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    1. [SURNAME-ORIGINS] Bitter and Krasuski
    2. Dreamcatcher
    3. Hello, I am hoping that someone might be able to tell me the origin of the two surnames Bitter and Krasuski / Kruzewki. I am at a brick wall to even start researching these two lines. Any and all help would be deeply appreciated Thank you all Patti All outgoing email was checked by Norton Anti Virus 2002 and is Virus Free.

    12/05/2002 10:27:48
    1. [SURNAME-ORIGINS] DE WEESE
    2. GARY RADCLIFFE
    3. Thanks, Ingolf. You've solved a puzzle of long standing. Those I have known with this name are Dutch. Gary Radcliffe West Covina, CA

    12/04/2002 07:29:40
    1. [SURNAME-ORIGINS] DE WEESE
    2. Ingolf Vogel
    3. WEESE/WESE is Low German / Dutch for meadow (modern German : Wiese) "De" is Dutch for the, i.e. Johan De Weese is "John (living on, owning) the meadow". Regards, Ingolf Vogel ----- Original Message ----- From: "GARY RADCLIFFE" <glradcliffe@msn.com> To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 3:10 AM Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] KEEVER / VAN DUYSER Hi Ingolf, Could this name be another spelling of DE WEESE? Or they totally unrelated? Gary Radcliffe West Covina, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: Ingolf Vogel Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 8:07 AM To: SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] KEEVER / VAN DUYSER Hello Malinda, There a lot of possibilities for "Duis", e.g. Duisans in France (near Lille, the area was inhabited by Flemish speaking people in the early Middle Ages), Duisburg in Germany or Belgium, Duizel in the Netherlands, etc. In addition there are likely to be quite a number of small farms and tiny villages that don't appear on any large scale maps. It's probably best to establish the region where your Van Duyser ancestors came from and then look at some very detailed maps of the area. KEEVER - from medieval German kever (modern German : Käfer, modern Dutch : kever) for beetle, worm, moth Regards, Ingolf Vogel ----- Original Message ----- From: "malinda" <mthiesse@swbell.net> To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PAVLAK / VAN DUYSER Thanks again Ingolf, Do you happen to know where Duys or Duysen might be located ? Also....have I asked you about the surname Keever ? ~malinda From: "Ingolf Vogel" <vogeling@freenet.de> To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PAVLAK / VAN DUYSER > Hello Malinda, > > Patronymical names are quite common in the German language area. In old > times people were called by their first name in combination with their > father's name (e.g. Peter son of Christian, Peter Christiansohn, Peter > Christiansen. > In your case, your ancestors came from a place calles Duys or Duysen. That > place (possibly a small farm or something similar) was named after > (according to theory No. 2) a person called Mattheus. > > Regards, > > Ingolf Vogel > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "malinda" <mthiesse@swbell.net> > To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 6:24 AM > Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PAVLAK / VAN DUYSER > > > Thank you kindly, Ingolf. > > Any ideas why they would use his name as their surname ? > ~malinda > > > > Hello Malida, > > > > Matthias and Matthäus/Mattheus are forms of the Hebrew name Mattai. > Matthew > > was one of the Evangelists. > > > > Regards, > > > > Ingolf Vogel > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "malinda" <mthiesse@swbell.net> > > To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 7:09 PM > > Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PAVLAK / VAN DUYSER > > > > > > Thank you Ingolf, > > > > One of my surnames is also derived from Matheus or Matthew. > > Can you tell me what Matheus or Matthew ? Who was this person ? > > > > ~malinda > > > > > > > > The ethomologists don't seem to be quite descided on what the Duis" part > > means. "Duis-" is quite common in place names in Western Germany and the > > Netherlands (Düssen, Düsseldorf, Duisburg, etc.) > > > > Possibitlity No 1. : the duis stemmes from the old indoeuropeans word > "dus" > > meaning decay or poison. > > Possibilty No. 2 : Duis is a shorted form of MaTHEUS. > > > > Regards, > > > > Ingolf Vogel > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    12/04/2002 02:15:39
    1. Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] KEEVER / VAN DUYSER
    2. GARY RADCLIFFE
    3. Hi Ingolf, Could this name be another spelling of DE WEESE? Or they totally unrelated? Gary Radcliffe West Covina, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: Ingolf Vogel Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 8:07 AM To: SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] KEEVER / VAN DUYSER Hello Malinda, There a lot of possibilities for "Duis", e.g. Duisans in France (near Lille, the area was inhabited by Flemish speaking people in the early Middle Ages), Duisburg in Germany or Belgium, Duizel in the Netherlands, etc. In addition there are likely to be quite a number of small farms and tiny villages that don't appear on any large scale maps. It's probably best to establish the region where your Van Duyser ancestors came from and then look at some very detailed maps of the area. KEEVER - from medieval German kever (modern German : Käfer, modern Dutch : kever) for beetle, worm, moth Regards, Ingolf Vogel ----- Original Message ----- From: "malinda" <mthiesse@swbell.net> To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PAVLAK / VAN DUYSER Thanks again Ingolf, Do you happen to know where Duys or Duysen might be located ? Also....have I asked you about the surname Keever ? ~malinda From: "Ingolf Vogel" <vogeling@freenet.de> To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PAVLAK / VAN DUYSER > Hello Malinda, > > Patronymical names are quite common in the German language area. In old > times people were called by their first name in combination with their > father's name (e.g. Peter son of Christian, Peter Christiansohn, Peter > Christiansen. > In your case, your ancestors came from a place calles Duys or Duysen. That > place (possibly a small farm or something similar) was named after > (according to theory No. 2) a person called Mattheus. > > Regards, > > Ingolf Vogel > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "malinda" <mthiesse@swbell.net> > To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 6:24 AM > Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PAVLAK / VAN DUYSER > > > Thank you kindly, Ingolf. > > Any ideas why they would use his name as their surname ? > ~malinda > > > > Hello Malida, > > > > Matthias and Matthäus/Mattheus are forms of the Hebrew name Mattai. > Matthew > > was one of the Evangelists. > > > > Regards, > > > > Ingolf Vogel > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "malinda" <mthiesse@swbell.net> > > To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 7:09 PM > > Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PAVLAK / VAN DUYSER > > > > > > Thank you Ingolf, > > > > One of my surnames is also derived from Matheus or Matthew. > > Can you tell me what Matheus or Matthew ? Who was this person ? > > > > ~malinda > > > > > > > > The ethomologists don't seem to be quite descided on what the Duis" part > > means. "Duis-" is quite common in place names in Western Germany and the > > Netherlands (Düssen, Düsseldorf, Duisburg, etc.) > > > > Possibitlity No 1. : the duis stemmes from the old indoeuropeans word > "dus" > > meaning decay or poison. > > Possibilty No. 2 : Duis is a shorted form of MaTHEUS. > > > > Regards, > > > > Ingolf Vogel > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    12/02/2002 11:10:29
    1. [SURNAME-ORIGINS] KEEVER / VAN DUYSER
    2. Ingolf Vogel
    3. Hello Malinda, There a lot of possibilities for "Duis", e.g. Duisans in France (near Lille, the area was inhabited by Flemish speaking people in the early Middle Ages), Duisburg in Germany or Belgium, Duizel in the Netherlands, etc. In addition there are likely to be quite a number of small farms and tiny villages that don't appear on any large scale maps. It's probably best to establish the region where your Van Duyser ancestors came from and then look at some very detailed maps of the area. KEEVER - from medieval German kever (modern German : Käfer, modern Dutch : kever) for beetle, worm, moth Regards, Ingolf Vogel ----- Original Message ----- From: "malinda" <mthiesse@swbell.net> To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PAVLAK / VAN DUYSER Thanks again Ingolf, Do you happen to know where Duys or Duysen might be located ? Also....have I asked you about the surname Keever ? ~malinda From: "Ingolf Vogel" <vogeling@freenet.de> To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PAVLAK / VAN DUYSER > Hello Malinda, > > Patronymical names are quite common in the German language area. In old > times people were called by their first name in combination with their > father's name (e.g. Peter son of Christian, Peter Christiansohn, Peter > Christiansen. > In your case, your ancestors came from a place calles Duys or Duysen. That > place (possibly a small farm or something similar) was named after > (according to theory No. 2) a person called Mattheus. > > Regards, > > Ingolf Vogel > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "malinda" <mthiesse@swbell.net> > To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 6:24 AM > Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PAVLAK / VAN DUYSER > > > Thank you kindly, Ingolf. > > Any ideas why they would use his name as their surname ? > ~malinda > > > > Hello Malida, > > > > Matthias and Matthäus/Mattheus are forms of the Hebrew name Mattai. > Matthew > > was one of the Evangelists. > > > > Regards, > > > > Ingolf Vogel > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "malinda" <mthiesse@swbell.net> > > To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 7:09 PM > > Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PAVLAK / VAN DUYSER > > > > > > Thank you Ingolf, > > > > One of my surnames is also derived from Matheus or Matthew. > > Can you tell me what Matheus or Matthew ? Who was this person ? > > > > ~malinda > > > > > > > > The ethomologists don't seem to be quite descided on what the Duis" part > > means. "Duis-" is quite common in place names in Western Germany and the > > Netherlands (Düssen, Düsseldorf, Duisburg, etc.) > > > > Possibitlity No 1. : the duis stemmes from the old indoeuropeans word > "dus" > > meaning decay or poison. > > Possibilty No. 2 : Duis is a shorted form of MaTHEUS. > > > > Regards, > > > > Ingolf Vogel > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    12/02/2002 09:45:18
    1. Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] KEEVER / VAN DUYSER
    2. malinda
    3. "beetle, worm, moth ".....???....eeouww. Um....van Duyser is not the surname I was enquiring about. I hopped onto someone else's query. My surname of interest was Thiessen which is said to devolve from "Matthew" . Since you said Duis did also...I wondered about the etymological connections and whether exploring Duis elements might provide clues to Thiessen (said to be of Flemish extraction). Thank you for your valuable input...what kind of "beetle, worm, moth" ??? Thanks again.....~malinda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ingolf Vogel" <vogeling@freenet.de> To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 9:45 AM Subject: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] KEEVER / VAN DUYSER > Hello Malinda, > > There a lot of possibilities for "Duis", e.g. Duisans in France (near Lille, > the area was inhabited by Flemish speaking people in the early Middle Ages), > Duisburg in Germany or Belgium, Duizel in the Netherlands, etc. In addition > there are likely to be quite a number of small farms and tiny villages that > don't appear on any large scale maps. It's probably best to establish the > region where your Van Duyser ancestors came from and then look at some very > detailed maps of the area. > > KEEVER - from medieval German kever (modern German : Käfer, modern Dutch : > kever) for beetle, worm, moth > > Regards, > > Ingolf Vogel > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "malinda" <mthiesse@swbell.net> > To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 9:28 AM > Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PAVLAK / VAN DUYSER > > > Thanks again Ingolf, > > Do you happen to know where Duys or Duysen might be located ? > Also....have I asked you about the surname Keever ? > > ~malinda > > > From: "Ingolf Vogel" <vogeling@freenet.de> > To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 1:03 AM > Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PAVLAK / VAN DUYSER > > > > Hello Malinda, > > > > Patronymical names are quite common in the German language area. In old > > times people were called by their first name in combination with their > > father's name (e.g. Peter son of Christian, Peter Christiansohn, Peter > > Christiansen. > > In your case, your ancestors came from a place calles Duys or Duysen. That > > place (possibly a small farm or something similar) was named after > > (according to theory No. 2) a person called Mattheus. > > > > Regards, > > > > Ingolf Vogel > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "malinda" <mthiesse@swbell.net> > > To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 6:24 AM > > Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PAVLAK / VAN DUYSER > > > > > > Thank you kindly, Ingolf. > > > > Any ideas why they would use his name as their surname ? > > ~malinda > > > > > > > Hello Malida, > > > > > > Matthias and Matthäus/Mattheus are forms of the Hebrew name Mattai. > > Matthew > > > was one of the Evangelists. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Ingolf Vogel > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "malinda" <mthiesse@swbell.net> > > > To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 7:09 PM > > > Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PAVLAK / VAN DUYSER > > > > > > > > > Thank you Ingolf, > > > > > > One of my surnames is also derived from Matheus or Matthew. > > > Can you tell me what Matheus or Matthew ? Who was this person ? > > > > > > ~malinda > > > > > > > > > > > > The ethomologists don't seem to be quite descided on what the Duis" > part > > > means. "Duis-" is quite common in place names in Western Germany and > the > > > Netherlands (Düssen, Düsseldorf, Duisburg, etc.) > > > > > > Possibitlity No 1. : the duis stemmes from the old indoeuropeans word > > "dus" > > > meaning decay or poison. > > > Possibilty No. 2 : Duis is a shorted form of MaTHEUS. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Ingolf Vogel > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    12/02/2002 05:56:02
    1. Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PAVLAK / VAN DUYSER
    2. Ingolf Vogel
    3. Hello Malinda, Patronymical names are quite common in the German language area. In old times people were called by their first name in combination with their father's name (e.g. Peter son of Christian, Peter Christiansohn, Peter Christiansen. In your case, your ancestors came from a place calles Duys or Duysen. That place (possibly a small farm or something similar) was named after (according to theory No. 2) a person called Mattheus. Regards, Ingolf Vogel ----- Original Message ----- From: "malinda" <mthiesse@swbell.net> To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 6:24 AM Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PAVLAK / VAN DUYSER Thank you kindly, Ingolf. Any ideas why they would use his name as their surname ? ~malinda > Hello Malida, > > Matthias and Matthäus/Mattheus are forms of the Hebrew name Mattai. Matthew > was one of the Evangelists. > > Regards, > > Ingolf Vogel > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "malinda" <mthiesse@swbell.net> > To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 7:09 PM > Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PAVLAK / VAN DUYSER > > > Thank you Ingolf, > > One of my surnames is also derived from Matheus or Matthew. > Can you tell me what Matheus or Matthew ? Who was this person ? > > ~malinda > > > > The ethomologists don't seem to be quite descided on what the Duis" part > means. "Duis-" is quite common in place names in Western Germany and the > Netherlands (Düssen, Düsseldorf, Duisburg, etc.) > > Possibitlity No 1. : the duis stemmes from the old indoeuropeans word "dus" > meaning decay or poison. > Possibilty No. 2 : Duis is a shorted form of MaTHEUS. > > Regards, > > Ingolf Vogel

