I just got an advertisement in the mail for a Sumpter Family Newsletter from some organization in Midvale, Utah. The subscription rate is $12.00 per year (quarterly) or $36 for three years with the latter resulting in the subscriber receiving a free publication entitled The History of the Sumpter Family. Does anyone know anything about this? Jim Sumpter

Missouri Newspaper Death Index Surname: Sumpter Given Name(s): Mrs. B.F. Age or Date of Birth: Date of Death: 9 Dec 1898 Date Reported: Newspaper: Montgomery City Standard

Several have asked where to obtain a copy of "The Gamecock" by Robert Bass. The owner of a local used book store gave me the following two people who indicated online that they had copies of the book: Mark Post Bookstore, San Francisco Joseph Natale, Chapel Hill, NC, 919-942-9200 Both sources would charge $30.00 for the book. I am not sure if postage was included in that cost or not. As I wrote earlier, I obtained a copy through interlibrary loan several years ago to read but have no idea if the book is still available on interlibrary loan. Jane Sumpter Malone-George

Well, to all of you possibly descended from Henry Sumpter and Agnes Dillon. I have been back from my trip to Virginia for awhile, but have been in the process of moving across town. Anyway, LeeAnn and I had a nice trip to Virginia, but just one tip. Dont go on a cross country trip hoping to do genealogy when your spouse could care less. I got to do about 6 or 7 hours total and that was under extreme pressure to get it over with. A couple of things. Spent a couple of nights in Martinsville the county seat of Henry County, Virginia. They have a great new courthouse but dont seem real helpful to a genealogist. Did not find anything new there. However, I was able to walk on what was the land of Henry Sumpter on the Smith river in Henry County. It is in now in what is Bassett, Va. About 5 miles northwest of Martinsville. You can see why they may have left for Tennessee. Except for right along the Smith river the area very hilly with only small patches of land for Agriculture. From the Chesterfield County Courthouse one new tidbit on Henry's probable Father, Richard. Page 7, Deed Book #4 John Martin of Chesterfield County to George Lovell of Same, for 24/5 pounds, land Martin purchased of Robert Wooldridge and where RICHARD SUMPTER now lives, near the upper end of Chesterfield County. 100 acres. Unless money is repaid to Lovell by 5/Nov/1759. Witness William Shepard and Matthew Chitwood and John Wooton. Recorded 05/Oct/1759. Once again Richard is tied to the Martin and Wooldridge names on deeds. I am still pursuing further records and will let you know if anything new comes up. Jim Landrum

I am the Grat grandaughter of Letha Sumpter Eoff. I am looking for cousins who are willing to share information. My Grandmother Parlee Eoff Brown is Letha's third child. I am also trying to locate any grandchildren of Parlee Eoff Brown. If you would like to share information please email me DdHober@aol.com . Thank you. Dorothy Hober

Hi List, I'm brand new here. Just found this site. I'm trying my best to locate any family members of a Leona Sumpter that married a Walter Faile. They had at least one daughter, Devorah Evelyn Faile, in 1928 - she was born in Lexington County, SC. Devorah married Clifton Laverne Freeman in 1958 in Norfolk, VA. He was born in 1938 in Richland County, SC to Etta McGrady and John Freeman. If ANYONE has any information on family members of Leona Sumpter - please write me. Lynette Dooley ldooley@erols.com

I second the thanks! I just got the mail from this company. They indeed make their offering very attractive. I'm glad that we got the scam warning. -----Original Message----- From: Jane Malone-George <jmgeorge@dubuque.net> To: sumpter-l@rootsweb.com <sumpter-l@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, November 12, 1997 11:37 AM Subject: Your Surname books >Thanks to Jim and Mary Pat Young for again warning all of us about >those supposedly wonderful books about families. I have taken >courses on genealogy and the instructors always warn us about this >group in Ohio. I only know of one man who purchased a book and it >was a very general history plus listing from phone books and the >social security lists -- nothing helpful in any way for research. >Jane George >

>Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 09:03:10 -0800 (PST) > >X-From_: schilkem@juno.com Wed Nov 12 09:03:07 1997 >Received: from bl-4.rootsweb.com (rootsweb.com [204.212.38.29]) > by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA14036 > for <SUMPTER-L@bl-14.rootsweb.com>; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 09:03:05 -0800 (PST) >Received: from x9.boston.juno.com (x9.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.25]) by bl-4.rootsweb.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA29347 for <sumpter-l@rootsweb.com>; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 09:05:16 -0800 >Received: (from schilkem@juno.com) > by x9.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id MYM21439; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 12:05:08 EST >To: sumpter-l@rootsweb.com >Cc: jmgeorge@dubuque.net >Old-Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 11:50:48 -0800 >Subject: Correction to Sumpter research >Message-ID: <19971112.115049.4030.0.schilkem@juno.com> >X-Mailer: Juno 1.38 >X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-3 >From: schilkem@juno.com (Ervin E Schilke) >X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list >X-Envelope-To: SUMPTER-L > >I have a correction on the marriage of Sinthea JONES m. Charles SIMMONS. >They were married in Randolph IN not OH. > >Marion > > >

Hi Sumpter Researchers and Ervin E Schilke, Since schilkem@juno.com (Ervin E Schilke) was not on the SUMPTER-l list, his message was not sent to the list. I have subscribed his address and am forwarding his post below. Please direct responses to Ervin E Schilke's forwarded post to the SUMPTER-L list. Ervin, if you do not wish for your address to be subscribed to the SUMPTER-L list, please advise. However, if your address is not subscribed, please be forewarned that you will not be able to post messages to the SUMPTER-L list from this address. Happy Huntin' Jim Young ================= Fwd message: To: jmgeorge@dubuque.net Cc: sumpter-l@rootsweb.com Old-Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 11:30:54 -0800 Subject: Sumpter research Message-ID: <19971112.113055.4046.0.schilkem@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.38 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3-4,6-15,20-21,23,26-27,29-31 From: schilkem@juno.com (Ervin E Schilke) X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list X-Envelope-To: SUMPTER-L Hi all, In my research I really try to find primary sources whenever possible so that is why I asked about your Sumpter papers. Here is some of the information I have verified. I have copies of the following marriages of the John JONES/Sarah SUMPTER children: Elizabeth JONES m. Henry JACKSON 23 Jan, 1817 Clinton Co. OH Frankey JONES m. Samuel POFF 1 may 1817 Clinton Co. OH Sarah JONES m. Jacob BARRETT 5 Aug. 1818 Clinton Co. OH Lucy JONES m. Henry POFF 12 April 1821 Clinton Co. OH Abigail JONES m. Mathew POFF 11 May 1823 Clinton Co OH Sinthea JONES m. Charles SIMMONS 17 Nov. 1825 Randolph Co. OH Alice JONES m. Amos SUTTON 13 Mar 1828 Champaign Co. OH Anna JONES m. James Stapleton LEWIS 10 May 1833 Jackson Co. MO I also have a copy of the 1847 John JONES will in which he mentions his wife Sally and his eight daughters by their married names plus two children of his son Solomon (evidently deceased). Their names were Julian Jones REDPATH (I have her marriage record) and Jacob JONES. George and John were not mentioned. In a letter written by James Stapleton LEWIS to his brother Joel in 1855 he writes "My wife is sick at present...she is very low...she wishes to know how long her father has been dead. And she wishes to know whether her step-mother is still living." What I want to find out is whatever happened to Sarah SUMPTER the first wife of John JONES. Marion

In response to an email forwarded to the Sumpter rootsweb by Beverley Sumpter, my card file has two women listed who married Eoff men in Newton Co, Arkansas: Letha age 19 married Jonathan Eoff age 20 on 1 Aug 1880 and Rachel age 17 married William Eoff age 21 on 1 Feb 1880. These records are from Newton Co Marriages by Vera Dean. According to Harold Sumpter of Turney, MO, these women were the daughters of John D. Sumpter, Sr., and his second wife Mary A. Liperd or Lawson. John D. married M.A. Liperd on 10 Oct 1867 in Newton Co, Arkansas. John D. Sumpter, Sr., was a son of Thomas and Elizabeth Coffey Sumpter of Burke Co, NC, and Wayne Co, KY. John D. was born 11 Jan 1811 in Burke Co, NC, and died about 1888 in Newton Co, Ark. John D. and his first wife, Rebecca Mullinex lived in Putnam Co, MO. John later moved to Arkansas. Harold Sumpter of Turney, MO, has researched and written two books about this line since he descends from John and Rebecca Mullinex Sumpter. Please contact me and I shall be happy to list the names of the children of John and Mary A. Liperd or Lawson Sumpter. I would appreciate having a list of the descendants of Letha for my files. Thanks. Jane Sumpter Malone-George jmgeorge@dubuque.net

Three or four days ago there was an email giving the 18 June 1828 marriage date for William Sumpter and Elizabeth Iveson in Hanover Co, Va. I have never seen an original source for this record but I believe the date has been sealed into the Mormon records at Salt Lake City by Dr. Davison of Texas. Dr. Davison did considerable research about the Sumpter family and his findings are still very helpful to researchers. However, Dr. Davison believed that the above William Sumpter was a son of Nicklas and Katherine Mathews Sumpter of Histon, England. Later records have disproved this last fact since the William Sumpter, son of Nicklas, died in Histon and his death is recorded there. I also would very much like to know the origin of the marriage date for William and Elizabeth Iveson Sumpter - does anyone on the web also have this record but not from the Mormon records? Jane Sumpter Malone-George

Thanks to Jim and Mary Pat Young for again warning all of us about those supposedly wonderful books about families. I have taken courses on genealogy and the instructors always warn us about this group in Ohio. I only know of one man who purchased a book and it was a very general history plus listing from phone books and the social security lists -- nothing helpful in any way for research. Jane George

Just returned from a trip and found these wills and thought somebody might be able to get some information out of them. Henry Sumpter was a son of John Sumpter (brother of General Thomas Sumpter). The will was found in the "Bone Rattler" the bulletin of the Swain County Genealogical and Historical Society" Vol 4, No 4, Spring 1988. Richard Ramsey married Betty Sumpter who was a daughter of John Sumpter (brother of General Thomas Sumpter). The will was found in the "Bone Rattler" the bulletin of the Swain County Genealogical and Historical Society" Vol 4, No 4, Spring 1988. Hope somebody can use the information. Walt Pollock waltpat@krmi.net Henry Sumpters Will IN THE NAME OF GOD, AMEN. I, HENRY SUMPTER, of the County of Caldwell and State of North Caroline, being of sound and disposing mind and memory, but weak of body, and knowing the uncertainty of human life, do make and publish this my last will and testament, in the manner and form following, that is to say: 1st. I cimmend my soul to God who gave it and my body to be buried in a decent Christian-like manner, and my funeral expenses together with my just debts, however and to whomsoever owing, to be paid out of the first monies that may come into the hands of my Executors (hereinafter named) as a part and parcel of my estate. 2nd. I give and bequeath unto my beloved wife, Peggy all my property and effects of which I may die seized and possessed, during her natural life. 3rd. My will and desire is that after the death of my beloved wife, my property shall be disposed of in the following manner (to-wit). I give and bequeath to the heirs and legal representatives of my deceased sister, PATTY SUDDRETH, POLLY LOVING & BETTY RAMSEY equal shares of all my property not hereinafter disposed of. 4th. My will and desire is that my brother, THOMAS SUMPTER'S children are to have equal shares of my estate, except THOMAS SUMPTER, his son, to whom I give my negro boy, ALBERT, after the death of my beloved wife, PEGGY. 5th. My will and desire is that HENRY SUMPTER TAYLOR, son of HENRY TAYLOR, shall have an equal share in my estate. 6th. My will and desire is that my wife shall have absolutely, to be disposed of as she may think proper, all my household and kitchen furniture. 7th. My will and desire is that my negro man, SAMPSON, and child, MAY, shall be sold by my Executors (hereinafter named) to some humane master or to whomever they may choose to live with provided they can get something like a fair price, but in order that they may not be separated , or sold to those who might treat them ill. I would rather some sacrafice be made in view of their future welfare. 8th. I hereby constitute and appoint JAMES HARPER and S.P. DULA, Executors to this my last will and testament, to execute the same according to the true intent and meaning thereof, hereby revoking and declaring utterly void all other last wills and testament by heretofore made. IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereto set my hand and seal on this the 4th day of September, 1857. Henry (his mark) Sumpter (seal) Signed, sealed, published and declared by the said Henry Sumpter to be his last will and testament in our presence. J.M. CONLEY (Jurat) POLLY ADAMS (her mark) there is a suppliment dated 12 of July 1862. The WILL of HENRY SUMPTER is recorded in the Clerks Office in Lenoir, North Carolina. RICHARD RAMSEY'S WILL IN THE NAME OF GOD, AMEN, (or be it remembered) that I RICHARD RAMSEY, of the County of Wayn and State of Kentucky, being weak in body but of sound and perfect mind and memory, blessed by Almighty God for the same, do make and publish this my Last Will and testament in manner of same following, viz: First I give and bequeath to my beloved wife, BETTY RAMSEY, the whole of my estate during her lifetime and after her death I do will to my daughters POLLY and PATSY RAMSEY, the kitchen home, a sufficiency of fire wood off of the land. I also give and bequeath unto my eldest son WILLIAM RAMSEY and BETTY CRISP, the whole of the moveable property. I do also give and bequeath to my three sons, ISHAM, RANDLE and RAMSOM RAMSEY, the whole of the land to be equally divided between them, two of the latter whom I appoint Executors of this my last Will and Testament, hereby revoking all others by me made. IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand, seal this the 19th day of January One Thousand eight hundred and twenty two. Richard Ramsey (his mark) ATTEST: JAMES HURT EBENEZER FAIRCHILD REUBEN (his mark) STONE The "Will" of RICHARD RAMSEY, dated Jan. 19, 1822, is recorded in the Clerks Office in Monticello, Kentucky.

I found the following information I thought might be of interest to the Sumpter list. Hope somebody can use it. The information came from Genealogical Abstract of Revolutionary War Pension Files. by Virgil D. White, Vol. III N-2. Walt Pollock waltpat@rmi.net Sumter, Thomas or Thomas Sumpter, NC line, Lydia, R10312, sol was a son of William Sumter & was b 15 Dec 1761 or 1762 in Albermarle Co VA, Sol was a nephew of Gen'l Sumter, sol lived in Burke Co NC at enl & also srv as a sub for his father & also srv under his father Capt William Sumter, sol also srv in 1794, about 1798 or 1799 sol moved to Knox Co TN for 25 years then moved to Butler Co OH for 1 1/2 yrs then returned to Knox Co TN where he appl 6 Jul 1833, sol d 14 Jan 1845 or 15 Jan 1846 (both dates were given), sol m Lydia (--) 18 Mar 1790 in Burke Co NC & she d 26 Aug 1850 leaving children: Elizabeth Bayless, Mary Anderson, Elvira Kline & Edward Sumter who in 1852 was a res of Knox Co TN aged 41 yrs, in 1847 a John Bayless was of Knox Co TN & in 1852 an Isaac Bayless, Esq. was of Knox Co TN but no relationship to sol's daughter Elizabeth (Sumter) Bayless was stated, in 1833 a James Anderson was Judge of the Court for Knox Co TN but no relationship to sol's daughter Mary (Sumter) Anderson was stated, it was stated 3 of sol's sons had srv Gen'l Jackson at the battle of Horshoe Bend in the War of 1812, sol's & wid's children were: Jean b 18 Jan 1791, John b 29 Oct 1792, James b 17 Sep 1794, Robert b 30 Oct 1795, William b 13 Mar 1797, Betsey Ann b 16 Jan 1802, Susannah b 30 Apr 1804, Lydia b 8 Aug 1806, Mary b 2 Dec 1807 & Elvira (no birth date) Thomas, SC Line, S19115, sol was a son of Brig Gen'l Thomas Sumter who d 1 Jun 1832 leaving no widow & left as his only heir his son Col Thomas Sumter, Jr. who d in 1840 & his widow (not named) d in 1841, in 1848 surviving children were: Natalie wife of M. de Dontenoy ambassador from the Court of France to Stuttgart in Wurtemberg (this is prob Germany), Stephanie wife of M. Binda the Consul at Leghorn in Italy, Thomas of Sumter Dist SC, Pauline wife of J. Brownfield of Sumter Dist SC, Francis & Sebastian Sumter both of Sumter Dist SC, on 23 Nov 1848 the son Francis Sumter was adm'r of both his father's & his grandfather's estates & he then appl in Sumter Dist SC

Hi I shall send what data I have on Sarah Sumpter Jones to you with a copy to the Sumpter rootsweb. Perhaps there are others out there who can help with Sarah's dates. According to very informative papers I received from Curtis Sumpter of Floyd, VA, Sarah was the daughter of George and Elizabeth Gross Sumpter of Charlotte Co, VA and later of Franklin Co, VA. Sarah married John Jones 5 July 1790 in Franklin Co. You stated that you had a list of children. Does this list agree with yours? Sally, Frankey, Elizabeth, Lucy, Abigail, Sinthea, Ally, Ann, Solomon, George, John. My list comes from the LDS microfiche and Lora Weatherman's book states that John and Sarah Jones lived in Randolph Co, IN, and that she died there in 1847. One note that I do have on my card is that daughter Ann was born 4 Nov 1807 and that she married James Stapleton Lewis. I shall be happy to hear from you and would like to add your line to my records to help other researchers. Thanks. Jane Sumpter Malone-George jmgeorge@dubuque.net

Hi all, Glad to see activity here again. I have attached my line as best I know it. I do have some information on the collateral lines of Jesse, Littleton's brother and Jesse, Littleton's son which I would be glad to post if anyone is interested. I have eliminated the dates of those of us who are still alive for privacy reasons. Isom SUMPTER (?-before 4 Feb 1833 IN) & Susanna LOVING (after 1840) *Littleton L. SUMPTER (3 Jan 1819 IN) & Martha CASE (10 Aug 1825-13 Feb 1857 buried Old Hill Cem Brazil Clay IN) Nancy A (11 Oct 1849-8Nov 1867 bur Old Hill Cem) *Mary Ellen (30 Oct 1850-18 Aug 1936) & Dr LAYTON (ma before 1881) Logan LAYTON & William BUTLER *Walter Kim BUTLER (15 May 1886-2 Dec 1947 & Sarah HERZOG (29 Aug 1891 - 11 Jan 1957) Violet E. BUTLER *Wilma Roberta BUTLER & Woodson C. YOUNG (me) Suzanne YOUNG Warren H. YOUNG Harvey P. SUMPTER (ca 1823 IN) & Frankie ARNOLD Jesse A. SUMPTER (2 Feb 1827 IN - 20 Nov 1910 TX) & Refugia RAMIREZ William SUMPTER Louisa SUMPTER & H. ZAPATA & Virginia RAMIREZ I have more on children of Littleton nd Jesse, Jr., but am out of time. Will get back on with them later. Suzanne If anyone connects to this family I would be

The book "The Gamecock" was written by Robert D. Bass and published by Holt, Rinehart and Winston, New York. Several years ago, I obtained a copy through interlibrary loan. It is a decent account of General Sumter's life and does list only the following sibblings: William, Thomas, Patience and Anne. We know for sure that there was at least a brother John and a sister Martha. Most researchers seem to believe that Edmond of Charlotte Co, VA, is also a brother. William married Judith Randall (1) and had the following children: John married Ann Alexander; William (jr) married Jane ? and possibly a first wife; James married Nancy Jinkins: Thomas married Lydia Kirkpatrick; Elizabeth married Edward Owings or Owens; Amelia married ?Buckner; Fielding married Sarah ?; Judith married ? Randall and Livingston married Charlotte Temple. Tradition - according to William jr's wife Jane when she talked to Dr. Lyman Draper - says that following Judith Randall Sumpter's death, William remarried and became the father of a total of 19 children. To date, I have no record of a second marriage or who the woman was. Can anyone help? John married Catherine ? about 1762. Their children: John; Henry married Peggy Taylor; Thomas married Elizabeth Coffey; James; Catherine possibly married Hiram Geren; Betty married Richard Ramsey; William; Polly married Gabriel Loving; Martha married Abraham Sudderth. Thomas marrried Mary Cantey Jameson. They had only one surviving child: Thomas, Jr., who married Nathalie deLage about 1802. Patience married first John Franklin and had Anne, Dorcas, Elizabeth and Maria. Patience married second James Sudderth and had William, James, Agnes, Sally and Mildred. Ann married Thomas Land, Sr. Children unknown to me at this time. Edmond married Claudine (Anne) ? and had the following children: Mary Anne; William married Betsy Wheeler; Thomas married Mary Todd; Martha (Patsy); Aggy; John married Hanna Morrison; Susanna married L. Tackett; Andrew married Kezziah ?; and Nanny. Martha married William Sudderth in Albemarle Co, VA. I have no record of their children. Several people have given me this data and helped get it into the correct families. I am concerned that sons and daughters have been confused and given to the wrong parents but until we have better records, the above shall stand. Dr. Ward Sumpter of KY was my primary source. He conducted extensive research during his lifetime and shared it with me many years ago. Ward was a descendant of Edmond's son, William and Betsy Wheeler Sumpter. All clarifications and additions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Jane Sumpter Malone-George jmgeorge@dubuque.net

Hi to all the Sumpter cousins out there. Does anyone have knowledge as to where the above book "THE GAMECOCK" Might be purchased??? I would sure like to have a copy. I have seen the book referred to many times in my years at genealogy. Would like to purchase a copy as I'am sure many of you would like to also. George Sumpter and Elizabeth Gross were my 4th Great Grand Parents if any one is interested. Have found a couple cousins since joining the Sumpter Line. Met Jim and Mary Pat Young this summer in OK. and they are pretty neat people. Phyllis Sumpter Bieghler

To new and old subscriber's: A number of folks are showing descent from General Sumpter either directly or through his brothers and sisters. My question is exactly who are his brothers and sisters? Mormon records have them as: Patience, born 1729 William, born 1731 John, born 1734 Thomas, born 1734 (the General) Patience, born 1736 Edmund, born 1738 John, born 1740 Anne, born 1740 Dorcas, born 1742 Mrs. Penny Sumpter published a Sumpter family history that can be found in the Mormon records. She has them as Patience, William, Thomas, Edmund, John and Dorcas. The book, "The Gamecock" had them as William, Thomas, Patience, and Anne. Does anyone have any information that will clear this up? I would be very interested in what Jane Malone-George has in her outstanding files. Thank you evferyone for your help. Jim Sumpter

Hi Cousisn Jim and other Cousins!! Yesterday you posted some info that had a specific marriage date for William Sumter/Sumpter and wife Elizabeth Unknown (parents of Gen. Thomas, Patience, William etal)...it was 18 Jun 1728....Does you/you all have a reference for this...county, source???...I've never seen a date on this couple's marriage before.. I also don't show your Sumantha Sumpter/Sumter; b. 1820, SC in my data base...would like to know more about her...could you post a complete listing of the children of Felden (I have Fielding) Sumpter/Sumter and wife Sally Unknown?? I sure would like to get the straight... Sincerely, Elaine Randall English eng4@stc.net