Hi Jim: I had this posting on my e-mail and decided to forward it to the web...doesn't ring any bells for me...but maybe someone knows of these persons. Also, I encouraged this person to please join our roots web as we are knowledgeable and have a great time. Hope he/she does. Later... Beverley Sumpter --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: Sumpter Family Date: 97-11-08 11:06:44 EST From: DdHober To: BSump0103 I have two names of Sumpters and was curious if you knew of them. My great grandmother was Letha Sumpter DOB is Sept 17 or 18, 1860 the other is her father Wells Sumpter. Letha married Johnathon Eoff and their daughter is my grandmother Parlee Rosa Eoff Brown who married Thomas Brown. Letha and Johnathen had 4 children Thomas, Lucinda, Parlee and John. Is there any connection? DdHober@aol.com

The following is forwarded for information. Jim Young ========================== Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 05:58:28 -0800 (PST) From: "John H. Wyman" <JohnWyman@sprintmail.com> Subject: Don't Send Your Money Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 08:44:25 -0500 Resent-Message-ID: <"SKo4cD.A.YV.ZzGZ0"@bl-14.rootsweb.com> Resent-From: RICHARDSON-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <RICHARDSON-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/274 X-Loop: RICHARDSON-L@rootsweb.com Resent-Sender: RICHARDSON-L-request@rootsweb.com The following article is from Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter and is copyright 1997 by Richard W. Eastman and Ancestry, Inc. It is re-published here with the permission of the author. ================================================================ - Halbert's - Up To Old Tricks I have been writing about Halbert's for years. I first wrote an article about them in 1989, long before this newsletter came into existence. Since 1989 I have purchased two of their "books," seen several other Halbert's "books" and have followed their numerous legal problems in several countries. If you have been involved in genealogy for a while, you probably know about Halbert's. If so, you can skip the next 5 paragraphs. For anyone who is new to genealogy, however, I will offer a bit of background information. Halbert's of Bath, Ohio, is the most notorious of the mail order companies that send out ads offering to sell you "an astounding new book" with insinuations that the book tells all about your family name. These letters, as well as the "books," are all mass produced by computers with family surnames and your name inserted in appropriate places. For instance, a letter sent to me will say: I have exciting news for you and all Eastmans! Though we are probably not related, I want to tell you about extensive work done throughout the world on a project relating to the distinguished Eastman name. What might be the oldest facts about Eastmans in North America have been discovered. Now, an astounding new book, 'THE NEW WORLD BOOK OF EASTMANS,' is about to be published for you and it features Eastmans back to 1620." The advertisement then goes on in breathless prose with lots of exclamation marks scattered about. It claims to present facts about early Eastmans and also asserts that it includes an up-to- date international directory of Eastmans. If your name is Smith, then the letter sent to you will have the name Smith inserted in every place where my letter says Eastman. If you live in England or Germany or some other country, then the geographic references will be changed to match. (Halbert's is an international operation.) All of the advertisements will claim to be "a one-of a kind book." If you are gullible enough to order the book for $34.50 plus another $4.88 postage and handling, you eventually receive a booklet of general information about how to get started researching genealogy plus many pages of extracts from old telephone directories listing people with the same last name as yours. The Eastman "book" that I looked at last year had names and addresses listed for some of my relatives who had been deceased for years. The "one-of-a-kind book" lives up to the description; it actually has a cardboard cover and looks like it was glued together on someone's kitchen table. The pages in the 1996 Eastman "book" weren't even aligned properly. I don't know when Halbert's started this business, but I know they were already notorious in genealogy circles in the mid-1980s. They have frequently received legal injunctions from postal authorities, but that doesn't seem to slow Halbert's down very much; apparently they continue to send out thousands of these advertisements every week despite legal efforts to shut them down. The Halbert's ad I received in 1989 was signed by "Doris Eastman, i.a." Now, Doris never claimed to be a relative of mine in that advertisement, but the fact that the letter was signed by someone named Eastman lent credence to the "book" title of The New World Book of Eastman. I was intrigued by the letters "i.a." that appeared after Doris Eastman's name. After a fair amount of research, I discovered a Legal Dictionary that listed it as an abbreviation for the Latin words "in absentia" or, translated into English, "in absence." In other words, Doris Eastman wasn't present when the letter was written, and someone else signed her name to it in Doris' absence. In 1989 I called Halbert's and asked to speak to Doris Eastman. I was told that "Doris isn't here right now, can someone else help you?" I was suspicious that Doris was a fictitious name and later court documents proved that my assumption was accurate. I'll point out that calling Halbert's is difficult. Their telephone number isn't in the ad, and it isn't listed by the telephone company. I believe that is rather unusual for a company in the mailorder business, one would think that they would want to receive orders by telephone as well as my mail orders. I was later told that Halbert's mailing address in Bath, Ohio is simply a mail drop; there are no offices at that address for a company called Halbert's. In fact, Halbert's is one of the trade names owned by Numa Corporation in nearby Akron, Ohio. Apparently, mail delivered to the Bath, Ohio, address is simply forwarded to Numa in Akron. I eventually found a number for Numa and called their offices looking for Doris Eastman. Not surprisingly, she wasn't there, either. Halbert's and Numa were in court in 1988 as defendants in an action claiming false advertising. I don't have the details of the 1988 action, but the 1995 complaint referenced an order in 1988 requiring Numa/Halbert's to stop claiming that the advertising letters were signed by relatives of the addressee. The 1995 court session apparently took a dim view of Halbert's fake signatures. Quoting from an announcement released later by the National Genealogical Society: At that time Halbert's was ordered to cease and desist from falsely representing ". . . that (1) a solicitation for a surname-related product was sent by a relative of the solicitee; (2) a relative of a solicitee was involved in preparing a surname-related publication; or that (3) a relative of a solicitee endorses a surname-related product." The Postal Service contended that the company's solicitations, which advertised books such as The World Book of [surname] and The [surname] Since the Civil War, violated the 1988 consent agreement, because they appeared to be letters from relatives of the addressees urging them to purchase a recently completed book on their family. The Halbert's ad that I received in 1996 was not signed by anyone claiming to have the name Eastman, and the letters "i.a." did not appear after the signature. It seemed that Numa and Halbert's had accepted the court ruling. Letters sent to Canada and to England (sometimes under another Numa subsidiary name of Burkes) were still signed by someone claiming to have the same surname with the letters "i.a." I assume that is because the U.S. court decision only covers the United States, and Numa is free to do as they wish in other countries. However... I have in my hands at this moment a Halbert's ad received in California a couple of weeks ago. A member of CompuServe's Genealogy Forums forwarded this advertisement to me as he knew I'd be interested. It is a brand-new ad for the "New World Book of Becks." It has all the same wording as I mentioned above except that the word BECK has been substituted for EASTMAN. What caught my eye is the signature: Nancy J. Beck, i.a. Numa and Halbert's apparently have gone back to their old tricks in violation of the 1995 court order. Fictitious signatures followed by "i.a." are back in use. ================================================================ - And still more on Halbert's... You know, Halbert's business practices have really been good for me. If the postal authorities ever succeed in shutting Halbert's down, I won't have anything left to write about! Halbert's apparently has a new business partner: Texaco. Another CompuServe member in New Hampshire forwarded an ad he received this week from Texaco. It says: A remarkable new book is about to be published and you, ___(insert addressee's name here)___, are in it! Do those words sound familiar? They should. I am skipping a few paragraphs here. But the advertisement continues... The Texaco name represents the best products and service on the road today. And now, for select Texaco Credit Card customers, we offer an amazing new source of information about another important name - the (insert surname here) name! I question the "amazing new source..." Texaco continues.... The New World Book of __(surname)__ is an heirloom-quality edition you can pass on to your children, and share with the entire __(surname)__ family! Published by Halbert's for Texaco customers, and based on a search of over 170 million records worldwide, this amazing book provides information that can help you discover more about the __(surname)__ name than you've ever known before, including: - How family names originated and what the distinguished __(surname)__ means... - The development of family crests..... - The __(surname)__ International Directory, the most extensive registry of households bearing the __(surname)__ today - with listings throughout the world. The Texaco ad goes on and on with the same words that Halbert's has used over the years. In fact, the ad is signed by "Sharon Taylor, Publisher, Halbert's." At least she didn't claim to have the same surname as the addressee of the advertisement and she didn't use "i.a." after her name. The price from Texaco is exactly the same price that Halbert's advertises directly: $34.50 plus $4.88 shipping and handling. I am curious what Halbert's liability is in this advertisement. Since it is on Texaco stationary and mailed to Texaco customers, who is responsible for compliance with the various court orders? Texaco? Texaco was never mentioned in the previous court orders, so probably they can do as they please. At least, for a while. But the ad is signed by a person claiming to be an employee of Halbert's. Does that mean that Halbert's is responsible for the ad and its claims? I will leave that to the lawyers to argue. In the meantime, I have one bit of advice: Skip it. That's a lot of money for a list extracted from telephone directories. ================================================================ John H. Wyman 4136 Clark St. Dublin, OH 43017 (614) 889-0698 - voice (614) 889-0598 - fax JohnWyman@SprintMail.com http://www.e-info-sys.com/~wymanj A genealogy is like a sex life. Mine is fascinating, yours is a bore. Unless, of course, yours crosses mine.

