I have added a bit of info from "Goodspeed's Mississippi" on the Sojourner name at: http://home.rmci.net/adamewa/indexaft.htm Ruby

This list has been awfully quiet. We've only had 2-3 subscribers post their direct lines or info about who they're looking for and we can't help if we don't know what you want. You all have to have SOMETHING to get to where you are on your Surgeners! Come on, people - start typing!!! Ruby

Well, that was great. Lonnie's suggestion was as good as Christmas but he is Lonnie Chrisman!!! Sorry, Lonnie. R ___________________________________________________ Thanks to Lonnie Chrismas, the Social Security Death Index is now readable!!! http://home.rmci.net/adamewa/ssindex.htm Ruby ==== SURGENER Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe: send a message to [email protected]; do NOT put anything in the subject line; in the message part, simply type UNSUBSCRIBE, and send it on its way. Questions, comments - contact Ruby at: [email protected]

Thanks to Lonnie Chrismas, the Social Security Death Index is now readable!!! http://home.rmci.net/adamewa/ssindex.htm Ruby

I have put the Social Security Death Index up - view it at: http://home.rmci.net/adamewa/ssindex.htm It is really ugly and I might not leave it there. I have tried everything I can think of, including viewing imbedded codes, but cannot find the reason for some of the lines indenting! I even tried programming the webpage differently. But short of typing table/cell data for every line, I'm blank. Any brilliant people out there with a good idea??? Ruby

Here is an update on Family TreeMaker Software if any of you use it. Also, welcome aboard new mail list member Tracey Surginer!! Ruby _______________________________________ > >>Copyright (C) 1998 by Richard W. Eastman and Ancestry, Inc. All >>rights reserved. > >>- Broderbund Sold >> >>On Monday of this past week, a press release by two companies >>announced a friendly takeover of Broderbund Software, producer of >>the most popular genealogy program in the world: Family Tree >>Maker. The Learning Company of Cambridge, Massachusetts plans to >>purchase Broderbund of Novato, California for approximately $420 >>million in stock. >> >>Both companies are educational and entertainment computer software >>makers. Broderbund produces many programs in addition to their >>popular Family Tree Maker series, including Carmen Sandiego, >>Arthur, KidPix and The Print Shop. While The Learning Company has >>not previously had a genealogy product, they do have a number of >>other programs that will fit in nicely with the Broderbund >>products. These programs include ReaderRabbit, BodyWorks, >>MegaMunchers, Cyber Patrol, KeyCAD Deluxe, Labels Unlimited, Score >>Builder for the SAT/ACT, Home Medical Advisor and a number of >>products for learning foreign languages. >> >>The deal is expected to be accounted for as a pooling-of- >>interests. Both companies' boards of directors have approved the >>transaction and intend to recommend it to their respective >>shareholders. The two companies said in a joint statement that >>they expect the merger to be completed before the end of >>September. >> >>"Broderbund's well-known, award-winning brands, are an excellent >>addition to the Learning Company portfolio," said Kevin O'Leary, >>president of The Learning Company. "In addition, the combined >>business will have access to a database of over 20 million >>registered end-users who have purchased one of our products and >>desire to hear about more offerings, which will allow us to build >>our presence in the on-line and Internet channel," he added. >> >>Let's see.... Family Tree Maker was created by a company called >>Banner Blue. That company later acquired Automated Archives, the >>first producer of genealogy CD-ROM disks. Banner Blue was later >>acquired by Broderbund. Then Broderbund also acquired Parsons >>Technology, producers of the competitive Family Origins genealogy >>program. Now Broderbund has been acquired by the Learning Company. >>I need a genealogy program just to keep track of this lineage! >> >>So what does this new acquisition mean to genealogists and >>especially to those who use Family Tree Maker? My guess is that >>there will be very little impact. The Learning Company did not >>have a genealogy program in their catalog, so the addition of the >>very popular Family Tree Maker will be a winner for them. Like >>Broderbund, The Learning Company has been very effective at >>marketing products. The Learning Company will probably continue to >>promote Family Tree Maker in much the same manner that Broderbund >>has. I expect it will be "business as usual" for the Broderbund >>employees. >> >>The one item that I cannot guess at is the future of Family >>Origins. This excellent genealogy program has always been a >>popular product for Parsons Technology. Broderbund purchased >>Parsons and then continued to sell Family Origins, even though it >>is a direct competitor to Family Tree Maker. Now the new owners >>will be looking at the two competing products with a fresh >>outlook. I hope they continue to sell and support Family Origins. > > > > >

