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Thanks, Peter SUFFOLK List Admin. -------------------------------------------------- Re: James Sale & Caroline Pryke of Barrow Suffolk This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: garyjillallison Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/2427.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Kat. My name is Gary in Australia & I am tracing my forebears including Alice Sale(s) who m. Marriage: 19 Mar 1890 St Cuthbert, Lytham, Lancashire, England William Arthur Hardy White - 26 Grocer's assistant Bachelor of Ashton St. Lytham , Lancashire. Alice Sales - 29 Spinster of 20 East Beach Lytham, Lancashire. Groom's Father: Arthur White, Commercial Traveller Bride's Father: James Sales, (deced.) Witness: James Ogden Allen; Annie Southworth Married by Licence by: H. B. Hawkins Notes: No profession [entered for the Bride's Father's occupation. Bride's occupation originally entered as House keeper, then deleted and replaced with No occupation. Bride's house number changed from 21 to 20. A note at the bottom of the page reads] These changes 'No occupation' instead of 'Housekeeper' and at 20 in place of 21 were made by me H. B. Hawkins Vicar in the presence of us W. A. H. White and Alice (Sales) White and at our request on June 28 1890. Witness our signatures [signed] W. A. H. White Alice (Sales) Alice White H. B. H. Register: Marriages 1873 - 1895, Page 111, Entry 222 Source: LDS Film 1470929. The only Alice I can find is Alice Angelina Sale England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 06 Jul 1862 BARROW,SUFFOLK,ENGLAND parents: James Sale, Caroline At the time of her wedding her father was deceased & there is no mention of her mother. I have had trouble finding her & the only one that is close is the Alice born in Suffolk parents James Sale & Caroline Pryke. Just wondering if you have found more since your last posting & I look forward to hearing from you. Regards, Gary. -------------------------------------------------- Re: Henry Elliston b1840 & Mary Ann Prewer This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: heather532012 Surnames: Mudd Elliston Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8229.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have just read your post and think that it might be the answer to a problem that I have been trying to solve although I have no proof. Refering back to the 1861 census I have followed Mary Ann Mudd to this point and then I lost her. I have been through the census for all her siblings and children she is not with any of them and she does not seem to have died. I tried marrying her off to various people but they never seemed quite right. The Death that you found in Sudbury fits perfectly for my Mary Ann as she was born in 1806 and would have been 84 when she died. This means that Mary Ann Mudd could have remarried and become Mary Ann Elliston. Mary Ann Mudd was born in Badley Suffolk in 1806. From the 1881 census Mary Ann Elliston the wife of Henry was born in Badley. I think that Badley has been written as Bradley in the 1871 census. Henry Elliston and Mary Ann Mudd are in the same household in the 1861 census and I guess they later got married. The problem is I can't find a marriage for them, maybe they lied about their ages and never really got married either! The whole of her family seem a bit strange as two of Mary Ann's brothers each marry one of her daughters (uncles marrying nieces must be illegal, I think) and Edwin, (her son in the 1861 census) appears married in the 1871 census but didn't actually marry until 2 years later. I will probably get Mary Ann's Death certificate to see if it is any help. As it is 4 years ago that you posted the query I would be interested to know if you got any further. Maybe you have already found a solution. -------------------------------------------------- Re: Ambrose Farrow - Great Thurlow This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kaysue10 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/2438.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Carol, I am just wondering whether my last emails got through to you as it has been a couple of /few weeks now?? I am very interested in sharing with you as we are both from the same line ... that's definate. Wishes Su. -------------------------------------------------- Re: Ambrose Farrow - Great Thurlow This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: carolsullivan17 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/2438.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Su, I did receive messages. Had a minor computer glitch, but all is well now. I am trying to go through the info you sent and will be responding in detail. Carol -------------------------------------------------- yoxford baptisms This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Peterjones1986 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8842/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for a Baptism for a John William Lockwood, supposingly born in Yoxford. he was born about 1800 to a John Cutts Lockwood & Amelia Anyone help? Many thanks -------------------------------------------------- FORD family Southelmham This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: vickylouford Surnames: FORD Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8843/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I'm wondering if anyone can help me with my research on the above. I am trying to find information regarding my 4 x great grandmother Rachel FORD b:1833. Background: Rachel gave birth to my 3 x great grandfather John Herbert Ford. There is no father listed on the birth certificate. Rachel is daughter to James and Elizabeth Ford (James was a shoemaker in Southelmham). The problem I am having is that Rachel disappears completely in the 1871 and 1881 census. John was born in 1865. I'm also having problems trying to find a death record for Rachel. Rachel re-appears in the 1891 census as a housekeeper for her nephew George in Bungay. My research has been further complicated by the fact that Rachel's elder brother James also gave birth to a daughter Rachel 5 years before hand in 1828! So it's been very easy confusing the two! Any help anyone can provide would be gratefully received. -------------------------------------------------- Elizabeth Gardiner - Monks Eleigh or Chelsworth This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: verona51_1 Surnames: Gardiner, Hazell (Hazle on 1841) Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8844/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello I'm in a pickle with my tree. Others on Ancestry have trees with Elizabeth Gardiner born in Chelsworth in 1810 and baptised in 1811 being the daughter of Robert Gardiner and Susannah Coates. The Elizabeth Gardiner I'm interested in married Robert Hazell in 1833 also in Monk's Eleigh. In all the censuses from 1851 on she gave her birth place as Monk's Eleigh. Is it possible that these two Elizabeths are different people? Does anyone have access to the baptism registers for both parishes to see if there is an Elizabeth Gardiner in each for 1805 to 1815? I'd be delighted if they prove to be the same woman but I'm beginning to have my doubts and I'm not sure why. -------------------------------------------------- Re: Ambrose Farrow - Great Thurlow This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kaysue10 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/2438.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Ok Carol, no problems ... was just a bit worried about the silence as normally people come back within a day or two .. so a couple of weeks is quite a long time. Hope that your PC is better now??? I have a fairly long list of Farrow's et all from various people which I am slowly going through and entering into my tree after confirming the info either myself or through my Dad and Uncle whose mother (my paternal grandmother) was Frances Mary Farrow 1897 - 1994. So depending on how much research you have done and what you have got ... is dependant on how I can help you or not? Hear from you soon. S. -------------------------------------------------- Re: George Bolton, Suffolk, England This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: beverleycarpenter23 Surnames: Bolton Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8530.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi .. Agnes was my grandmother . I have a family tree with lots of information about the sisters. Picture of them all outside the Plough at Blundeston (George was the landlord I think). Trissie later had a big house in Lowestoft and left money to my aunt. Agnes went to Africa to marry and my father was born in Africa. Fascinating! -------------------------------------------------- Re: George Bolton, Suffolk, England This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ams49 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8530.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Beverley, we are related! Harry Bolton was my maternal grandfather. I never knew him. My mother and her twin brother Douglas were separated at birth. I never knew Douglas and know nothing about my mother's family except what I found on ancestry. This is amazing information. Please feel free to contact me at [email protected] if you would like to discuss our relationship further. Thank you so much for posting this. I hope we can talk again very soon. -------------------------------------------------- Re: Elizabeth Gardiner - Monks Eleigh or Chelsworth This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: robesur Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8844.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: According to the transcriptions from the Cosford Database an Elizabeth Gardener (sic) was born in Monks Eleigh and baptised in Chelsworth 24 November 1811, the daughter of a Robert Gardiner and Susanne Coates. She married Robert Hazell in Monks Eleigh 6 July 1833 and was buried in Monks Eleigh 23 Jan 1863. Children attributed to Elizabeth and Robert Hazell were Robert, Robert, George, Susan, Mary Ann, Elizabeth, Eliza, Harriet, Robert and Sarah Ann. -------------------------------------------------- Re: Elizabeth Gardiner - Monks Eleigh or Chelsworth This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: verona51_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8844.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you very much. -------------------------------------------------- Re: Smith This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: angelabishop800 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/349.454.459.1.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Roma, have just had a reply from my cousin in Lavenham, He tells me my Aunty Violet has fond memories of Nellie, who worked for a Mr Brown in his greengrocers shop she also worked in his allotment helping with growing vegetables for his shop which was situated in Hall rd, which is nowadays the car park for the Swan Hotel, Nellie did indeed live on Station Rd, which then became High St, but she moved into a bungalow on Spring St, as she got old, sadley she died only two years ago this christmas at the grand old age of 101, she never married nor had any other children, at the time of your birth my Aunty would have been around 12yrs old and remembered Nellie from that time but never knew she'd had a child, but she says she remembered her arriving in the village so this could've been shortly after your birth. My cousin will take some pics of the areas and I will put them up on my family tree, and make them public for you to access, or if you email me I can send them directly! to your email, [email protected] Im fairly certain that we are connected through the family line of Smith, but as of yet I have to find Nellies parents whom I think could be my GGG grandmothers brother. Regards Angela -------------------------------------------------- Re: Smith This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: suffolkmawther Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/349.454.459.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The Nellie Smith pictured in 'Our Memories' by Lavenham Folk pub 2006 is obviously a different Nellie. Pat ... -------------------------------------------------- Strowger Robert This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mbfallen Surnames: Strowger Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8845/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am the grandaughter of William Strowger born 1887 in South Shields and killed in action 3 Sept 1917. greatfather was George born 1849, married Hannah Davidson, great great grandfather James born 1814 married Elizabeth Cooper Scarlet, gr gr gr grnadfather Robert Strowger (Strougher) married Mary Ling?? -------------------------------------------------- Re: Harriet BULLINGHAM This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: msjjhb1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/1454.1611.1613.1629.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Harriet Bellingham was my paternal grandmother. Married frank welland and gave birth to hubert welland my recently deceased dad. Any relations? Ni�o welland -------------------------------------------------- Re: Smith This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: roma117 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/349.454.459.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Angela, Thank you for the information on Nellie Smith. It is rather sad that I did not contact her before she died. She left me a prayer book which my adopted mother gave me before I left to come to Australia. I thought I was doing the right thing by not chasing up my birth mother. Of course things have changed now and it is considered the thing to do. My adopted family have mostly died and I have been feeling lonely. Family means a lot to me and I guess I was not expecting to find anyone connected to me. Soooo many Smiths. Cheers, Roma. -------------------------------------------------- KING Ipswich This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Grytr Surnames: KING KENWARD Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8846/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Frustrated. Unable to locate birth or mother nor confirm father of brothers ... (A) HENRY DOUGLAS KING (abt 1853-) m (8 Sep 1878) Susannah Hubbard (1856-) father of H D KING noted as WILLIAM at marriage and (B) ARTHUR WEBB KING (Abt 1862 -) m (abt 1886) JULIA ANN MARSHALL (1862-) maternal grandfather of KENWARD. Both HENRY and ARTHUR appear in the census records, 1891, 1901 and 1911 quoting their birth place as SUFFOLK, IPSWICH. These census records confirm details recalled by a living relative so we have the correct census records, marriages and subsequent relatives. This issue has frustrated me now for over two weeks. The relevant KENWARD family tree is a private tree at the request of a living relative. However, if anyone is able to offer genuine assistance, I have permission to make the tree available to them for the purpose. Grytr -------------------------------------------------- Re: KING Ipswich This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lulupat Surnames: King Classification: birth Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8846.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Mis-transcribed birth registration Births Dec 1853 (>99%) THING Henry Douglas Ipswich 4a 464 Purchasing this from the GRO will give you both of his parents --------------------------------------------------