At 10:53 AM 26/12/1998 PST, you wrote: >I very much agree with a gentleman from the Ross rootsweb that this >service is costly and all the subscribers should be helping our >service provider. > >Will someone please let us know where to send financial support to >the service? > >Many thanks....Jane Sumpter Malone-George ------------ As SUMPTER list moderator, I would like to encourage all subscribed members to contribute to the RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative. Details on contributing to RootsWeb are available at the following RootsWeb URL: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html The following was extracted from the above URL. The RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative is supported by its users: RootsWeb would cease to exist if not for the support of folks like you. By becoming a Member, Sponsor, or Donor, you help RootsWeb provide Web and FTP space on thousands of genealogical topics, mailing lists for thousands of groups of genealogists with shared interests, and search engines to make huge amounts of genealogical data freely available to Internet genealogists. Individual users may join the Cooperative at differing levels of support. While there are some differences in the services we provide at each level, fundamentally when you choose a level you're making a choice about what kind of genealogical resources you want to see brought onto the Internet. If you choose not to join, you're basically saying "Let someone else do it." Members, Sponsors, and Donors are all saying "Let's each contribute something towards making more genealogical resources available to everyone on the Internet." Basically, RootsWeb subscribers can contribute at the following levels: Member $12.00 Sponsor $24.00 plus Donor $100.00 plus How to Join by Mail One way to join RootsWeb is by sending a check in U.S. dollars to: RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative P.O. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798 Please make sure your name and e-mail address are on the check! Also, tell us whether you are joining as a Member, Sponsor, or Donor. Thanks! Please don't send cash, and please don't send drafts denominated in foreign currency. (American banks charge huge fees for currency conversions.) If you are outside the United States, please use a credit card so the currency adjustment is automatic and inexpensive. How to Join by Credit Card, over the Net or by Fax You can join easily from your keyboard by using our Secure Server* and your VISA or MasterCard. If you prefer not to use the Web, go ahead and fill out the form, but print it out instead and fax it to 1-805-242-3649. * "Secure Server" is accessable at the URL shown above. A Happy New Year to all, Jim Young List Moderator and RootsWeb Donor

I very much agree with a gentleman from the Ross rootsweb that this service is costly and all the subscribers should be helping our service provider. Will someone please let us know where to send financial support to the service? Many thanks....Jane Sumpter Malone-George

hello we had a similar situation with another surname-heath. this individual became belligerent and angry when i refused to send him any information on my family because the information he insisted was correct, was not! it was a very uncomfortable situation and when i refused to continue to communicate with him, he finally stopped. interestingly enough, i have not seen his email address on this name list for several months.

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Sure is nice to know this list is not dead. The postings have been few and to long in between. When I first signed onto this list it was very active but it seems to have died and just withered away. There is no time limit or any limit on the number of times we post our surnames on this list. I belong to a few other lists but this one is silent for very long periods of time. I will post my information again along with the url for my web page if any one wants to see it again. My name is Dorothy Hober and I descend from Lonnie Brown son of Parlee Eoff who was the Daughter of Leitha Sumpter Eoff. Leitha was the daughter of John D. Sumpter and maryl Liford Lawson. I live in OR and am researching AR, OK, TX, VA, GA. Hope everyone has a good day and will post more often. DdHober@aol.com http://hometown.aol.com/ddhober/index1.html

