1860 SURGEN, Francis Louisa Co. p.1030 Concord Twp. Out of 267 soundex hits, this was the ONLY one that came close to Surgener or Sojourner. Amazing, huh? Tina Hall list admin.:Byrd-L, Surgener-L

1840 SORGNER, William Cook Co. p.049 Chicago E.D. 111 W. 12 1850 SCHRGNER, Peter Cook Co. p. 202 Chicago 3rd Ward SHURGEON, Eli Champaign Co. p.103 21st District SHURGEON, Mary Champaign Co. p.103 21st District SURGEON, Barbery Knox Co. p.427 12 N 4 E SURGON, Margarite Cook Co. p.419 Chicago 9th Ward SURGZNS, William Marion Co. p.33 11th District 1860 SEGOURNEY, Henrietta Iroquois Co. p.162 Ashkum SERGEN, Thomas Mercer co. p.1048 Eliza 1880 SIGOURNEY, C. W. Cook co. p. 289 Chicago E.D. 30 I left and came back to this, so I hope I finished it up. It has been a long day for me. I will send out more as I find them. Tina Hall [email protected] list admin.:Byrd-L, Surgener-L Tina's Family Genealogy Page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~thall Steve's and Tina's Home pages: http://home1.gte.net/~res00waz/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "If you cannot get rid of the family skeleton, make it dance!" ~ George Bernard Shaw +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

1850 SCRGNEGIONR, John Clark Co. p. 150 Jeffersonville Twp. (This is how it's listed on Ancestry from the index. There could be some misinterpretation on the spelling, but I included it because it could be someone's relative on this list.) SHURGEON, John Parke Co. p.250 Union Twp. SOUEREIGN, David Elkhart Co. p.48 Washington Twp. SOUEREIGN, Lewis H. Elkhart Co. p.48 Washington Twp. SUERGMAN, Hermon Franklin Co. p.407 Ray Twp. SURGEON, David Jr. Jackson Co. p.232 Grassy Fork Twp. SURGEON, Josep Jackson Co. p.116 Salt Creek Twp. 1860 SEURGEION, Sarah E. Clark Co. p.34 Carr Twp. SHERZINGER, Margaret Spencer Co. P.136 Carter Twp. SHERZINGER, Mathias Spencer Co. p.136 Carter Twp. That was it for Indiana. I used the soundex and tried to get those that matched as close to the surname as possible. These seemed like the most likely to be mistaken for the true name. Tina Hall list admin.: Byrd-L, Surgener-L

1800 SOJURNER, Hardy Lincoln Co. NO township listed (This is one of mine ! ! !) (I didn't know he was in Lincoln county! His sister Elizabeth was born in Crab Orchard, Lincoln co., KY in 1795. Looks like I need to take a trip back to the archives to pull out the 1800 Lincoln county census!) Tina Hall list admin.: Byrd-L, Surgener-L

1840 SERGNER, B. F. Muscogee Co. p.294 448th District, 5th Ward That was the only one. Tina Hall [email protected] Tina's Family Genealogy Page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~thall Steve's and Tina's Home pages: http://home1.gte.net/~res00waz/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "If you cannot get rid of the family skeleton, make it dance!" ~ George Bernard Shaw +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Hi All My web page on Irish Surgenor facts has been updated to inculde approximate birth years on all Surgenor death facts, better navigation and quicker loading. The url is http://www.vyger.fsnet.co.uk If anyone has anything worth including I would love to hear, particularly any facts of Surgenors emigrating from Ireland to far off lands. Happy Easter Jackson

Tina Said: Ruby took herself off the management of this list because > she was being bombarded with a ton of SPAM because someone had harvested > e-mail addresses off her web site, and put this mailing list upon a junk > mail list. Darryl then attempted to run the list, and was also bombarded > with a ton of Spam, so he handed the list back to Rootsweb to deal with and > I understand that and applaud his efforts. ************** Slight Correction Tina ! No SPAM,s were generated from Ruby,s email address listings.! on her list. The SPAM,s are generated through the Roots Web Main Email Server.!!! using "WorldWide" Relay Sites.! Then using the Listowner at [email protected] Address for SPAM mailing. Darryl.

It has been brought to my attention that some of you have forgotten that Ruby no longer maintains our mailing list. Anyone who has a question concerning our mailing list should contact me privately at: [email protected] I will be more than happy to answer any questions, help with subbing and unsubbing, etc. Ruby took herself off the management of this list because she was being bombarded with a ton of SPAM because someone had harvested e-mail addresses off her web site, and put this mailing list upon a junk mail list. Darryl then attempted to run the list, and was also bombarded with a ton of Spam, so he handed the list back to Rootsweb to deal with and I understand that and applaud his efforts. Ruby and Darryl's efforts to stop the spamming of the list were eventually successful. I do not get very many Spam letters, however some are still coming through, and I am dealing with them. (Thanks, Ruby & Darryl for your help!) When I took over the list, there was nobody managing our list, except Rootsweb themselves. Each list has a utilities page which gives the manager access to the maintaining of their list. I am the only person with access to it, and have been the only one with access since I took over the list. We currently have 40 members on our mailing list. I intend to start sending more data to the list as I had intended to do a while back. I had an upgrade done to my PC, and in the middle of the upgrade, my hard drive crashed, so I have been working on getting myself back together. I hope to see our list grow more active soon. Tina Hall [email protected] SURGENER mailing list admin. [email protected] Tina's Family Genealogy Page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~thall Steve's and Tina's Home pages: http://home1.gte.net/~res00waz/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "If you cannot get rid of the family skeleton, make it dance!" ~ George Bernard Shaw +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Thanks Berny, have sent email, will let you know what they say .. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Goodheart, Berny" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 11:59 PM Subject: RE: [SURGENER-L] Surgenor: Balymena, Antrim > Sue, > You may find this interesting: http://www.highkirk.org.uk/history.htm > > You may want to email them and ask. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sue Adamson [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 09 April 2001 14:07 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SURGENER-L] Surgenor: Balymena, Antrim > > > Berny, > Be a love and do us a favour when you visit Ballymena. Ask your cousin if > Kirkinriola cemetery still exists. That is where my SURGEONERS are supposed > to be buried, but l cannot find where it is. It's in the area of Ballymena, > Rathkenny and Broughshane. > Thanks > Sue > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Goodheart, Berny" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 11:03 PM > Subject: RE: [SURGENER-L] Surgenor: Balymena, Antrim > > > > Hi Sue, > > Yes I am aware of the Surgenors/Surgeoners in Australia and NZ. > > I know of one Surgenor family there that are definitely my family but they > > are not connected to the others (at least not yet). This Surgenor family > is > > part of my direct lineage. > > I am not able to make the connection to other Surgenors in this part of > the > > world yet but I agree > > they are probably cousins as they came from Ballymena. Especially if they > > are Presbyterians. > > The only notes I have for our James is that he went to Australia and back > to > > Portglenone and then back to Ballymoney. I will be visiting a cousin in > > Ballymena next month and will ask her if she knows more. > > I have a bunch of questions to ask her and I hope to tie a bunch of the > > loose ends up soon. > > My cousin is very knowledgeable about our family roots. At least > everything > > she has told us so far has turned out to be factual. Watch this space. > > > > Cheers, > > Berny > > Liverpool, England > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sue Adamson [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: 09 April 2001 10:02 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [SURGENER-L] Surgenor: Balymena, Antrim > > > > > > Hi Berny, > > What information do you have on your James that came to Australia, > although > > most of the direct family that l am searching went to Canada, there must > > have been cousins, nephews and nieces left in the Ballymena area, there > are > > a few SURGEONERS over here in Aust, being the descendants of Ballymena > > people. > > Regards > > Sue > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Goodheart, Berny" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 7:55 PM > > Subject: [SURGENER-L] Surgenor: Balymena, Antrim > > > > > > > > > > Hi there, > > > I have seen a lot of action recently on this list so I thought I would > > > repost my details just in case it rings any bells with anyone. > > > Surgenor is my paternal grandmother's lineage. My Surgenors came from > > > Balymena, Antrim, NI. > > > > > > 1 George?? Surgenor, Brocklamont/Ballymena. > > > . +unknown > > > ..... 2 John Surgenor - 12 May 1887, Ballyclose/Ballymena > > > ....... +Isabella (Belle) Spence after 1887 Kells/Ballymena > > > ........... 3 George Surgenor 1834 - 2 Feb 1864, Ballyclose > > > ............. +Margaret (Peggy) McIlwraith/McIlwrath/McElrath 15 Sep > > 1829 - > > > 5 Feb 1897, Cullybackey > > > ................. 