My linw to William sumpter. 1-William B Sumpter, Born ? Married June 18, 1728--Wife, Elizabeth ? Died 1806 in Hanover Va. 2--Capt william Sumpter,-Born Oct 29 1731 in Hanover Va,-Died Oct 23 1820 at Burke Nc--Wife, Judith Randall or Ramsey,Born in Va 3--Felden Sumpter, Born abt 1765 in Rowan Nc or Albermarle Va--died abt 1860 in Randolph County Missouri--Married May 16, 1798 in Rowan/ Burke Nc--Wife Sally ? Born Abt 1783 in Nc--Died after 1860 in Randolph Co. Mo 4--Sumantha Sumpter, Born 1820 in Sc--Died abt 1910--her husband was John A. Hyatt, Born abt 1820 in Turkeyfoot,Somerset Pa--Died Abt 1898 in Macon Mo--Married Nov 27 1840 in Macon Mo. 5--Martha Hyatt, born sept 18 1845 in Monroe Co. Mo --Died Nov 27 1926 in newton Co Arkansas,--Married John William Clayborn Feb 7 1861 in Newton Co. Ar --born Nov 18 1840 in Hickman Co. Tn --Died April 10 1907 in Newton Co. Ar 6-- James Franklin Clayborn abt 1866 in Taney Co. Mo --Died third week of Dec.1900 in Newton Co. Ar --Married Martha Middleton 1895--Born Abt 1878 in Ar -- Died 1967 in Tulsa Oklahoma 7-- James Willie Clayborn, Born Feb 6 1901 in Newton Co Ar --Died Jan 1972 --married Dec 31 1922,--wife Fleecie Sams, Born Feb 7, 1907 in Newton Co. Ar 8-- James E.Clayborn Sr. Born July 7, 1934 in Newton Co. Ar -- Married Feb 19 1956 in Coranth Mississippi, --Wife Ella Jo Simmons, Born Jan 31 1939 1n Anniston Mo If you would like family Group Sheets Email me at Jwhtotr@aol.com James E. Clayborn

Hello Cousins! Let's get the ball rolling again! I'm posting my line from William Sumter to myself...I know this format looks really ugly...copy it to your word processor and it will look better...there must be a lot of folks out there that have some new connections....hope to hear from you all.... Elaine eng4@stc.net Direct Descendants of William Sumter 1 William Sumter d: Bef. November 1752 in Louisa Co., VA .. +Elizabeth Unknown b: Abt. 1695 in ENG d: Abt. 1806 in Albemarle or Orange Co., VA m: 1753-1754 ......... 2 [1] Patience Sumter b: in Hanover Co., VA or Albemarle Co., VA d: Abt. 1805 in Albemarle Co., VA ......... *2nd Husband of [1] Patience Sumter: ............. +James Sudderth b: Abt. 1720 in Stafford Co., VA d: 01 September 1800 in Albemarle Co., VA m: Aft. 1751 in Albemarle Co., VA .................... 3 William Suddarth, Sr. b: 02 February 1756 in Albemarle Co., VA d: Bef. 06 August 1832 in Albemarle Co., VA ........................ +Martha Pleasants b: 26 April 1765 in Goochland Co., VA d: Abt. 1848 in State of Virginia m: 01 April 1786 in Goochland Co., VA ............................... 4 Elizabeth Farrah Suddarth b: Abt. 1800 d: 1861-1865 in Washington Co., VA ................................... +Matthias or Matthew Dettor b: 16 August 1799 in Albemarle Co., VA d: Bef. 25 January 1840 in Albemarle Co., VA m: 09 October 1821 in Albemarle Co., VA ........................................... 5 [2] Henry Kosciusko Dettor b: July 1831 in Albemarle Co., VA d: 29 May 1908 in Panola Co., MS ............................................... +Frances Jane Morris b: Abt. 1835 in Staunton, Augusta, VA m: Abt. 1859 in State of Virginia ...................................................... 6 Mary Elizabeth Dettor b: 02 January 1860 in Washington Co., VA d: 25 February 1937 in Batesville, Panola, MS .......................................................... +Albert Benjamin Bell b: February 1866 in Lafayette Co., MS d: Aft. October 1928 m: 27 January 1886 in Lafayette Co., MS ................................................................. 7 Lucy Cornelia Bell b: 31 July 1889 in Lafayette Co., MS d: 22 January 1967 in Whitfield, Rankin, MS ..................................................................... +Gabriel Moore b: 02 January 1861 in Claiborne Co., MS d: 24 October 1931 in Batesville, Panola, MS m: 21 March 1920 in Batesville, Panola, MS ............................................................................ 8 Ruby Lucille Moore b: 13 July 1923 in Batesville, Panola, MS d: 18 April 1978 in Vicksburg, Warren Co., MS ............................................................................ .... +Charles Wayne Randall b: 14 October 1925 in Amite Co., MS d: 25 June 1987 in Whitfield, Rankin, MS m: 21 December 1947 in Batesville, Panola, MS ............................................................................ ............ 9 Iris Elaine Randall b: 16 October 1948 in Oxford, Lafayette, MS ........................................... *2nd Wife of [2] Henry Kosciusko Dettor:

Hi All SUMPTER Researchers, The SUMPTER list is alive and well. It appears everyone is resting and, perhaps, getting ready for "Turkey Day". In the last three weeks, only a few have subscribed to the list and they may not have built-up the courage to post a query to the list. :-) Perhaps in time they will post their information. Any old-timers, sitting on the sidelines, who hasn't posted their SUMPTER / SUMTER line on the list are encouraged to do so. Also, the old-timers who posted their line three or four months ago, or longer, are encouraged to post their line again. As always, any newly discovered SUMPTER / SUMTER related information is welcome on the list. Happy Huntin' Jim Young

I have not received any e-mail from this site for over two weeks. Is there some problem? Jim Sumpter

Kathy and Greg, Are you in any way tied into a George Schumacher who lived in Wood River, Illinois. Jim Landrum Jpiccafe@aol.com

Hello, I am looking for information on William Clifton Sumpter. He was born in October, 1859 in Webster County, Missouri. He worked as a day laborer and died in 1901 in Webster County, Missouri. In 1887, in Webster County, he married Hannah Symantha Burris, born 10-8-70 in Sturdson, IL. She remarried a Joseph Stanley in 1917 and moved with him to Parsons, Kansas where she died in 1945. William and Hannah had 5 children, 1 daughter and 4 sons. The daughter's name is unknown, as she is believed to have died in infancy, but the sons were John, Brittie, Fred Calvin. The other brother's name I cannot recall right offhand. Brittie Edwin Sumpter was my grandfather, and the baby. I have been unable to find any information on William other than the 1900 census. If anyone has any information, I would greatly appreciate it. I have been trying for 10 years to do this research, but always seem to hit this deadend and I don't know where else to check. Thank you, Deborah

In a follow-up to Susan Cade's 19 Oct 1997 Oklahoma Census listing, I believe I can identify some of the people on the census. Ada Sumpter living with her father A.A.Biggs in Washita County, OK, with daughters Zana (Nana?) and Mozella, married William Samuel Sumpter 16 Oct 1889 in Pulaski Co, TN. According to Dr. Ward C. Sumpter's research, William S. and Ada Biggs Sumpter moved to Texas. William Samuel Sumpter was a son of Volney and Sarah J. Smith Sumpter. Volney was a son of Edmund Randolph and Elizabeth Jenkins Sumpter of Kentucky. Edmund Randolph Sumpter was a son of William and Betsy Wheeler Sumpter of Kentucky, originally of Charlotte Co, VA. According to Dr. Ward Sumpter, Zana married G. E. Bish and Mozella married M.W.King. Dr. Ward Sumpter also descended from William and Betsy Wheeler Sumpter. Harold Sumpter of Turney, MO, in his book "Sumpter, A Branch of The Family Tree" lists James Sumpter age 51 of Dewey Co, OK, as a son of John D. and Rebecca Mullenix Sumpter of Putnam Co, MO. James married Elizabeth Lawson 16 Aug 1855 in Putnam Co, MO. They were the parents of Albert J., George W., and Arley Sumpter all of whom are listed in Dewey Co, OK, 1900 census. John D. Sumpter was a son of Thomas and Elizabeth Coffey Sumpter of Wayne Co, KY. Thomas was a son of John and Catherine ? Sumpter of Burke Co, NC. Harold Sumpter is a descendant of this group. John R. Sumpter, age 54, living in Kay Co, OK, in 1900 was a son of James Preston and Permelia Stearns Sumpter of Jennings Co, IN. John first married Emily Jenkins in 1866. He later married Isabella Gertrude Lyon and had four known children: a son, Helen b 1897,Henry Lyon b 1899 and James b 1888. The family lived in Kansas before moving to Oklahoma. James Preston Sumpter was a son of William and Elizabeth Moad Sumpter. William was a son of Thomas B. and Lydia Kirkpatrick Sumpter of Knox Co,TN. Thomas B. was a son of William and Judith Randall Sumpter of Burke Co, NC. Both John who married Catherine ? and William who married Judith Randall were brothers of General Thomas Sumter. Sorry I cannot identify the others listed on the 1900 OK census. Jane Sumpter Malone-George

To Anyone researching Erbin N. Sumpter: I received this information from a cousin The Nania Allas Meek mentioned here is Erbin N. Sumpter's wife. Erbin Sumpter was the son of George Washington Sumpter and Eliza Camden. Kathy Schumacher ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- Date: 10/20 6:45 PM Received: 10/20 7:26 PM From: Martin Meek, mthappy@PRTCNET.COM To: schumach@ccnet.com Kathy, Thank you for all the information. You mentioned Derssie Sumpter in you last e-mail, yes I know who he is. Dad meet him at one of dad's sister's funerals. He lived at 13985 Idaho Ave. in Hanford,Ca. 93230. His phone no. does not appear in the internet directories, so I do not know if he is living. He sent dad some pages from the old Meek family bible. here are those pages (spelling as written): Name Place of birth birth marriage death W T Meek Henry Co.ky. 1838 1861 Was bornd December 22 th 1838 Nacy Jane meek Crferd Co Ills 1845 1861 Was bornd March 1th 1845 June 15 A D 1895 M A Meek Clay Co Ills sordeparide this life Was bornd feb 24 th 1862 1862 July th 1878 William H. Meek Clay Co. Ills 1866 Was bornd August 15 th Page 2: W. H. Meek Was born Clay aug. the 15 Maried Co. Illinois A D 1866 Sept the 17 AD 1885 Sariah (Meek) was born sept the Maried Johnston Craffard Ad 1869 sept the 17 Co. Ark. 1885 W.W. Meek was born april the sebastian 11 Co. Ark. A D 1887 nania allas was born aug the sebastian 12 Co Ark. A D 1888 Emer Meek Sebastian sept 6 Co. Ark A D 1890 Edny Jane Meek Sebastian Nov 10 Co Ark. A D 1892 Nania Sebastian June 14 Meek Co. Ark A D 1895 In his letter to dad, Derssie said he had the birth dates of the younger children of Grandma Meek in his Grandma Sumpter's Bible. Hope this may fill in some data for you. Best regards, Martin ----------------- End Forwarded Message -----------------