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Surgener researchers: Except for Billie Groening, I have not received anything to put on the webpages. You must have something: marriages, death notices, censuses, wills and/or estate records, deeds, etc., that you've collected in your research. It might just be the thing to helps somebody else. I've shared everything I have; we need others to share, too, if we're ever going to hope to put the Surgeners together back to the first John. Ruby

New items have been posted to the SURGENER webpage thanks to subscriber Billie Groening. Look for the red "new" sign at: http://home.rmci.net/adamewa/chrono_1.htm and http://home.rmci.net/adamewa/chrono_2.htm VERY interesting! Thanks, Billie! Ruby

Hi Ruby Congrats on the Webpage!! Slowly going through your postings of the SURGENER name Variants I have a few questions: 1. Have any of the names shown up on any Ships Lists to America 2. Which modern day town is The Isle of Wright County located in. 3. Was the area mostly settled by English !! 4. What does your Family Lore say re where they came from Regards Darryl Pearce Burleigh Falls Ontario CANADA email [email protected] Rooting for WORBY/WARBY NFK/SFK PEACE DBY/NTS/WRY STONER WRY RUFFELL NFK/SFK BYWATER WRY SURGENOR NI TURTON ALB.CANADA

Good morning! I finally finished writing my Surgener Research Sources web pages and got them uploaded last night. Please take a look at: http://home.rmci.net/adamewa/ All the links seemed to be working this morning; if you find a problem, please let me know. If you find spelling boo-boos or anything else, also let me know. I would appreciate your general comments and suggestions. I also hope all the Surgener Mail List subscribers will contribute to the pages. I will acknowledge you as the submitter unless you tell me you do NOT want your name and/or email attached. Please send info "ready to go" so I can cut/paste. If you have a Surgener-related web page that you would like a link to, send it to me and we'll exchange links. Hope all this stuff will be helpful and not just a waste of time. BTW, if new subscribers haven't yet posted their direct Surgener lines to the mail list, we'd like to see them! If you would like other members to repost, tell us and we'll be glad to do that. Have a good day!! I am meeting my son to see the opening of the "X-FILES" movie at noon. Ruby

Hawkins Co., TN, Marriages Vol. 2, 1789-1865 by Prentiss Price: Surgener, Manson M. to Maria Fields 16 Nov 1861 (Marvel Derrick, Security) Surgener, Manson M. to Phebe Palmer 10 May 1861 (McDanne Taylor, Sec.) Surgener, Patience to Richard Smith 23 Jan 1845 Surginer, Olly to John Still 21 Jun 1853 Surgoine, Harriet N. to Milburn Bowman 24 Aug 1844 Surjoiner, Jacob to Elizabeth Beesett 19 Aug 18939 (Geo. W. Vaughan, Sec.) Ruby

> > > ...thought you might enjoy this.! > > > Two men were walking home after a party and decided to take a > shortcut through the cemetery just for laughs. Right in the > middle of the cemetery they were startled by a tap-tap-tapping > noise coming from the misty shadows. Trembling with fear, they > found an old man with a hammer and chisel, chipping away at one > of the headstones. > > "Holy cow, Mister," one of them said after catching his breath, > "You scared us half to death -- we thought you were a ghost! > What are you doing working here so late at night?" > > "Those fools!" the old man grumbled. "They misspelled my SURGENOR name!" > > > Regards > > Darryl Pearce > > Burleigh Falls > Ontario CANADA > > email [email protected] > > Rooting for WORBY/WARBY NFK/SFK > PEACE DBY/NTS/WRY > STONER WRY > RUFFELL NFK/SFK > BYWATER WRY > SURGENOR NI > TURTON ALB.CANADA

