Hello Terry and Listers, I just wanted to say that Roy Copping was any amazing researcher and so very helpful to me here in Canada. Altho his own lineage in Essex was difficult to advance, Roy was always interested in helping others. His letters, Copping findings and efforts to sort through and reason out the various family lines was a remarkable talent. My grandparents were born in Suffolk and Roy was very familiar with many of the COPPINGs there. He was always prepared to give his overall findings and his reasons for making surname connections based on the surviving records. He always presented his data and allowed you to make your own decision. Searching forward from the available 1881 Census available through the LDS/FHC here in Canada was even more difficult. Prior to meeting Roy, I had been ordering and viewing filmed church records. When I determined that my grandfather and his parents might be in Essex, well without Roy I would not have been able to proceed. My father lost his Dad when he was 14. His mother was my only living grandparent. My research has taken a strange direction into what amounts to family secrets. I have made contact with living descendants of my grandfather still in Essex and been ignored. For those interested - both my grandparents descend from John Copping and Elizabeth Bromeley who married 1710 at Coddenham. Their common connection was Ezekiel Copping and Susan Newson married 1810 at Henley and died at Grundisburgh. Roy was ever so helpful finding details of my grandfather COPPING in Chelmsford/Essex. This you see was my grandfather with his wife and children. And I still have no idea how he happened to come to Canada with my grandmother. I am still trying to put together the pieces but I do have much more these days. I have been successfully locating from free BMD the various certs for his wife and children. I now know when his wife died in Essex which was many years after his death here in Canada. I know when and who his daughter married. And I know much about his two eldest sons in England. Terry - my COPPING surname connection is COTTON if you should want to look in Roy's files. I seem to recall he would refer to his HEAP where he always knew he had something of importance. For those COPPING researchers who might be inclined to help me with current missing pieces: My grandfather only had one sibling and I know he was living according to the 1911 Census for parents Thomas Copping and Mary Ann Smith. Two live births - two living! My grandfather George was born 1863 at Sutton. Harry COPPING was born in 1865 at Grundisburgh. The family unit was together in 1881 at Burgh. Harry (a minor) married in 1884 at Laxfield and was seen 1891 at Hoxne as a carter/boarder. I have not found Harry in the 1901 or 1911 Census. But I have found in 1901 and 1911 Rachel, the woman Harry married in 1884 and her daughter named Annie who was seen in 1891 with Thomas and Mary Ann at Blaxhall. To further confuse you perhaps - it is believed that my grandfathers brother Harry (a widower) remarried in March 1917 at Colchester and lived and died in York. My primary concern is the mention that this Harry's father Thomas was deceased on the marriage cert and my great grandfather Thomas did not die until Dec 1918. I do have a theory as to who married in 1917 but it is beyond my pocketbook to chase further. On the one hand I am tempted to order the York 1936 death certificate but I suspect I will learn nothing concrete to prove his roots. For some reason I cannot stop looking for my grandfather's brother Harry but I am stuck and missing my friend Roy and his many talents and willingness to help. Any help would be most welcome, thanks, Lois Copping in BC/Canada >Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 08:26:55 +0100 >From: "Terry Tidman" <[email protected]> > > >Hello to the Copping researcher. I am/was a distant cousin of Roy Copping, >and I live in Leigh on Sea. I have inherited a number of files of various >Names who had a Copping connection, not referred to villages or Counties, >mainly Surname links If you can let me know of another surname connection of >the Walpole Betsy Copping I will see if there is any name link rather than a >Parish at this stage. Hope this helps. >If you would contact me direct I will see if there is any connection with >the names I have. >My e-mail is the [email protected], >Terry Tidman