Want to search the LDS website for publications and films which they hold on particular surname, location or author. There may be nothing; or, you may be pleasantly surprised. Here's how to do it: Surname Search, Author Search, Place Search, Call Number Search, Film/Fiche Search: Go to the LDS site at: http://www.familysearch.org/ Click on "Custom Search" (top right of home page). Click on "Family History Library Catalog". Click on "All Searches". Click on either "Surname Search", "Author Search", "Place Search", "Call Number Search", "Film/Fiche Search". LDS film and fiche can be rented through your local LDS Family History Center (FHC). Happy Huntin' Jim Young

theres alot of interest in that sumpter article--I would like to see it too. judy hugg grimes.

Now that we are into sharing family pictures and information, I do have a family area set up for the SUMPTER family surname on Myfamily.com. If anyone wishes to visit the site please email me and I will go in and add your name to the list. For those of you who may not know what this site can do for us I will give you a short summary. Place old photos on there for all to see. Place your family tree on the site, private site were only those who are registered may see what is in there, there is a section to share news about the family and other areas to share other info as well. Also you can email out to the entire group or to just one person in the group. I would be more then happy to sign anyone onto the site who wishes to see it. Take care all DdHober <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/d2hober/recipes.htm">Dees Recipes & Recipe Exchange</A> <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/ddhober/home.htm">Home</A> <A HREF="http://www.uftree.com/UFT/WebPages/DoubleD/DOUBLED/nindex.htm#BROWN"> Brown Family: Index</A>

Hello Etta, I have a picture of john sumpter and will trade you if you can send me the pict of etta. They may not be exactly kin--but is fun to compare the sumpter familys. They do tend to look alike. And, the indian legend is in our family too. Just no proof. judy hugg grimes

My husbands grandma was ETTA Ann SUMPTER. She was born in Oct. 29, 1872. She was born in Lenoir, NC> She passed away Jul 27, 1950, Radford, VA She married a James Henry Estes March 12, 1892 Her parents I believe were John SUMPTER and Elizabeth Davis. I had heard that ETTA was a Cherokee Indian. I have photo and she does look Indian. Any help? Kathleen Estes

Why not archive it at a Genealogical Society. They love that kind of information especially in the areas they came from. It will be a great deal of info for them and they do enjoy that kind of information in their places of business. Even if it was just a book or a family tree on paper they keep them in there for others to look at. Take care DdHober <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/d2hober/recipes.htm">Dees Recipes & Recipe Exchange</A> <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/ddhober/home.htm">Home</A> <A HREF="http://www.uftree.com/UFT/WebPages/DoubleD/DOUBLED/nindex.htm#BROWN"> Brown Family: Index</A>

A RootsWeb "Huguenot Discussion List" was established in 1998. Below, I have extracted some information from the archived messages listing additional Huguenot publications and how to research Huguenot publications via LDS records and film. Andrea Vogel discusses how to access the LDS website for publications and films which they hold. These film can be rented through a local LDS Family History Center (FHC). The "Archive of Messages for Huguenot Mailing List" can be accessed by going to the following website: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl Enter: huguenot Happy Huntin' Jim Young - --------------------------- Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:30:59 -0700 From: "Andrea Vogel" <andreav@island.net> To: Huguenot-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Huguenot] Hug. Soc. Publications (UK) ---------snip---------------- Some of the Hug. Soc. publications are held by the LDS Church at Salt Lake and some of these have been filmed so that they can be ordered and viewed at FHC's worldwide. For example, the Index to the account of the French Church in the Lady Chapel of St. Patrick's Cathedral, Dublin, 1666-1816 has been filmed (LDS film # 992663, British film section). You can search the LDS website for other publications/films they hold. However, in my experience, it is not always easy to find what you want. For example, if you want to have a list of all their holdings about Huguenots, this is not possible because they do not have a Subject Search option. You can go through Place Search, specifically Dublin in your case, but I just tried this and was unsuccessful at finding out which sub-heading Huguenots were listed under. (If you do a Place Search for England, they are listed under England, Minorities.There wasn't a Dublin, Minorities subheading but you might try Ireland, Minorities.) You can also search by call numbers if you know them. All Hug. Soc. publications seem to have the call number 942.1/L1 B4. Books about Ireland generally (not specifically Huguenots) have the call numbers 941.5 K2kn. Yet another way to search is through Author Search. I have found this to be the most successful. Once you know one author of a Hug. Soc. publication, for example, you can access them all because they are cross-referenced. For example, try S.J. Knox who is the author of Ireland's Debt to the Huguenots. This should get you into other listings on Huguenots in Ireland. Here is an outline of how to access all this on-line. Go to the LDS site at www.familysearch.org. Click on Custom Search (top right of home page) > click on Family History Library Catalog > click on All Searches > then click on either Author Search, Place Search or Call Number Search. Good luck. Sorry for the length of this message. Regards, Andrea (western Canada) ----------------- Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:42:31 -0700 From: "Andrea Vogel" <andreav@island.net> To: Huguenot-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Huguenot] Surname Search Bon jour, tout le monde -- further to my previous explanations regarding accessing Huguenot information on the LDS site, there is also a way to see if there is any material there on the particular surname(s) that you are researching. There may be nothing but it's worth a try to find out. You may be pleasantly surprised. Here's how to do it -- go to the website at www.familysearch.org. Click on Custom Search (top right). Click on Family History Library Catalog. Click on Surname Search. Type in your surname and voila!! Hopefully something nice will pop up (a publication, a film, a website, etc). By the way, this does not have to be a surname which is in an actual title of a book -- it can be a peripheral surname which merely appears in a book. So it seems to be a pretty comprehensive search. Bon chance! Regards, Andrea (still in western Canada) ---------------- "The Master Index to The Huguenot & Index to the Vestry Book of King William Parish, VA 1707-1750". --------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 21:48:14 EST From: <WilsonD212@aol.com> To: Huguenot-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <63aa81b6.365b6fee@aol.com> Subject: [Huguenot-L] Huguenots in Ireland and Great Britain On a library visit last week, I found a book titled "Irish Pedigrees; or The Origin and Stem of the Irish Nation," by John O'Hart. I didn't write down the year of its original publication, but this series has been republished by the Genealogical Publishing Co. In the 5th edition, vol. II (pp. 478-497), there is a table of the names of Huguenot families naturalized in Great Britain and Ireland between 1681 and 1712. The name "DeCamp" is listed on page 484. I was unable to locate any place in the book that identified which records were consulted for this table, or where they might be found. From the discussion, I'm asuming that these might be from oaths taken before the Lord Chancellor in Ireland, or the Court of Queen's Bench, the Court of Common Pleas, or the the Court of Exchequer in Great Britain. These lists seem to have been referred to as "Lists of Naturalized Foreign Protestants." If any one knows of where these original sources might be consulted, I would appreciate it if you would let me know. Thanks. Wilson DeCamp Vienna, VA ------------------ Huguenot Society of London Publication "French Protestant Refugees Relieved Through the Theadneedle Street Church of London, 1681-1687, ed A.P. Hand & Irene Scouloudi. The records of the Threadneedle Street Church may be available on LDS film via the local FHC. -----------------------

Following are publications on Huguenots which I've recorded during my search for SUMPTER ancestors. However, I've not personally not review any of them. Anyone knowing of other related publications, please post their title and author. A Brief History of the Huguenots and Three Family Trees by Dr. J. G. Chastain. Huguenot Immigration to Virginia by Brock. The Huguenot by Huguenot Society Founders of Manakin. Turff and Twigg by Priscilla Harriss Cabell. Huguenot Refugees in the Setting of Colonial America by Huguenot Society of America, 1987. Huguenot Emigration to America by Charles W. Baird. Happy Huntin' Jim Young

I think it is an excellent suggestion to archive SUMPTER data at public libraries in Virginia, Tennessee, Kentucky, North Carolina, Missouri, Indiana and other possible state libraries. Happy Huntin, Jim Young

since my husbands gran, Belle sumpter said that the family was as she thought, "hugenots"--we have looked for that connection. My grandson is asking, "Just what is a Huguenot" anyway? Anyone, got a simple answer for the young man? age 11, Ryan Barden. Thanks, judy

I have checked with a couple of libraries in California and they do not want genealogical works--in notebooks and pictures and documents. They call it a "archival nightmare" But, If a library is open to some kind of display of the work or making it available--we could all contribute to it. judy grimes

This site doe have a lot of information that I did not know Larry Wm Sumpter Moberly, Randolph Co., MO sumpter@missvalley.com Need up-dates & corrections. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jackie & Zane Smith <jaws64@eaglecom.net> To: <MOMACON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 10:15 PM Subject: [MOMACON] Census Day article > I was surfing tonight, and found this article on "Census Day." Thought it was rather interesting, & others might also. > http://www.genealogybulletin.com/HTML/current.html > Jackie Wilson Smith > > >

Hello, I was wondering if someone on the list could identify the John D. Sumpter in the following obituary for me. I'm sorry I don't know what paper it came from or anything else about the people mentioned. Michele Sumpter-White> E. D. Sumpter SEYMOUR - Funeral services for Effie Dean Sumpter, 78, a resident of Seymour, will be held Tues- day, Sept. 13 at 10:30 a.m., at the Randolph Funeral Home in Seymour. The Rev. Bob Spurgeon will officiate. Burial will be in the Southlawn Cemetary. A memorial has been estab- lished to the Diabetes Assoca- tion and may be left at the funeral home. Effie Sumpter died at her home Saturday, Sept. 10, 1983. She was born June 19, 1905 in Indian Territory, which is now Oklahoma and was the daughter of John David and Emma Hillman Dean. She was married to John D. Sumpter in Oklahoma in 1929 and he preceded he in death. She was a teacher in the Seymour-Sewal school sys- tem for many years. The family moved to the area in 1957. She retired from teach- ing in 1972. Besides her husband, she was preceded in death be her parents, seven brothers, one granddaughter and one grandson. She is survived by one daughter, Emma Sering, Peoria, Ill, and three grand- children.

Hello Jane, Thanks for taking the time to answer my question about Jacob F. Sumpter That's pretty good information you've given me today! I hadn't checked the 1910 Calhoun Co Census yet..NOR the 1900 of Roane, so a BIG THANKS for those leads! I wonder if the Family History Center has a copy of those? I TRULY appreciate the GREAT leads Jane, Thank you VERY much!! Floa Swisher ---Original Message----- From: jmgeorge@dubuque.net <jmgeorge@dubuque.net> To: SUMPTER-L@rootsweb.com <SUMPTER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 12:47 PM Subject: [SUMPTER] Jacob F. Sumpter >Hi Floa Swisher > >Re: your query about Jacob F. Sumpter who married Sarah Parsons in Calhoun >Co, WV, 2 Oct, 1909. I have two men in my card file who are probably your >Jacob F. Sumpter. >In the 1880 Census of Roane Co,WVA, a Floyd Sumpter born 1853 is listed with >wife Ellen. Roane Co death records give Ellen's death as 10 Nov. 1883. >The 1900 Census of Roane Co, WVA, a J.F. Sumpter born Feb 1855 is listed with >Rachel (wife ?) and Edward Tate b 1879, Stella Sumpter b 1886, Ronnie Sumpter >b 1888 and Joseph Sumpter b 1890. Edward is probably a stepson. >The 1910 Census of Calhoun Co, WVA, lists Jacob Sumpter with wife Sarah >and 6 Parson stepchildren. > >I cannot give you the parents of Jacob. Perhaps there is someone on the >Sumpter rootsweb who can help. > >Jane Sumpter Malone-George > > > > >==== SUMPTER Mailing List ==== >The Searchable Surname Archives for Rootsweb lists can be found at: >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >------------------------------------------- >Find easy instructions for using RootsWeb's Search Engine for the Archives at: >http://www.shelby.net/shelby/jr/robertsn/rwsearch.htm >======================================================= > >

After doing some SUMPTER family research and sending obits to the sumpter-l roots web. I received two communications-both telling me that they thought my granny was; ELIZA A.HARGIS married to Urban (ERBIN) Sumpter on 18 March 1819. They gave the birthday of Erbin Sumpter as: born 1819 in Franklin Co. IN. I know that she had a child in Carthage, MO in 10 May 1865. His name was John Elias Sumpter. He moved to Okla and died there. He had two wives. One was from a family called "DENNIS" and Annie Pearl CRISS Sumpter. So, the mother of John E. Sumpter is my first Hargis ancestor. It is a maiden line. I have her married in 1839 and giving birth in 1865 : The following is speculation: (after 26 years of marriage)--if we speculate her age at marriage as 18 then she would have been born about 1821, and age 47 at birth of that child---an old age for a birth. Does anyone have any light to shed on this? sincerely, judy hugg grimes

Jim Young asked me about the info from Jerry Daniel. Frankly I like his explanation. William probably married in Virginia to an unknown Elizabeth. Put with the info of Matilda Adams it is to me only explanation. The next question is where are the entire Hugenot Records. My only info there comes from the Brock book. To me there is also confusion concerning the George Sumpter married to Elizabeth Gross. How old is this guy? He has sons George, Edmond, and Richard. I believe he is tied to Richard Sumpter that was with the Hugenots because of the son Richard's name. The first Richard Sumpter has sons Christopher, tied to Richard in a tax record in June 1756, and most probably John who was in Chesterfield County at the same time as Richard. Then there is our Henry Sr. After they arrive in Henry County about 1775 there are deeds involving a George (too old to be Henry Sr.'s son) Also witnesses on these deeds are George and Elizabeth Sumpter, Admond (Edmond) Sumpter, and Henry and Aggy (Agnes Dillon) Sumpter. All these people tied together. Is George Henry's brother .... or father, uncle , cousin? There aren't too many of these guys (Sumpters), just all in the same area. Even the General's family is just a county north and at the same time and Henry Sr. first shows up in Cumberland County circa 1765 and Cumberland is out of Chesterfield. Help. Jim, can you computer deal Lotus. I would like to send you all I have that I put together. Jim Landrum Jpiccafe@aol.com Not to mention the George that arrives in 1721. My line from then til the present is full of George's and Henry's.

In a message dated 1/25/00 9:11:28 AM Pacific Standard Time, jmgeorge@dubuque.net writes: << It is wonderful that there is so much renewed interest in the Sumpter family and its origins. Please keep all the information coming to the rootsweb!! >> I agree with Jane 100% on this statement. If it was not for Jane and the others on this board I would still be stuck on my Sumpters not know all of the fascinating stories and the colorful lives they lived. It is amazing how when you read the stories about this family that these things which almost seem unheard of back then are still happening to this day. Let's all keep up the good work and hopefully we will all learn more about our roots from each other. Take care all and have a wonderful day. DdHober <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/d2hober/recipes.htm">Dees Recipes & Recipe Exchange</A> <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/ddhober/home.htm">Home</A> <A HREF="http://www.uftree.com/UFT/WebPages/DoubleD/DOUBLED/nindex.htm#BROWN"> Brown Family: Index</A>

On SUMPTER GenForum 31 Aug 1999, Jerry H. Daniel (in response to a query regarding William and Elizabeth Iverson Sumpter marrying and dying Histon, Cambridge, England) wrote the following: (Start quote) Nicholas Sumpter was born abt 1640 and died in 1695 and married Mary. Their Children are 1. Nicholas Sumpter born abt 1663 in Histon, Cambridge, England. He married Katherine Mathews on April 29, 1688 at St. Boltoph Church, Girton, Cambridge, England. He died in Girton, Cambridge, England. Their children were as follows A. Nicholas Sumpter Chr: 4 Mar 1688 at Impington, Cambridge, England. B. Patman Sumpter Chr: 6 Apr 1690 at Impington, Cambridge, England. Mar: Elizabeth Howlett in Histon, Cambridge, England on 24 Jan 1716. C. Mara Sumpter Chr: 20 Feb 1692 at Impington, Cambridge, England. D. William Sumpter Chr: 18 Aug 1695 at Histon, Cambridge, England. Mar: 18 June 1728 in Hanover Co., Va and marriage was recorded in Histon, Cambridge, England for inheritance purposes. Died 7 July 1752 on Sumpter property in Louisa Co., Virginia. .....................Willed was proved in November of 1752. 2. William Sumpter born abt 1664 in Histon, Cambridge, England. *** This is the William in your message. 3. Richard Sumpter born abt 1666 in Histon, Cambridge, England. *** He is the Hugeonot in the Hugeonot that landed in the Va's in the early 1700's. He is the possible ancestor to George Sumpter that other's are having problems connecting to. He arrived in Mannekin Town, King George Parish, Va. 4. Adam Sumpter born abt 1669 in Histon, Cambridge, England. He to possibly migrated later to central Virginia thru the Hugeonot round-up/sponsoring of the King in their general deportments to the Va's and Pa. I'm still looking thru the Hugeonot records. (End quote) ======================= Jerry H. Daniel also posts the following on 8 Sep 1999 in SUMPTER GenForum in response to the marriage record of William Sumpter in Hanover Co., VA. (Start quote) The marriage record spoke of, was recorded by the church sexton for inheritance purposes only. This record of marriage in Hanover county files is being researched by various members of the family. It would be very unlikely that they would have traveled back to England as they were very poor until later in life. There are also no ship records showing them departing or rearriving to the Americas. It was a matter of custom and law in the Americas to file your marriage license with the church in order to inherit if there was a chance of inheritting anything of value. Accordingly, William's Aunt appears to have been wealthy by the Draper Paper Records. (End Quote) ============= Jerry H. Daniel's posts raises some interesting questions. Perhaps, further discussion may or may not help resolve some of the issues. Which William Sumpter married Elizabeth Iverson (widow of John Iverson, d. 9 Feb 1724) about 1728 or 1729? Was it the 33 year-old William in paragraph 1.D.; or, was it the 64 year-old William in paragraph 2.? If the 33 year-old William SUMPTER married Elizabeth Iverson (widow of John Iverson), then the parents of William Sumpter in Hanover Co., VA (father of General Thomas Sumpter) are unknown. However, if the 64 year-old William Sumpter married Elizabeth Iverson (widow of John Iverson), then the parents of William Sumpter in Hanover Co., VA (father of General Thomas Sumpter) could possibly be Nicholas Sumpter (born abt 1663 in Histon, Cambridge, England) and Katherine Mathews. Did William Sumpter (father of General Thomas Sumter) marry on 18 June 1728 in Hanover Co., VA and record the marriage in Histon, Cambridge, England for inheritance purposes? Whose marriage record was recorded by the church sexton in Histon, Cambridge, England for inheritance purposes... William Sumpter, the 33 year-old or William Sumpter, the 64 year-old? Has anyone seen the alleged 18 June 1728 Hanover Co., VA marriage record for William Sumpter (father of General Thomas Sumter)? Was the bride's name on the marriage record? If the 33 year-old William Sumpter is proven to have married Elizabeth Iverson (widow of John Iverson), then the 64 year-old William Sumpter (1664) or his alleged brothers, Richard (1666) or Adam (1669) should be further researched as being the father of William Sumpter (father of General Thomas Sumter). Who is the wealthy aunt of William Sumpter (father of General Thomas Sumter) mentioned in the Draper Paper Records? The above question are based in part on the following research. ========= Matilda Adams of California recently concluded extensive research into the films at the Latter Day Saints Library in Salt Lake City. Matilda engaged a professional researcher to help her search the records. LDS films #496700 and #1040483 contain parish records from Histon, Cambridge, England. The following data taken from these films proves that William and Elizabeth (IVERSON) SUMPTER are NOT the parents of General Thomas SUMTER. 1695 William SUMPTER born to Nicklas and Katherine (MATHEWS) SUMPTER. 9 Feb 1724 John IVERSON died in Histon, England. 1729 William SUMPTER married Elizabeth IVERSON (widow). 10 July 1740 Elizabeth SUMPTER, wife of William, dies in Histon, England. 20 May 1753 William SUMPTER dies in Histon, England. Several children born: John, Thomas, Mary, Ann, Elizabeth and Mary (also death records for some). Conclusion: Since all of the above events occurred in England, William SUMPTER and Elizabeth (IVERSON) SUMPTER apparently are not the William and Elizabeth SUMPTER of Louisa County, VA and whom we believe are the parents of: Captain William; General Thomas; John; Edmund; and Patience [(FRANKLIN) SUDDARTH]. The parents of General Thomas SUMTER, William and Elizabeth SUMPTER, died in Virginia. William's will was written 7 July 1752 and filed November 1752; and Elizabeth SUMPTER lived to be 111 years old. She lived with her daughter in Virginia until long after the Revolutionary War and died early 1800s in Virginia. (Source: Jane Sumpter Malone-George <jmgeorge@dubuque.net>) ============ I sent an email message to Jerry H. Daniel <jerryh.daniel@excite.com> inquiring about his ancestors; and at the moment, I have not received a response. His snail mail address, as shown in the SUMPTER GenForum, is: 12263 Cavewood Road; Rogers, AR 72756 I hope my questions haven't further confused the issue on William Sumpter (father of General Thomas Sumter). Comments are most welcome from anyone wishing to participate in this discussion... I'm particularly interested in comments from Jim Landrum and Jane Malone-George and I hope I'm not pushing either into a corner. <grin> Regards, Jim Young

Jim Give me a day or two to think about it. Of course, I am most interested in the Richard Sumpter who was involved with the Hugenots. Jim Landrum

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