Good morning! I hope you'll forgive this "forward" - its not a Surgener post - but is so "right on" I thought you might enjoy it as much as I did! Ruby _________________________ > >Hi friends! > > No new url to contribute here........but I noticed some "discussion" >occurring on our list.....so I thought I'd lighten-your-day a bit and >share this "Discussion Group" post for all to enjoy! > >Much love and many smiles, > > Beth* .....San Diego, California..... *;) > > > >The following is from the "Just 4 Laughs humor list": > > >Discussion group subscribers... > >Q: How many internet mail list discussion group subscribers does it take >to change a light bulb? > >A: 1,331: > >1 to change the light bulb and to post to the mail list that the light >bulb has been changed > >14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the >light bulb could have been >changed differently. > >7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs. > >27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light >bulbs. > >53 to flame the spell checkers > >156 to write to the list administrator complaining about the light bulb >discussion and its >inappropriateness to this mail list. > >41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames. > >109 to post that this list is not about light bulbs and to please take >this email exchange to alt.lite.bulb > >203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar, alt.spelling and >alt.punctuation about changing light >bulbs be stopped. > >111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we are all use light >bulbs and therefore the posts >**are** relevant to this mail list. > >306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to >buy the best light bulbs, >what brand of light bulbs work best for this technique, and what brands >are faulty. > >27 to post URLs where one can see examples of different light bulbs > >14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and to post corrected >URLs. > >3 to post about links they found from the URLs that are relevant to this >list which makes light bulbs >relevant to this list. > >33 to concatenate all posts to date, then quote them including all >headers and footers, and then add >"Me Too." > >12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing because they cannot >handle the light bulb >controversey. > >19 to quote the "Me Too's" to say, "Me Three." > >4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ. > >1 to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup. > >47 to say this is just what alt.physic.cold_fusion was meant for, leave >it here. > >143 votes for alt.lite.bulb. > > >==== NEW-GEN-URL Mailing List ==== >List owner is Nadine and can be reached at > [email protected] >contact me if you have any probelms with the list. > > > >

Hi All These are SURGENOR's located in the World Family Tree CD-Rom's Regards Darryl Pearce Name Est.Date Location Archive Type Surgenor, Abijah b1890-1899 Unknown World Family Tree Surgenor, Abijah 1937-1995 United States Social Security Surgenor, Abraham b1800-1899 Unknown World Family Tree Surgenor, Alexander 1937-1995 United States Social Security Surgenor, Angeline Private Private World Family Tree Surgenor, Argeline Private Private World Family Tree Surgenor, Beryl 1937-1995 United States Social Security Surgenor, David 1937-1995 United States Social Security Surgenor, David Charles Private Private World Family Tree Surgenor, Donald 1937-1995 United States Social Security Surgenor, Douglas McRiver Private Private World Family Tree Surgenor, Emaline Kathleen Private Private World Family Tree Surgenor, Ester 1937-1995 United States Social Security Surgenor, Farlie 1937-1995 United States Social Security Surgenor, George 1937-1995 United States Social Security Surgenor, Gertrude 1937-1995 United States Social Security Surgenor, Hazel 1937-1995 United States Social Security Surgenor, Henry 1937-1995 United States Social Security Surgenor, Hugh 1937-1995 United States Social Security Surgenor, Ida Grace b1850-1949 Unknown World Family Tree Surgenor, Ida Grace Private Private World Family Tree Surgenor, Isabelle 1937-1995 United States Social Security Surgenor, Jack Private Private World Family Tree Surgenor, Jacob b1700-1799 Unknown World Family Tree Surgenor, Jacob 1860 VA Census CD 318 Surgenor, James 1820 NC Census CD 314 Surgenor, James 1830 NC Census CD 315 Surgenor, James 1937-1995 United States Social Security Surgenor, Janet 1937-1995 United States Social Security Surgenor, Jeanette 1937-1995 United States Social Security Surgenor, Joe 1937-1995 United States Social Security Surgenor, John 1820 NC Census CD 314 Surgenor, John 1870 NC Census CD 319 Surgenor, John 1870 NC or SC Census CD 289 Surgenor, John 1937-1995 United States Social Security Surgenor, John, Jr. 1830 NC Census CD 315 Surgenor, John, Jr. 1937-1995 United States Social Security Surgenor, John, Sr. 1830 NC Census CD 315 Surgenor, John Duncan Private Private World Family Tree Surgenor, Joseph 1937-1995 United States Social Security Surgenor, Leah Emma Private Private World Family Tree Surgenor, Lori Ann Private Private World Family Tree Surgenor, Madeline Lee Private Private World Family Tree Surgenor, Margaret 1937-1995 United States Social Security Surgenor, Margaret Private Private World Family Tree Surgenor, Mary 1500-1990 Worldwide Pedigree CD 15 Surgenor, Mary 1937-1995 United States Social Security Surgenor, Milum 1937-1995 United States Social Security Surgenor, Nancy 1624-1915 MD,NC,VA Marriage CD 4 Surgenor, Nancy 1728-1850 KY,NC,TN,VA,WV Marriage CD 229 Surgenor, Nicholas 1830 AR Census CD 315 Surgenor, Patience 1728-1850 KY,NC,TN,VA,WV Marriage CD 229 Surgenor, Patricia Private Private World Family Tree Surgenor, Paul 1937-1995 United States Social Security Surgenor, Richard 1830 AR Census CD 315 Surgenor, Robert 1600s-1900s Canada Genealogy Index CD 118 Surgenor, Robert 1937-1995 United States Social Security Surgenor, Robin Lee Private Private World Family Tree Surgenor, Ronald Private Private World Family Tree Surgenor, Samuel 1937-1995 United States Social Security Surgenor, Sandra Jacquelin Private Private World Family Tree Surgenor, Stephen Richmond b1860-1869 VA World Family Tree Surgenor, Timothy Raymond Private Private World Family Tree Surgenor, William 1600s-1900s Canada Genealogy Index CD 118 Surgenor, William 1820 NC Census CD 314 Surgenor, William 1830 NC Census CD 315 Surgenor, William 1880 OH Census CD 20 Surgenor, William 1937-1995 United States Social Security Surgenor, Zora 1937-1995 United States Social Security Surgenr, Elizabeth 1789-1850 OH Marriage CD 400

