My great great grandfathers name was Henry Surgener. I have heard he came through North Carolina and ended up in Black Water Va. His son John Surgener is my Great grandfather and ended up settling Surgener branch at the bottom of crummies mountain in Cranks KY. anyone with more information on this can e-mail me and let me know, I would really appreciate it.. Lee Surgener

HI my name is Lee Surgener and i am just looking to find any possible relation to any other Surgeners that are from Harlan Co. Kentucky or Lee Co. Virginia. My Grandfathers name was Jim Surgener from Kawood, and my Great Grandfathers name was John Surgener from Lee Co. Virginia. Any information is appreciated.

>From the Index to War of 1812 Service Records (Natl. Archives M-602, Rolls 185 & 202) Surgener, Thomas, also filed under Sergener, Thomas Capt Mask's Co NC Militia, Private. Sergener, William, also filed under Serginer, William 78 Reg Feb-Mar 1815 VA Militia, Private Serginer, Rodrick Rowe's Reg., SC Militia, Private Surgenor, Abraham Bunch's Reg't (1814) E. Tennessee Militia Private Surgenor, John 56 Reg't (Lynn's) VA Militia Corporal Surghner, John 57 Reg VA Mil Private The actual physical records are not on microfilm, but can be viewed at the National Archives in Washington. Nancy Resch [email protected]

>Delivered-To: [email protected] >Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 01:19:59 -0400 >From: Lee Surgener <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; U) >To: [email protected] >Subject: Surgeners > >I am looking for any Surgeners that are from Harlan Co. Kentucky or from >Lee County Virginia. My great grandfather was John Surgener who was born >on or around 1880. My grandfathers name was Jim Surgener who had >brothers named Manzo,and Steve Surgener. > >

>Delivered-To: [email protected] >Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 01:49:31 -0400 >From: Lee Surgener <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; U) >To: [email protected] >Subject: Surgener > >HI my name is lee surgener and my great grandfathers name was john >surgener who was born on or around 1880. He came from virginia but thats >all i have other than he settled in Harlan Co. Kentucky. any help is >appreciated. Lee > >

>> The Census Taker >> >> It was the first day of census, and all through the land; >> The pollster was ready ... a black book in hand. >> He mounted his horse for a long dusty ride; >> His book and some quills were tucked close by his side. >> A long winding ride down a road barely there; >> Toward the smell of fresh bread wafting, up through the air. >> The woman was tired, with lines on her face; >> And wisps of brown hair she tucked back into place. >> She gave him some water ... as they sat at the table; >> And she answered his questions ... the best she was able. >> He asked of her children... Yes, she had quite a few; >> The oldest was twenty, the youngest not two. >> She held up a toddler with cheeks round and red; >> his sister, she whispered, was napping in bed. >> She noted each person who lived there with pride; >> And she felt the faint stirrings of the wee one inside. >> He noted the sex, the color, the age... >> The marks from the quill soon filled up the page. >> At the number of children, she nodded her head; >> And saw her lips quiver for the three that were dead. >> The places of birth she "never forgot"; >> Was it Kansas? or Utah? or Oregon ... or not? >> They came from Scotland, of that she was clear; >> But she wasn't quite sure just how long they'd been here. >> They spoke of employment, of schooling and such; >> They could read some .and write some .. though really not much. >> When the questions were answered, his job there was done; >> So he mounted his horse and he rode toward the sun. >> We can almost imagine his voice loud and clear; >> "May God bless you all for another ten years." >> Now picture a time warp ... its' now you and me; >> As we search for the people on our family tree. >> We squint at the census and scroll down so slow; >> As we search for that entry from long, long ago. >> Could they only imagine on that long ago day; >> That the entries they made would effect us this way? >> If they knew, would they wonder at the yearning we feel; >> And the searching that makes them so increasingly real. >> We can hear if we listen the words they impart; >> Through their blood in our veins and their voice in our heart. >> >> Author Unknown >> >> >> > > >

Hi all I have updated my web listing exporting my database on Surgeoners and variants. My research in Ireland is made much easier if people keep me informed of known emigrations and deaths elsewhere in the world of people whose birth possibly appears on my list. (it stops me having to wonder so much which William Surgenor a particular death might refer to) so I would welcome any information from others. The web site is at http://vzone.virgin.net/jackson.eagleson/surgenor/index.htm Regards Jackson

