The Civil War - Confederate webpage has been updated and an addition from Melaney Moore-Dodson has been added. http://home.rmci.net/adamewa/confed.htm If anyone else had military info, Confederate or Union, they wish to add to the webpages, please send it to me via email and I will add it as soon as possible. Thank you. Ruby

Dear Sergeners (Suginors, etc.): This is my first time using your list, and I really need some help! For years, I have been trying to figure out where my ancestor and founder of Surgoinesville, TN (Hawkins County), came from. All we really know is that he went by the title Major James Surguine (we've checked every military record we can think of-- but we're not really sophisticated at this), he started purchasing land in Hawkins County about 1804, co-founded the town of Surgoinesville in 1815 -- and that's about it. Prior to that, we really don't know anything. I've looked everywhere for an earlier "Surguine" or "Surgoine" with no success and, because of the concentration of Surgener's (etc.) in that part of the country at about that time, can only guess that he simply followed the family tradition of changing the spelling to suit himself. Therefore, any offspring of your Surgeners, Surginors, etc. named "James" that suddenly disappears from your family records at about that time (late 1700s, early 1800s) would be suspect. ANY clues will be MOST appreciated! Thank you. Sincerely, -- Skip Surguine Indianapolis

As promised, I now have some dates for my information, taken from the SSDI and Ruby's Surgener page at http://home.rmci.net/adamewa/index.htm. John R. Surginer m. Mrs. Mary Ann Cantrell Hill Oct. 9, 1890, in Parker, Co., TX. Their son, my great-GF, Ernest (01/28/1892-03/1964) m. (07/01/15) Ruby Mae Ingram (01/03/1896-09/1980) Their four daughters include: Ethel Louise (06/18/16-) m. Walter Earl Hempel (one daughter) Evelyn (04/07/18-01/13/97) m. Paddy Garland (a son, a daughter); also married a Robertson and Sylvester, no children by either. Rosalyn (1920-) m. Michael Theodore Smith (a son, a daughter) Mary Nadine (192?-1977) m. ?? Burns (two daughters) Please let me know if this info is of interest to anyone. I also have a little bit more on Mary Ann's family. I was glad to get a "lead" on the Surginer name (being most likely Irish), as I had not known that before. Thanks for any help, Kim Elkins

Hi All My grandmother was a SURGEONER and my great grandmother a SURGINER taking me back to c.1854. I have collected various SURGEONER facts in Co Antrim, Ireland and my line comes from the areas of Ballyclare, Cross and Kells Co Antrim although some of the families concerned had their birthplace noted as Scotland. Jackson, Co Antrim, Ireland

Texas Death Records 1903-1940 and a couple Parker Co., TX, marriages from Billie Groening have been added to the SURGENER "after 1800" webpage: http://home.rmci.net/adamewa/indexaft.htm Ruby