Thanks to Darryl for taking the time to list the WFT Surgeners for us. A note of caution, which you all know: Since these are all submissions, they are subject to the many errors of humans; however WFT data is often worse than the IGI which hardly seemed possible until you see some of it. Perhaps its because of the new "information era" and people new to the web who don't really do gen. research but know Uncle Joe's stories about the family. Whatever. Just remember to always PROVE each step for yourself before gathering anything in as gospel. A few other lists right now are going through a Broderbund-hate faze. Apparently they've been sending "spiders" or "robots" out to gather info from family webpages in addition to submissions and even personal info on living people has been showing up - the stuff that is supposed to be kept private on their files. I haven't sent anything to them and have only looked at their files a couple times. All I know is from what I've been sent, what others have told me and now what's coming across the lists but thought it was worth a mention. Ruby

How big is this list anyway? My quick intro: I'm Lonnie Chrisman, sr software engineer in San Jose, CA, BSEE from US Berkeley, Ph.D. in computer science & artificial intelligence from Carnegie Mellon Univ in Pittsburgh. Grew up since about age 6 in Silicon Valley. Have three daughters, Brianna 4.5yrs, Whitney 3yrs and Ashley 11 days. Done genealogy research pretty seriously for 8 or 9 years. My 5th great grandparents were Joseph and Mary Cox, same ancestors shared by Randy Moss. As Randy mentions, some claim that Mary, the wife of Joseph, may have been a Surgener. This claim is also the basis for my interest in this group. The claim that she is a Surgener has propagated fairly widely and if often repeated. My first interest is just in uncovering the origin of the conjecture that she might have been a Surgener. Although I've encountered this claim several times, I have yet to encounter any person or any written source who can identify why the Surgener conjecture was ever proposed in the first place. The fact that it has been widely propagated does not make it any more credible. Did somebody at one time encounter some antique document somewhere that suggested a connection between the Surginer family and Joseph Cox's wife? If so, let's start by figuring out what that document was. I would consider this a major find. This may be optimistic. My bet is that at some point, some researcher noted that Joseph and Mary Cox lived near William Surginer (perhaps in NC), the noted that they both moved to nearby locations elsewhere (parhaps in Kentucky) at approximately the same time. Seeing this, they may have suggested to a fellow researcher that perhaps Mary is somehow connected to the Surginers. That researcher repeated this once to some family member, that so-and-so thinks Mary could possibly have been a Surginer, and the cat was out of the bag. From there the conjecture is repeated over and over, but the origin of the conjecture does not follow it. I've seen exactly this scenario happen a couple times already on other lines being researched. If this is the nature of the claim, that is okay as long as we can identify its origin and attach the correct degree of credibility to it. For me, this first step of learning why the Surginer conjecture was originally proposed will be a major milestone on this particular line of research. Anyway, I lay this out as a starting point to just help us focus our efforts. We know there is also a competing conjecture .. that she was a Pope, perhaps a daughter of Pilgrim Pope. Ruby was able to outline for me the origin of that theory, and in fact was able to go a step further and give me a list of facts (documents, etc) that were highly relevant towards that theory (the documents provide substantial evidence that the Pope conjecture is probably not true). For me, that was a fantastic advance and has got my attention focused on this branch of my ancestry and being one that is ripe for a breakthrough. I'm excited to see the same happen with the Surginer conjecture (ie, the same understanding reached as to the origin of the conjecture). Thanks, Lonnie Chrisman [email protected]