4 William Surgenor 29 Apr 1862, Ballyclose > > > ................. 4 James Surgenor 25 Mar 1860, Ballyclose > > > ....................+ Sarah Craig McFall/McFaul 25 May 1858, Craigs Co. > > > Antrim > > > .......... 3 James Surgenor, Antrim Town > > > ........... 3 Sarah Surgenor > > > ............. +James Johnston > > > ........... 3 Ann Surgenor 1836, probably Ballymena > > > ............. +Will Taylor > > > ................. 4 Samual Taylor a.k.a. Surgenor 2 Jun 1869 > > > ................. 4 Mathew Taylor > > > .......... 3 William Surgenor 15 Sep 1843, Ballymena > > > ........... 3 Thomas Hugh Surgenor 20 Oct 1846, probably Ballymena > > > ..... 2 James Surgenor Ballymoney/Portglenone and Australia > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SURGENER Mailing List ==== > > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > To unsubscribe, send the message "unsubscribe" without the quotes to: > > > [email protected] > > > > > > ============================== > > > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > > > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > > > > > > > > ==== SURGENER Mailing List ==== > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > To unsubscribe, send the message "unsubscribe" without the quotes to: > > [email protected] > > > > ============================== > > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > > > > > ==== SURGENER Mailing List ==== > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > To unsubscribe, send the message "unsubscribe" without the quotes to: > > [email protected] > > > > ============================== > > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > > > > > ==== SURGENER Mailing List ==== > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > To unsubscribe, send the message "unsubscribe" without the quotes to: > [email protected] > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > ==== SURGENER Mailing List ==== > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > To unsubscribe, send the message "unsubscribe" without the quotes to: > [email protected] > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

Berny, Be a love and do us a favour when you visit Ballymena. Ask your cousin if Kirkinriola cemetery still exists. That is where my SURGEONERS are supposed to be buried, but l cannot find where it is. It's in the area of Ballymena, Rathkenny and Broughshane. Thanks Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Goodheart, Berny" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 11:03 PM Subject: RE: [SURGENER-L] Surgenor: Balymena, Antrim > Hi Sue, > Yes I am aware of the Surgenors/Surgeoners in Australia and NZ. > I know of one Surgenor family there that are definitely my family but they > are not connected to the others (at least not yet). This Surgenor family is > part of my direct lineage. > I am not able to make the connection to other Surgenors in this part of the > world yet but I agree > they are probably cousins as they came from Ballymena. Especially if they > are Presbyterians. > The only notes I have for our James is that he went to Australia and back to > Portglenone and then back to Ballymoney. I will be visiting a cousin in > Ballymena next month and will ask her if she knows more. > I have a bunch of questions to ask her and I hope to tie a bunch of the > loose ends up soon. > My cousin is very knowledgeable about our family roots. At least everything > she has told us so far has turned out to be factual. Watch this space. > > Cheers, > Berny > Liverpool, England > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sue Adamson [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 09 April 2001 10:02 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SURGENER-L] Surgenor: Balymena, Antrim > > > Hi Berny, > What information do you have on your James that came to Australia, although > most of the direct family that l am searching went to Canada, there must > have been cousins, nephews and nieces left in the Ballymena area, there are > a few SURGEONERS over here in Aust, being the descendants of Ballymena > people. > Regards > Sue > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Goodheart, Berny" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 7:55 PM > Subject: [SURGENER-L] Surgenor: Balymena, Antrim > > > > > > Hi there, > > I have seen a lot of action recently on this list so I thought I would > > repost my details just in case it rings any bells with anyone. > > Surgenor is my paternal grandmother's lineage. My Surgenors came from > > Balymena, Antrim, NI. > > > > 1 George?? Surgenor, Brocklamont/Ballymena. > > . +unknown > > ..... 2 John Surgenor - 12 May 1887, Ballyclose/Ballymena > > ....... +Isabella (Belle) Spence after 1887 Kells/Ballymena > > ........... 3 George Surgenor 1834 - 2 Feb 1864, Ballyclose > > ............. +Margaret (Peggy) McIlwraith/McIlwrath/McElrath 15 Sep > 1829 - > > 5 Feb 1897, Cullybackey > > ................. 4 William Surgenor 29 Apr 1862, Ballyclose > > ................. 4 James Surgenor 25 Mar 1860, Ballyclose > > ....................+ Sarah Craig McFall/McFaul 25 May 1858, Craigs Co. > > Antrim > > .......... 3 James Surgenor, Antrim Town > > ........... 3 Sarah Surgenor > > ............. +James Johnston > > ........... 3 Ann Surgenor 1836, probably Ballymena > > ............. +Will Taylor > > ................. 4 Samual Taylor a.k.a. Surgenor 2 Jun 1869 > > ................. 4 Mathew Taylor > > .......... 