since I received the message from which I took the reference to WITCH. I cannot quote this reference. I looked in my Langenscheidt's in an attempt to "reverse engineer" the reference. I found "Wiege" = candle; "wiegen" (wog, gewogen) = weight; "weich" = soft; "weichen," = give way, yield; "er wich und wankte nich," = he didn't budge. Also, wichsen Wichtel Wichtelmaenn wichtig sich wichtig machen Wichtigtuer (-isch) Wicke wickeln Wickler Wicklung Nearly all of these could have been "occupations" which might have conferred the name upon the practitioner: candle maker's servant, polisher (or insult), goblin maker's servant, insult, insult (perhaps the insult was a truism that the lineage was stuck with?). Anyway, it's entertaining to search for clues. Maybe this will help define my roots if I find other clues elsewhere. Thanks for your kind attention. Kind regards Stan ----- Original Message ----- From: "LaChance" <lachance@ccis.com> To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] WICKMAN > Stan, > There are many variations of the name as listed in "A Dictionary of Surnames" and > all are listed as either variations or cognates of 'WICK'. > Variations: WHICK, WI(C)KE, WYKE, WEAKE, WICK(E)S, WIX, WYKES, WICKEN(S), WICKINS > (from the Old English 'wicum', with the addition of the Middle English plural suffix > -s), W(H)ICKER, W(H)ICKMAN, ATT(W)ICK. > Cognates: German - WIECK. Flemish - (VAN) WYCK, WYCKMAN. Dutch - (VAN) WIJK. > Witches as a source of the name was not mentioned in any of my sources. Could the > Old English root "wicum" be the basis of that argument? > Barbara > > > Stan Wickman wrote: > > > One more note from my rotting gray matter: another authority auf Deutsch > > once indicated the possibility that a word for 'WITCH" or "witchcraft" may > > be an origin of the German WICKMAN. > > > > Stan > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

<<but remind her that her email address begins with "cow." >> Hary, There's a reason for that. Long ago, I found a book on surnames in which it was stated that WICKMAN was an English name for a man who worked on a dairy farm. Reading along further, I also discovered that METCALF(e) (my wife's maiden name) was a name given to a man who lived near a dairy farm. I was struck by the coincidence and began to ponder if there isn't something to the idea of predestination. Thereafter, I dwelt on the cow as a theme for various acts of silliness. Among these was to choose the "handle," cownabor, for my e-mail and other enterprises. We now have a collection of bovine trivia, much to the Missus' consternation (she's not silly by nature). I did buy her a fine replica of a recumbent heifer in gilded Lenox china, but it didn't go very far to assuage her feelings. My childishness inspired our children and grandchildren to at least equal their sire in trivial frippery. I am now the proud possessor of a stuffed cow with a frame on its tummy into which I have inserted a photo of the young lady (a granddaughter) who presented me with it. I have a plastic cow that poops jelly beans when you force her to squat. I also have a beanie baby and a small assortment of other inanities. I found, in a small country store in the summer of 2001, a replica of a cow pie in chocolate. I brought it home and placed it on my bookshelf to smile about until I thought of some useful(?) purpose. At Halloween last year, when youngsters come to the door threatening to play a trick on us if we don't give them ransom in the form of candy or other acceptable snack food, a young lady of about 13 knocked and, when I discovered on going to the door that she was clothed head to foot in an excellent cow costume, I found a way to distract her while I dropped the chocolate joke into her satchel. They don't usually look at their swag until they get home to sort it out. I have only regretted that I could not be among the drapes in her living room when she came across the package in front of her parents or other companions. I laugh to think of it, but then, I react to my attempts to amuse others in that way as a rule. Stan ----- Original Message ----- From: "GARY RADCLIFFE" <glradcliffe@msn.com> To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] METCALFE > The name was originally Medcalfe. > > You must apologize to your wife for me but remind her that her email > address begins with "cow." > > It's a strange world sometimes and you have proven it. > > Hary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stan Wickman > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 9:49 AM > To: SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] METCALFE > > Thanks Gary, > > My Missus will forever think of you as the messenger with the bad news. > > 8<) > > Stan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "GARY RADCLIFFE" <glradcliffe@msn.com> > To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 2:18 AM > Subject: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] METCALFE > > > > METCALFE -Mad or silly calf. Nickname for a silly person. > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

The name was originally Medcalfe. You must apologize to your wife for me but remind her that her email address begins with "cow." It's a strange world sometimes and you have proven it. Hary ----- Original Message ----- From: Stan Wickman Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 9:49 AM To: SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] METCALFE Thanks Gary, My Missus will forever think of you as the messenger with the bad news. 8<) Stan ----- Original Message ----- From: "GARY RADCLIFFE" <glradcliffe@msn.com> To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 2:18 AM Subject: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] METCALFE > METCALFE -Mad or silly calf. Nickname for a silly person. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Thanks Gary, My Missus will forever think of you as the messenger with the bad news. 8<) Stan ----- Original Message ----- From: "GARY RADCLIFFE" <glradcliffe@msn.com> To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 2:18 AM Subject: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] METCALFE > METCALFE -Mad or silly calf. Nickname for a silly person. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hello, > WICKMAN (English) > 1. Someone who lived in an outlying settlement dependent upon a larger village. Wik (Danish Vik, German Wich/Wig, Low German Wik, Dutch Wijk) is ideed an (old) word for settlement. It's still used in Dutch to denote "quarter". (Brunswick, Waalwik, Steenwijk) However all the sources I have looked at give Wichmann/Wickmann/Wigmann as stemming from the Old German/Anglosaxon word "wig" meaning war. I'll check a few otehr books my local library, to see if any one of them give "Wikmann" as stemming from Wik/Wig = village. Regards, Ingolf Vogel

METCALFE -Mad or silly calf. Nickname for a silly person.