    12/02/2002 01:03:33
    1. Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PAVLAK / VAN DUYSER
    2. malinda
    3. Thanks again Ingolf, Do you happen to know where Duys or Duysen might be located ? Also....have I asked you about the surname Keever ? ~malinda From: "Ingolf Vogel" <vogeling@freenet.de> To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PAVLAK / VAN DUYSER > Hello Malinda, > > Patronymical names are quite common in the German language area. In old > times people were called by their first name in combination with their > father's name (e.g. Peter son of Christian, Peter Christiansohn, Peter > Christiansen. > In your case, your ancestors came from a place calles Duys or Duysen. That > place (possibly a small farm or something similar) was named after > (according to theory No. 2) a person called Mattheus. > > Regards, > > Ingolf Vogel > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "malinda" <mthiesse@swbell.net> > To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 6:24 AM > Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PAVLAK / VAN DUYSER > > > Thank you kindly, Ingolf. > > Any ideas why they would use his name as their surname ? > ~malinda > > > > Hello Malida, > > > > Matthias and Matthäus/Mattheus are forms of the Hebrew name Mattai. > Matthew > > was one of the Evangelists. > > > > Regards, > > > > Ingolf Vogel > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "malinda" <mthiesse@swbell.net> > > To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 7:09 PM > > Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PAVLAK / VAN DUYSER > > > > > > Thank you Ingolf, > > > > One of my surnames is also derived from Matheus or Matthew. > > Can you tell me what Matheus or Matthew ? Who was this person ? > > > > ~malinda > > > > > > > > The ethomologists don't seem to be quite descided on what the Duis" part > > means. "Duis-" is quite common in place names in Western Germany and the > > Netherlands (Düssen, Düsseldorf, Duisburg, etc.) > > > > Possibitlity No 1. : the duis stemmes from the old indoeuropeans word > "dus" > > meaning decay or poison. > > Possibilty No. 2 : Duis is a shorted form of MaTHEUS. > > > > Regards, > > > > Ingolf Vogel > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    12/01/2002 07:28:16
    1. Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PAVLAK / VAN DUYSER
    2. Ingolf Vogel
    3. Hello Malida, Matthias and Matthäus/Mattheus are forms of the Hebrew name Mattai. Matthew was one of the Evangelists. Regards, Ingolf Vogel ----- Original Message ----- From: "malinda" <mthiesse@swbell.net> To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PAVLAK / VAN DUYSER Thank you Ingolf, One of my surnames is also derived from Matheus or Matthew. Can you tell me what Matheus or Matthew ? Who was this person ? ~malinda The ethomologists don't seem to be quite descided on what the Duis" part means. "Duis-" is quite common in place names in Western Germany and the Netherlands (Düssen, Düsseldorf, Duisburg, etc.) Possibitlity No 1. : the duis stemmes from the old indoeuropeans word "dus" meaning decay or poison. Possibilty No. 2 : Duis is a shorted form of MaTHEUS. Regards, Ingolf Vogel ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    11/26/2002 05:36:52
    1. Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PAVLAK / VAN DUYSER
    2. malinda
    3. Thank you kindly, Ingolf. Any ideas why they would use his name as their surname ? ~malinda > Hello Malida, > > Matthias and Matthäus/Mattheus are forms of the Hebrew name Mattai. Matthew > was one of the Evangelists. > > Regards, > > Ingolf Vogel > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "malinda" <mthiesse@swbell.net> > To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 7:09 PM > Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PAVLAK / VAN DUYSER > > > Thank you Ingolf, > > One of my surnames is also derived from Matheus or Matthew. > Can you tell me what Matheus or Matthew ? Who was this person ? > > ~malinda > > > > The ethomologists don't seem to be quite descided on what the Duis" part > means. "Duis-" is quite common in place names in Western Germany and the > Netherlands (Düssen, Düsseldorf, Duisburg, etc.) > > Possibitlity No 1. : the duis stemmes from the old indoeuropeans word "dus" > meaning decay or poison. > Possibilty No. 2 : Duis is a shorted form of MaTHEUS. > > Regards, > > Ingolf Vogel

    11/26/2002 04:24:57
    1. Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] Krein
    2. Sarah Krein
    3. Hi Ingolf, Thank you. The name Krein (pronounced Krane) comes from Russia/Latvia/Lithuania. Best regards Sarah ----- Original Message ----- From: Ingolf Vogel <vogeling@freenet.de> To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] Krein > Hello, > > > KREIN, KREINER (Ger.) One who came from Krein or Kreina, the names of > towns in > > Germany. > > The name Kreiner derives from the word Krain (indeed also the name of a > couple of villages in Bavaria & Austria). There was also an Austrian > Province "Krain", which was rough equivalent to what is now western > Slowenia. > Krain is the German version of the slavic word "krajna" which means > something like province. > > Regards, > > Ingolf Vogel > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    11/26/2002 01:48:34
    1. [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PAVLAK / VAN DUYSER
    2. Ingolf Vogel
    3. > Pavlak Pavlak - Czech name derived from the name Paul/Paulus > VanDuyser The ethomologists don't seem to be quite descided on what the Duis" part means. "Duis-" is quite common in place names in Western Germany and the Netherlands (Düssen, Düsseldorf, Duisburg, etc.) Possibitlity No 1. : the duis stemmes from the old indoeuropeans word "dus" meaning decay or poison. Possibilty No. 2 : Duis is a shorted form of MaTHEUS. Regards, Ingolf Vogel

    11/26/2002 07:56:03
    1. Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PAVLAK / VAN DUYSER
    2. malinda
    3. Thank you Ingolf, One of my surnames is also derived from Matheus or Matthew. Can you tell me what Matheus or Matthew ? Who was this person ? ~malinda The ethomologists don't seem to be quite descided on what the Duis" part means. "Duis-" is quite common in place names in Western Germany and the Netherlands (Düssen, Düsseldorf, Duisburg, etc.) Possibitlity No 1. : the duis stemmes from the old indoeuropeans word "dus" meaning decay or poison. Possibilty No. 2 : Duis is a shorted form of MaTHEUS. Regards, Ingolf Vogel

    11/26/2002 05:09:43
    1. Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] BRETZ
    2. Ingolf Vogel
    3. Hello, BRETZ(EL) - person that made Pretzels (Bretzel), i.e. a baker. If the name originates from the north-eastern part of Germany it could also be a shortend form of the Werndish name Pretzlaff. Regards, Ingolf Vogel ----- Original Message ----- From: "GARY RADCLIFFE" <glradcliffe@msn.com> To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:31 AM Subject: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] BRETZ > BRETZ - May I have a lookup on this German name? Anything to do with wood or lumber? >

    11/26/2002 03:50:41
    1. Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] BRETZ
    2. GARY RADCLIFFE
    3. Many thanks, Ingolf. We are going to educate a lot of people with this one. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Ingolf Vogel Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 1:53 AM To: SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] BRETZ Hello, BRETZ(EL) - person that made Pretzels (Bretzel), i.e. a baker. If the name originates from the north-eastern part of Germany it could also be a shortend form of the Werndish name Pretzlaff. Regards, Ingolf Vogel ----- Original Message ----- From: "GARY RADCLIFFE" <glradcliffe@msn.com> To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:31 AM Subject: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] BRETZ > BRETZ - May I have a lookup on this German name? Anything to do with wood or lumber? > ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    11/25/2002 07:19:23
    1. [SURNAME-ORIGINS] BRETZ
    2. GARY RADCLIFFE
    3. BRETZ - May I have a lookup on this German name? Anything to do with wood or lumber? Thanks, Gary

    11/25/2002 06:31:15
    1. Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] ELLIOTT
    2. Lanita Sconce Miller
    3. Thanks to ALL for the help!! Any idea what ELLIOTT means? Lanita

    11/24/2002 01:33:38
    1. [SURNAME-ORIGINS] ELLIOTT
    2. Lanita Sconce Miller
    3. Hi, I am a new subscriber and trying to find the origins and meaning of the surname ELLIOTT. Any help is appreciated! Lanita Sconce Miller

    11/24/2002 08:25:11
    1. Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] ELLIOTT
    2. John DeMott
    3. The English surnames Ellis, Ellison, Elias, Elliot and others all are derived from the biblical name Elijah. John --- Lanita Sconce Miller <ozarkn@southwind.net> wrote: > Hi, > > I am a new subscriber and trying to find the > origins and meaning of the > surname ELLIOTT. > > Any help is appreciated! > Lanita Sconce Miller > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus � Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

    11/24/2002 08:19:28
    1. [SURNAME-ORIGINS] MCELLIGOTT ORIGIN...
    2. W. X. McElligott
    3. AD1297: Mary MacElligott, md. Maurice Fitz Maurice. Her marriage dowry included lands of Galey, O’Brennan, and Cloghanmackin. "Lodge's Peerage" says that in the 13th century that a Fitzmaurice was married to the daughter of Sir John McLeod of Galway and that others of this family of McLeod settled in Co. Kerry. The name of McLeod was changed to MacElligot, thus giving the MacElligot family a pedigree from the noted Scots clan McLeod. The reliability of this alleged name change has not been confirmed. Other sources indicate that MacElligot is a truncated form of MacGillicutty, (i.e. Mac Gillicut = Mac Elligott). 1584, Ulick Mac Thomas Eligot of Carrignefeilge held Bally Mac Elligott, Tullygarron, granted to Sir Thomas proper in 1613. 1588, Morris mac Eligott held Ballygrillaghe Castle. 1588, w/ Tralee in ruins, the Dennys used Ballingrilough castle as the manor house. It was afterwards the home of Wm. Ryeves and Alice Spring. Mr. Verdon lived here in 1756. Arabella was a third castle of the MacElligotts. 1597, the lands of Thomas MacElligott in Galey and of John Mac Thomas were granted to Edmond Barrett and Wm. O'Ronan and George Isham and Thomas Fitz Maurice, the Baron of Lixnaw. 1600 (?) Ballingrilough Castle belonged to the MacElligotts. (BallyMacElligott Parish). Carrignafeela, the stone fort of the poets, was another macElligott castle, where Arthur Denny died in 1619. The parish of BallymacElligot is said to be named after another old family of Co. Kerry. 1630, Daniel Chute. acquired Chute Hall by marriage from the Mac Elligotts. Richard Chute lived here in 1756. 1688, Col. Roger Mac Elligott of Bally Mac Elligott raised a foot regiment, which served in England. Col. Roger was M.P. for Ardfert in 1689; he surrendered Cork City as Governor in 1689, fought at the Battle of the Boyne, was a prisoner in the Tower of London until 1697; was exchanged to France and took command of the regiment de Clancarty of the Irish Brigade. 1745, Roger Mac Elligott's son, Capt. CharlesMac Elligott, won the Cross-of St. Louis at Fontenoy. J. King reported Dr. Maurice G. Mac Elligott researched Austria and Europe for individuals of the name, and listed several of the family members in his work. Several names were found in the Austrian Army, including Baron MacElligott who was born at Tralee in 1752, entering the Austrian army in 1770 and was buried at Saint Jakob's Church in Brunn. In "The History of Ballymacelligott and Its People", published 1997 by Ballymacelligott Active Retirement Association Printed by Kingdom Printers. (Paperback, 156 pages). On page 13 is a somewhat rambling article "McElligott's Castle" attributed to Fr. John O'Donovan (1841), which begins: "In the center of the townland of Arabella in this parish are the ruins of a castle called McElligott's W/ thanx to the Many before me, God Bless, Walter McElligott <wmcauth05@juno.com> P.O. Box 452 Beecher, IL 60401-0452 MCELLIGOTT-L@Rootsweb.com ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

    11/23/2002 08:27:40