Surgener researchers: Except for Billie Groening, I have not received anything to put on the webpages. You must have something: marriages, death notices, censuses, wills and/or estate records, deeds, etc., that you've collected in your research. It might just be the thing to helps somebody else. I've shared everything I have; we need others to share, too, if we're ever going to hope to put the Surgeners together back to the first John. Ruby