I did get one of Claude Wrathall's descent charts uploaded. He also sent a more detailed chart so the one at: http://home.rmci.net/adamewa/famgroup.htm will probably be changed and updated when I return. See near bottom of webpage: "By Claude Wrathall - The is a following four-generation descendancy chart starting with a George Surgeoner who was born in Ireland (location unknown) but migrated to Ayrshire, Scotland before his marriage in 1819." Ruby