As promised, I now have some dates for my information, taken from the SSDI and Ruby's Surgener page at http://home.rmci.net/adamewa/index.htm. John R. Surginer m. Mrs. Mary Ann Cantrell Hill Oct. 9, 1890, in Parker, Co., TX. Their son, my great-GF, Ernest (01/28/1892-03/1964) m. (07/01/15) Ruby Mae Ingram (01/03/1896-09/1980) Their four daughters include: Ethel Louise (06/18/16-) m. Walter Earl Hempel (one daughter) Evelyn (04/07/18-01/13/97) m. Paddy Garland (a son, a daughter); also married a Robertson and Sylvester, no children by either. Rosalyn (1920-) m. Michael Theodore Smith (a son, a daughter) Mary Nadine (192?-1977) m. ?? Burns (two daughters) Please let me know if this info is of interest to anyone. I also have a little bit more on Mary Ann's family. I was glad to get a "lead" on the Surginer name (being most likely Irish), as I had not known that before. Thanks for any help, Kim Elkins