This is FYI - one of the best explanations of the LDS site records I've seen yet. However, if you do a Customized Search by surname, it will pull up a list of books housed at Salt Lake that includes the surname. Again, as you know, take everything with a grain of salt until you've proven it for yourself step-by-step. Just because it's in print, doesn't mean it's right. If something includes documented sources, it's a better bet than most and at least you have a starting point to check for yourselves. Enjoy! Ruby - --------------------------- >Below is some information regardin the LDS Family History site. There are >some problems because of the massive demand. > >Additionally, I want to ditto what has been said about the accuracy of the >IGI and Ancestral File. Unless the information was retrieved as part of the >Controlled Extraction Program back in the 70s, then be prepared for errors. >Both the IGI and Ancestral File information is submitted by individuals and >these entries are NOT checked for accuracy by Salt Lake. The Church has told >submitters to ensure their work is as complete and correct as possible, but >this has not been the case, and, like many of you, I have come across some >bizarre information. Ultimately, both the IGI and Ancestral File can be good >research tools but they can't always be taken as gospel truth! > >Finally, while the information in the IGI cannot be changed (unless the >validity of the ordinance work is affected) if mistakes are found in >Ancestral File, they can be corrected by submitting a GEDCOM disk from any of >the genealogical software programs. > >Happy Searching! > >Jane > > > >CHURCH GENEALOGY WEBSITE SWAMPED >See http://www.desnews.com/dn/view/1%2C1249%2C100003951%2C00.html > ><A >HREF="http://www.desnews.com/dn/view/1%2C1249%2C100003951%2C00.html">Link</A> >See http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0%2C4586%2C2266660%2C00.html > ><A >HREF="http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0%2C4586%2C2266660%2C00.html"> Lin >k</A> >See http://www.omaha.com/Omaha/OWH/StoryViewer/1%2C3153%2C161611%2C00.html > ><A >HREF="http://wwwomaha.com/Omaha/OWH/StoryViewer/1%2C3153%2C161611%2C00.html ">L >ink</A> > > >In response to the overwhelming demand for access to the genealogy website >sponsored by the Church, a temporary measure was implemented which limited >visitors to only 15 minutes access time. Technicians estimate that as many >as 100 million "hits" are being registered at the site each day, which is >only able to respond to about 40 million of them. The website address is >http://www.FamilySearch.org > >Meanwhile, praise continues to come in for the Church's efforts. "The >collection of names is an awesome accomplishment in itself, but the treasure >of information it opens to genealogical researchers is priceless." > >Copyright 1999, LDSWorld-Gems - distributed on the Internet via the >LDSWorld-Gems mailing list. Messages may be forwarded to individuals if this >trailer is included, but may *not* be re-posted publicly or reprinted in any >other form without explicit permission. LDSWorld-Gems webpage: >http://www.lds-gems.com/ >To subscribe to Gems, send a message to "[email protected]" with >"subscribe ldsworld-gems" (without quotes) in the message body; or to leave >the list, say "unsubscribe ldsworld-gems". >David Kenison, Orem, Utah - [email protected], [email protected] > > > >

Hi! Not sure if this is new or not as I've not been on but a short time. Found this will at archives in NC on my last trip. I'm not to good at reading the writing, but this is the best I could do. Jane IN THE NAME OF GOD, AMEN I Robert Surginer of Edgecomb County in the Province of North Carolina being weak of body but of perfect and sound Memory do think proper at this time to settle any worldly affairs, For which purpose I make and ordain this my last Will and Testament, Revoking all other Wills formally by me made or caused to be made, But do acknowledge and affirm this to be my last. I lend to my loving wife Catherine all my Land and plantation with all my stocks of Cattle, Horses, Sheep and Hogs, also all my Houshold furniture and Plantation. Utensils of every kind, During her Widowhood and no Longer; And at the Determination of her Said Widowhood it is my Will and Desire that my Son John Surginer shall have, Hold, Enjoy and (can’t read) all my said Land, Houshold furniture, Stocks of every kind for Himself and his Heirs forever. I give to my Son William Surginer One shilling (Can’t read) I give to my son Benjamin Surginer One shilling. I also give to each of my Daughters One Shilling Namely; Sarah Surginer, Olive Pope and Hannah Sikes.(?) Lastly I appoint my S. Son John Executor of this my last Will and Testament. In Witness whereof I have here unto sset my hand and seal this ? day of August. Anno Dom 1773 Signed and sealed his in presence of Robert Surginer Robt Diggers mark Wm. Williams Uriah Williams

Thanks a LOT, Jane! There seems to be quite a bit of affiliation between the Surginers and Williamses in Edgecombe Co. I've always wondered if Catherine was a Williams but cannot find anything pointing towards a possible maiden name for her at all - at least not in what I have available. Really appreciate this. By the way, if there are new mail list subscribers who haven't seen the Surgener webpages, they are at: http://home.rmci.net/adamewa/index.htm I hope you find something of use to your search there! Ruby - -------------------------------------- At 10:59 PM 5/18/99 -0400, you wrote: >Hi! Not sure if this is new or not as I've not been on but a short >time. Found this will at archives in NC on my last trip. I'm not to >good at reading the writing, but this is the best I could do. > >Jane > >IN THE NAME OF GOD, AMEN > >I Robert Surginer of Edgecomb County in the Province of North Carolina >being weak of body but of perfect and sound Memory do think proper at >this >time to settle any worldly affairs, For which purpose I make and ordain >this >my last Will and Testament, Revoking all other Wills formally by me made > >or caused to be made, But do acknowledge and affirm this to be my last. > >I lend to my loving wife Catherine all my Land and plantation with all >my >stocks of Cattle, Horses, Sheep and Hogs, also all my Houshold furniture >and >Plantation. Utensils of every kind, During her Widowhood and no Longer; > >And at the Determination of her Said Widowhood it is my Will and Desire >that my Son John Surginer shall have, Hold, Enjoy and (can�t read) all >my >said Land, Houshold furniture, Stocks of every kind for Himself and his >Heirs forever. > >I give to my Son William Surginer One shilling (Can�t read) > >I give to my son Benjamin Surginer One shilling. > >I also give to each of my Daughters One Shilling > >Namely; Sarah Surginer, Olive Pope and Hannah Sikes.(?) > >Lastly I appoint my S. Son John Executor of this my last Will and >Testament. >In Witness whereof I have here unto sset my hand and seal this ? day of >August. Anno Dom 1773 > >Signed and sealed his >in presence of Robert >Surginer >Robt Diggers mark > >Wm. Williams >Uriah Williams > > > >

Boy, this list has been quiet for a long time!! Has anybody been able to put together another generation or found any new documentation on your Surgener line by any spelling??? Were there any Surgeners on the Union side of the Civil War? Ruby

http://www.cyberramp.net/~jwheat/williamson.html POSTMASTERS & POST OFFICES OF WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS 1849 - 1930 FLORENCE (Williamson) [town] Atkinson, John W., 25 Nov 1857 Smith, J. C., 2 Oct 1858 Atkinson, John W., 9 Sep 1859 Atkinson, John W., 17 Jan 1862 (CSA) Adams, P. H., 19 Sep 1864 (CSA) Brown, Smith, 7 May 1866 Adams, Miss Nancy, 30 Mar 1868 Benedict, Ozias, 7 May 1868 Adams, Philip H., 20 May 1870 SURGINER, Wesley, 11 Oct 1871 Moore, Jas. P., 6 May 1872 Caskey, Robt. B., 26 Mar1873 Jackson, Stephen K. P., 6 Dec 1882 McClain, Sam'l. B., 27 Nov 1885 SURGINER, Madaline, 29 Apr 1890 SURGINER, Mattie A., 28 Apr 1894 Perry, Sam'l. F., 23 Jan 1895 Preslar, Joel, 25 Jun 1897 Cannon, Bessie, 26 Aug 1901 Atkinson, Jas. F., 6 Apr 1918

I have not checked this site out personally yet but sounds like something to pass a long! Ruby ----------------------------------- >Delivered-To: [email protected] >Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:32:16 -0700 (PDT) >From: "Lynne Evans" <[email protected]> >Old-To: "Pope List" <[email protected]> >Subject: Civil War picture site >Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:30:33 -0400 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 >To: [email protected] >Resent-From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/910 >X-Loop: [email protected] >Resent-Sender: [email protected] > >The United States Army Military History Institute in Pa has a searchable >database of 27,000 photos of Union troops. > >http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usamhi/PhotoDB.html > >You can search it online and order copies of the pictures. I just checked >it out and there were 12 Pope pictures. You can't see the pictures but >they're described and have the names of the individuals. Natutally there >were quite a few Maj. Gen John Pope but there were some others too. > >Lynne > > >