BTW, I copied this info out of EVERTON'S GENEALOGICAL HELPER, Jan-Feb 1987 issue (and wrote to the submitter but never received a reply): Andrew PARKS m. 1809 Grayson Co., VA, to Susanna ?? Parks children: Pilgrim Isaac Washington Jackson Andrew Aimy White Keziah West Elizabeth SURGENER Sarah Jones Mary Anderson Looks like a possibility the names came from a will? I queried the Parks mail list (wondering if Susanna might have been a Pope, Surgener, Sykes, etc., considering their first born son's name). I received a piece of database with the info that Susanna was possibly a COX. The database also had Elizabeth's married name as Surgeon which could be a possible error during input by someone not familiar with the Surgener name. Do you Cox descendants have any idea about Susanna and/or Elizabeth Parks Surgener? Ruby

Welcome Lonnie, So far, the list only numbers 5 as far as I can tell: three working in the US and two working in Ireland. Below is my original post to this list for those who are new. I could see the logical mind at work in your presentation. I, too, would like to know where the name Surginer came from as one idea for Mary's maiden name. Recently I was told that Mary's name was in a history in Bartholomew Co., IN, saying she was the daughter of Elijah Pope (son of Pilgrim, I assume). That cannot be since Elijah was born in 1763 and Mary 1771-74 (by different accounts). Another account was that one of the Coxes referred to Mignon Boaz (one of Elijah Pope's sons-in-law) as a "cousin-in-law." If Mary were a Surginer then Boaz could also be a "cousin-in-law" although by marriage in either event. I have not seen a copy of the history from Bart. Co. and wonder if it is an old one and who submitted it (which can usually be told by who is the central character of the bio) or if it is a newer history in which a descendant provided the submission. Elijah Pope's account book names his children and their birth dates; it does not list a daughter named Mary at all. He does mention the Surginer name three times in the book: Olive Surginer died July 21, 1814 (possibly his daughte Olive since nothing more has been found); he made a payment to John Surginner (no date); and an entry that was written over something faded plus something else crossed out which made this entry difficult to make out: Jacob Surginner sot? of to the March 8, 1779 (makes no sense but just couldn't tell what it was). There was a William, Jacob and Abraham Surgener in Grayson Co., VA, at the same time although William of the Grayson Co. censuses was too young to be the William Surgener in the records with the Popes. Coxes mentioned in Elijah Pope's account book were:Joseph, Samuel, Steven and Soloman if that's any help. ---------- copy ---------- My line begins with: OLIVE SURGENER b. 1742-45 NC m. 26 Jan 1762 Edgecombe Co., NC d. May 1820 Crawford Co., IN PILGRIM POPE b. ca 1740's NC d. May 1790 probably VA (part that became Grayson Co.) ---------- Olive was a daughter of (proved in father's will): ROBERT SURGENER b. m. possibly by 1728 although first mention of Catherine is 1744. d. 1778 Edgecombe Co., NC CATHERINE ?? b. d. aft 1778 Children (order not known): 1. John Surgener m1. Mary POPE; m2. Elizabeth ?? (Rev. War veteran; he went to South Carolina) 2. William Surgener (probably the William who followed sister Olive to Rowan and Ashe Counties, NC, and Grayson Co., VA) 3. Benjamin Surgener 4. Olive Surgener m. Pilgrim Pope 5. Hannah Surgener m. ?? Sykes/Sikes (possibly Sampson Sykes?) 6. Sarah Surgener --------- Robert Surgener was a son of (proved in father's will): JOHN SURGENER/SURGINER/SOJOURNER d. Mar 1728 Isle of Wight Co., VA * This is the black hole. No mention was made of his wife, or her name, in the will which causes the problem - and John Surgener who d.1728 had TWO sons named John. At first it would appear he was the John Surginer who had a marriage contract in 1673 Isle of Wight Co., VA, to marry Alice Harris, widow of Thomas Harris. Perhaps his second marriage and he had a son named John by his first wife. However, Alice already had five children. Since Robert Surgener lived until 1778, I just cannot stretch Alice's birthing years far enough for her to have given birth to Robert and then Robert living until 1778. Either this John married again AFTER Alice OR the 1728 will and the father of Robert is actually John, the SON of John who married Alice West in 1673. There is a John Sojourner/Sojernor with wife Mary in Isle of Wight Co., VA, as early as 1689. Children named in John Surginer's 1728 will: John the elder Robert (executor) John the younger Benjamin Mary Ann ----- Ruby ---------- copy ----------

I am looking for the parents of Mary, wife of Joseph Cox. Some believe her maiden name was Surginer, while others think it was Pope. No one that I have contacted has been able to furnish proof one way or the other. Mary was born circa 1771 in Virginia. She married Joseph Cox about 1790 in either Virginia or Ashe Co., North Carolina. She died 14 Oct. 1846 in Bartholomew Co., Indiana.