3 William Surgenor 15 Sep 1843, Ballymena > > ........... 3 Thomas Hugh Surgenor 20 Oct 1846, probably Ballymena > > ..... 2 James Surgenor Ballymoney/Portglenone and Australia > > > > > > > > ==== SURGENER Mailing List ==== > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > To unsubscribe, send the message "unsubscribe" without the quotes to: > > [email protected] > > > > ============================== > > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > > > > ==== SURGENER Mailing List ==== > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > To unsubscribe, send the message "unsubscribe" without the quotes to: > [email protected] > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > > ==== SURGENER Mailing List ==== > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > To unsubscribe, send the message "unsubscribe" without the quotes to: > [email protected] > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 >

Hi Berny, What information do you have on your James that came to Australia, although most of the direct family that l am searching went to Canada, there must have been cousins, nephews and nieces left in the Ballymena area, there are a few SURGEONERS over here in Aust, being the descendants of Ballymena people. Regards Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Goodheart, Berny" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 7:55 PM Subject: [SURGENER-L] Surgenor: Balymena, Antrim > > Hi there, > I have seen a lot of action recently on this list so I thought I would > repost my details just in case it rings any bells with anyone. > Surgenor is my paternal grandmother's lineage. My Surgenors came from > Balymena, Antrim, NI. > > 1 George?? Surgenor, Brocklamont/Ballymena. > . +unknown > ..... 2 John Surgenor - 12 May 1887, Ballyclose/Ballymena > ....... +Isabella (Belle) Spence after 1887 Kells/Ballymena > ........... 3 George Surgenor 1834 - 2 Feb 1864, Ballyclose > ............. +Margaret (Peggy) McIlwraith/McIlwrath/McElrath 15 Sep 1829 - > 5 Feb 1897, Cullybackey > ................. 4 William Surgenor 29 Apr 1862, Ballyclose > ................. 4 James Surgenor 25 Mar 1860, Ballyclose > ....................+ Sarah Craig McFall/McFaul 25 May 1858, Craigs Co. > Antrim > .......... 3 James Surgenor, Antrim Town > ........... 3 Sarah Surgenor > ............. +James Johnston > ........... 3 Ann Surgenor 1836, probably Ballymena > ............. +Will Taylor > ................. 4 Samual Taylor a.k.a. Surgenor 2 Jun 1869 > ................. 4 Mathew Taylor > .......... 3 William Surgenor 15 Sep 1843, Ballymena > ........... 3 Thomas Hugh Surgenor 20 Oct 1846, probably Ballymena > ..... 2 James Surgenor Ballymoney/Portglenone and Australia > > > > ==== SURGENER Mailing List ==== > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > To unsubscribe, send the message "unsubscribe" without the quotes to: > [email protected] > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >

I have just rang the council, yes Kirkinriola cemetery does still exist and I have been given the location, which I was unaware of before. It's not my main area of research but I will pencil it in for a walk the next time I have time in the Ballymena area and the weather is good. Jackson > -----Original Message----- > From: Goodheart, Berny [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 09 April 2001 14:28 > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [SURGENER-L] Surgenor: Balymena, Antrim > > > Will do. But maybe Jackson will know. Jackson? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sue Adamson [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 09 April 2001 14:07 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SURGENER-L] Surgenor: Balymena, Antrim > > > Berny, > Be a love and do us a favour when you visit Ballymena. Ask your cousin if > Kirkinriola cemetery still exists. That is where my SURGEONERS > are supposed > to be buried, but l cannot find where it is. It's in the area of > Ballymena, > Rathkenny and Broughshane. > Thanks > Sue > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Goodheart, Berny" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 11:03 PM > Subject: RE: [SURGENER-L] Surgenor: Balymena, Antrim > > > > Hi Sue, > > Yes I am aware of the Surgenors/Surgeoners in Australia and NZ. > > I know of one Surgenor family there that are definitely my > family but they > > are not connected to the others (at least not yet). This Surgenor family > is > > part of my direct lineage. > > I am not able to make the connection to other Surgenors in this part of > the > > world yet but I agree > > they are probably cousins as they came from Ballymena. > Especially if they > > are Presbyterians. > > The only notes I have for our James is that he went to > Australia and back > to > > Portglenone and then back to Ballymoney. I will be visiting a cousin in > > Ballymena next month and will ask her if she knows more. > > I have a bunch of questions to ask her and I hope to tie a bunch of the > > loose ends up soon. > > My cousin is very knowledgeable about our family roots. At least > everything > > she has told us so far has turned out to be factual. Watch this space. > > > > Cheers, > > Berny > > Liverpool, England > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sue Adamson [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: 09 April 2001 10:02 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [SURGENER-L] Surgenor: Balymena, Antrim > > > > > > Hi Berny, > > What information do you have on your James that came to Australia, > although > > most of the direct family that l am searching went to Canada, there must > > have been cousins, nephews and nieces left in the Ballymena area, there > are > > a few SURGEONERS over here in Aust, being the descendants of Ballymena > > people. > > Regards > > Sue > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Goodheart, Berny" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 7:55 PM > > Subject: [SURGENER-L] Surgenor: Balymena, Antrim > > > > > > > > > > Hi there, > > > I have seen a lot of action recently on this list so I > thought I would > > > repost my details just in case it rings any bells with anyone. > > > Surgenor is my paternal grandmother's lineage. My Surgenors came from > > > Balymena, Antrim, NI. > > > > > > 1 George?? Surgenor, Brocklamont/Ballymena. > > > . +unknown > > > ..... 2 John Surgenor - 12 May 1887, Ballyclose/Ballymena > > > ....... +Isabella (Belle) Spence after 1887 Kells/Ballymena > > > ........... 3 George Surgenor 1834 - 2 Feb 1864, Ballyclose > > > ............. +Margaret (Peggy) McIlwraith/McIlwrath/McElrath 15 Sep > > 1829 - > > > 5 Feb 1897, Cullybackey > > > ................. 4 William Surgenor 29 Apr 1862, Ballyclose > > > ................. 4 James Surgenor 25 Mar 1860, Ballyclose > > > ....................+ Sarah Craig McFall/McFaul 25 May 1858, > Craigs Co. > > > Antrim > > > .......... 3 James Surgenor, Antrim Town > > > ........... 3 Sarah Surgenor > > > ............. +James Johnston > > > ........... 3 Ann Surgenor 1836, probably Ballymena > > > ............. +Will Taylor > > > ................. 4 Samual Taylor a.k.a. Surgenor 2 Jun 1869 > > > ................. 4 Mathew Taylor > > > .......... 3 William Surgenor 15 Sep 1843, Ballymena > > > ........... 3 Thomas Hugh Surgenor 20 Oct 1846, probably Ballymena > > > ..... 2 James Surgenor Ballymoney/Portglenone and Australia > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SURGENER Mailing List ==== > > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > To unsubscribe, send the message "unsubscribe" without the quotes to: > > > [email protected] > > > > > > ============================== > > > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > > > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > > > > > > > > ==== SURGENER Mailing List ==== > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > To unsubscribe, send the message "unsubscribe" without the quotes to: > > [email protected] > > > > ============================== > > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > > > > > ==== SURGENER Mailing List ==== > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > To unsubscribe, send the message "unsubscribe" without the quotes to: > > [email protected] > > > > ============================== > > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > > > > > ==== SURGENER Mailing List ==== > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > To unsubscribe, send the message "unsubscribe" without the quotes to: > [email protected] > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > ==== SURGENER Mailing List ==== > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > To unsubscribe, send the message "unsubscribe" without the quotes to: > [email protected] > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >

Sue, You may find this interesting: http://www.highkirk.org.uk/history.htm You may want to email them and ask. -----Original Message----- From: Sue Adamson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 09 April 2001 14:07 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SURGENER-L] Surgenor: Balymena, Antrim Berny, Be a love and do us a favour when you visit Ballymena. Ask your cousin if Kirkinriola cemetery still exists. That is where my SURGEONERS are supposed to be buried, but l cannot find where it is. It's in the area of Ballymena, Rathkenny and Broughshane. Thanks Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Goodheart, Berny" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 11:03 PM Subject: RE: [SURGENER-L] Surgenor: Balymena, Antrim > Hi Sue, > Yes I am aware of the Surgenors/Surgeoners in Australia and NZ. > I know of one Surgenor family there that are definitely my family but they > are not connected to the others (at least not yet). This Surgenor family is > part of my direct lineage. > I am not able to make the connection to other Surgenors in this part of the > world yet but I agree > they are probably cousins as they came from Ballymena. Especially if they > are Presbyterians. > The only notes I have for our James is that he went to Australia and back to > Portglenone and then back to Ballymoney. I will be visiting a cousin in > Ballymena next month and will ask her if she knows more. > I have a bunch of questions to ask her and I hope to tie a bunch of the > loose ends up soon. > My cousin is very knowledgeable about our family roots. At least everything > she has told us so far has turned out to be factual. Watch this space. > > Cheers, > Berny > Liverpool, England > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sue Adamson [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 09 April 2001 10:02 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SURGENER-L] Surgenor: Balymena, Antrim > > > Hi Berny, > What information do you have on your James that came to Australia, although > most of the direct family that l am searching went to Canada, there must > have been cousins, nephews and nieces left in the Ballymena area, there are > a few SURGEONERS over here in Aust, being the descendants of Ballymena > people. > Regards > Sue > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Goodheart, Berny" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 7:55 PM > Subject: [SURGENER-L] Surgenor: Balymena, Antrim > > > > > > Hi there, > > I have seen a lot of action recently on this list so I thought I would > > repost my details just in case it rings any bells with anyone. > > Surgenor is my paternal grandmother's lineage. My Surgenors came from > > Balymena, Antrim, NI. > > > > 1 George?? Surgenor, Brocklamont/Ballymena. > > . +unknown > > ..... 2 John Surgenor - 12 May 1887, Ballyclose/Ballymena > > ....... +Isabella (Belle) Spence after 1887 Kells/Ballymena > > ........... 3 George Surgenor 1834 - 2 Feb 1864, Ballyclose > > ............. +Margaret (Peggy) McIlwraith/McIlwrath/McElrath 15 Sep > 1829 - > > 5 Feb 1897, Cullybackey > > ................. 4 William Surgenor 29 Apr 1862, Ballyclose > > ................. 4 James Surgenor 25 Mar 1860, Ballyclose > > ....................+ Sarah Craig McFall/McFaul 25 May 1858, Craigs Co. > > Antrim > > .......... 3 James Surgenor, Antrim Town > > ........... 3 Sarah Surgenor > > ............. +James Johnston > > ........... 3 Ann Surgenor 1836, probably Ballymena > > ............. +Will Taylor > > ................. 4 Samual Taylor a.k.a. Surgenor 2 Jun 1869 > > ................. 4 Mathew Taylor > > .......... 3 William Surgenor 15 Sep 1843, Ballymena > > ........... 3 Thomas Hugh Surgenor 20 Oct 1846, probably Ballymena > > ..... 2 James Surgenor Ballymoney/Portglenone and Australia > > > > > > > > ==== SURGENER Mailing List ==== > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > To unsubscribe, send the message "unsubscribe" without the quotes to: > > [email protected] > > > > ============================== > > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > > > > ==== SURGENER Mailing List ==== > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > To unsubscribe, send the message "unsubscribe" without the quotes to: > [email protected] > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > > ==== SURGENER Mailing List ==== > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > To unsubscribe, send the message "unsubscribe" without the quotes to: > [email protected] > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > ==== SURGENER Mailing List ==== +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ To unsubscribe, send the message "unsubscribe" without the quotes to: [email protected] ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Sue, Incidentally, our John Surgenor and Isabella Spence were married at 1st Presbyterian, Parish Of Kirkinriola 1830. Cheers, Berny -----Original Message----- From: Sue Adamson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 09 April 2001 14:07 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SURGENER-L] Surgenor: Balymena, Antrim Berny, Be a love and do us a favour when you visit Ballymena. Ask your cousin if Kirkinriola cemetery still exists. That is where my SURGEONERS are supposed to be buried, but l cannot find where it is. It's in the area of Ballymena, Rathkenny and Broughshane. Thanks Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Goodheart, Berny" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 11:03 PM Subject: RE: [SURGENER-L] Surgenor: Balymena, Antrim > Hi Sue, > Yes I am aware of the Surgenors/Surgeoners in Australia and NZ. > I know of one Surgenor family there that are definitely my family but they > are not connected to the others (at least not yet). This Surgenor family is > part of my direct lineage. > I am not able to make the connection to other Surgenors in this part of the > world yet but I agree > they are probably cousins as they came from Ballymena. Especially if they > are Presbyterians. > The only notes I have for our James is that he went to Australia and back to > Portglenone and then back to Ballymoney. I will be visiting a cousin in > Ballymena next month and will ask her if she knows more. > I have a bunch of questions to ask her and I hope to tie a bunch of the > loose ends up soon. > My cousin is very knowledgeable about our family roots. At least everything > she has told us so far has turned out to be factual. Watch this space. > > Cheers, > Berny > Liverpool, England > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sue Adamson [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 09 April 2001 10:02 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SURGENER-L] Surgenor: Balymena, Antrim > > > Hi Berny, > What information do you have on your James that came to Australia, although > most of the direct family that l am searching went to Canada, there must > have been cousins, nephews and nieces left in the Ballymena area, there are > a few SURGEONERS over here in Aust, being the descendants of Ballymena > people. > Regards > Sue > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Goodheart, Berny" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 7:55 PM > Subject: [SURGENER-L] Surgenor: Balymena, Antrim > > > > > > Hi there, > > I have seen a lot of action recently on this list so I thought I would > > repost my details just in case it rings any bells with anyone. > > Surgenor is my paternal grandmother's lineage. My Surgenors came from > > Balymena, Antrim, NI. > > > > 1 George?? Surgenor, Brocklamont/Ballymena. > > . +unknown > > ..... 