Hi Michael, On familysearch I note a lot of English born Wilsons are in the USA, so so since you havent found Helen in the 1881 or 1891 census maybe you could find her there. They may have returned to the UK later. Some passengers lists may show that. I didnt see your Helen in the February, 1899 marraige, of kilburn, London. Where did you find that. You havent given her husbands name, which would help. On Family search, I did find a Ellen Wilson birth 1872 at Thetford, Norfolk, England. In the 1881 census she is 9. Relationship to head, A Pauper, Scholar. Address: Union workhouse, Thetford. Thetford Street, St Mary, Norfolk. Edie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] bastardy orders > Hi Edie > Over the years I have tried various permutations and have eventually > disproved them. > >>> I'm having great trouble trying to pin down my Gt Granny who according >>> to the 1901 census was born Yarmouth, Suffolk in 1872 and according to >>> the 1911 census Yarmouth, Norfolk in 1873. >>> >>> According to her marriage certificate of February 1899, Kilburn, >>> Middlesex. She was the daughter of John WILSON a deceased fisherman. >>> >>> I can't find her in the 1891 or 1881 census and I can't find her birth >>> registration. There are a few possibilities but they have all been >>> disproved.