Good Afternoon, I have the above persons in my family tree. and I am hoping that someone can help me to fill in a few gaps Samuel Sore and Alice Wham married ? parents ? They had 6 children all born Bury St Edmunds Hannah Maria b 1815, John b 1816, Samuel B 1817 , Georgiana b 1819 ,Emma b1820 and Emily b 1829 From the 1851 census Samuel and Alice were born Bury (Bury St Edmunds ?) Suffolk act 1791 and on both the 1841 and 1851 Samuel’s occupation was a “cooper” . On a “UK register of paid for apprentices Indentures “ I have found a Sam Sore master, location Bury St Edmunds Suffolk., Cooper. Payment due 30/04/1783. Also a Land Tax Redemption 1798 Cook Row. Both tenant and proprietor are Saml Sore.Residence St Mary, Bury St Edmunds,Suffolk England I am wondering if this Samuel is possibly the father of Samuel b 1791 and if so is there any way of proving it. It seems a coincidence that both Samuels are “coopers." Thank you Liz maxwell

Hello Liz There is a baptism of a Samuel Gardener Sore on 10th February 1791 at St Mary's Bury St Edmunds, parents were John and Christian (late Cutmore). The birth date is given as 11th September 1789. Maybe John's father and/or brother was Samuel. Brian On 14 November 2018 5:47:27 am Liz Maxwell <lizmax@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > From the 1851 census Samuel and Alice were born Bury (Bury St Edmunds ?) > Suffolk act 1791 and on both the 1841 and 1851 Samuel’s occupation was a > “cooper” . > > > > > > > I am wondering if this Samuel is possibly the father of Samuel b 1791 and > if so is there any way of proving it. It seems a coincidence that both > Samuels are “coopers".

Just noticed that there is a John Sore baptised in 1767 and his father was Samuel. Samuel was buried 7Th Jan 1850 at St Mary's, Bury St Edmunds. Brian -----Original Message----- From: Brian Lummis via SUFFOLK <suffolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: 14 November 2018 08:14 Subject: [SFK-UK] Re: Samuel Sore and Alice Wham Maybe John's father and/or brother was Samuel.

Hello Liz Alice WHAM married Samuel SORE at Ipswich St Margaret on 25 December 1814 (Suffolk FHS marriage index). She appears to have been baptized at Stanton All Saints in 1787, a daughter of John WHAM and Alice SMITH, who had married in the neighbouring village of Bardwell (about 11 miles NE of Bury St Edmunds) in 1784 (FamiySearch.org). That could explain her name in a death notice published by the Bury and Norwich Post on 26 January 1853: "On the 21st inst., after a long affliction, in her 66th year, Alice Smith, widow of the late Mr. Samuel Gardener Sore, cooper, of Abbeygate-street, in this town." David ________________________________ From: Liz Maxwell <lizmax@optusnet.com.au> To: Suffolk <Suffolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2018, 5:47 Subject: [SFK-UK] Samuel Sore and Alice Wham Good Afternoon, I have the above persons in my family tree. and I am hoping that someone can help me to fill in a few gaps Samuel Sore and Alice Wham married ? parents ? They had 6 children all born Bury St Edmunds Hannah Maria b 1815, John b 1816, Samuel B 1817 , Georgiana b 1819 ,Emma b1820 and Emily b 1829 From the 1851 census Samuel and Alice were born Bury (Bury St Edmunds ?) Suffolk act 1791 and on both the 1841 and 1851 Samuel’s occupation was a “cooper” . On a “UK register of paid for apprentices Indentures “ I have found a Sam Sore master, location Bury St Edmunds Suffolk., Cooper. Payment due 30/04/1783. Also a Land Tax Redemption 1798 Cook Row. Both tenant and proprietor are Saml Sore.Residence St Mary, Bury St Edmunds,Suffolk England I am wondering if this Samuel is possibly the father of Samuel b 1791 and if so is there any way of proving it. It seems a coincidence that both Samuels are “coopers." Thank you Liz maxwell

Hi David, Thank you for the information. I got out my road atlas of the Uk and found the places where the Sore and Wham families lived. I have found a death for Samuel Sore July 1851 bury St Edmunds and as Alice died in 1853 it is possible that it is the right man. I wonder what her long affliction was ? Thanks once again Liz > On 15 Nov 2018, at 11:33 PM, David Gobbitt via SUFFOLK <suffolk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hello Liz > > Alice WHAM married Samuel SORE at Ipswich St Margaret on 25 December 1814 (Suffolk FHS marriage index). > > She appears to have been baptized at Stanton All Saints in 1787, a daughter of John WHAM and Alice SMITH, who had married in the neighbouring village of Bardwell (about 11 miles NE of Bury St Edmunds) in 1784 (FamiySearch.org). > > That could explain her name in a death notice published by the Bury and Norwich Post on 26 January 1853: > > "On the 21st inst., after a long affliction, in her 66th year, Alice Smith, widow of the late Mr. Samuel Gardener Sore, cooper, of Abbeygate-street, in this town." > > David > ________________________________ > From: Liz Maxwell <lizmax@optusnet.com.au> > To: Suffolk <Suffolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2018, 5:47 > Subject: [SFK-UK] Samuel Sore and Alice Wham > > Good Afternoon, > > I have the above persons in my family tree. and I am hoping that someone can help me to fill in a few gaps > > Samuel Sore and Alice Wham married ? parents ? > > They had 6 children all born Bury St Edmunds Hannah Maria b 1815, John b 1816, Samuel B 1817 , Georgiana b 1819 ,Emma b1820 and Emily b 1829 > > From the 1851 census Samuel and Alice were born Bury (Bury St Edmunds ?) Suffolk act 1791 and on both the 1841 and 1851 Samuel’s occupation was a “cooper” . > > On a “UK register of paid for apprentices Indentures “ I have found a Sam Sore master, location Bury St Edmunds Suffolk., Cooper. Payment due 30/04/1783. > > Also a Land Tax Redemption 1798 Cook Row. Both tenant and proprietor are Saml Sore.Residence St Mary, Bury St Edmunds,Suffolk England > > I am wondering if this Samuel is possibly the father of Samuel b 1791 and if so is there any way of proving it. It seems a coincidence that both Samuels are “coopers." > > Thank you > > Liz maxwell > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community