My Sojourner begins with Gabriel Sojourner and his brother Readick Sojourner. My line is: Gabriel (1770), Bridges (1803), Robert Norwood (1830), and Roberta Norwood Sojourner (1858). 1. GABRIEL SOJOURNER was born Abt. 1770 in SC ?, and died Aft. 1820 in MS. He married ELIZABETH Abt. 1790. Notes for GABRIEL SOJOURNER: 1790 Census Orangeburg Dist., SC 1796 Orangeburg Dist, SC 1802-1810 in MS 1819 Franklin Co., MS 1820 Wilknson Co., MS Children of GABRIEL SOJOURNER and ELIZABETH are: i. JOHN2 SOJOURNER, b. 1 September 1791, South Carolina1; m. SALLIE. ii. MARY SOJOURNER, b. 27 March 1793. iii. WILLIAM SOJOURNER, b. 22 January 1795; d. 11 July 1823. iv. SARAH SOJOURNER, b. 1796; d. 8 May 1864. 2. v. SAMUEL SOJOURNER, b. 6 January 1801, SC; d. 26 September 1856. 3. vi. BRIDGES SOJOURNER, b. 23 January 1803, Orangeburg Co., SC ?; d. 1 August 1833, St. Mary Parish, LA. vii. NANCY SOJOURNER, b. Abt. 1804; m. DAVID THOMPSON, 8 February 1821, Wilkinson Co., MS. viii. ELIZABETH SOJOURNER, b. 24 February 1805, South Carolina; d. 6 July 18581; m. HENRY H. BELL, 9 April 1826, Wilkinson Co., MS. ix. LEVICE/LEVISA SOJOURNER, b. 20 March 1809; m. ROBERT NORWOOD, 12 October 1826, Wilkinson Co., MS. Generation No. 2 2. SAMUEL2 SOJOURNER (GABRIEL1) was born 6 January 1801 in SC3, and died 26 September 18563. He married LACY E. (SARAH) NORTON 6 November 1824 in Franklin Co., MS3. Children of SAMUEL SOJOURNER and LACY NORTON are: i. WILLIAM HENRY LEVISA3 SOJOURNER, b. 23 November 1824. ii. BRIDGES SOJOURNER, b. 15 September 1827 iii. SARAH F. SOJOURNER, b. 2 December 1830 iv. JOHN SOJOURNER, b. 18 October 1832 v. THOMAS P. SOJOURNER, b. 26 May 1834 4. vi. DOUGLAS MCGRAW SOJOURNER, b. 9 June 1836, Alabama; d. 12 July 1878, near Mansfield, LA. vii. MICAGAH D. SOJOURNER, b. 17 October 1838 3. BRIDGES SOJOURNER (GABRIEL) was born 23 January 1803 in Orangeburg Co., SC ?3, and died 1 August 1833 in St. Mary Parish, LA. He married (1) MARY BELL 12 March 1825 in Wilkinson Co., MS5, daughter of SAMUEL BELL and MARY PAGIT. Children of BRIDGES SOJOURNER and MARY BELL are: i. CHARLES BRIDGES SOJOURNER, b. Abt. 1826, MS; m. MARTHA L. CAMPBELL, Franklin, St. Mary Parish, LA. ii. CAROLINE AMANDA SOJOURNER, b. Abt. 1828; m. WILLIAM ROCHEL, JR.. 5. iii. ROBERT NORWOOD SOJOURNER, b. 1830, St. Mary Parish, LA; d. 11 August 1858, Patterson, St. Mary Parish, LA. iv. LENORA JANE SOJOURNER, b. Abt. 1832. Generation No. 3 4. DOUGLAS MCGRAW3 SOJOURNER (SAMUEL2, GABRIEL1) was born 9 June 1836 in Alabama6,7,8, and died 12 July 1878 in near Mansfield, LA9. He married AMANDA A. SOLOMAN10. Child of DOUGLAS SOJOURNER and AMANDA SOLOMAN is: 6. i. ELLA GERTRUDE4 SOJOURNER, b. 16 April 1872, LA. 5. ROBERT NORWOOD3 SOJOURNER (BRIDGES2, GABRIEL1) was born 1830 in St. Mary Parish, LA, and died 11 August 1858 in Patterson, St. Mary Parish, LA. He married MARY VICTORIA MCMURTRY 1856 in St. Mary Parish, LA, daughter of JAMES MCMURTRY and MARIE CHERET. Child of ROBERT SOJOURNER and MARY MCMURTRY is: 7. i. ROBERTA NORWOOD4 SOJOURNER, b. 26 September 1858, Patterson, St. Mary Parish, LA; d. 28 August 1940, Liberty, Liberty Co., TX. Generation No. 4 6. ELLA GERTRUDE4 SOJOURNER (DOUGLAS MCGRAW3, SAMUEL2, GABRIEL1) was born 16 April 1872 in LA10. She married RICHARD JEREMIAH BRYANT, son of JEREMIAH BRYANT. Melaney Moore-Dodson Programmer Analyst Texas Center for Adult Literacy Department of Educational Human Resource Development College of Education Texas A&M University 409-862-6518 FAX 409-845-0952 WEB SITES: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Texas Center for Adult Literacy <http://www.cdlr.tamu.edu/tcall> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Moore Milestones" <http://www.cdlr.tamu.edu/mmdhome> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Risinger Reunion" <http://www.cdlr.tamu.edu/mmdhome/rising.htm> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Family Tree Maker site: <http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/m/o/o/Melaney--MooreDodson/> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Geo Cities Site: "Mel's Music Pages" <http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/6421/> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Here is my Surginer line. I don't really have too many dates as of yet, but I am working on it and will post them as soon as I do. John R. Surginer m. Mary Ann Hatcher Cantrell Hill (d. in early 1930s) their son, Ernest R. Surginer (d. 1960s) m. (Jul. 1915; Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., TX) Ruby Mae Ingram (d. 1980) Ernest and Ruby had four daughters: Ethel Louise (1916-)m. (early 40s) Walter Earl Hempel (1915-1985) One daughter Evelyn (b. abt. 1918-9, d. 01/1997) married a few times (Garland, Robertson, and Sylvester) Two children by P. Garland, one daughter, one son Rosalyn (b. early to mid 20s) m. Michael Theodore Smith Two children, one son, one daughter Mary Nadine (b. abt mid 20s, d. 60s?--breast cancer)m. ??Burns Two daughters I know it's sketchy, but if anyone has any info, please post to list or email me directly at [email protected] Thanks, Kim Elkins

Hello, My line is with Robert Surginer d.1778. His son, John m. Mary Pope. Their daughter, Rebecca Surginer b.1781 d. 1823, Winnsboro, Fairfield Dist. SC. m. Samuel Johnston Ruby and I share the same line.(Different spelling) Billie of Texas

My earliest Surgener is my gr gr grandfather Stephen Samuel Surgener, born Jan 6, 1831, Hawkins Co. TN, died July 4, 1904, Blackwater, Lee Co., VA. Mar Elizabeth LIVESAY, 10 children. Also researching other Surgeners in the Lee Co. VA/Hawkins/Hancock Co. Tn** area, both for relationship to SSS and also for connections to other family lines--LIVESAY, TESTERMAN, ANDERSON, STAPLETON, BAKER, DAVIS (all established in the Lee/Hawkins/Hancock area by 1830). And because several of these lines migrated from Grayson Co. VA 1818-1830, the Surgener connections in the Grayson Co. VA/Ashe Co. NC area are also of special interest. **These are: Abraham R. Surgener, b Green Co. TN 1826, d Lee Co. VA 1895, mar Nancy ? 6 children Manson Surgener, b TN c 1839, d 1862, mar Maria FIELDS, 1 child Thomas Surgener, b Hawkins Co TN c 1842, mar Minerva HALL, res Scott Co VA 1865 Nancy Resch, Pennsylvania

In response to the roll call: I'm researching: Joseph Campbell Surgevor (yes with a V - found on marriage certificate) a.k.a. Joseph Francis Campbell b. July 17, 1910 d. March 3, 1977 Father: Peter Mother: Elizabeth Campbell Birth Location: Ballymena Ireland Emigrated from Ireland around 1926 - 1929 to Quebec. Steve

> I am forwarding this to the mail list for Steve <[email protected]> - > contact him at this email address or via the SURGENER mail list so we can > all learn something! > > > Can someone recommend a source that enumerates the ships that departed > Ireland for Canada (Quebec) in the early part of the 1925 - 1935? I have > seen ship logs, but they are all for the 1800s, and I need a listing for > the early 1900s. The ship I am looking for in particular is the Duchess of > York. Has anyone ever heard of this ship? Does anyone know what steamship > line it may have been associated with - for example Cunard, etc. > > Thank you all for any insights. > Happy New Year! > > Steve ******************* Hi Steve would bewise to post his enquiry on the: "ShipsList" Mailing List Regards Darryl Pearce Burleigh Falls Ontario CANADA email [email protected] Rooting for WORBY/WARBY NFK/SFK PEACE DBY/NTS STONER WRY RUFFELL NFK/SFK BYWATER WRY SURGENOR NI TURTON ALB.CANADA

My Roll-Call James SURGENOR & Martha LAMONT of Portglenone NI. Children: James SURGENOR b 15th April 1903 Lizrodden, Portglenone,County Antrim, NI. Bela SURGENOR Sally SURGENOR Cassie SURGENOR Lisa Jane SURGENOR Hugh SURGENOR Regards Darryl Pearce Burleigh Falls Ontario CANADA email [email protected] Rooting for WORBY/WARBY NFK/SFK PEACE DBY/NTS STONER WRY RUFFELL NFK/SFK BYWATER WRY SURGENOR NI TURTON ALB.CANADA

Earliest SURGEONER ancestor is George Surgeoner, born about 1794 somewhere in Ireland. He migrated to Scotland early in his life and married Jean Tennock on 18 Apr 1819 in Saint Quivox, Ayrshire, Scotland where he spent the remainder of his life. He died on 28 Oct 1872 in Ayr, Ayrshire, Scotland. Scotland death records for this period usually give the names of parents, but in George's case, his parents were not identified. I have been successful in identifying 206 of his descendants. Claude in Chicago