Thanks to Barbara and Ingolf for the explanation. Peter

One more note from my rotting gray matter: another authority auf Deutsch once indicated the possibility that a word for 'WITCH" or "witchcraft" may be an origin of the German WICKMAN. Stan

Many, many thanks, Ingolf. Stan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ingolf Vogel" <vogeling@freenet.de> To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] WICKMAN, METCALFE > Hello, > > > WICKMAN (English) > > 1. Someone who lived in an outlying settlement dependent upon a larger > village. > > Wik (Danish Vik, German Wich/Wig, Low German Wik, Dutch Wijk) is ideed an > (old) word for settlement. It's still used in Dutch to denote "quarter". > (Brunswick, Waalwik, Steenwijk) > However all the sources I have looked at give Wichmann/Wickmann/Wigmann as > stemming from the Old German/Anglosaxon word "wig" meaning war. > I'll check a few otehr books my local library, to see if any one of them > give "Wikmann" as stemming from Wik/Wig = village. > > Regards, > > Ingolf Vogel > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Yes. I spell it with a "k." There seems no doubt that the "k" accompanied Frederick and his wife, Mary GREINER, all the way from Deutschland. But this is not confirmed yet. My problems with the origin stem from the knowledge that WICKMANs with Scandinavian roots abound in Wisconsin and Minnesota. One such was Carl WICKMAN who began the Greyhound Bus Company. They built a monument to him in his hometown because of his generosity toward his roots. Couple that with the fact that Vikings swarmed over early England bringing their language and leaving progeny. According to Will Durant, the historian, the English word "wick" and the Scandinavian word "vik" have similar pronunciation and similar meaning: a small town. Blend those pieces of data with the knowledge that Scandinavians had access through Denmark to Deutschland and stir in the fact that the king of England was a Hannoverian who conscripted Englishmen to send to the aid of the Prussian resistance to Napoleon and you have myriad possibilities for the origin of a Hannoverian named WICKMAN. I inquired here to see if there were other observers of these conditions. I am eternally grateful to you for your response. If I can return the favor, please let me know. Stan ----- Original Message ----- From: "LaChance" <lachance@ccis.com> To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] WICKMAN > Stan, > I hate to attempt to contradict Ingolf since his knowledge of Germanic names is FAR > greater than mine, but according to "New Dictionary of American Family Names" by > E.C. Smith, "WICHMAN" and "WICKMAN" are two entirely different names. And, > according to the posting I received your spelling is with a "k", not an "h", right? > Barbara > > > Stan Wickman wrote: > > > Holy Mackerel!!! > > > > Thanks Ingolf. Vielen Dank. I shall try to use this info constructively. > > > > Stan > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ingolf Vogel" <vogeling@freenet.de> > > To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:35 AM > > Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] WICKMAN > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > Wiegmann, Wigmann, Wichmann are all the same name. Wig and Wich are > > > pronounced the same way in German. Often you have the spelling change back > > > and forth between Wigmann and Wichmann within a few years. Wichmann is a > > > VERY common name in northern Germany ! > > > > > > The name Wi(e)g(ch)mann is made up of the Germanic roots "wig" (war) and > > > "man" (man). > > > Variants include : Weichmann, Weickmann, Weigmann, Wichmann, Wiechmann, > > > Wickmann, Wigmann, all depending on local dialect and on the preference of > > > the priest - with frequent changes of the spelling. > > > > > > The German telephone directory lists : > > > > > > Wichmann 6050 > > > Wiechmann 2032 > > > Wigmann 42 > > > Wiegmann 1913 > > > Wieckmann 10 > > > Wiekmann 0 > > > Wickmann 122 > > > Wiekmann 0 > > > Weichmann 193 > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Ingolf Vogel > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Stan Wickman" <cownabor@htdconnect.com> > > > To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 6:42 AM > > > Subject: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] WICKMAN, METCALFE > > > > > > > > > > I have a reference that relates both WICKMAN and METCALFE to cows in > > > > England. This is fascinating to me because my wife is a METCALFE whose > > > roots > > > > lie in England and Ireland among other sources. > > > > > > > > There are a large number of Scandinavian WICKMANs in the USA, especially > > > > Wisconsin and Minnesota. > > > > > > > > My ancestors came from Hannover in Deutschland. There are apparently > > > several > > > > possibilities: Wiegmann, Wichmann, Wiechmann to name three. > > > > > > > > Will Durant, in his history, relates the English "wick" to the > > > Scandahoovian > > > > "vik" because of the Viking raids and the similar meanings of the words. > > > > > > > > What say you about the possibilities for the origin of WICKMAN? > > > METCALF(E)? > > > > > > > > Stan > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Thanks Barbara. The definitions numbered (WICKMAN) three and (METCALFE) two are as those in my reference. Unfortunately, my book is not at my fingertips so I can't confirm it is the same as you cite. Thanks again. I am hoping one day to find some connection, or disconnect, between England and Deutschland for the WICKMAN line. Stan ----- Original Message ----- From: "LaChance" <lachance@ccis.com> To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] WICKMAN, METCALFE > WICKMAN (English) > 1. Someone who lived in an outlying settlement dependent upon a larger village. > 2. Someone from a place named with this word, ie. in Berkshire, Gloucestershire, > Somerset, and Worcestershire. The term seems to have been used especially of an > outlying dairy farm or a salt works. (A Dictionary of Surnames by Patrick Hanks and > Flavia Hodges.) > 3. One who worked on a dairy farm. (New Dictionary of American Family Names by E.C. > Smith). > > METCALFE, METCALF (English [Yorkshire]) > 1. Of uncertain origin, probably from Middle English "metecalf" ('meat calf'), i.e. > a calf being fattened up to be slaughtered for meat at the end of the summer. It is > thus either a herdsman or slaughterer, or a nickname for a sleek and plump > individual. (A Dictionary of Surnames) > 2. Dweller at, or near, the meadow where calves were kept. (New Dictionary of > American Family Names) > Barbara > > Stan Wickman wrote: > > > I have a reference that relates both WICKMAN and METCALFE to cows in > > England. This is fascinating to me because my wife is a METCALFE whose roots > > lie in England and Ireland among other sources. > > > > There are a large number of Scandinavian WICKMANs in the USA, especially > > Wisconsin and Minnesota. > > > > My ancestors came from Hannover in Deutschland. There are apparently several > > possibilities: Wiegmann, Wichmann, Wiechmann to name three. > > > > Will Durant, in his history, relates the English "wick" to the Scandahoovian > > "vik" because of the Viking raids and the similar meanings of the words. > > > > What say you about the possibilities for the origin of WICKMAN? METCALF(E)? > > > > Stan > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Stan, There are many variations of the name as listed in "A Dictionary of Surnames" and all are listed as either variations or cognates of 'WICK'. Variations: WHICK, WI(C)KE, WYKE, WEAKE, WICK(E)S, WIX, WYKES, WICKEN(S), WICKINS (from the Old English 'wicum', with the addition of the Middle English plural suffix -s), W(H)ICKER, W(H)ICKMAN, ATT(W)ICK. Cognates: German - WIECK. Flemish - (VAN) WYCK, WYCKMAN. Dutch - (VAN) WIJK. Witches as a source of the name was not mentioned in any of my sources. Could the Old English root "wicum" be the basis of that argument? Barbara Stan Wickman wrote: > One more note from my rotting gray matter: another authority auf Deutsch > once indicated the possibility that a word for 'WITCH" or "witchcraft" may > be an origin of the German WICKMAN. > > Stan > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Holy Mackerel!!! Thanks Ingolf. Vielen Dank. I shall try to use this info constructively. Stan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ingolf Vogel" <vogeling@freenet.de> To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:35 AM Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] WICKMAN > Hello, > > Wiegmann, Wigmann, Wichmann are all the same name. Wig and Wich are > pronounced the same way in German. Often you have the spelling change back > and forth between Wigmann and Wichmann within a few years. Wichmann is a > VERY common name in northern Germany ! > > The name Wi(e)g(ch)mann is made up of the Germanic roots "wig" (war) and > "man" (man). > Variants include : Weichmann, Weickmann, Weigmann, Wichmann, Wiechmann, > Wickmann, Wigmann, all depending on local dialect and on the preference of > the priest - with frequent changes of the spelling. > > The German telephone directory lists : > > Wichmann 6050 > Wiechmann 2032 > Wigmann 42 > Wiegmann 1913 > Wieckmann 10 > Wiekmann 0 > Wickmann 122 > Wiekmann 0 > Weichmann 193 > > Regards, > > Ingolf Vogel > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stan Wickman" <cownabor@htdconnect.com> > To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 6:42 AM > Subject: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] WICKMAN, METCALFE > > > > I have a reference that relates both WICKMAN and METCALFE to cows in > > England. This is fascinating to me because my wife is a METCALFE whose > roots > > lie in England and Ireland among other sources. > > > > There are a large number of Scandinavian WICKMANs in the USA, especially > > Wisconsin and Minnesota. > > > > My ancestors came from Hannover in Deutschland. There are apparently > several > > possibilities: Wiegmann, Wichmann, Wiechmann to name three. > > > > Will Durant, in his history, relates the English "wick" to the > Scandahoovian > > "vik" because of the Viking raids and the similar meanings of the words. > > > > What say you about the possibilities for the origin of WICKMAN? > METCALF(E)? > > > > Stan > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >