Hello Marj, Thank you so much for taking the time to reply. As you say so many questions!!! I agree with your thoughts concerning the interpretation of Thornah as Thomas and I must go down to the Suffolk Record Office and look at the actual register again. I made my notes a few years ago before the Suffolk Burial Index was available and recorded the death as Thomas - as does the SBI. However, we both may have misinterpreted the minister's writing! Robert & Mary Ann Gant actually had 16 children and Thornah was number 15, so they had a bit of practice at registration! I realise that in some cases there is confusion medically over the sex of a child at birth, but this child's birth was registered after its death as a boy and then a week later the death was registered as a female. It really puzzles me why the birth and death were not registered at the same time on 24 November 1885. I too wondered if the child was born deformed, causing confusion, but the cause of death is given as Stomatitis which according to Wikipedia is an inflammation of the mouth. No other cause is given. Robert and Mary Ann GANT were Methodists and had most of their children christened at the Methodist chapel in the village. However, christenings there seem to have taken place in batches (perhaps due to availability of circuit minister?) and poor Thornah seems to have died at too early an age to have been christened. They did have a son Thomas (child number 10), born 5 August 1877. He survived into adulthood, dying at the age of 69 in March Qtr.1947 I appreciate you suggestion about viewing the original entries to see if there was a transcription error. However, not having done this before, I'm not sure of the procedure. Do you know if they would still be held at a registry office in Suffolk? Again, many thanks for your thoughts. Best wishes, Kevin -----Original Message----- From: suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mcculley Sent: 04 February 2008 01:40 To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] Thornah GANT of Elmsett Hi Kevin You certainly have a puzzle here! The only thing I could come up with was that Thurmah could definitely be interpreted as Thomas.(Join r and n and high upward stroke on the S) However when I looked up the family I found that there was already a Thomas aged 3 in 1881 and 13 in 1891. Also there was a girl called Thirza in another Gant family in the same village. So, unusual names may have been the go at that time. I had a thought that Mary Ann, being illiterate, did not know about the registration process and husband may have been away working, but she had at least 6 other children so would know the procedure. She also lived near many relatives so I would have thought if she was very ill after the birth someone else could have done the paper work. Would you not think the doctor would know if it was a boy or a girl? The fact that it died very young do you suppose it had an abnormality of some kind? I have one or two ancestors who were baptized posthumously after death. Could this be a factor? Maybe James Matthew was not a very "smart" registrar or left town for a while in between the dates of birth and death? Can you see the original entries to see if there is a transcription error? Well, I have asked more questions and given no answers but just to let you know I have been thinking about this strange one. Hopefully someone with more experience will have a brain wave! Marj. -----Original Message----- From: suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Scott Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2008 9:56 PM To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Subject: [SFK-UK] Thornah GANT of Elmsett This is a strange one - I would appreciate any lister's thoughts! In trying to identify all the GANT family of Elmsett, I have just received copies of the birth and death certificates of Thornah GANT who sadly lived for only four weeks in 1885. The birth certificate (Cosford 4a p.653) When & where born -16 October 1885, Elmsett RSD Name - Thornah Sex - BOY Father - Robert GANT Mother - Mary Ann GANT, formerly HISKEY Occupation of father - Agricultural Labourer Signature of informant - X the mark of Mary Ann GANT, mother, Elmsett. When registered - 24 November 1885 Registrar - James MATTHEW The death certificate (Cosford 4a p.383) When & where died - 13 November 1885, Elmsett RSD Name - Thornah GANT Sex - FEMALE Age - 4 weeks Occupation - DAUGHTER of Robert Gant an agricultural labourer Cause of death - Stomatitis, certified by J.C. NORMAN MRCS Signature of informant - X the mark of Mary Ann GANT, mother, present at death, Elmsett When registered - 1 December 1885 Registrar - James MATTHEW So, Thornah GANT is recorded as a boy at birth and as female upon death! Is this a case of confusion of sex at birth or simply an error? To add to the confusion the Elmsett burial register records the child as Thomas Gant, buried 17 November 1885, infant. Does anyone know if THORNAH was usually a male or female name? Why would the mother register the birth on 24 November (11 days after the death) and not register the death until 1st December? This one has me puzzled! - Any thoughts appreciated. 