We haven't posted our lines for quite some time. To introduce ourselves to new people to the mail list, and to learn of their interest, we'll do a Roll Call. Everybody please post the people you are researching; they don't have to be direct lines and it doesn't matter how the name was spelled - there were many variations. My Surgener line begins with a 7th great grandmother: OLIVE SURGENER [Pope Dickson] (ca 1745-1820) > ROBERT SURGENER (____-1778) > JOHN SURGENER (____-1728) Ruby of Idaho

I am forwarding this to the mail list for Steve <[email protected]> - contact him at this email address or via the SURGENER mail list so we can all learn something! Can someone recommend a source that enumerates the ships that departed Ireland for Canada (Quebec) in the early part of the 1925 - 1935? I have seen ship logs, but they are all for the 1800s, and I need a listing for the early 1900s. The ship I am looking for in particular is the Duchess of York. Has anyone ever heard of this ship? Does anyone know what steamship line it may have been associated with - for example Cunard, etc. Thank you all for any insights. Happy New Year! Steve

RootsWeb does not allow postings to mail lists that have not had the HTML or RTF formats turned off. If list subscribers have not done so, or don't know how to change their settings, please go to http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/listowners/html-off.htm and choose the web source/sources you are using for your email and follow the instructions. I would hate to see your mail bounce because of this. Thank you. Ruby

I hope someone on the SURGENER mail list can help Steve. Darryl, ideas? Ruby _____________________________________ >Delivered-To: [email protected] >Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 04:51:02 -0800 (PST) >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: Internet Resources for Ballymena >From: [email protected] >X-Mailer: Procmail Autoreply >X-Loop: [email protected] >CC: [email protected] > >From [email protected] > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BE3492.87AA3120 > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > Hello all, > > > I am just beginning my journey into discovering my family history, and = > > have been very fortunate to find this mailing list. Thank you for = > > allowing me to participate. > > > I have a question for the group. What is a good internet resource for = > > researching records in Ballymena Ireland? > > > My grandfather Joseph Francis Campbell emigrated from Ireland in early - = > > mid 1900's to Quebec City Canada. He was married to Catherine Wood. = > > When we went to Quebec City to get a copy of the marriage certificate = > > for our records, we discovered that his name was not Campbell after all, = > > but rather Surgenor. He changed his name for some reason. He was born = > > July 17, 1910, and we do indeed knowthat he was from Ballymena. He was = > > catholic - as I understand it, there are not too many Catholic Churches = > > in Ballymena (County Antrim) - mostly protestant. > > > So here I begin my journey. Can someone recommend a good resource back = > > in Ireland given my minimal details. > > > Thank You all in advance. > > > Steve Campbell (should have been Surgenor) >

Wishing each of you happy and safe Holidays with fun, laughter and sparkles. Love, Ruby

Know wonder we don't know what we're doing half the time!! -----copy----- >Subject: Say What? > >>["Who's on First?" appeared 14 December 1998 as a message posted >>on the soc.genealogy.computing newsgroup.] >> >>Let's see now ... >> >>The Learning Company bought Mindscape, which just released Family >>Tree Creator, which it bought from IMSI (where it was called >>Family Heritage), which bought it from Corel when it was called >>Family Tree Suite and had incorporated chart technology acquired >>from Progeny Software. >> >>The Learning Company also bought Broderbund, which bought Banner >>Blue (which had just bought Automated Archives) and its Family >>Tree Maker and then bought Parsons Technology, publishers of >>Family Origins. >> >>And The Learning Company recently bought Palladium, publishers of >>The Ultimate Family Tree, which it had bought from CommSoft, >>where it was known as Roots. >> >>TLC also owns another genealogy program called Family Tree, the >>roots of which are unknown to me. And it recently acquired the >>rights to the domain name genealogy.com, which had been used by a >>group interested in German genealogy. >> >>Now comes word that Mattel, the toy maker, is buying The Learning >>Company, giving rise to some interesting questions: >> >>Will Barbie be assisting Paul [Burchfield of TLC aka Broderbund >>aka Banner Blue] in answering questions about America's favorite >>genealogy toy? >> >>And which of the above genealogy programs is sophisticated enough >>to handle all the vagaries of the above genealogy of genealogy >>programs? >> >>Stay tuned ... it will only be a matter of time until Ken takes >>over genealogy. In fun (I think), >> >> Richard A. Pence <[email protected]>

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