New information found in 1900 Oklahoma Census Soundex T1066 Roll 36 I hope this helps someone with another piece of the puzzle Ada Sumpter Race: W Dob: Feb 1872 Age: 28 Birthplace: Tenn County: Washita Enumerated with: Biggs, A.A. Relationship to above: Daughter Albert J. Sumpter Race: W Dob: Aug 1868 Age: 31 Birthplace: Missouri County: Dewey Other members of family: Mary C. Sumpter, wife Birth: Dec 1869 Age: 30 Birthplace: Missouri Guy A. Sumpter, son Birth: Apr 1890 Age: 10 Birthplace: Kansas Maudie E. Sumpter, Daughter Birth: Feb 1892 Age: 8 Birthplace: Kansas Cela G. Sumpter, Daughter Birth: Mar 1894 Age: 6 Birthplace: Kansas Lela M. Sumpter, Daughter Birth: Mar 1894 Age: 6 Birthplace: Kansas Riley E. Sumpter, Son Birth: Mar 1898 Age: 2 Birthplace: Oklahoma Loid L. Sumpter, Son Birth: Apr 1900 Age: 1/12 Birthplace: Oklahoma ----- Arley Sumpter Race: W Birth: May 1875 Age: 25 Birthplace: Kansas County: Dewey Comment on card: Living Alone ----- George W. Sumpter Race: W Birth: Sep 1863 Age: 36 Birthplace: Missouri County: Dewey Ema H. Sumpter, wife Birth: Mar 1868 Age: 32 Birthplace: Missouri James S. Sumpter, Son Birth: Aug 1882 Age: 17 Birthplace: Kansas Mamie (U or V) Sumpter, Daughter Birth: July 1885 Age: 15 Birthplace: Kansas Lulu (I or J) Sumpter, Daughter Birth: June 1887 Age: 12 Birthplace: Kansas Frankie J.Sumpter, Son Birth: June 1889 Age: 10 Birthplace: Kansas Ray W. Sumpter, Son Birth: Feb 1892 Age: 8 Birthplace: Kansas ----- Henry C. Sumpter Race: W Birth: Sept 1868 Age: 31 Birthplace: Missouri County: Cleveland Nora A. Sumpter, Wife Birth: Feb 1872 Age: 28 Birthplace: Missouri Claude Sumpter, Son Birth: Nov 1888 Age: 11 Birthplace: Kansas Rosa Sumpter, Daughter Birth: Aug 1892 Age: 7 Birthplace: Oklahoma Dolphine Sumpter, Daughter Birth: Nov 1895 Age: 4 Birthplace: Oklahoma Mabel Sumpter, Daughter Birth: Dec 1896 Age: 3 Birthplace: Indian Territory ----- James Sumpter Race: W Birth: Jan 1841 Age: 51 Birthplace: Missouri County: Dewey Elizabeth Sumpter, Wife Birth: Oct 1841 Age: 40 ----- Zana Sumpter Race: W Birth: Sept 1891 Age: 8 Birthplace: Texas County: Washita Enumerated with: Biggs, A.A. Relationship to above: Granddaughter ----- James A. Sumpter Race: W Birth: Aug 1868 Age: 31 Birthplace: Missouri County: Dewey City: Lenora Comment on card: Living Alone ----- John Sumpter Race: W Birth: Aug 1876 Age: 23 Birthplace: Kansas County: Dewey Jennie Sumpter, Wife Birth: Apr 1884 Age: 16 Birthplace: Kansas ----- John R. Sumpter Race: W Birth: Oct 27 1845 Age: 54 Birthplace: Indiana County: Kay Belle G. Sumpter, Wife Birth: July 11, 1866 Age: 33 Birthplace: Kentucky James H. Sumpter, Son Birth Dec 6, 1887 Age: 2 Birthplace: Kansas Henry L. Sumpter, Son Birth: Oct 21, 1889 Age: 7/12 Birthplace: Oklahoma Lillie H. Lyon, Mother of Wife Birth: July 5, 1833 Age: 66 Birthplace: Ohio ----- Mozella Sumpter Race: W Birth: June 1893 Age: 7 Birthplace: Texas County: Washita Enumerated with: Biggs, A. A. Relationship to above: Grand Daughter

New information found in 1900 Oklahoma Census Soundex T1066 Roll 36 Ada Sumpter Race: W Dob: Feb 1872 Age: 28 Birthplace: Tenn County: Washita Enumerated with: Biggs, A.A. Relationship to above: Daughter Albert J. Sumpter Race: W Dob: Aug 1868 Age: 31 Birthplace: Missouri County: Dewey Other members of family: Mary C. Sumpter, wife Birth: Dec 1869 Age: 30 Birthplace: Missouri Guy A. Sumpter, son Birth: Apr 1890 Age: 10 Birthplace: Kansas Maudie E. Sumpter, Daughter Birth: Feb 1892 Age: 8 Birthplace: Kansas Cela G. Sumpter, Daughter Birth: Mar 1894 Age: 6 Birthplace: Kansas Lela M. Sumpter, Daughter Birth: Mar 1894 Age: 6 Birthplace: Kansas Riley E. Sumpter, Son Birth: Mar 1898 Age: 2 Birthplace: Oklahoma Loid L. Sumpter, Son Birth: Apr 1900 Age: 1/12 Birthplace: Oklahoma ----- Arley Sumpter Race: W Birth: May 1875 Age: 25 Birthplace: Kansas County: Dewey Comment on card: Living Alone ----- George W. Sumpter Race: W Birth: Sep 1863 Age: 36 Birthplace: Missouri County: Dewey Ema H. Sumpter, wife Birth: Mar 1868 Age: 32 Birthplace: Missouri James S. Sumpter, Son Birth: Aug 1882 Age: 17 Birthplace: Kansas Mamie (U or V) Sumpter, Daughter Birth: July 1885 Age: 15 Birthplace: Kansas Lulu (I or J) Sumpter, Daughter Birth: June 1887 Age: 12 Birthplace: Kansas Frankie J.Sumpter, Son Birth: June 1889 Age: 10 Birthplace: Kansas Ray W. Sumpter, Son Birth: Feb 1892 Age: 8 Birthplace: Kansas ----- Henry C. Sumpter Race: W Birth: Sept 1868 Age: 31 Birthplace: Missouri County: Cleveland Nora A. Sumpter, Wife Birth: Feb 1872 Age: 28 Birthplace: Missouri Claude Sumpter, Son Birth: Nov 1888 Age: 11 Birthplace: Kansas Rosa Sumpter, Daughter Birth: Aug 1892 Age: 7 Birthplace: Oklahoma Dolphine Sumpter, Daughter Birth: Nov 1895 Age: 4 Birthplace: Oklahoma Mabel Sumpter, Daughter Birth: Dec 1896 Age: 3 Birthplace: Indian Territory ----- James Sumpter Race: W Birth: Jan 1841 Age: 51 Birthplace: Missouri County: Dewey Elizabeth Sumpter, Wife Birth: Oct 1841 Age: 40 ----- Zana Sumpter Race: W Birth: Sept 1891 Age: 8 Birthplace: Texas County: Washita Enumerated with: Biggs, A.A. Relationship to above: Granddaughter ----- James A. Sumpter Race: W Birth: Aug 1868 Age: 31 Birthplace: Missouri County: Dewey City: Lenora Comment on card: Living Alone ----- John Sumpter Race: W Birth: Aug 1876 Age: 23 Birthplace: Kansas County: Dewey Jennie Sumpter, Wife Birth: Apr 1884 Age: 16 Birthplace: Kansas ----- John R. Sumpter Race: W Birth: Oct 27 1845 Age: 54 Birthplace: Indiana County: Kay Belle G. Sumpter, Wife Birth: July 11, 1866 Age: 33 Birthplace: Kentucky James H. Sumpter, Son Birth Dec 6, 1887 Age: 2 Birthplace: Kansas Henry L. Sumpter, Son Birth: Oct 21, 1889 Age: 7/12 Birthplace: Oklahoma Lillie H. Lyon, Mother of Wife Birth: July 5, 1833 Age: 66 Birthplace: Ohio ----- Mozella Sumpter Race: W Birth: June 1893 Age: 7 Birthplace: Texas County: Washita Enumerated with: Biggs, A. A. Relationship to above: Grand Daughter