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Its a very useful resource You have to enter at least a surname, select the gender, and year (which can be +/- 2 years) But once you get the hang of it, its very easy to use A couple of notes, ages at death for infants can be 1 rather than zero And the transcriptions are far from perfect (like all transcriptions) So do keep an open mind when searching You can select variations for names but it does slow down the search You can enter the registration district, if known The PDFs are usually available after a few days (they send an email to tell you when its available) the image is the centre part of the original registration, so contains all you would get from a paper cert, only much cheaper Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 13/04/2019 17:33, Steve Barber via SUFFOLK wrote: > That is really good to know to avoid applying for certificates and spending money for the wrong person! > Steve
Hi Kevin: Poor Mary Ann - 15 living children. I wonder how she ever fed them all on the wage of an agricultural labourer. I am sorry I do not know where you would go to find the original copies. I have always found the people at the Bury St Edmunds records office to be extremely helpful, when I have emailed them from Australia with a query. I am sure someone else on the list could lead you in the right direction. Good luck with your research. Let us know if you ever solve this puzzle! Regards Marj. P.S. Poor little Thornah must have actually starved to death. If "her" mouth was full of ulcers and inflamed she would not have been able to drink. I expect it is what a layman would call infant thrush. -----Original Message----- From: suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Scott Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2008 6:37 AM To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] Thornah GANT of Elmsett Hello Marj, Thank you so much for taking the time to reply. As you say so many questions!!! I agree with your thoughts concerning the interpretation of Thornah as Thomas and I must go down to the Suffolk Record Office and look at the actual register again. I made my notes a few years ago before the Suffolk Burial Index was available and recorded the death as Thomas - as does the SBI. However, we both may have misinterpreted the minister's writing! Robert & Mary Ann Gant actually had 16 children and Thornah was number 15, so they had a bit of practice at registration! I realise that in some cases there is confusion medically over the sex of a child at birth, but this child's birth was registered after its death as a boy and then a week later the death was registered as a female. It really puzzles me why the birth and death were not registered at the same time on 24 November 1885. I too wondered if the child was born deformed, causing confusion, but the cause of death is given as Stomatitis which according to Wikipedia is an inflammation of the mouth. No other cause is given. Robert and Mary Ann GANT were Methodists and had most of their children christened at the Methodist chapel in the village. However, christenings there seem to have taken place in batches (perhaps due to availability of circuit minister?) and poor Thornah seems to have died at too early an age to have been christened. They did have a son Thomas (child number 10), born 5 August 1877. He survived into adulthood, dying at the age of 69 in March Qtr.1947 I appreciate you suggestion about viewing the original entries to see if there was a transcription error. However, not having done this before, I'm not sure of the procedure. Do you know if they would still be held at a registry office in Suffolk? Again, many thanks for your thoughts. Best wishes, Kevin -----Original Message----- From: suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mcculley Sent: 04 February 2008 01:40 To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] Thornah GANT of Elmsett Hi Kevin You certainly have a puzzle here! The only thing I could come up with was that Thurmah could definitely be interpreted as Thomas.(Join r and n and high upward stroke on the S) However when I looked up the family I found that there was already a Thomas aged 3 in 1881 and 13 in 1891. Also there was a girl called Thirza in another Gant family in the same village. So, unusual names may have been the go at that time. I had a thought that Mary Ann, being illiterate, did not know about the registration process and husband may have been away working, but she had at least 6 other children so would know the procedure. She also lived near many relatives so I would have thought if she was very ill after the birth someone else could have done the paper work. Would you not think the doctor would know if it was a boy or a girl? The fact that it died very young do you suppose it had an abnormality of some kind? I have one or two ancestors who were baptized posthumously after death. Could this be a factor? Maybe James Matthew was not a very "smart" registrar or left town for a while in between the dates of birth and death? Can you see the original entries to see if there is a transcription error? Well, I have asked more questions and given no answers but just to let you know I have been thinking about this strange one. Hopefully someone with more experience will have a brain wave! Marj. -----Original Message----- From: suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Scott Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2008 9:56 PM To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Subject: [SFK-UK] Thornah GANT of Elmsett This is a strange one - I would appreciate any lister's thoughts! In trying to identify all the GANT family of Elmsett, I have just received copies of the birth and death certificates of Thornah GANT who sadly lived for only four weeks in 1885. The birth certificate (Cosford 4a p.653) When & where born -16 October 1885, Elmsett RSD Name - Thornah Sex - BOY Father - Robert GANT Mother - Mary Ann GANT, formerly HISKEY Occupation of father - Agricultural Labourer Signature of informant - X the mark of Mary Ann GANT, mother, Elmsett. When registered - 24 November 1885 Registrar - James MATTHEW The death certificate (Cosford 4a p.383) When & where died - 13 November 1885, Elmsett RSD Name - Thornah GANT Sex - FEMALE Age - 4 weeks Occupation - DAUGHTER of Robert Gant an agricultural labourer Cause of death - Stomatitis, certified by J.C. NORMAN MRCS Signature of informant - X the mark of Mary Ann GANT, mother, present at death, Elmsett When registered - 1 December 1885 Registrar - James MATTHEW So, Thornah GANT is recorded as a boy at birth and as female upon death! Is this a case of confusion of sex at birth or simply an error? To add to the confusion the Elmsett burial register records the child as Thomas Gant, buried 17 November 1885, infant. Does anyone know if THORNAH was usually a male or female name? Why would the mother register the birth on 24 November (11 days after the death) and not register the death until 1st December? This one has me puzzled! - Any thoughts appreciated. 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Hello Kevin Scott or anyone else who is following this thread. I am descended from Robert Gant & Mary Ann Hiskey. I am the grand-daughter of Thomas Gant (born 5.8.1877) who is mentioned above. He died three weeks after I was born. My investigations have revealed 13 children - the first being twin daughters, Ann Maria and Mary Ann - born and died in 1863. The last birth of which I was aware was Jane, born in 1887. 15 children are mentioned in the thread. I was not aware of Thornah but a daughter, Leah, was born in 1885. She lived to adulthood - I actually met her once. I wonder if she was a twin to Thornah. I would also be interested to have details of the other child who brought the total to 15. I would be interested to have any further information to add to my own - Christine Woodall
Hello Christine The vast family of Gants are related distantly to me through their ancestress Hannah Rudland. I’ve managed to find 14 children , but a twin, Mary Ann would make 15. According to my records, Leah b.1882 d 1883. Most of the children married and had several children of their own. Thomas married Rosalind Finch and appears to have had five children, who mostly remained in the South Suffolk, North East Essex area. Regards, Steve Barber > On 9 Apr 2019, at 20:31, christine.woodall@hotmail.co.uk wrote: > > Hello Kevin Scott or anyone else who is following this thread. I am descended from Robert Gant & Mary Ann Hiskey. I am the grand-daughter of Thomas Gant (born 5.8.1877) who is mentioned above. He died three weeks after I was born. My investigations have revealed 13 children - the first being twin daughters, Ann Maria and Mary Ann - born and died in 1863. The last birth of which I was aware was Jane, born in 1887. 15 children are mentioned in the thread. I was not aware of Thornah but a daughter, Leah, was born in 1885. She lived to adulthood - I actually met her once. I wonder if she was a twin to Thornah. I would also be interested to have details of the other child who brought the total to 15. I would be interested to have any further information to add to my own - Christine Woodall > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
I am not related to the Gants and can't add anything specific to your request other than a question. The time frame is in the 1800's and covered by the GRO indexes. Have you checked the new GRO indexes that gives the mother's maiden name from 1837 onwards It can certainly identify specific births where there may be multiple choices. Hope that helps. Mel smith On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 at 14:09, Steve Barber via SUFFOLK <suffolk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hello Christine > > The vast family of Gants are related distantly to me through their > ancestress Hannah Rudland. I’ve managed to find 14 children , but a twin, > Mary Ann would make 15. According to my records, Leah b.1882 d 1883. Most > of the children married and had several children of their own. Thomas > married Rosalind Finch and appears to have had five children, who mostly > remained in the South Suffolk, North East Essex area. > Regards, Steve Barber > > > On 9 Apr 2019, at 20:31, christine.woodall@hotmail.co.uk wrote: > > > > Hello Kevin Scott or anyone else who is following this thread. I am > descended from Robert Gant & Mary Ann Hiskey. I am the grand-daughter of > Thomas Gant (born 5.8.1877) who is mentioned above. He died three weeks > after I was born. My investigations have revealed 13 children - the first > being twin daughters, Ann Maria and Mary Ann - born and died in 1863. The > last birth of which I was aware was Jane, born in 1887. 15 children are > mentioned in the thread. I was not aware of Thornah but a daughter, Leah, > was born in 1885. She lived to adulthood - I actually met her once. I > wonder if she was a twin to Thornah. I would also be interested to have > details of the other child who brought the total to 15. I would be > interested to have any further information to add to my own - Christine > Woodall > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Mel Smith Whitby, Ontario, Canada
Hello Steve I quite agree with the description, vast, where my Gant ancestors are concerned! Leah was born in 1883. She married a Charles Spall and died in Ipswich in 1962. She lived in Silent Street in Ipswich when I visited her with my parents. The visit would have been sometime in the mid 1950’s I think. Record keeping does not seem to have been as accurate in days gone by, hence the confusion concerning Thornah Gant! The children of Robert & Mary Ann Gant who survived to adulthood did indeed have large families. I never knew my Grandfather, Thomas, but his wife (she was Roselinda Finch) lived well into her nineties. She and Thomas had eight children, all of whom survived. They are as follows:- John Robert – born 1900 – died 1960 Jenny Stella – born 1902 – died 1999 Frederick Arthur – born 1904 – died 1997 Melissa Maud – born 1907 – died 1977 (my mother) Frank Thomas – born 1909 – died 1950 Hilda Mary – born 1912 – died 2000 Ruby Gertrude – born 1914 – died 2014 (having reached her 100th birthday) George Edward – born 1917 – died 1983 John (known as Jack) had a daughter Jenny had a son Melissa had me Frank had a son and daughter Ruby had two daughters and one son. My mother was the only one who moved away from Suffolk/Essex. She was in service and her employers moved to Portsmouth at the start of the Second World War. She moved with them, met my father and never returned to live in Suffolk. My parents had me late in life, being in their late forties/thirties. I attach a photo of the grave of Thomas and Roselinda in Brantham Churchyard. I do have other family photos if you would be interested. Although the last of Thomas and Roselindas’ children died in 2014 and some of their grandchildren have also died, myself and four other grandchildren still remain and the name of Gant is being carried on by Frank’s son, Richard and one of his sons, both of whom as equally interested in ancestry research. I would be interested to hear more of where you fit into the family tree. Thank you for responding to my post. Christine Woodall Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 ________________________________ From: Steve Barber via SUFFOLK <suffolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 7:06:19 PM To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Cc: Steve Barber Subject: [SFK-UK] Re: Thornah GANT of Elmsett Hello Christine The vast family of Gants are related distantly to me through their ancestress Hannah Rudland. I’ve managed to find 14 children , but a twin, Mary Ann would make 15. According to my records, Leah b.1882 d 1883. Most of the children married and had several children of their own. Thomas married Rosalind Finch and appears to have had five children, who mostly remained in the South Suffolk, North East Essex area. Regards, Steve Barber > On 9 Apr 2019, at 20:31, christine.woodall@hotmail.co.uk wrote: > > Hello Kevin Scott or anyone else who is following this thread. I am descended from Robert Gant & Mary Ann Hiskey. I am the grand-daughter of Thomas Gant (born 5.8.1877) who is mentioned above. He died three weeks after I was born. My investigations have revealed 13 children - the first being twin daughters, Ann Maria and Mary Ann - born and died in 1863. The last birth of which I was aware was Jane, born in 1887. 15 children are mentioned in the thread. I was not aware of Thornah but a daughter, Leah, was born in 1885. She lived to adulthood - I actually met her once. I wonder if she was a twin to Thornah. I would also be interested to have details of the other child who brought the total to 15. I would be interested to have any further information to add to my own - Christine Woodall > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Hi Christine I see on FREEBMD that there was a Leah who was b.and d.1883, and another Leah b.1884. I will try to get to the Suffolk Records Office in either Ipswich or Bury to look at Elmsett baptisms, to help confirm whether these were both children of Robet Gant and Mary Ann Hiskey. You asked about my somewhat distant connection. Robert Gant 1841-1896 was son of Robert Gant 1813-1895 and Eliza Holder. Robert’s parents were Robert Percy and Sarah Gant (they were not married and he also fathered a child by Sarah’s sister Ann!) Sarah went on to marry Jeremiah Welham and lived at Raydon. Sarah Gant 1788-1860 was the daughter of Samuel Gant and Hannah Rudland 1759-1820. Hannah was b.at <http://b.at/> Groton and moved to Barking, Suffolk. Her parents, Samuel Rudland and Sarah Griggs were also parents of my ancestor, Samuel Rudland 1745-1786, who married Mary Halls. Their daughter, Mary Rudland 1770-1834 who married John Griggs and they were my direct ancestors. My great grandmother was a Harriet Griggs born at Groton but lived her married life at Dovercourt. My email is seasidetigger@yahoo.co.uk <mailto:seasidetigger@yahoo.co.uk> which may be easier for sharing photos. Regards, Steve > On 10 Apr 2019, at 19:51, Christine Woodall <christine.woodall@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > > Hello Steve > > > > I quite agree with the description, vast, where my Gant ancestors are concerned! > > > > Leah was born in 1883. She married a Charles Spall and died in Ipswich in 1962. She lived in Silent Street in Ipswich when I visited her with my parents. The visit would have been sometime in the mid 1950’s I think. Record keeping does not seem to have been as accurate in days gone by, hence the confusion concerning Thornah Gant! > > > > The children of Robert & Mary Ann Gant who survived to adulthood did indeed have large families. > > > > I never knew my Grandfather, Thomas, but his wife (she was Roselinda Finch) lived well into her nineties. She and Thomas had eight children, all of whom survived. They are as follows:- > > > > John Robert – born 1900 – died 1960 > > > > Jenny Stella – born 1902 – died 1999 > > > > Frederick Arthur – born 1904 – died 1997 > > > > Melissa Maud – born 1907 – died 1977 (my mother) > > > > Frank Thomas – born 1909 – died 1950 > > > > Hilda Mary – born 1912 – died 2000 > > > > Ruby Gertrude – born 1914 – died 2014 (having reached her 100th birthday) > > > > George Edward – born 1917 – died 1983 > > > > John (known as Jack) had a daughter > > > > Jenny had a son > > > > Melissa had me > > > > Frank had a son and daughter > > > > Ruby had two daughters and one son. > > > > My mother was the only one who moved away from Suffolk/Essex. She was in service and her employers moved to Portsmouth at the start of the Second World War. She moved with them, met my father and never returned to live in Suffolk. My parents had me late in life, being in their late forties/thirties. > > > > I attach a photo of the grave of Thomas and Roselinda in Brantham Churchyard. I do have other family photos if you would be interested. Although the last of Thomas and Roselindas’ children died in 2014 and some of their grandchildren have also died, myself and four other grandchildren still remain and the name of Gant is being carried on by Frank’s son, Richard and one of his sons, both of whom as equally interested in ancestry research. > > > > I would be interested to hear more of where you fit into the family tree. > > > > Thank you for responding to my post. > > > > > > Christine Woodall > > > > > > > > Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 > > > > ________________________________ > From: Steve Barber via SUFFOLK <suffolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 7:06:19 PM > To: suffolk@rootsweb.com > Cc: Steve Barber > Subject: [SFK-UK] Re: Thornah GANT of Elmsett > > Hello Christine > > The vast family of Gants are related distantly to me through their ancestress Hannah Rudland. I’ve managed to find 14 children , but a twin, Mary Ann would make 15. According to my records, Leah b.1882 d 1883. Most of the children married and had several children of their own. Thomas married Rosalind Finch and appears to have had five children, who mostly remained in the South Suffolk, North East Essex area. > Regards, Steve Barber > >> On 9 Apr 2019, at 20:31, christine.woodall@hotmail.co.uk wrote: >> >> Hello Kevin Scott or anyone else who is following this thread. I am descended from Robert Gant & Mary Ann Hiskey. I am the grand-daughter of Thomas Gant (born 5.8.1877) who is mentioned above. He died three weeks after I was born. My investigations have revealed 13 children - the first being twin daughters, Ann Maria and Mary Ann - born and died in 1863. The last birth of which I was aware was Jane, born in 1887. 15 children are mentioned in the thread. I was not aware of Thornah but a daughter, Leah, was born in 1885. She lived to adulthood - I actually met her once. I wonder if she was a twin to Thornah. I would also be interested to have details of the other child who brought the total to 15. 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Steve You don't have to go to the office. In both instances the online gro index's show the mother's maiden name as HISKEY Mel On Fri., Apr. 12, 2019, 9:58 p.m. Steve Barber via SUFFOLK, < suffolk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi Christine > I see on FREEBMD that there was a Leah who was b.and d.1883, and another > Leah b.1884. > > I will try to get to the Suffolk Records Office in either Ipswich or Bury > to look at Elmsett baptisms, to help confirm whether these were both > children of Robet Gant and Mary Ann Hiskey. > > You asked about my somewhat distant connection. > > Robert Gant 1841-1896 was son of Robert Gant 1813-1895 and Eliza Holder. > > Robert’s parents were Robert Percy and Sarah Gant (they were not married > and he also fathered a child by Sarah’s sister Ann!) > Sarah went on to marry Jeremiah Welham and lived at Raydon. > > Sarah Gant 1788-1860 was the daughter of Samuel Gant and Hannah Rudland > 1759-1820. > > Hannah was b.at <http://b.at/> Groton and moved to Barking, Suffolk. > > Her parents, Samuel Rudland and Sarah Griggs were also parents of my > ancestor, Samuel Rudland 1745-1786, who married Mary Halls. > > Their daughter, Mary Rudland 1770-1834 who married John Griggs and they > were my direct ancestors. My great grandmother was a Harriet Griggs born at > Groton but lived her married life at Dovercourt. > > My email is seasidetigger@yahoo.co.uk <mailto:seasidetigger@yahoo.co.uk> > which may be easier for sharing photos. > > Regards, Steve > > > On 10 Apr 2019, at 19:51, Christine Woodall < > christine.woodall@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > > > > Hello Steve > > > > > > > > I quite agree with the description, vast, where my Gant ancestors are > concerned! > > > > > > > > Leah was born in 1883. She married a Charles Spall and died in Ipswich > in 1962. She lived in Silent Street in Ipswich when I visited her with my > parents. The visit would have been sometime in the mid 1950’s I think. > Record keeping