Hello, Folks. As we do at this time every year on this List and this year especially (being the 100th anniversary of the WWI Armistice, the 80th anniversary of Kristallnacht, and the 51st anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall), and whether you call it Remembrance Day, Armistice Day or Veterans' Day, please feel free to post your memories of warriors either lost or returned, who served or who are still serving, of any country and any conflict, and of civilians lost because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. I remember my father, Lt.Col. Gordon M. Wyant (b. Günter Maximilian Weiss), who served in the RAMC in WWII, and my uncle, Sgt. Edgar T. Wyant (b. Egon Weiss), who served in Italy with the 849th Signal Infantry Service, U.S. Army. I remember my grandfather's younger brother, Gefr. Arthur Weiss, 87th Reserve Infantry Regiment of Mainz, who was killed near Cernay-en-Dormois, France, on 15 May/1915 (Pesach) fighting for his country. I remember all my Suffolk uncles who served in British forces in WWII. Last year, I tried to find Arthur's grave in three immaculately kept German war cemeteries near Cernay-en-Dormois but could not. Each cemetery also had a mass plot holding hundreds and hundreds of unnamed German war dead from nearby battles of WWI. I can only assume he is resting in one of those. I also stood on Juno Beach and cried, remembering all the Canadians who stormed ashore at that place on 6 Jun/1944, many of whom now rest in the Canadian war cemetery at Beny-sur-Mer, a few kilometres inland, under the quiet shade of Canadian maple trees. May they rest in peace. Looking at the world today and the recent rise of racism, populism, nationalism, protectionism or fascism in many countries, western and non-western, I sometimes fear they died in vain. And I remember all the members of my extended family who perished in the Holocaust. Lest we forget. Peter SUFFOLK List Admin.

Thank you. It was a privilege to read your remembrances. I remember my father Bill Brooks 1914 - 1987, who served in the RAMC in WWII, my father-in-law Reg Dean who served in the RAF in WWII, my father's cousin Ron Watts who served in Fighter Command in WWII. I empathise with you concerning your visit. I went on a D-Day Landing commemorative tour in 1984.  A few years ago,  I went on a battlefields tour of The Somme; Ploegsteert is where my father's uncle is commemorated: Arthur George Harrison, Machine Gun Corps, killed on my grandmother's birthday 20th May in 1918. My mother's cousin Andrew Newton Haig was killed 12th July 1915 in the Dardenelles, he is commemorated on the Gallipoli Helles Memorial; as my mother was born in 1911 I don't knew if she knew or knew of him. R.I.P. Joy Dean On 10/11/2018 15:13, P. S. Wyant wrote: > Hello, Folks. > > As we do at this time every year on this List and this year especially (being the 100th anniversary of the WWI Armistice, the 80th anniversary of Kristallnacht, and the 51st anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall), and whether you call it Remembrance Day, Armistice Day or Veterans' Day, please feel free to post your memories of warriors either lost or returned, who served or who are still serving, of any country and any conflict, and of civilians lost because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. > > I remember my father, Lt.Col. Gordon M. Wyant (b. Günter Maximilian Weiss), who served in the RAMC in WWII, and my uncle, Sgt. Edgar T. Wyant (b. Egon Weiss), who served in Italy with the 849th Signal Infantry Service, U.S. Army. I remember my grandfather's younger brother, Gefr. Arthur Weiss, 87th Reserve Infantry Regiment of Mainz, who was killed near Cernay-en-Dormois, France, on 15 May/1915 (Pesach) fighting for his country. I remember all my Suffolk uncles who served in British forces in WWII. > > Last year, I tried to find Arthur's grave in three immaculately kept German war cemeteries near Cernay-en-Dormois but could not. Each cemetery also had a mass plot holding hundreds and hundreds of unnamed German war dead from nearby battles of WWI. I can only assume he is resting in one of those. > > I also stood on Juno Beach and cried, remembering all the Canadians who stormed ashore at that place on 6 Jun/1944, many of whom now rest in the Canadian war cemetery at Beny-sur-Mer, a few kilometres inland, under the quiet shade of Canadian maple trees. May they rest in peace. Looking at the world today and the recent rise of racism, populism, nationalism, protectionism or fascism in many countries, western and non-western, I sometimes fear they died in vain. > > And I remember all the members of my extended family who perished in the Holocaust. > > Lest we forget. > > Peter > SUFFOLK List Admin. > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I would like to commemorate a great uncle Charles Dakin of Lavenham