thanks jeremy, for the info--I will check out the hester sumpter--you really got my interest. I had just posted saying that as far as I knew my hester was not indian. But, I am willing to be wrong. judy grimes

hello, my name is judy grimes and I have been posting the obits on the sumpters on the sumpter -l roots web. You asked about Albert L. Sumter . Albert had four children, charles, c., pete, and lella. ALL of these people spelled their last name with out the "p", however, the mother of these four children spelled her maiden name as HESTER SUMPTER, with the "p" To answer your question about the Pawhuska Sumpter/Sumpter familys, they have no link to any native american tribes except through possible marriages in the 20th century. The Osage Indians that live in Pawhuska, have that city as their reservation-it is Osage County. In the days before the land was given to the Osage it was populated by other plains peoples. And Okla was a refuge for other tribes until the US government moved them out forceably. I am sure there was some intermarrying. However, we have no documents to say it was the sumpter clans. The Indain tribes have lists of headrights and who is entitled to get payments from the government on their shares of oil lands. A non indian who marries an indian does not receive headrights but the children do. Headrights can also be sold, I understand, I may be wrong on that. But, as far as I know our familys-do not have native american lineage in the Sumpter/Sumter line. My husband had an aunt, a grimes who married a native american, but the lineage was not sumpter. Also, the grandfather who worked for years on the Indian school in Pawhuska and got their lunch program going-was a gullett married to a sumpter woman. The people of native american ancestry that live in that area are mostly of the Osage tribe and have income from the oil lands. The non Indian people mostly in the early part of the 1900's worked FOR the Indians. It is lovely spot of the nation and the peoples have mingled and lived together all prospering.

annie is buried next to her son, Fred Sumpter. Not Fred Gullett as typed. My mistake. sorry guys. JUDY

Lynn I have a lot of information on the descendants of Anne Sumpter siblings, I have nothing on her. I can send you the information. I have it in a report that is about 300 pages long, I just sent someone else the first 50 pages. Would you like it sent to you this way? If so how, in the body of email, attached? I would like Anne Sumpter descendants. Later Larry Wm Sumpter Moberly, Randolph Co., MO sumpter@missvalley.com Need up-dates & corrections. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lynn R.McR. Hawkins <lhawkins@3wave.com> To: <SUMPTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 11:35 PM Subject: [SUMPTER] Anne Sumpter/Sumter > Hi, > > My ancestor was Anne Sumpter/Sumter who was the sister of Gen. Thomas S. > > Anne married Thomas Land. They later settled in Wilkes Co., NC. > > Would like any information related to Anne and her parents and siblings. > > Thank you, > > Lynn R. McR. Hawkins, FSA Scot. > Northeast Tennessee > > > ==== SUMPTER Mailing List ==== > Have a question, recommendation or comment about RootsWeb or this list, please direct same to the list moderator: Jim Young <myoung@icok.net> > Issues of general membership interest should be directed to the list: SUMPTER-L@rootsweb.com > ======================================================= > > >

Lynn, I don't have Ann Sumpter info but my people were from MO to OK. I',m the one who has been sending the Obits to Sumpter/L. Do you know if spellinging of Sumpter (with a P) and Sumter, without a P, are same family or different lines, as I have people who are Sumpter who marry Sumter? Thanks, Judy

----- Original Message ----- From: <JPiccafe@aol.com> To: <SUMPTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [SUMPTER] george washington sumpter? > Though I might as well jump in here. Judy, I have a bunch of stuff on this > family even thogh it is not my direct line. Do you have a copy of one of > George Washington Sumpter's son's notes on this family. (Sorry I can't think > of a name right now.) Anyway send me your e-mail address and I will send you > several attachments that could help or maybe confuse you even more. > Jim Landrum > Decendant of > Henry > John > Henry > Emanuel > Verna > My e-mail address is Jpiccafe@aol.com. I think Jane and Jim will vouch for > my research. > > > ==== SUMPTER Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to Larry Stephens' Regional lists, covering all parts of the USA, go to http://php.indiana.edu/~stephenl/genealog.htm > ======================================================= Jim I hope I'm not to late. We have connected before. I would like those attachments also. Later Larry Wm Sumpter Moberly, Randolph Co., MO sumpter@missvalley.com Need up-dates & corrections.

Jim Landrum I don't think your credibility is in question here! :-) Many of us set on the side lines waiting for crumbs of information to be dropped thus satisfying our appetites for information that relates directly towards us. We at the same time appreciate the efforts of those that share their knowledge & wealth of info with us! Thank You! Thank You! one & all! :-) Respectfully Marv Caldwell

Judy: My George Washington Sumpter was born March 2, 1862, the tenth child of William Patterson Sumpter & Tyrissa Angeline Crisp Sumpter. Born in Burke Co., NC. I have nothing further on him...he is the youngest child in the family and a brother of John Wilburn Sumpter who I am actively researching. Bev Sumpter

Jim, This computer idiot didn't mean to send that file over the Sumpter pages. I apologize for the inconvenience it probably caused you. Jim Landrum

Though I might as well jump in here. Judy, I have a bunch of stuff on this family even thogh it is not my direct line. Do you have a copy of one of George Washington Sumpter's son's notes on this family. (Sorry I can't think of a name right now.) Anyway send me your e-mail address and I will send you several attachments that could help or maybe confuse you even more. Jim Landrum Decendant of Henry John Henry Emanuel Verna My e-mail address is Jpiccafe@aol.com. I think Jane and Jim will vouch for my research.

At 03:48 AM 01/13/2000 -0500, MEGBR549@aol.com wrote: >Notice the father of Erbin Sumpter is george washington sumpter and also the >entry of Erbins grandsons wife as being daughter of george washington >sumpter--are there two george washingtons ??do you know dates or documentary >evidence. Pollys wife could not logically be his great grandfathers sister.? >Help me out--I am getting confused. Please. thanks judy There are several with the name George W. SUMPTER ... I have four (4) in my database. George W. SUMPTER, b. 1807; m. Elizabeth Ann ATKINS; parents, Richard SUMPTER & Mary KINGREY. George W. SUMPTER, b. 1883; m. Evaline CRABTREE; parents, Joseph SUMPTER & Rebecca WOOD OWL. George W. SUMPTER, b. 1874; m. Frona Belle DANIELS; parents, George W. SUMPTER & Evaline CRABTREE. George W. SUMPTER, b. 1887; p, Robert M. SUMPTER & Elizabeth BRADSHAW. There are several with the name George Washington SUMPTER/SUMTER ... I have five (5) in my database. George Washington SUMPTER, b. 1777; m. (1) Susanna MAYSE, (2) Nancy POWERS; p. Henry SUMPTER & Agnes DILLION. George Washington SUMPTER Jr, b. 1824; m. Anna (unknown); p, George Washington SUMPTER & Nancy POWERS. George Washington SUMPTER, b. 1847; m. Eliza Catherine CAMDEN; p. Henry SUMPTER & Nancy BILYEU. George Washington SUMPTER Jr, b. 1883; m. Lydia Jane HAWTHORNE; p; George Washington SUMPTER & Eliza Catherine CAMDEN. George Washington SUMTER, b. unknown; m. Georgann DUNCAN; p. unknown. Please feel free to comment on any errors and make any additions. Jim Young

Bev. I only know what Jim Young sent me that a george washington sumpter was father of a daughter, Susan Elizabeth Sumter and Georgann Duncan in Okla. And, a George washington sumpter was father of my Erbin Sumpter married to Eliza Hargis in MO. (the daughter of a george washington sumpter marries the g g grandson of a george washington sumpter.) this is what is confusing me. I am in the area of getting new names of new generations and I do not have any documentation and trying to figgure out if the facts are true. If you have a census or anything--to help me please just let me know what year or where and I will look it up. If there is anything I can do to help you--please let me know. I have pretty good files from about 1890's to present--but am shy on the 0lder stuff. thanks JUDY

At 03:31 AM 01/13/2000 -0500, you wrote: >line shows her died before she was born. ? Do you have documentary info on >birth? thanks judy Thanks... Must have put someone else's death date for her. Delete death. No documentation. Jim

George Washington Sumpter Jr. was my gggg grandfather, the father of my ggg grandfather, William Franklin 'Frank' Sumpter who was the father of my gg frandfather Samuel Sumpter. According to my notes eorge Washington SUMPTER Jr. was born in 1824 in Franklin or Vigo Co., IN. He was married to Anna about 1842. George Washinton Sumpter was born about 1770 in Virginia. Byron Nelson ----- Original Message ----- From: <MEGBR549@aol.com> To: <SUMPTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 2:48 AM Subject: [SUMPTER] george washington sumpter? > Notice the father of Erbin Sumpter is george washington sumpter and also the > entry of Erbins grandsons wife as being daughter of george washington > sumpter--are there two george washingtons ??do you know dates or documentary > evidence. Pollys wife could not logically be his great grandfathers sister.? > Help me out--I am getting confused. Please. thanks judy > > > ==== SUMPTER Mailing List ==== > REMINDER ! ! ! Messages exceeding 20,000 bytes (20KB) will not be processed; in otherwords, it will not be sent to the list membership. > ======================================================= > >

Hate to add to the confusion, but there is another George Washington Sumpter, youngest son of William Patterson Sumpter b. Burke Co., NC. GW was born approx. 1862 Don't have a lot of information on him, but will check and see what I do have in files. Take care... Bev Sumpter

Hi, My ancestor was Anne Sumpter/Sumter who was the sister of Gen. Thomas S. Anne married Thomas Land. They later settled in Wilkes Co., NC. Would like any information related to Anne and her parents and siblings. Thank you, Lynn R. McR. Hawkins, FSA Scot. Northeast Tennessee

THIS OBIT is from a scrapbook of Belle Forrest Sumpter Gullett and this family is related to that family. LELA E. OVERLEY- 1986 Funeral services for former Pawhuskan, Lela Elizabeth Overley, 93 of Tuttle, Okla. will be held Thursday, May 125 at one pm at the Seviers Memorial Chapel of Tuttle, Okla. Mrs. Overly died May 12, 1986 in the Grady Memorial Hospital of Chickasha following an extended illness. She was born December 21, 1892, the daughter of ALBERT L. SUMTER AND SENITH HESTER SUMPTER SUMTER. She married John W. Overley on March 30, 1912. She had been a resident of Grady County for many years. She was a housewife and a member of the Free Will Baptist Church. She is survived by two daughters: Mrs . Elva Grimes of Newcastle and Biulle Welchell of Tuttle, Okla. Five granddaughters and 19 great and great great grands. She is also survived by many nieces and nephews of Pawhuska. She was preceded in death by her husband, John W. Overley on October 23, 1971 and a son, George Wesley Overley on June 3, 1980. The Rev. Louis Gibbs of Bethany, assisted by the Rev. Ortho. Rogers , of Tuttle will officiant. Interment will be in the Fairview Cemetery in Tuttle, under the direction of the Sevier Funeral Home.

SERVICES FOR GULLETT CHILD TO BE TODAY Funeral services for Betty Ann Gullett, 20 month old daughter of mr. and mrs. james gullett former pawhuskaians, will be held this afternoon at 2 pm. The child died in Parkland Hospital in Dallas, Texas at 11:30 friday morning following an operation. She had been ill for the past two weeks. Her parents, James and Pat Gullett, moved to Odessa, TX. where they now live. She is also survived by a sister, Mary Lou Gullett and her grandparents: Mr. and Mrs. Dan HITE, 712 East 7 th street, Pawhuska, Okla. and Mr. and Mrs. James Gullett (jim)Sr. of Wynona, Okla. (Belle Forrest Sumpter Gulletts' grand child) Rev. L.M. Griffin of Wynona Baptist Church will Officiate at the service.

RITES FOR ANNA SUMPTER ARE SCHEDULED HERE 1954Funeral services for 2:30 o'clock are scheduled at the Johnson Funeral Home Chapel for Mrs. Anna (annie) Pearl Sumpter, 79, a resident of Pawhuska since 1920. She died at the Hospital on Saturday night. Mrs. Sumpter, a member of the Assembly of God Church, was born on August 23,1875 in Kansas. She was married to John Elias Sumpter in Oklahoma Territory, Okla City, Okla. on June 7, 1894 and the couple moved to Pawhuska in 1920. Mr. John Elias Sumpter preceded his wife in death in January of 1941. One son, Fred Sumpter, died at Bartlesville in May of this year in a h ouse fire. Survivors include: Two sons: Elias E. "Polly" Sumpter of Konowa, Okla., and Louis Sumpter of Bartlesville, Okla.: three daughters: Mrs. Madaline Mason of Okla. City,Okla.,Mrs. Earnestine Leadford of Pawhuska, Okla., and Mrs. James( BELLE) Gullett of Wynona. Two brothers: Moses Criss of Stockton, California and Ira Criss of Stockton, California. Sisters: Mrs. Grace Borzark of Oakley, Illinois.,and Mrs Iva Elithorp of Lindsay: 35 granchild. Burial will be in cemetery at the side of her son, Fred Gullett, with the Johnson Funeral Home in charge of arrangements.

mrs. Naomi Sumpter dies: rites Saturday 1962 Mrs.Charles (Naomi)Sumpter, 67, 1214 E. 14th Street, died at the Pawhuska city Hospital Thursday following a lengthy illness. Mrs. Sumpter, was born at Keukuk, Indian Territory, Okla. on December 20, 1894 and was the daughter of Robert and Emma Avery. She was married to Charles Sumpter at Blanchard, Okla. on Jan 1, 1914. The family moved to Pawhuska in 1919. Mrs. Sumpter was a member of the First Baptist Church. Survivors include her husband: charles Sumpter of the home: and six sons: Luther Sumpter and Deck Sumpter of Pawhuska, Okla.Roy Sumpter of Wichita, Kansas, James of Ralston, Okla. Paul Sumpterof Santa Maria , California:and Dee Sumpter ofAvalon, California. Also, six daughters: Tommie Carson of Amarillo, Texas, Johnnie Tancey,Bartlesville, Okla.,Winona Cole of Houston, Tx.,Anita Smith of Tulsa, Okla.,Betty Wood of Arkansas City, Kansas, Jeannie Christie of Wichita Falls, TX. Also three sisters: Mrs. Jessie Dixon, of Okla. City, Okla.,Mrs. Ollie Harris, Seattle, Washington, Mrs. Mina Harris, Seattle, Washington. There are 25 grandchildren and seven great-grandchildren. Funeral services will be conducted at the Johnson Funeral home at 4 pm Saturday with the Rev. W. Dean Rainwater in charge. Burial will be in the Pawhuska City Cemetery, Pawhuska, Okla, Osage County.