Seeking infoirmation about Sarah SUMPTER do George SUMPTER married John JONES 5 July 1790 in Franklin Co, VA. Her parents were George SUMPTER and Elizabeth GROSS who lived in Henry and Montgomery ciounties VA. Her brothers were Richard, Edmond, and George. What were her children's names, where were they born and where didi they live ? Also where and when did she die? Please, I need help. Thank you Jim Young, SUMPTER list moderator Marion

FIFTEENTH DISTRICT List Of Voters In The Fifteenth Election District Of The Territory Of Kansas, According To Census Returns Made By H. B. Jolly, In The Months Of January And February, 1855. Contributed Leon Rogers, January 18, 1997. Sumpter Thomas Mo I found this name while searching through the Kansas list of voters. It may be useful to someone Susan Cade Lenape2@msn.com

Hi to all who have sent Martha Sumter Suddreth and related families to me in response to my recent query. While Martha is not my direct ancestress, I know that often collateral lines offer clues that are very useful in searching for ancestors. You folks have done a wonderful job with this line. I sure wish we Sumpter folks had kept better records and not made research such a challenge! Again, many thanks for the Suddreth, Farrar and Allen information. Jane Sumpter Malone-George

This is a follow-up to the Missing Sumpter Ancestors email which I posted earlier this month. These men appear in scattered records and to date there are no known parents or sibblings for them. William Sumpter who married Mrs. Catherine Brown in South Carolina either 9 Oct 1798 (one source) or 20 April 1784 (another (source). The 1798 date was listed in St. Phillips Parish Register in South Carolina. The 1784 date was listed in St. John Lutheran Parish, Charleston. A boy, John Sempter was christened 20 Feb 1785 in St. John Lutheran Parish. This information was found in Latter Day Saints records. William Sumpter married Margaret Hoskins 1774 Albemarle Co, VA. This data was found in the IGI 10 March 1994. Christopher Sumpter and wife Elizabeth Farmer had a daughter Sally born 29 April 1762 in Goochland Co, VA. This item appeared in the Douglas Register. Did Reverend Douglas christen the child? Thanks for whatever help you can give me so I can enter the info onto my card file. Jane Malone-George jmgeorge@dubuque.net

In response to Jane Sumpter Malone-George's post concerning SUDDERTH/SUDDARTH and SUMTER/SUMPTER connections, I have the below connections to both families. I would be interested in hearing more about the article "Sudderths-The Builders" by Dr. A. A. Kent, Sr. if possible. Also any additions/corrections or comments about the below information. Elaine Randall English Descendants of Patience Sumter Generation No. 1 1. Patience2 Sumter (William1) was born in Hanover Co., VA or Albemarle Co., VA, and died Abt. 1805 in Albemarle Co., VA. She married (1) Benjamin Franklin Abt. 1734, son of Lawrence Franklin and Unknown Mathews/Mathis. She married (2) James Sudderth Aft. 1751 in Albemarle Co., VA, son of William Suddarth and Partlow Mills. Children of Patience Sumter and Benjamin Franklin are: 2 i. Anne3 Franklin, born 1735-1744 in State of Virginia; died Bef. December 1802 in Albemarle Co., VA. She married (1) Unknown Southerland Bef. 1760. She married (2) J. John Dowell Abt. 1760 in Albemarle Co., VA (Probable). 3 ii. Dorcas Sumpter Franklin, born Abt. 1737. She married Claudius M. Buster , Sr.. 4 iii. Elizabeth Franklin, born Abt. 1739; died Bef. 21 November 1807 in Adair Co., KY. She married Clifton Coffee Abt. 1771. 5 iv. Maria Mary Franklin, born Abt. 1741. Children of Patience Sumter and James Sudderth are: 6 i. John?3 Sudderth. 7 ii. Sarah Suddarth, born Abt. 1749 in Albemarle Co., VA; died Abt. 1826. She married Henry Lyon. 8 iii. Agnes Suddarth, born Abt. 1750 in Albemarle Co., VA; died Abt. 1812 in Sumner Co., TN. She married Francis Marcus Weatherred Abt. 1768 in Albemarle Co., VA. 9 iv. Mildred Suddarth, born 1750-1756 in Albemarle Co., VA; died Aft. 1820 in Sumner Co., TN. She married John Turner Bef. 1771 in State of Virginia. 10 v. William Suddarth , Sr., born 02 February 1756 in Albemarle Co., VA; died Bef. 06 August 1832 in Albemarle Co., VA. He married Martha Pleasants 01 April 1786 in Goochland Co., VA. 11 vi. James Suddarth, born Abt. 1763 in Albemarle Co., VA; died Abt. 1856. He married Jane Randolph 09 December 1784 in Albemarle Co., VA.

According to a Burke Co, NC, history published by the Burke Co Historical Society, P.O. Box 151, Morgantown, NC 28655, Abraham Suddreth b 28 Dec 1767 Albemarle Co, VA. He moved to Burke Co, NC and later to Caldwell Co, NC about 1778. On 16 Feb 1786 he married Martha (Patsy) Sumpter, daughter of John and Catherine Sumpter. Their children: William married Elizabeth Tucker; John R. married Margaret Miller; James married Jane Grider, Cynthia Smith; Emanuel died young; Sarah married Archelaus Kent; Margaret married Mark Brittain; Catherine married David Hennessee; Nancy married Patrick Hennessee; Abraham married Elmira Hennessee, Elizabeth Gilreath; Thomas married Catherine Hardin; Lemira Emily married Joel Vannoy. This information was sent to me by Mr. Hugh McBride several years ago. A Cherokee Co, NC, History says that there is a Suddreth family cemetery in the county. No indication of location. While in the Western Reserve Historical Society Library, Cleveland, OH, I found an article titled "Sudderths - The Builders" by Dr. A.A. Kent, Sr of Winter Park, FL, dated 1931. The article says Stephen Sudderth acquired large grants of land in VA. He had sons John, Thomas and William. William's son Abraham married Martha (Patsy) Sumpter. Those of you on the SUMPTER-L rootsweb who have Suddreth information, please let us know. Apparently the two families had close ties and some of each family moved to North Carolina from Virginia probably in the same time frame. Many thanks!! Jane Sumpter Malone-George

Over the years I have been gathering Sumpter/Sumter information and now have the following men born late 1700s and early 1800s for whom I cannot find parents or possible sibblings. Edward D. b Apr 1799 Va appears Jennings Co, IN 1850 and 1860 census Robert C. born 1789 appears in 1840 and 1850 Licking Co. OH census Jeptha born 1806 VA appears 1830 Tazewell Co, IL and 1850 Reynolds Co, MO Christopher born 1797 VA listed in 1870 Floyd Co, VA, census Henry born 1805 VA listed in 1850 Fayette Co, VA, census James H. born 1800-1810 listed in 1830 Campbell Co, VA census Thomas born 1800-1810 listed in 1830 Lancaster Co, PA census John born 1804 listed in 1860 Pontotoc Co. MS census Josiah born 1804 VA (listed as Sampter) listed 1850 Cocke C., TN census. Has son named Fielding If anyone has knowledge about these individuals and their parents or sibblings, please post it on the SUMPTER rootsweb or email me at jmgeorge@dubuque.net

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