After doing some SUMPTER family research and sending obits to the sumpter-l roots web. I received two communications-both telling me that they thought my granny was; ELIZA A.HARGIS married to Urban (ERBIN) Sumpter on 18 March 1819. They gave the birthday of Erbin Sumpter as: born 1819 in Franklin Co. IN. I know that she had a child in Carthage, MO in 10 May 1865. His name was John Elias Sumpter. He moved to Okla and died there. He had two wives. One was from a family called "DENNIS" and Annie Pearl CRISS Sumpter. So, the mother of John E. Sumpter is my first Hargis ancestor. It is a maiden line. I have her married in 1839 and giving birth in 1865 : The following is speculation: (after 26 years of marriage)--if we speculate her age at marriage as 18 then she would have been born about 1821, and age 47 at birth of that child---an old age for a birth. Does anyone have any light to shed on this? sincerely, judy hugg grimes