who was killed at Cambrai in France. His sister, my grandmother worked in munitions factory. I don't know where that was. She died of cancer in the 1920s less than a year after my mothers birth. I have always wondered if her death could have been connected to her work in munitions. Steve Sent from my iPhone > On 10 Nov 2018, at 16:31, Joy Dean via SUFFOLK <suffolk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Thank you. It was a privilege to read your remembrances. > > I remember my father Bill Brooks 1914 - 1987, who served in the RAMC in WWII, my father-in-law Reg Dean who served in the RAF in WWII, my father's cousin Ron Watts who served in Fighter Command in WWII. > > I empathise with you concerning your visit. I went on a D-Day Landing commemorative tour in 1984. A few years ago, I went on a battlefields tour of The Somme; Ploegsteert is where my father's uncle is commemorated: Arthur George Harrison, Machine Gun Corps, killed on my grandmother's birthday 20th May in 1918. My mother's cousin Andrew Newton Haig was killed 12th July 1915 in the Dardenelles, he is commemorated on the Gallipoli Helles Memorial; as my mother was born in 1911 I don't knew if she knew or knew of him. > > R.I.P. > > Joy Dean > > >> On 10/11/2018 15:13, P. S. Wyant wrote: >> Hello, Folks. >> >> As we do at this time every year on this List and this year especially (being the 100th anniversary of the WWI Armistice, the 80th anniversary of Kristallnacht, and the 51st anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall), and whether you call it Remembrance Day, Armistice Day or Veterans' Day, please feel free to post your memories of warriors either lost or returned, who served or who are still serving, of any country and any conflict, and of civilians lost because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. >> >> I remember my father, Lt.Col. Gordon M. Wyant (b. Günter Maximilian Weiss), who served in the RAMC in WWII, and my uncle, Sgt. Edgar T. Wyant (b. Egon Weiss), who served in Italy with the 849th Signal Infantry Service, U.S. Army. I remember my grandfather's younger brother, Gefr. Arthur Weiss, 87th Reserve Infantry Regiment of Mainz, who was killed near Cernay-en-Dormois, France, on 15 May/1915 (Pesach) fighting for his country. I remember all my Suffolk uncles who served in British forces in WWII. >> >> Last year, I tried to find Arthur's grave in three immaculately kept German war cemeteries near Cernay-en-Dormois but could not. Each cemetery also had a mass plot holding hundreds and hundreds of unnamed German war dead from nearby battles of WWI. I can only assume he is resting in one of those. >> >> I also stood on Juno Beach and cried, remembering all the Canadians who stormed ashore at that place on 6 Jun/1944, many of whom now rest in the Canadian war cemetery at Beny-sur-Mer, a few kilometres inland, under the quiet shade of Canadian maple trees. May they rest in peace. Looking at the world today and the recent rise of racism, populism, nationalism, protectionism or fascism in many countries, western and non-western, I sometimes fear they died in vain. >> >> And I remember all the members of my extended family who perished in the Holocaust. >> >> Lest we forget. >> >> Peter >> SUFFOLK List Admin. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hello Peter, I too have visited the German war cemeteries in Belgium and France and have been deeply saddened by the depressing nature of the burial plots compared to the immaculate cemeteries of the allies where the roses are replaced every year and cemeteries beautifully maintained. It sorrows me that we can't get over the atrocities of the past and acknowledge that the German soldiers were also just boys going off to war, no different to our men, being manipulated by their generals and used as cannon fodder. They should also be entitled to a decent grave. I visited the burial plot of my gt uncle, Thomas John Schaefer, a German descendant who fought with an Australian battalion. Thomas was killed in Belgium at the age of 19 along with two of his cousins who are buried as unknown soldiers in unmarked Australian graves. At one of the cemeteries I marveled at the irony of two English soldiers buried in the German cemetery in a mass grave along with thousands of German soldiers, simply because the bodies of the Englishmen could not be distinguished from the Germans. The most uplifting part of my visit was to the site of the football match between the Germans and allies on Christmas Day 1914. A cross and numerous footballs, since laid by visitors, are all that mark the spot. On that day in 1914, French, German and British soldiers crossed the trenches to exchange seasonal greetings and talk. Their meetings ended in carol-singing and games of football between the opposing sides. Apparently afterwards, the generals banned any future