Hi Dan You asked about the ancestry of Hanna Sumpter b 7 May 1852, IN. She married Tom Bullard 17 Nov 1875, Decatur Co, IN. Hanna passed away 16 Nov 1939, St. Paul, IN. My data comes from Mrs. Lavon Rutherford notes, and marriage records Book 3, P341 of Decatur County, IN. My father and I visited with Mrs. Rutherford during the 1970s. Hanna was a daughter of James and Adeline McCord Sumpter. James b @1820 VA and died 13 Sept 1885 at St. Paul, IN. He married Adeline McCord. The family appears on the Decatur Co census for the years 1850, 1870 and the 1880 Soundex Census. My information also comes from Martha Schwartz and Lavon Rutherford. James and Adeline McCord Sumpter had the following children: William Richard 1847-1933 married Retta Watkins 1871 Missouri Anna 1849-? married Levi Lewistort 1868 Hanna 1852-1939 married Tom Bullard 1875 Elizabeth 1855-? married Levi Miller Georgann 1858-1948 married Abram Bruner 1880 James Albert (Bert) 1860-1950 Charles Smith 1863-1942 James Wessly 1868 he is not shown on the 1870 census and I wonder if he is a grandson. It is my belief that James is a son of John and Elizabeth Turman Sumpter. John was born 10 Feb 1796 VA and died 11 Aug 1856 probably after returning to VA. He married Elizabeth Turman 12 Nov 1818. She was born 1800 and died 17 May 1863 in Indiana. This information comes from Curtis Sumpter notes (of Floyd, VA), the 1840 and 1850 censuses of Indiana and from Martha Schwartz. John purchased land in Decatur Co in 1835 and 1836 and he is listed in Decatur Co, IN, probate records 1856-7. Known children of this couple are: James married Adline McCord Elizabeth 1824-? married F. Shuppert Isabel married C. Stogsdill John 1844-? Son 1820-1825 Lucy b @1819 married ? Ayers John was a son of Edmund, Sr., and Elizabeth Kingery Sumpter of Fayette, VA. Edmund b 25 Feb 1770, Charlotte Co, VA, d 10 Apr 1856. He married Elizabeth Kingery of Franklin Co,VA, 16 Mar 1795. This data comes from the Draper notes 18VV117, 1850 census of Fayette Co, VA, Franklin Co, VA marriage records and Curtis Sumpter's notes. When they married Jacob Kingery was the surety and Jacob Miller was the minister. Know children of this couple were: John 1796 married Elizabeth Turman Jacob b 1797 Martha b 1798 marriedDaniel Sowder 1823 Sarah b 1800 married George Turman 1818 Richard S. 1801-1882 married Catherine Sowder Edmund, Jr 1803-1883 married Delilah Eskew Fannie 1806-? married Elisha Burnett Draper states on 18VV115 that Edmund, Sr., served in War 1812. (I have not pursued this record but it should be in the National Archives). Edmund Sr. is a son of George, Sr. and Elizabeth Gross Sumpter of Charlotte Co, VA. Known children of this couple are: Richard b 1767-? married (1) Mary Kingery, (2) Isa Smith Sarah b @1772-? married John Jones Edmund b 1770-1856 married Elizabeth Kingery Agnes b 1775-? married Charles Greer George, Jr., b 1788-? married Catherine Prillaman Polly b @1790-? married Abraham Tice This information comes from Curtis Sumpter of Floyd, VA, descendant of this group. George, Sr. was killed in an accident in 1800 and his will is dated 31 Sept 1800. His wife Elizabeth appears on the 1806 VA tax list with George, Jr. Shortly after they were married, Richard and Mary Kingery Sumpter moved to Southern Ohio. Tom, I hope this fills in a few holes in your research. If you or anyone on the Sumpter web has corrections and additions to this information, please send it. I continue to update my card file on the Sumpter/Sumter family and want all information available. Tom, I would also like the names of Hanna and Tom's children. Thanks for all help. Jane Sumpter Malone-George jmgeorge@dubuque.net

Happy post Thanksgiving !!!! How many of us have wished that the very next message on the SUMPTER list would provide a lead on our elusive ancestor, our brick wall? How many have never posted a query, yet are still looking for that first clue? Many of our subscribers still have not posted that first message telling how they relate to the SUMPTER or surname variations: Sumter and others. There are a great number of our 'kin' in this world; however, it is highly unlikely that we will ever mention anyone in your not-too-distant ancestry unless you post a query to: SUMPTER-L@rootsweb.com Unless you tell something about your oldest ancestor and two or three of their descendant generations in your family tree, we list members are probably not going to ever mention your ancestor in any message. If you have not posted a message yet, please do so today! If you have posted a query, but not about your oldest ancestor and their descendants, please post a message about them today! If you have posted a query about your oldest ancestor, but did not give any data on their descendants, please do so today! If you have posted a query about your ancestor sometime ago and have new data or wish to repost your ancestor, please do so today! Please!!!! Create a new message to post your query. Please do not quote this message back to the SUMPTER list as it will only make your query difficult to read. To make your ancestor standout and easily identified, consider including their name, birthdate/deathdate (if known) and migration path in the subject line. Example: John SUMPTER 1725-1805 VA>TN. As of today, we have 66 SUMPTER family members. Possibly, some members have subscribed to both the SUMPTER-L and SUMPTER-D lists or subscribed a home and workplace address which may inflate the membership number. Please don't overlook the SUMPTER archives for queries posted by members who have unsubscribed from the SUMPTER list or have joined their ancestors. If refresher instruction are required on accessing the archives, please contact me. Please don't be afraid of making a mistake in posting a query. If I see you need assistance, I'll come to your rescue. CAUTION... You may wish to consider withholding personal data on living descendants. Because, at the moment, once your message has been archived on RootsWeb, neither the data within nor the message can be removed from the archives. Happy Huntin' Jim Young List Moderator and RootsWeb Donor

Can anyone tell me who of the Kilgore clan did Dorcas Sumpter marry? I have a Kilgore line and was just curious. I have some info on Kilgores but have yet to see anything on who married Dorcas SUMPTER. If anyone knows please respond. Is anyone other then Marv and I and Kestes out there??? No one is posting to the list anymore and it has been one year since I signed onto aol and this list. Is JIm and Jane around? No one is posting or eve talkin on this list and that worries me that something has happened to them. Well hoping all is well and hoping everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving. Dorothy Hober

Happy Thanksgiving from our home to yours. Hope everyone has a safe and Happy Holiday. >From the Hober family. Dorothy, Daryl Sr, Daryl Jr., Edith and Rebecca. : )

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_911229734_boundary Content-ID: <0_911229734@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII In a message dated 11/16/98 3:18:05 PM, JaandJi wrote: <<Hello.... I'm new to SUMPTER-L...and have a tricky link I'm pursuing: a female SUMPTER who may have married a male MCLENDON, btw. 1760-1780... which would have caused the naming of John SUMPTER McLendon, b. 1793, NC. John marr. Jane McLaughlin, Perry Co., AL, abt. 1820...they lived in Sumter, AL btw. 1820-1840, then moved to Leon Co., TX... Would anyone know of such a connection? If convenient, please email jaandji@aol.com, as well as post to this list. Thanks very much, Jan Roach>> --part0_911229734_boundary Content-ID: <0_911229734@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: JaandJi@aol.com Return-path: <JaandJi@aol.com> To: DdHober@aol.com Subject: Re: [SUMPTER-L] RE any SUMPTERs Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:18:05 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hello.... I'm new to SUMPTER-L...and have a tricky link I'm pursuing: a female SUMPTER who may have married a male MCLENDON, btw. 1760-1780... which would have caused the naming of John SUMPTER McLendon, b. 1793, NC. John marr. Jane McLaughlin, Perry Co., AL, abt. 1820...they lived in Sumter, AL btw. 1820-1840, then moved to Leon Co., TX... Would anyone know of such a connection? If convenient, please email jaandji@aol.com, as well as post to this list. Thanks very much, Jan Roach --part0_911229734_boundary--

Were is everyone why is it so quiet on here. Everyone who signed up for this will think we do notcare. I have nothing new to report on my line. I have not been able to get to the FHC lately. Anyone out there have any good hits or any good luck lately. I would loive to hear from everyone on this list. I know we are alive and busy but I get more from the Kilgore line then here but they make up for it by leaps and bounds. Ok Here is my line as I know it today Dorothy Hober father Lonnie Brown Grandmother Pairlee Eoff Brown GGrandmother Leitha Sumpter GGGpa John D. Sumpter Sr. Anyone have any of Leithas lines. I have some info on Leitha but we loose her after she remarries to a Mr. Williams and they move to CAlifornia. Well all is well for now here. Well looking forward to hearing from others. Marv coming your way Thrusday. DdHobre

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Today I received some information from the National Archives that I thought might be of interest to some Sumpter list subscribers. The information listed is documented via application of Tyresa Angeline Crisp for widows claim for pension of Indian Wars; 1. William Patterson Sumpter died January 18, 1891 in Habersham County, GA 2. He and Tyresa A. Crisp were married February 1, 1840 at Stecoah, Cherokee County, NC by Jacob Baker, Justice of the Peace 3. Tyresa was denied her application for pension, due to the fact that William enlisted in Millers Co June 5, 1938 and mustered out June 17, 1938. He needed to have served 30 days. 4. Tyresa was unable to read or write Also received information on Joel P. Sumter 1. In 1892 he was living in Glenburnie, Caldwell County NC 2. He had been married to Sydne Buckanan (name was difficult to read)on the 21 day of March, 1841. She died April 7, 1860 in Lenoir, NC 3. He also was denied pension, service time to short Do any of you know the connection between William Patterson and Joel P. They were both born in Burke County in 1814 I also just spent three days researching our Sumpters in Graham County, NC and then over to Morgantown in Burke County, NC. Had very good results finding land records of Capt. William Sumpter, and a few others. Morganton library has a excellant genealogy room. I had hoped to locate the father of Jessie Sumpter...but no luck..I may be wrong, but my strong hunch is that Jessie is from the second wife of Capt. William, but I have not been able to come across any documented records . Does anyone have any other ideas? Also went to Stecoah and found the old Hazy Brown Cemetery where many of our Sumpter and Crisp ancestors are buried. It was beautiful. The cemetery sits on a hill over looking a pasture filled with cows. From the cemetery you can see much of the valley below. Im sure it hasn't changed much in 200 years. I hope to hear your ideas on Jessie Sumpters father. Sharon Comer Orlando

Subject: Sumter, Part 2 Excerpt from "Statistics of the State of Georgia", by George White. Printed in 1849, Savannah, W. Thorne Williams. Part two of Sumter County: Name-The following account of Major General Thomas Sumter, is abridged from a memoir written by William Gilmore Sims, Esq.: Thomas Sumter, after whom this division of the State was named, was born in Virinia, in the year 1734. When a boy, he went as a volunteer against the French and Indians, in the "old French war." Not long after Braddock's defeat he came to South Carolina, where he was engaged in active service against the Indians. Known to be a warm friend to the principles of those who were opposed to the usurpations of Great Britain, as early as March, 1776, he was appointed by the Provisional Congress, Lieutenant Colonel of the 2d regiment of riflemen, and was engaged in watching the outbreaks of the disaffected on the frontier, and the hostile red men. After the fall of Charleston, Sumter retired to the swamps of the Santee; but he soon emerged from his hiding place, went to North Carolina to obtain recruits, and stopped at a place known as the "Gillespie Settlement." Of the Gillespie family were numerous brothers, all of whom were famous cock-fighters. They were content with the conflicts of the barn-yard, having in their possession, amongst other famous fighting birds, a blue hen of the game species, whose progeny were particularly distinguished for their martial qualities. Of one of these chickens, called Tuck, there is quite a biography. His reputation was extended far and wide, from mountain to mountain. He was never known to refuse a fight, or to lose a battle. At one time Sumter suddenly appeared at the cockpit and surprised the Gillespies at their usual occupation, and in abrupt language called upon them to leave the cockpit, and go with him, where he would teach them how to fight with men. They took him at his word. "Tuck for ever," was the cry of the Gillespies. "He is one of the Blue Hen's chickens." The sobriquet stuck to him always after; and the eagerness with which he sought his enemies on all occasions amply justified in the opinion of his followers the name of the Game Cock. In raising recruits our hero was successful, and on the 12th of July, 1780, he gave the Gillespies the amusement he had promised them, by suddenly attacking a body of Tories, and completely defeating them. After this affair Sumter had the pleasure of receiving from Governor Rutledge, a commission as a Brigadier in the service of the State, and was ordered to recover a certain portion of the country from the power of the enemy. On the 30th of July, 1780, he advanced upon the British post at Rocky Mount; but for want of artillery, he was compelled to abandon the attack. Hanging Rock next attracted the notice of Sumter. This was garrisoned by a force of 500 men; and although in the battle fought here he could not be said to have obtained a complete victory, yet it is acknowledged by the enemy, that they got the worst of the battle. About August of the same year, he surprised the British near Carey's fort. Having taken the fort; stores and troops, he commenced a retreat; but Tarlton overtook him two days after, at Fishing creek. Burdened with his baggage and his prisoners, 300 in >number, his movements were necessarily slower than those of the light armed >troops which Tarlton commanded. The camp of Sumter was surprised; his troops were dispersed, the prisoners recaptured, and Sumter again a fugitive. Again he made his way into North Carolina, and after raising a force, he took the field and occupied a post at the Fish Dam ford. Here he was attacked by Col. Wemyss; but so gallantly did Sumter defend his position, that the British fled, leaving their commander in the hands of the Americans. Col. Wemyss had rendered himself very obnoxious to the Americans by his cruelties. In addition to many offences of the same character, a memorandum of the houses and estates he was yet to destroy was found upon his person. This was shown to Sumter, but he, with the magnanimity becoming a hero, threw the paper into the fire, and would permit no injury to be inflicted upon the British officer. After this action, he crossed Broad river, and being joined by an additional force, he prepared to attempt the British post at Ninety-Six; but hearing of the approach of Tarlton, he changed his movements, and took up his position at the house of Blackstock, where he was attacked by the British; but a well directed fire from the Americans forced him to give up the assault. In this engagement 192 of the enemy were left on the field, of whom 92 were slain, and the rest wounded. The loss of the americans was almost nominal. General Sumter received a ball through the breast near the shoulder, which for a long time rendered him unfit for service. Congress acknowledged his services by a vote of thanks. In the early part of 1781, he again took the field, and made a rapid movement towards Fort Granby, and succeeded in destroying its magazines, and the very next day he surprised an escort convoying wagons of stores from Charleston to Camden, slew thirteen of the escort, and made sixty-six prisoners. Not long after this he was attacked by Major Fraser, near Camden; but that officer got the worst in the conflict, making off with the loss of twenty men. Receiving a letter from General Greene, requesting him to do all in his power towards breaking up the British communication, Sumter was already in the field, sweeping the county lying between the Broad, Saluda, and Wateree rivers. On the 10th of May, he took the British post, at Orangeburgh, with its garrison, consisting of 100 men, and all its stores. About this time Gen. Sumter, embroiled in a dispute with Col. Lee, sent his commission to Gen. Greene, whom he thought improperly partial to Lee. This was returned with many expressions of kindness and compliment on the part of Gen. Greene; and Sumter, cheerfully yielding his private grievances to his sense of patriotism, resumed his responsibilities; but in a short time, fatigue and wounds demanded that he should have a respite from toils, and accordingly he repaired to the mountains, for the purpose of recruiting his health; and when he was able to resume the field, the war was at an end. He survived long after the independence of his country was established. For many years he was a member of Congress, first as a Representative, and afterwards as a Senator. He lived to a mature old age, honoured to the last, and died on the 1st of June, 1832, at his residence, near Bradford Springs, South Carolina, in the ninety-eighth year of his age.

Hello Cousins: Below is a URL that has an image of General Thomas Sumpter/Sumter...it's not the best in the world, but thought someone might be interested. http://www.lpitr.state.sc.us/sumter.htm Also, here is some information forwarded to me by a friend....perhaps it will help someone. Before you ask, NO..I don't have any more of this information at this time, and don't have this book...but hope this helps someone... Elaine eng4@stc.net Gamecock -The life and Campaigns of Gen Thomas Sumpter by Robert D. Bass in the back of the book is a section on sources -some follows. Sumter is from "sumpter," a word which comes from Old French sommetier, which is derived from Latin sagma, a packsaddle. Sumpter designates an animal used to transport baggage, as a sumpter horse, and also a driver of such animals. In England in the thirteenth century sumpter changed from an occupation to a proper name. Family tradition says that the Sumpters came from Wales. Thomas Sumter spelled his name Sumpter or Sumter. On January 31, 1792, he signed his congressional pay voucher as Thomas Sumpter, but on March 2, 1792, and thereafter he signed it Thomas Sumter. Sources and Notes 1) Sergeant from Preddy's The primary sources of Gamecock are the letters of Thomas Sumter, Nathanael Greene, John Rutledge, Francis Marion, Henry Lee, William Henderson, Daniel Morgan, Banastre Tarleton, Lord Cornwallis and many other Am and British participants in the Rev War. The majority of these is still unpublished. The MEMOIRS of Lee and the CAMPAIGNS of Tarleton, as well as the sketches, notes, memoirs, and histories of other participants are additional primary sources. Secondary sources are extensive, the most important being the Sumter papers in the Draper collection left by Lyman C. Draper, Secretary of the State Historical Society of Wisconsin and author of KING's MOUTAIN and IT'S HEROES. Draper planned a similar book about Sumter and his men and during forty years of research collected more than ten thousand pages of notes. These are now arranged in twenty-four manuscript volunes, marked Series VV, and preserved in the archives of the Society in Madison. The sources for background are Christopher Ward, THE WAR OF THE REVOLUTION, edited by John Richard Alden, 2 vols., New York, 1952; and Sir Henry Clinton, THE AMERICAN REBELLION< edited by William B. Wilcox, New Haven, 1954. Biographical information is from the DICTIONARY OF AM BIOGRAPHY, New York, 1937; THE DICTIONARY OF NATIONAL BIOGRAPHY, London, 1921; Lorenzo Sabine, BIOGRAPHICAL SKETCHES OF THE LOYALISTS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION..., 2 vols. New York, 1864; Francis B. Heitman, HISTORICAL REGISTER AND DICTIONARY OF THE UNITED STATES ARMY...,2 vols., Washington, 1903; YEAR BOOK: City of REMINISCENCES CHIEFLY OF THE AM REV IN THE SOUTH...,Charleston, 1851; and the unpublished muster rolls of the British regiments. Maps used in tracing the campaigns of the Gamecock are Henry Mouzon, AN ACCURATE MAP OF NORTH AND SOUTH CAROLINA...,London, 1775; Robert Mills, ATLAS OF THE STATE OF SC..., Baltimore 1825; and SOUTH CAROlina STATE highWAY PRIMARY SYSTEM and maps of the counties of SC prepared and published by the SC Highway Department. The names of many towns, streams and places have been changed since the Revolution. The original name has been used in GAME-COCK: for instance, Cross Creek instead of Fayetteville and Drowning Creek instead of Lumber River. Modern spelling has been used, however; Charleston instead of Charles Town and Winnsboro instead of Winnsborough. In the main these spelling have come from the maps prepared by the SC Highway Department. Accounts of the Sumter family and Sumter's youth are taken from Drapers manuscripts, especially volume 1 VV. See also Anne King Gregorie, THOMAS SUMTER, Columbia, 1931. The story of Timberlake and Sumter among the Cherokees and in London is from Samuel Coles Williams, editor. Lieut. Henry Timberlake's Memoirs, Marietta, 1948. For the return of the Cherokees from London, see Draper, 2VV169. Sumter's appearance in Charleston is from JOURNAL OF THE COUNCIL OF SC. Sumter's second visit to the Cherokees and capture of Des Jonnes is derived from Draper. 11VV330, 11VV335, and 11VV370, and from the SC GAZETTE, March 19, March 26, April 30, and May 7, 1763. The account of Sumter's jail break is from Draper, 2VV80. Sumter's letter to Martin is in Draper, 1VV24. Henry Timberlake, from Hanover Co. VA served in the militia under Col Byrd. After escorting the Cherokee chiefs to England, Lieutenant Timberlake wrote his MEMOIRS. He died in London in 1765. Sumter was probably sergeant in Timberlake's company.

Hello to all my Sumpter cousins!!! I am looking for information on Thomas Sumpter (father of John D. Sumpter, Sr.) I am trying to find out where Thomas Sumpter was born and where he and Elizabeth Coffey were married (also I don't know when/where Elizabeth Coffey was born either.) And, finally, I am trying to find out what Sumpters were in the Revolutionary War. I also heard that Elizabeth Coffey's father was in the Revolutionary War too, but I have no proof. Thanks a lot. Any help is appreciated!! Respectfully, Eric DeKraai http://www.taconic.net/dekraai

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_908550904_boundary Content-ID: <0_908550904@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Last night I was up late and could not sleep. I came onto the internet and went into a chat room and shortly thereafter a woman comes in asking about Sumpter's. I ask her some questions and come to find out she is the Granddaughter of William Sumpter brother to my Leitha and son of John D Sumpter. I gave her and another cousin information on how to join our special group hopefully they both will soon. The two cousins here on aol are Jannsue@aol.com , she descends from John Jr. and the other one is Suzyhomakr who descends from Will Sumpter. This was such a great find and we gave her a lot of information on her ancestors from the past. She was absolutly amazed about John D Sumpter SR. She never knew as a lot of us did not know. I was able to get her some information and hopefully she will join our group so the rest of us can share our stories. Now there was a question regarding Joel Sumpter. Was he a gunslinger? She was not positive it was home so I figured I would ask about it. Thank you all you are a wonderful and knowledgeable group. DdHober --part0_908550904_boundary Content-ID: <0_908550904@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: DdHober@aol.com Return-path: <DdHober@aol.com> To: SUMPTER-L@tootsweb.com Subject: RE Will SUMPTER Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:11:05 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Last night I was up late and could not sleep. I came onto the internet and went into a chat room and shortly thereafter a woman comes in asking about Sumpter's. I ask her some questions and come to find out she is the Granddaughter of William Sumpter brother to my Leitha and son of John D Sumpter. I gave her and another cousin information on how to join our special group hopefully they both will soon. The two cousins here on aol are Jannsue@aol.com , she descends from John Jr. and the other one is Suzyhomakr who descends from Will Sumpter. This was such a great find and we gave her a lot of information on her ancestors from the past. She was absolutly amazed about John D Sumpter SR. She never knew as a lot of us did not know. I was able to get her some information and hopefully she will join our group so the rest of us can share our stories. Now there was a question regarding Joel Sumpter. Was he a gunslinger? She was not positive it was home so I figured I would ask about it. Thank you all you are a wonderful and knowledgeable group. DdHober --part0_908550904_boundary--

Do I have any cousins out there? My line: Edward D. Sumpter b 1799 VA d ? married Mariah Flury (b 1812 PA, d 1859 IN) in Wrightsville, PA, 1834. The family moved first to Medina, OH, and then were in Vernon, Jennings Co, IN, before 1840. They were listed on the Census of 1840-50-60 of Vernon, IN. Descendants: 1 Scott Taylor Sumpter b 1849 IN d 1916 IN married Mary Isabel Hurt (1854-1918) 26 Jan 1873 Boone Co, Indiana. 2 Larkin Bunnell Sumpter b 1877 In d 1962 In married Rose Iva Miller (1880-1956) 22 Feb 1899 Boone Co, IN. 3 Dee Miller Sumpter b 1899 d 1981 married Opal Blunk (1904- ) 12 Feb 1926 Martinsville, IN. 4. Jane Sumpter Malone-George married first Keith Malone 1950 and James George 1992. I will be most happy to share the information I have about this family. Thanks to this email, I have contacted descendants of Jacob Sumpter, brother of Scott Taylor Sumpter. However, I know that their sister Maria Louisa Sumpter married William Starr 18 Nov 1862 in Warren Co, OH. Do we have any cousins on line who descend from either Jacob or Maria? Looking forward to hearing from you...... Jane Sumpter Malone-George jmgeorge@dubuque.net

Hello Cousins: Thought I'd try to respond to our list owner with my direct line from my SUMPTER/SUMTER ancestors...do I have some cousins out there that don't already know me? If so, I look forward to hearing from you. Elaine Randall English eng4@stc.net Direct Descendants of William Sumter 1 William Sumter d: Bef. November 1752 in Louisa Co., VA .. +Elizabeth Unknown b: Abt. 1695 in ENG d: Abt. 1806 in Albemarle or Orange Co., VA ......... 2 Patience Sumter b: in Hanover Co., VA or Albemarle Co., VA d: Abt. 1805 in Albemarle Co., VA ......... *2nd Husband of Patience Sumter: ............. +James Sudderth b: Abt. 1720 in Stafford Co., VA d: 01 September, 1800 in Albemarle Co., VA m: Aft. 1751 in Albemarle Co., VA .................... 3 William Suddarth, Sr. b: 02 February, 1756 in Albemarle Co., VA d: Bef. 06 August, 1832 in Albemarle Co., VA ........................ +Martha Pleasants b: 26 April, 1765 in Goochland Co., VA d: Abt. 1848 in State of Virginia m: 01 April, 1786 in Goochland Co., VA ............................... 4 Elizabeth Farrah Suddarth b: Abt. 1800 d: Bet. 1861 - 1865 in Washington Co., VA ................................... +Matthias or Matthew Dettor b: 16 August, 1799 in Albemarle Co., VA d: Bef. 25 January, 1840 in Albemarle Co., VA m: 09 October, 1821 in Albemarle Co., VA ........................................... 5 Henry Kosciusko Dettor b: July 1831 in Albemarle Co., VA d: 29 May, 1908 in Panola Co., MS ............................................... +Frances Jane Morris b: Abt. 1835 in Staunton, Augusta Co., VA m: Abt. 1859 in State of Virginia ...................................................... 6 Mary Elizabeth Dettor b: 02 January, 1860 in Washington Co., VA d: 25 February, 1937 in Batesville, Panola Co., MS .......................................................... +Albert Benjamin Bell b: February 1866 in Lafayette Co., MS d: Aft. October 1928 m: 27 January, 1886 in Lafayette Co., MS ................................................................. 7 Lucy Cornelia Bell b: 31 July, 1889 in Lafayette Co., MS d: 22 January, 1967 in Whitfield, Rankin Co., MS ..................................................................... +Gabriel Moore b: 02 January, 1861 in Claiborne Co., MS d: 24 October, 1931 in Batesville, Panola Co., MS m: 21 March, 1920 in Batesville, Panola Co., MS ...................................................................... ...... 8 Ruby Lucille Moore b: 13 July, 1923 in Batesville, Panola Co., MS d: 18 April, 1978 in Vicksburg, Warren Co., MS ...................................................................... .......... +Charles Wayne Randall b: 14 October, 1925 in Amite Co., MS d: 25 June, 1987 in Whitfield, Rankin, MS m: 21 December, 1947 in Batesville, Panola Co., MS ...................................................................... .................. 9 Iris Elaine Randall b: 16 October, 1948 in Oxford, Lafayette Co., MS ........................................... *2nd Wife of Henry Kosciusko Dettor:

Good morning family, A big welcome to our new SUMPTER family members who have recently joined us! We are very glad to have you with us and hope you'll stay and remain a part of our online family. As soon as you're comfortable with us and the list, please send in your ancestor's lines so we can all see how we're related to you. We all share the same goals of wanting to find our families. Sometimes do you get so tired and frustrated from years and years of searching for your ancestor. Have you spent the last 1, 5, 10 or 20 years looking for your ancestor and are no closer now than when you started the search? We've sent the same query with the same questions to several historical societies and continually get the same negative answers. We've looked in census, probate, cemetery, military, Bible and church records to no avail. An additional source we have is each other. How many of us have small libraries at home that might have the answers one of the SUMPTER family needs? Have you checked yours at home for anything that might help the family? We need to continue posting those hidden records. Please, don't stop. That one little record, that one little paragraph, that one little scrap of information you shoved in a box under the stack of books, that certificate you received that wasn't yours after all, all those census extractions and cemeteries you read -- we need to dig all that material out and put it on the list. We came together to get answers and break down our brick walls. But, as the saying goes, "When you give, you receive." It's a principle that has never failed. Helping someone work out their lines might just uncover the fact that you're both cousins! Working together and sharing brings each of us a step closer to the big link we have waited for. Each of us on this list could be that lost link. Posting everything we know about our families is the only way our new members will know who we're looking for. So, what do you say family? Let's all get busy and start posting and talking again? After all, isn't finding our lines what brought us all together in the first place and gave us all this reason for sharing, for caring? Thanks everyone for making this such a great list! Without you, it wouldn't be. Warm regards, Jim Young List Moderator and RootsWeb Donor