Notice of this virus called "Melissa" or variations was in this morning's paper as fact; only the second such virus warning to go public. According to the article, you have to open the attachment and it attacks WORD97 documents - it does not seem to damage systems - only MSWord97 text. Never the less, DO NOT OPEN ANY ATTACHMENT from someone you do not know AT ANY TIME. ----------------------------------- >>I am forwarding this from Larry Stephens who is the list master of several >>lists. He used to he the head master of Meiser (spelling?) before it >>crashed a few years ago and Rootsweb kindly took over most of the lists. >> >>Diana >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Stephens, Larry V <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>Date: Sunday, March 28, 1999 5:09 PM >>Subject: FW: E-mail virus/worm spreading rapidly at IU...from the lists ow >>ner >> >> >>>1. This comes from a credible source - our main computer people. >>>2. This does NOT mean the lists are getting infected. >>>3. Before people get confused again, let me clarify their message. They >>say >>>the email message with the subject noted has an attached file. They say >>>don't even open the message, just delete it. >>> >>> Opening the email message WILL NOT spread the virus. Opening the >>>attached Word file WILL spread the virus. However, their advice to just >>>delete the email message itself is sound advice, because some people will >>>open the email, then be tempted to open the Word file just to see what >>>happens (sort of like the apple in the Garden of Eden). They are saying, >>>"don't tempt fate, delete the email message." Good advice. >>> >>>4. You'll see that CNet has information on this. That implies this is not >>>limited to IU's mail system (which is logical). >>> >>>-------- >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: IU Information Technology Security Office >>>Sent: Saturday, March 27, 1999 1:26 AM >>>Subject: E-mail virus/worm spreading rapidly at IU >>> >>> >>>If you receive an e-mail message with the subject: >>> >>> "Important Message From ..." >>> >>>Do NOT open it, and DELETE it immediately. The message contains a >>>Microsoft Word file attachment, which contains a dangerous macro >>>"worm" (similar to a virus). If you open this file, the macro >>>will send multiple copies of the file and worm to many other users, >>>hence causing it to spread extremely rapidly. It will also infect >>>your machine with a version of itself that will be present in any >>>new Microsoft Word documents you create. >>> >>>This is not a hoax. The Indiana University IT Security Office >>>and UITS have determined that the Microsoft Word macro "worm" is >>>loose on the IU-Bloomington and IUPUI campus. This worm is also >>>infecting other sites around the world. See the last section of >>>this message for further technical details. >>> >>>WHAT WE'RE DOING >>> >>> We have reconfigured the main IUB and IUPUI mail relay systems >>> to attempt to detect possible copies of the macro, and to return >>> the message to the sender rather than allowing it be delivered. >>> Although this may be limiting some legitimate mail, it has arrested >>> the propagation outside of the campus Microsoft Exchange systems, >>> which many faculty and staff use as their primary e-mail service. >>> >>> We disabled the Microsoft Exchange system for a period early >>> Friday evening in order to temporarily halt propagation of >>> the worm, and to allow time for a solution to be found to the >>> problem. 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It is available from SoftServe, >>> or from IUWare: >>> >>> (this applies only to IU people) >>> >>>FURTHER TECHNICAL DETAILS >>> >>> A worm replicates itself by trying to send multiple copies of >>> itself to other recipients, who, in turn, execute the worm and >>> do the same. >>> >>> This particular worm is in the form of a Microsoft Word macro. >>> An unsuspecting user receives a message with an attached Word >>> document that contains the macro. If the user opens the document >>> and allows the macro to execute (either by having disabled this >>> protection in MS Word, or by confirming on a dialog box), the >>> macro will execute and propagate itself. >>> >>> This macro also modifies your default document template to cause >>> all new documents that you write to contain the worm. 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Martha Jane SURGINER born May 1829 in North Carolina ( 1900 Census)and died after 1900. (was living in 1900 Census) Martha Jane was married to Samuel Ferdinand STONE. All family records that I have are from the Richmond County, NC area. Death certificate of daughter, Elizabeth, lists her parents as Ferd STONE and Martha Jane SURGINER, both born in NC. I believe Martha Jane's parents to be John and Jane SURGINER, but have no real proof of this. Just going by supposition from census information. I do know that at one time there was a cemetery in Rockingham, North Carolina that was at one called the SURGINER Cemetery and had an Uncle that remembered visiting the site and there being a large SURGINERMarker in the middle. Today that cemetery is a wooded, overgrown lot in a residential area of Rockingham. I have visited the site and found evidence of sunken graves and the grave of one descendant marked by a funeral home marker. This person was buried in 1974. I have plans to visit another cemetery in the area that has at least one SURGINER buried there - Jno. SURGINOR, age 98 at death - no other information available on the death certificate. If I am correct about Martha Jane's parentage, then she had at least two siblings; Celia, born about 1831 and John, born about 1837. Would love to correspond with anyone having any information about these folks! Thanks!

Using the USGenWeb State Search, I found these searching for only spellings Surgener or Surginer. I did not take the time to do all the states. R ============================================================ KY-Footsteps Tuesday, 29 July 1997 Volume 01 : Number 168 Subject: KY-F: Pineville Cem - BELL CO. Surgener Sid 01/01/1889 11/22/1971 Surgener Flora E. 08/03/1891 09/11/1984 .............................................................. SILENT HOME CEMETERY, Roger Mills County, State of Oklahoma Surginer, Jack, Born 06-10-1903 died 11-12-1987 Surginer, Sadie Eunice Smith, Born 06-27-1918 Died 09-07-1985, Wife of Jack ..............................................................

Diana and all, Barry County Marriages 1837-1854 (Missouri) by Elizabeth Prather Ellsbery SURGENER, Wiley m.10 Sep 1846 Jane Fly (10 other Fly families indexed in this book). Posted to the SURGENER webpage today. Ruby

In case someone hasn't found these yet: http://home.rmci.net/adamewa/index.htm

>My name is Brian W. Surgener. I am a direct decendent of the Surgeners >born in Cawood Kentucky (Harlan County). I am the son of Denver Surgener. >Denver's parents were Jim and Maggie Surgener. Jim died in 1990, but >Maggie is alive, doing well, and living in Cawood. Here's the blood line. > >John Surgener & Manerva Surgener had sons by the name of Manzo, Steve, Roy, >and Jim. They had daughters named Mint and Jane. I was told that John >Surgener had been married prior to his marriage with Manerva Surgener, and >that he had two children. I was also told that they moved out to >California. I note that there's a Brian Surgener in California who plays >College football. May be them??? > >John's boy Manzo had he following children: Henry, John, Columbus, Jim, >Clarence, Hazel & Nancy. Manzo was a lawman and was shot going into a bath >house. This happened in Crummies, Kentucky. This fact is confirmed by the >family. Manzo's boy Jim, died in 1994 at the age of 62. He had two >children--Jim and Janet. Jim is 41 and lives in Lexington, Kentucky. I've >spoken with him. He has a 1/2 brother named James. He would be about 61 >or so. Does anyone know where he's at?? Clarence is still living in >Cawood. Nancy's married name is Howard. > >Steve had a son named John Surgener. He may have had other children--dont' >know. John lives in Yspilanti, Michigan. He has other brothers, but I >don't know their names. John's son is also named John. His wife's name is >Kim. I was told by John that Steve had 17 children, by many wives. One of >his sons is Noah Surgener. He 71 and lives near Cawood. I spoke with him. > >Roy is now dead. I don't know his children's names. > >Jim is my grandfather. He died in 1990. He had children named Ted (lives >in Michigan), Manzo (Ohio), Joe (Las Vegas), Lynn (Michigan), Finley >(Ohio), Jimmy (Ohio), Denver (Florida), Robert (Michigan), Earnestly >(Ohio), & Manerva (Cawood, Kentucky). I know all of them, as they are my >uncles and aunt. Each had many children, which I know the names of. If >you need the names, let me know. > >I don't know anything about John's daughters Mint and Jane. Can anyone >shed any light on the subject?? > >Also, does anyone know who John Surgener's father was? (The first John listed) > > > >

Contributed by Diana Jeffries McDonald Co., MO, Marriage Book A, 1865-1878 SURGINER, Wright m.14 Mar 1869 Mary Simons - (pg 7) SURGENER, Eliabeth m.18 Dec 1875 W. A. Armstrong - (pg 27) SURGINER, Richard m.17 Aug 1876 Elizabeth Hastings - (pg 28) ----------------------- 1840 Newton Co., MO, census index = SURGEON, Richard ----------------------- OAK GROVE CEMETERY - Cleburne Co., AR (Made available to The USGenWeb Archives by David [email protected]) Oak Grove Cemetery is located about one mile southwest of the post office at Wolf Bayou on land donated by H. L. Ward. This listing by Busy Bee Club Members 5 Jun 1968. The cemetery contains 335 graves - 188 with visible and readable markers. SURGENER, Stephen S., Dec. 20, 1862 - May 1, 1921. SURGENER, Alex A., Feb. 1, 1888 - Oct. 9, 1958. SURGENER, Sopha Ordlena, May 9, 1892 - Apr. 13, 1962. Ruby http://home.rmci.net/adamewa/indexaft.htm census - http://home.rmci.net/adamewa/census.htm