I see Michael you have done as i have done with my elusive 4th Gt Gfr. You ahve tried all lists. However, you have only given us some detgails and this British Genalogy list you have really detailed the family, that may help us to look further or try to help further. Have you tried Ireland as that is where my search for my elusive 4th Gt GF has now taken me. Maybe Helen thought she was born in Yarmouth. Seen it often, whee a paerson has made a mistake with their place of birth. She may have been baptised there. Has to be an explanation of some sort. Edie http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-53351.html -- Shared using Google Toolbar