Could she have been the illegitmate daughter of Johns wife Helen and he has adopted her, or she was just given his name. Did you check for a spinster birth for Helen by her maiden name. I guess you would have. She may have been baptised in 1872 with only Helens name. On Familysearch the old one and most likely the new one, you can do a Place search in the Family History Library Catalogue. If you type the Parish in the place of interest and the County the birth took place then see what the Latter Day saints have filmed for that area. Sometimes they have filmed the Bastardy records for he area. You can then hire the film in your nearest Latter day Saints family history library. About $7 dollars to hire and you can keep it there for three months so can check other records for your family out as well. Edie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 1:05 AM Subject: [SFK-UK] bastardy orders > I'm having great trouble trying to pin down my Gt Granny who according > to the 1901 census was born Yarmouth, Suffolk in 1872 and according to > the 1911 census Yarmouth, Norfolk in 1873. > > According to her marriage certificate of February 1899, Kilburn, > Middlesex. She was the daughter of John WILSON a deceased fisherman. > > I can't find her in the 1891 or 1881 census and I can't find her birth > registration. There are a few possibilities but they have all been > disproved. > > I've thought for a long time that she was perhaps the illegitimate > daughter of a Scottish fisher girl and local fisherman. Or the > illegitimate daughter of a local girl and a Scottish fisherman. > > If either is the case, then there may well be some form of legal > document, somewhere. Such as a bastardy order. > > Does anybody know if there are any and if so are they in the public > domain. > > My Gt. Granny was Helen Elizabeth WILSON. > > Many thanks > > Michael in Lancashire > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Edie Over the years I have tried various permutations and have eventually disproved them. The thing that bugs me now is that I never kept a list of all the disproved, except where I have certificates. It's only recently that I have started listing the wrong ones. Back in the last century, I had all the films for the Yarmouth area at my local LDS. Prior to that I lived only 20 minutes or so away from Ipswich RO and spent a lot of time there looking for her. Michael in wet and windy Lancashire On 23-Sep-12 2:30 AM, Edie wrote: > Could she have been the illegitmate daughter of Johns wife Helen and he has > adopted her, or she was just given his name. Did you check for a spinster > birth for Helen by her maiden name. I guess you would have. She may have > been baptised in 1872 with only Helens name. > > On Familysearch the old one and most likely the new one, you can do a Place > search in the Family History Library Catalogue. If you type the Parish in > the place of interest and the County the birth took place then see what > the Latter Day saints have filmed for that area. Sometimes they have filmed > the Bastardy records for he area. You can then hire the film in your nearest > Latter day Saints family history library. About $7 dollars to hire and you > can keep it there for three months so can check other records for your > family out as well. > Edie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 1:05 AM > Subject: [SFK-UK] bastardy orders > > >> I'm having great trouble trying to pin down my Gt Granny who according >> to the 1901 census was born Yarmouth, Suffolk in 1872 and according to >> the 1911 census Yarmouth, Norfolk in 1873. >> >> According to her marriage certificate of February 1899, Kilburn, >> Middlesex. She was the daughter of John WILSON a deceased fisherman. >> >> I can't find her in the 1891 or 1881 census and I can't find her birth >> registration. There are a few possibilities but they have all been >> disproved. >> >> I've thought for a long time that she was perhaps the illegitimate >> daughter of a Scottish fisher girl and local fisherman. Or the >> illegitimate daughter of a local girl and a Scottish fisherman. >> >> If either is the case, then there may well be some form of legal >> document, somewhere. Such as a bastardy order. >> >> Does anybody know if there are any and if so are they in the public >> domain. >> >> My Gt. Granny was Helen Elizabeth WILSON. >> >> Many thanks >> >> Michael in Lancashire >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >