Hi Jackson, Thanks for the reference, yes it certainly does look like the right one. As far as l know there is a family plot in Kirkinriola Cemetery Rathkenny. To the best of my knowledge Mary is there along with her Father James and others. The information that l have came from newspaper cuttings of the time. Yes James was manager of the Antrim Iron Ore Company for many years and in total worked for the company for 27 years. There was a presentation made to James and Mary Ann in Little Ballymena of mathematical instruments and a silver tea service. The presentation was the first to take place in the North of Ireland for anyone of note. James was a native of Ballymena, leaving whilst still young to work in the coal mines of Scotland. l firmly believe that James Surgeoner was not a Captain, but his son James Alexander Surgeoner was. l have a few newspaper cuttings, so if you want to forward me your snail mail addy, l will photocopy them for you, they are not in very good condition, but readable and whoever cut them out of the paper did not include dates. Can you give me an address for an agency that l can obtain the marriage certificate through, it is very hard getting certs for Ireland here in Australia. l have other bit's and pieces, when l sort them all out l will put it all on PAF, but it is to splintered at the moment. l also have a few photo's l can send. Will wait to hear from you Regards Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 6:28 PM Subject: RE: [SURGENER-L] SURGEONER Ballymena Antrim > Hi Sue > > Have you ever ordered the marriage record for James to find out who his > father was (and also the father of Mary Anne) > > I live in Co Antrim and order quite often from Dublin, I think I have a > volume and page reference for the marriage of James. > > If you already have a copy could you let me know who the parents were for my > records. > > If you check my web site http://www.vyger.fsnet.co.uk under Surgenor > marriages I believe the one you are looking for is reference number 5383 > which would then match with 1760 once proved. > > I have printed below a summary of what I know of the family from available > records here in Ireland. The other children may have been born in Scotland > of I have not been able to check the records here yet to prove parentage. > > I was informed once that James was buried in Broughshane. I have walked the > three cemeteries there and not found one Surgenor headstone, do you know > where he is buried? > > Let me know if I can help. > > Jackson > > > > > Descendants of Capt? James Surgener - 6 Apr 2001 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > --- > > FIRST GENERATION > > 1. Capt? James Surgener was born on May 21, 1852 in Rathkenny, > Broughshane?. He was a Labourer in 1877. He was a Sub Manager of Iron Ore > Mine in 1882. He died on December 19, 1918 in Rathkenny, Broughshane?. > > He was married to Mary Anne Alexander on January 4, 1873 in Broughshane, > Antrim, Ireland. Mary Anne Alexander was born before 1855 in a place > unknown. She died on February 21, 1933 in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. She > was buried on February 23, 1933 in Norway Cemetery, Toronto, Canada. Her > obituary read as follows and appeared in the. Capt? James Surgener and Mary > Anne Alexander had the following children: > > 2 i. David Charles Surgeoner was born on May 29, 1877 in Loughcouley?, > Skerry. > 3 ii. John George Surgener was born on August 13, 1882 in Tullymore, > Skerry. > > > Prepared by: > Jackson Eagleson > 4 Berry Crescent > Old Carrick Road > Newtownabbey > [email protected] > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sue Adamson [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: 05 April 2001 04:57 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [SURGENER-L] SURGEONER Ballymena Antrim > > > > > > Dear Listers, > > > > Would like to re-run my interests...... > > > > James SURGEONER b 21st May 1852 Rathkenny Antrim parents unknown :o( > > married > > Mary Ann ALEXANDER 4th Jan 1873 Broughshane Antrim > > James died 19th Dec 1918 Rathkenny and is buried in Kirkinrola Cem > > Mary Ann died/buried 23rd Feb 1932 Toronto Canada and buried in > > Norway Cem. > > > > Their Children, some born in Ballymena others in Greenock Scotland :- > > Elizabeth Ann 1871 > > James Alexander 1875 > > David Charles 1877 > > Elizabeth Ann 1878 > > Francis Gendall 1880 > > George 1882 > > Mary Ellen 1884 > > Maggie Jane 1886 > > John 1888 > > Robert Pettigrew 1893 > > > > Most of these children ended up in Canada. James Alexander > > settled in Australia and David Charles l believe settled in > > Belfast. Mary Ellen died in Rathkenny. > > > > Regards > > Sue > > > > > > ==== SURGENER Mailing List ==== > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > To unsubscribe, send the message "unsubscribe" without the quotes to: > > [email protected] > > > > ============================== > > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > > > > > ==== SURGENER Mailing List ==== > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > To unsubscribe, send the message "unsubscribe" without the quotes to: > [email protected] > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >