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Thanks, Peter SUFFOLK List Admin. -------------------------------------------------- GibbsThis is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Tess02uk Surnames: Gibbs Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8830/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Harriet Gibbs born around 1813, Married James Pedder. Does anyone happen to have any further information on this? Cheers -------------------------------------------------- Re: William Warner 1805 -1892 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: silvery194 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8829.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Boyds Marriage Index gives the marriage as 1829, Halesworth and William's burial on the NBI 12/02/1892 aged 85 at St. Margaret's, Linstead Parva. Hope this helps - can't see a baptism for William at present -------------------------------------------------- Re: William Warner 1805 -1892 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Dorili Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8829.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you I hope it does, I have been looking for this for ages, if you find anything else I will be grateful to receive it Regards Dorili -------------------------------------------------- Mary Emma Plum This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: angelabishop800 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8831/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Searching for information regarding Mary Emma Plum, can only find marriage record to Samuel Blundell, and census, cannot find birth records name of parents or birthplace, I know they lived in Sudbury, and that some of her children were born in Conway Caernarvonshire, and the later ones registered in Suffolk, not even sure if Mary Emma even came from Suffolk she was known in the family as Emma. Many Thanks Angela -------------------------------------------------- Re: Mary Emma Plum This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lulupat Surnames: Blundell,Plumb Classification: census Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8831.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: According to the 1911 census she was born in Essex BLUNDELL, Samuel Head Married M 32 1879 Boot Maker And Repairer Conway Carnarvon BLUNDELL, Mary Emma Wife Married10 years F 37 1874 Pentlow Essex BLUNDELL, Samuel Arthur Vincent Son M 10 1901 School Conway Carnarvon BLUNDELL, Frederick William George Son M 7 1904 School Conway Carnarvon BLUNDELL, Edward Victor Son M 3 1908 Tywyn Carnarvon BLUNDELL, Kathleen Frances Emma Daughter F 1 1910 Sudbury Suffolk RG number: RG14 Piece: 10553 Reference: RG14PN10553 RG78PN565 RD205 SD3 ED7 SN177 Registration District: Sudbury Sub District: Sudbury Enumeration District: 7 Parish: Sudbury Address: 41 Mill Lane Sudbury Suffolk County: Suffolk -------------------------------------------------- Re: Mary Emma Plum This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: carobradford Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8831.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Angela This looks like her marriage: Marriages Mar 1901 BLUNDELL Samuel Sudbury 4a 863 PLUMB Mary Emma Sudbury 4a 863 The marriage certificate (�9.25 inclusive of postage from www.gro.gov.uk) will give you her father's name and occupation. Caroline -------------------------------------------------- Re: Mary Emma Plum This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: angelabishop800 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8831.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Many thanks to you both, Lulupat and Carolbennet for the information, will chase up the marriage certificate asap -------------------------------------------------- Re: Mary Emma Plum This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: glemsue Surnames: Plum Classification: birth Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8831.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: >From the parish registers of St. George, Pentlow, Essex Mary Emma Plum baptised December 28th, 1873 daughter of William and Louisa father a labourer. -------------------------------------------------- Re: Mary Emma Plum This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: angelabishop800 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8831.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thankyou Glemsue for the information, once again you have come up trumps, you gave me some info a while ago on my Grandmothers side of the family from Lavenham,Long Melford area again many thanks for taking the time to look up the records Sincerely Angela -------------------------------------------------- Re: Soar family in Suffolk This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: thescopesies Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/589.1417.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: we are connected through william scopes snr b1804. i have him registered in the 1841 census with William snr and eliza. also siblings elizabeth, thomas and robert. -------------------------------------------------- Re: Bloomfield, Ipswich, Suffolk This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Famagusta Surnames: Bloomfield Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8822.2.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Kas My BLOOMFIELD/BLUMFIELD family start in 1790 with the birth of John in Framsden Suffolk. He married Hannah EMMERSON in 1813 in Tattingstone, and they had 4 daughters and 1 son between 1813 and 1823, a daughter, Sarah, married into my family of TRACEY. John his son went onto marry and have children but I cannot find any that link in with your tree. Sorry. I would say that there are a number of spellings of the surname and there are lots of them in Suffolk so you will have an interesting time ahead of you. I hope when you check all the details that Geoff sent you, that you find your ancestors, but don't loose heart if it takes a while. Family Tree research is a lifetime hobby and one that you will never finish ... ... Good Luck and Happy Hunting Tricia -------------------------------------------------- Re: Johes Oxborowe This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rosemill76 Surnames: Osborowe, Oxborrow Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8187.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I saw this several years ago in a lovely tree chart uploaded to the web by Toby Oxborrow (can't find it any more) and wondered the same thing. Someone I showed it to pointed out that there was an ellipsis after the name Johes which indicated that there was a gap in information there, i.e., some generations were missing. I'm not sure how they knew about Johes if there were missing generations though. Perhaps it was simply that they didn't have room on the pretty chart for all the generations. -------------------------------------------------- Robinson's of Wetherden This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tonineobard Surnames: Robinson & Dean/Dane Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8832/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have a mystery - and it is complicated so apologies for this long post! I am researching a Joseph Charles Robinson born around 1844, a bricklayer, whose census entries state that he is from Wetherden, Suffolk. He appears to live his adult life in Cambridge, Cambridgeshire (from the time of the 1871 census until his death in 1921). I have his marriage certificate to Sarah Susannah Ayres (marriage 1874, Cambridge) which states his father is Joseph Robinson, a builder. So I was pleased when I found a Joseph Robinson, born around 1845 in Wetherden with a father called Joseph who was a bricklayer. However, things then went downhill, as it was clear that Joseph junior continued to live in Wetherden, and is shown on the 1871/1881/1891 censuses with his wife Susan . So he couldn't be 'my' Joseph Charles Robinson as he was in Cambridge at this time - unless of course he was a very careful bigamist who ran from home to home to make sure he was in both on all census nights :-) I sent for the birth certificate of a Joseph Charles Robinson which fitted the details I had and this shows he was born on 21st December 1843 and his parents were Joseph Robinson, bricklayer and Mary Ann Dane. Now I know that the maiden name for the Mary Ann who is the wife of Joseph Robinson (senior) living in Wetherden is Dean - which is too similar to Dane to ignore. But I think their child Joseph is the one born in 1846 in the birth indexes as his age is consistent on the censuses and is too young to be the Joseph Charles born in December 1843. I am working on the theory that my Joseph Charles may be their other son called Charles Robinson who disappears from the census at around the right time. His age is spot on to be my Joseph Charles. And also I note that there are two Charles Robinson's of the same age on the census for the area, but only one shown in the birth indexes. So one may have been given another name at birth. It is always possible this Charles dies before the 1871 census as there is one that does, but no age at death is shown at this time and I think it relates to another Charles Robinson who dies as an infant. If Charles Robinson is my Joseph Charles Robinson, why on earth did the parents register two children as Joseph. I have only ever come across this when the first one dies. Is there anyone who has access to the Wetherden Parish Records that could help me clear up this mystery. Many thanks Toni -------------------------------------------------- Re: Robinson's of Wetherden This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Robesure Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8832.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Wetherden burials at St Marys are on the NBI. The only Charles around that time were 9 July 1847, age 78 and a Charles William, 23 Feb 1874 age 6 weeks. The only Joseph was 17 Aug 1894 age 79. -------------------------------------------------- Re: Robinson's of Wetherden This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tonineobard Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8832.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks Robesure - that does help. I've got my fingers crossed that someone has access to Wetherden baptisms which may shed further light. I have known children's births to be registered under one given name only for another to be given at baptism - and I have a vague hope that this may be the case here. Kind regards Toni -------------------------------------------------- Charles Warner, born about 1794 in Stonham Aspal This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: maryl2010 Surnames: Warner, Steward Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8833/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for a baptism for Charles Warner, born about 1794 in Stonham Aspall, Suffolk. Also his marriage to Lydia Steward between about 1832 and 1840. This could be in Ipswich, London, or anywhere else! Charles Warner was a soldier (on his daughter's marriage) and a labourer on his death certificate. I would be very grateful for any help. Mary Lynch -------------------------------------------------- Re: YOUNG, William Chambers & YOUNG, Plowman Suffolk This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pie_lai Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8705.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: yes, I did learn that my grandfather father's grandfathers father is Dr Plowman Young :) If they are interested I am willing to help/ give information? I know a lot about the family free and the history behind it. -------------------------------------------------- Re: Charles Warner, born about 1794 in Stonham Aspal This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: glemsue Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8833.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Have you found them on any census, where did you get Charles birthplace from. what were their childrens names and places of birth? -------------------------------------------------- Re: Charles Warner, born about 1794 in Stonham Aspal This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: maryl2010 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8833.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My starting point is the marriage in London, in 1863 of my g-g-grandparents Charlotte Warner and Joseph Morgan. Charlotte's father is given as Charles Warner (deceased), profession soldier. I have found Charlotte in every census from 1851 to 1911 (but not 1841). Her age varies slightly, but I think she was probably born in 1835. Even in 1851 she is not with her parents. Her place of birth is given variously as Strand, St Martins, or Charing Cross. I have not found any convincing baptisms. I looked for soldiers called Charles Warner, and the best candidate I can find was born in Stonham Aspal in 1794. He joined the Coldstream Guards at Ipswich in 1816, and served as a private up to 1838. His WO97 service record is on findmypast. His occupation is given as labourer. There is no mention of any wife or children. My hypothesis is that this Charles Warner is the same one who died in 1846, with death registered in St James, Westminster. He was buried on St James, Picadilly, age 53 (findmypast and familysearch). I recently bought the death certificate, which gives his occupation as labourer. The informant is his wife, Lydia. I can't find Charles or Lydia Warner on the 1841 census. Lydia remarried in 1849, which gives me her maiden name, Steward. I have found her with her husband Robert Kirby on the 1851 census. This gives her age, 36, and place of birth, Ipswich. I haven't found them in 1861, but by 1871 Lydia is a widow again, back in Ipswich. Apologies for such a long post, but I thought it worth giving what evidence I have, as it is a bit thin. The main connection to tie these people together is that Charles and Lydia are both from Suffolk. Also there is a Westminster connection - the Coldstream guards were often in Westminster, where Charlotte was born. Sometimes they were posted to Ireland, which may explain the lack of a baptism. Or perhaps Charlotte was baptised in Ipswich. There is a baptism in 1842, in St Martin in the Fields, for a Charlotte Warner born in 1835, but her parents are William (a soldier) and Elizabeth. There is a Charlotte Warner born in 1832, to Charles Lloyd Warner and Jane Ayton, but I am sure she is not the right one. Of course, it is possible that Charlotte did not know her father's name, and made it up! Mary --------------------------------------------------