2 John Surgenor - 12 May 1887, Ballyclose/Ballymena > > ....... +Isabella (Belle) Spence after 1887 Kells/Ballymena > > ........... 3 George Surgenor 1834 - 2 Feb 1864, Ballyclose > > ............. +Margaret (Peggy) McIlwraith/McIlwrath/McElrath 15 Sep > 1829 - > > 5 Feb 1897, Cullybackey > > ................. 4 William Surgenor 29 Apr 1862, Ballyclose > > ................. 4 James Surgenor 25 Mar 1860, Ballyclose > > ....................+ Sarah Craig McFall/McFaul 25 May 1858, Craigs Co. > > Antrim > > .......... 3 James Surgenor, Antrim Town > > ........... 3 Sarah Surgenor > > ............. +James Johnston > > ........... 3 Ann Surgenor 1836, probably Ballymena > > ............. +Will Taylor > > ................. 4 Samual Taylor a.k.a. Surgenor 2 Jun 1869 > > ................. 4 Mathew Taylor > > .......... 3 William Surgenor 15 Sep 1843, Ballymena > > ........... 3 Thomas Hugh Surgenor 20 Oct 1846, probably Ballymena > > ..... 2 James Surgenor Ballymoney/Portglenone and Australia > > > > > > > > ==== SURGENER Mailing List ==== > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > To unsubscribe, send the message "unsubscribe" without the quotes to: > > [email protected] > > > > ============================== > > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > > > > ==== SURGENER Mailing List ==== > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > To unsubscribe, send the message "unsubscribe" without the quotes to: > [email protected] > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > > ==== SURGENER Mailing List ==== > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > To unsubscribe, send the message "unsubscribe" without the quotes to: > [email protected] > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > ==== SURGENER Mailing List ==== +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ To unsubscribe, send the message "unsubscribe" without the quotes to: [email protected] ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Will do. But maybe Jackson will know. Jackson? -----Original Message----- From: Sue Adamson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 09 April 2001 14:07 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SURGENER-L] Surgenor: Balymena, Antrim Berny, Be a love and do us a favour when you visit Ballymena. Ask your cousin if Kirkinriola cemetery still exists. That is where my SURGEONERS are supposed to be buried, but l cannot find where it is. It's in the area of Ballymena, Rathkenny and Broughshane. Thanks Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Goodheart, Berny" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 11:03 PM Subject: RE: [SURGENER-L] Surgenor: Balymena, Antrim > Hi Sue, > Yes I am aware of the Surgenors/Surgeoners in Australia and NZ. > I know of one Surgenor family there that are definitely my family but they > are not connected to the others (at least not yet). This Surgenor family is > part of my direct lineage. > I am not able to make the connection to other Surgenors in this part of the > world yet but I agree > they are probably cousins as they came from Ballymena. Especially if they > are Presbyterians. > The only notes I have for our James is that he went to Australia and back to > Portglenone and then back to Ballymoney. I will be visiting a cousin in > Ballymena next month and will ask her if she knows more. > I have a bunch of questions to ask her and I hope to tie a bunch of the > loose ends up soon. > My cousin is very knowledgeable about our family roots. At least everything > she has told us so far has turned out to be factual. Watch this space. > > Cheers, > Berny > Liverpool, England > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sue Adamson [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 09 April 2001 10:02 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SURGENER-L] Surgenor: Balymena, Antrim > > > Hi Berny, > What information do you have on your James that came to Australia, although > most of the direct family that l am searching went to Canada, there must > have been cousins, nephews and nieces left in the Ballymena area, there are > a few SURGEONERS over here in Aust, being the descendants of Ballymena > people. > Regards > Sue > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Goodheart, Berny" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 7:55 PM > Subject: [SURGENER-L] Surgenor: Balymena, Antrim > > > > > > Hi there, > > I have seen a lot of action recently on this list so I thought I would > > repost my details just in case it rings any bells with anyone. > > Surgenor is my paternal grandmother's lineage. My Surgenors came from > > Balymena, Antrim, NI. > > > > 1 George?? Surgenor, Brocklamont/Ballymena. > > . +unknown > > ..... 2 John Surgenor - 12 May 1887, Ballyclose/Ballymena > > ....... +Isabella (Belle) Spence after 1887 Kells/Ballymena > > ........... 3 George Surgenor 1834 - 2 Feb 1864, Ballyclose > > ............. +Margaret (Peggy) McIlwraith/McIlwrath/McElrath 15 Sep > 1829 - > > 5 Feb 1897, Cullybackey > > ................. 4 William Surgenor 29 Apr 1862, Ballyclose > > ................. 4 James Surgenor 25 Mar 1860, Ballyclose > > ....................+ Sarah Craig McFall/McFaul 25 May 1858, Craigs Co. > > Antrim > > .......... 3 James Surgenor, Antrim Town > > ........... 3 Sarah Surgenor > > ............. +James Johnston > > ........... 