association between their troops in case they stopped thinking of the Germans as enemies. I think there could have been a learnt a lot from these young men. Maybe if they'd been allowed to play football the war would have been over a lot earlier. Regards Jenny Ellis-Newman ________________________________ From: P. S. Wyant <wyants@sasktel.net> Sent: Sunday, 11 November 2018 2:13 AM To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Subject: [SFK-UK] November 11 Hello, Folks. As we do at this time every year on this List and this year especially (being the 100th anniversary of the WWI Armistice, the 80th anniversary of Kristallnacht, and the 51st anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall), and whether you call it Remembrance Day, Armistice Day or Veterans' Day, please feel free to post your memories of warriors either lost or returned, who served or who are still serving, of any country and any conflict, and of civilians lost because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. I remember my father, Lt.Col. Gordon M. Wyant (b. Günter Maximilian Weiss), who served in the RAMC in WWII, and my uncle, Sgt. Edgar T. Wyant (b. Egon Weiss), who served in Italy with the 849th Signal Infantry Service, U.S. Army. I remember my grandfather's younger brother, Gefr. Arthur Weiss, 87th Reserve Infantry Regiment of Mainz, who was killed near Cernay-en-Dormois, France, on 15 May/1915 (Pesach) fighting for his country. I remember all my Suffolk uncles who served in British forces in WWII. Last year, I tried to find Arthur's grave in three immaculately kept German war cemeteries near Cernay-en-Dormois but could not. Each cemetery also had a mass plot holding hundreds and hundreds of unnamed German war dead from nearby battles of WWI. I can only assume he is resting in one of those. I also stood on Juno Beach and cried, remembering all the Canadians who stormed ashore at that place on 6 Jun/1944, many of whom now rest in the Canadian war cemetery at Beny-sur-Mer, a few kilometres inland, under the quiet shade of Canadian maple trees. May they rest in peace. Looking at the world today and the recent rise of racism, populism, nationalism, protectionism or fascism in many countries, western and non-western, I sometimes fear they died in vain. And I remember all the members of my extended family who perished in the Holocaust. Lest we forget. Peter SUFFOLK List Admin. _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

In remembrance of Harry HURRELL, son of Daniel and Kate Hurrell, of Haygreen Farm, Whepstead, Bury St Edmunds, who died on 23 March 1918, age 29 and is commemorated at Pozieres Memorial. Also, in remembrance of Percy HURRELL, son of Cornelius and Sarah Ann Hurrell of Bolton on Dearne, Rotherham, who died on 14 July 1918, age 23 and is buried at Faubourg D'Amiens Cemetery, Arras. Both cousins of my great grandfather. Jane

In remembrance of Pte Harry Bowyer 2nd Bn Suffolks died of wounds 11-4-1917 aged 23, Husband of Dorothy nee Loveday who were married 31-5-1915. Commerated on Arras Memorial.Enlisted Haverhill Brother to Thomas and George details below $ brothers enlisted Also in remembrance Pte Thomas Bowyer 2nd Bn Suffolks died 13-11-16 aged 21 Brother of Mrs Emily Mayes commerated Thiepval Memorial Somme. Enlisted Haverhill.Also in remembrance of Pte George Bowyer 8th Bn Royal Fusiliers died 6-10-1916  aged 34. Commemorated Bancourt British Cemetery..These three were sons of Elijan and Eliabeth Bowyer of Kedington.Also in remembrance of Pte Frederic William Snell Bowyer 1st/28th Bn London Regiment {Artists Rifles] died 30-9-1918 aged 19 commemorated at Cambrai East Military Cemetery. Son of Frank and Rose A Bowyer of Kirtling Place Newmarket.Finally in remembrance of Pte William Elijah Bradford 8th Bn Royal Fusiliers died 2-7-1917 aged 26 commemorated  at Arras Memorial. Son of Arthur and Ellen Bradford of Great Wratting, husband of Ethel Bradford. He is related to George Bowyer by marriage.A contact of mine went to these cemeteries last week-end to obtain photos and place crosses and poppies where possible of the graves and memorials. Incidentally my grandmother was Ruth Bowyer who was a member of the large number of Bowyers in the Kedington and Great Wratting area.   Regards Bob payne On Sunday, 11 November 2018, 21:04:50 GMT, Jane Milbourne via SUFFOLK <suffolk@rootsweb.com> wrote: In remembrance of Harry HURRELL, son of Daniel and Kate Hurrell, of Haygreen Farm, Whepstead, Bury St Edmunds, who died on 23 March 1918, age 29 and is commemorated at Pozieres Memorial. Also, in remembrance of Percy HURRELL, son of Cornelius and Sarah Ann Hurrell of Bolton on Dearne, Rotherham, who died on 14 July 1918, age 23 and is buried at Faubourg D'Amiens Cemetery, Arras. Both cousins of my great grandfather. Jane _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community