3 Ann Surgenor 1836, probably Ballymena > > ............. +Will Taylor > > ................. 4 Samual Taylor a.k.a. Surgenor 2 Jun 1869 > > ................. 4 Mathew Taylor > > .......... 3 William Surgenor 15 Sep 1843, Ballymena > > ........... 3 Thomas Hugh Surgenor 20 Oct 1846, probably Ballymena > > ..... 2 James Surgenor Ballymoney/Portglenone and Australia > > > > > > > > ==== SURGENER Mailing List ==== > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > To unsubscribe, send the message "unsubscribe" without the quotes to: > > [email protected] > > > > ============================== > > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > > > > ==== SURGENER Mailing List ==== > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > To unsubscribe, send the message "unsubscribe" without the quotes to: > [email protected] > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > > ==== SURGENER Mailing List ==== > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > To unsubscribe, send the message "unsubscribe" without the quotes to: > [email protected] > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > ==== SURGENER Mailing List ==== +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ To unsubscribe, send the message "unsubscribe" without the quotes to: [email protected] ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Hi Sue, Yes I am aware of the Surgenors/Surgeoners in Australia and NZ. I know of one Surgenor family there that are definitely my family but they are not connected to the others (at least not yet). This Surgenor family is part of my direct lineage. I am not able to make the connection to other Surgenors in this part of the world yet but I agree they are probably cousins as they came from Ballymena. Especially if they are Presbyterians. The only notes I have for our James is that he went to Australia and back to Portglenone and then back to Ballymoney. I will be visiting a cousin in Ballymena next month and will ask her if she knows more. I have a bunch of questions to ask her and I hope to tie a bunch of the loose ends up soon. My cousin is very knowledgeable about our family roots. At least everything she has told us so far has turned out to be factual. Watch this space. Cheers, Berny Liverpool, England -----Original Message----- From: Sue Adamson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 09 April 2001 10:02 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SURGENER-L] Surgenor: Balymena, Antrim Hi Berny, What information do you have on your James that came to Australia, although most of the direct family that l am searching went to Canada, there must have been cousins, nephews and nieces left in the Ballymena area, there are a few SURGEONERS over here in Aust, being the descendants of Ballymena people. Regards Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Goodheart, Berny" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 7:55 PM Subject: [SURGENER-L] Surgenor: Balymena, Antrim > > Hi there, > I have seen a lot of action recently on this list so I thought I would > repost my details just in case it rings any bells with anyone. > Surgenor is my paternal grandmother's lineage. My Surgenors came from > Balymena, Antrim, NI. > > 1 George?? Surgenor, Brocklamont/Ballymena. > . +unknown > ..... 2 John Surgenor - 12 May 1887, Ballyclose/Ballymena > ....... +Isabella (Belle) Spence after 1887 Kells/Ballymena > ........... 3 George Surgenor 1834 - 2 Feb 1864, Ballyclose > ............. +Margaret (Peggy) McIlwraith/McIlwrath/McElrath 15 Sep 1829 - > 5 Feb 1897, Cullybackey > ................. 4 William Surgenor 29 Apr 1862, Ballyclose > ................. 4 James Surgenor 25 Mar 1860, Ballyclose > ....................+ Sarah Craig McFall/McFaul 25 May 1858, Craigs Co. > Antrim > .......... 3 James Surgenor, Antrim Town > ........... 3 Sarah Surgenor > ............. +James Johnston > ........... 3 Ann Surgenor 1836, probably Ballymena > ............. +Will Taylor > ................. 4 Samual Taylor a.k.a. Surgenor 2 Jun 1869 > ................. 4 Mathew Taylor > .......... 3 William Surgenor 15 Sep 1843, Ballymena > ........... 3 Thomas Hugh Surgenor 20 Oct 1846, probably Ballymena > ..... 2 James Surgenor Ballymoney/Portglenone and Australia > > > > ==== SURGENER Mailing List ==== > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > To unsubscribe, send the message "unsubscribe" without the quotes to: > [email protected] > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > ==== SURGENER Mailing List ==== +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ To unsubscribe, send the message "unsubscribe" without the quotes to: [email protected] ============================== Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!

Sorry. I see no connection between your Surgeoners and mine in Ayrshire, Scotland. Claude

Sorry, none appear on my line.

In a message dated 4/6/01 7:48:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << I'm trying to connect my SURGENER ancestors to a family tree. My great-grandmother was Mariah Surgener, daughter of Stephen Surgener and Mary Livesay Surgener. I believe she was born in the vicinity of Blackwater, Virginia in the late 1850's. Do any of these names appear on your family line. Any help you can give would be appreciated. >> I can't help you. I have only done Surgeoner research in Ayrshire, Scotland.

Kathryn, Sorry there was a typo in my last: Main SURGENER webpage index is: http://home.rmci.net/adamewa/index.htm I dotted when I should have slashed. Ruby