does not seem to have been as accurate in days gone by, > hence the confusion concerning Thornah Gant! > > > > > > > > The children of Robert & Mary Ann Gant who survived to adulthood did > indeed have large families. > > > > > > > > I never knew my Grandfather, Thomas, but his wife (she was Roselinda > Finch) lived well into her nineties. She and Thomas had eight children, > all of whom survived. They are as follows:- > > > > > > > > John Robert – born 1900 – died 1960 > > > > > > > > Jenny Stella – born 1902 – died 1999 > > > > > > > > Frederick Arthur – born 1904 – died 1997 > > > > > > > > Melissa Maud – born 1907 – died 1977 (my mother) > > > > > > > > Frank Thomas – born 1909 – died 1950 > > > > > > > > Hilda Mary – born 1912 – died 2000 > > > > > > > > Ruby Gertrude – born 1914 – died 2014 (having reached her 100th > birthday) > > > > > > > > George Edward – born 1917 – died 1983 > > > > > > > > John (known as Jack) had a daughter > > > > > > > > Jenny had a son > > > > > > > > Melissa had me > > > > > > > > Frank had a son and daughter > > > > > > > > Ruby had two daughters and one son. > > > > > > > > My mother was the only one who moved away from Suffolk/Essex. She was > in service and her employers moved to Portsmouth at the start of the Second > World War. She moved with them, met my father and never returned to live > in Suffolk. My parents had me late in life, being in their late > forties/thirties. > > > > > > > > I attach a photo of the grave of Thomas and Roselinda in Brantham > Churchyard. I do have other family photos if you would be interested. > Although the last of Thomas and Roselindas’ children died in 2014 and some > of their grandchildren have also died, myself and four other grandchildren > still remain and the name of Gant is being carried on by Frank’s son, > Richard and one of his sons, both of whom as equally interested in ancestry > research. > > > > > > > > I would be interested to hear more of where you fit into the family tree. > > > > > > > > Thank you for responding to my post. > > > > > > > > > > > > Christine Woodall > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Steve Barber via SUFFOLK <suffolk@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 7:06:19 PM > > To: suffolk@rootsweb.com > > Cc: Steve Barber > > Subject: [SFK-UK] Re: Thornah GANT of Elmsett > > > > Hello Christine > > > > The vast family of Gants are related distantly to me through their > ancestress Hannah Rudland. I’ve managed to find 14 children , but a twin, > Mary Ann would make 15. According to my records, Leah b.1882 d 1883. Most > of the children married and had several children of their own. Thomas > married Rosalind Finch and appears to have had five children, who mostly > remained in the South Suffolk, North East Essex area. > > Regards, Steve Barber > > > >> On 9 Apr 2019, at 20:31, christine.woodall@hotmail.co.uk wrote: > >> > >> Hello Kevin Scott or anyone else who is following this thread. I am > descended from Robert Gant & Mary Ann Hiskey. I am the grand-daughter of > Thomas Gant (born 5.8.1877) who is mentioned above. He died three weeks > after I was born. My investigations have revealed 13 children - the first > being twin daughters, Ann Maria and Mary Ann - born and died in 1863. The > last birth of which I was aware was Jane, born in 1887. 15 children are > mentioned in the thread. I was not aware of Thornah but a daughter, Leah, > was born in 1885. She lived to adulthood - I actually met her once. I > wonder if she was a twin to Thornah. I would also be interested to have > details of the other child who brought the total to 15. I would be > interested to have any further information to add to my own - Christine > Woodall > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >> Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >
I didn't realise that the mothers maiden name was available before 1911. So thank you for that information. Steve Sent from my iPhone > On 13 Apr 2019, at 12:43, Mel Smith <melvynsmith@gmail.com> wrote: > > Steve > You don't have to go to the office. > In both instances the online gro index's show the mother's maiden name as > HISKEY > > Mel > > On Fri., Apr. 12, 2019, 9:58 p.m. Steve Barber via SUFFOLK, < > suffolk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> Hi Christine >> I see on FREEBMD that there was a Leah who was b.and d.1883, and another >> Leah b.1884. >> >> I will try to get to the Suffolk Records Office in either Ipswich or Bury >> to look at Elmsett baptisms, to help confirm whether these were both >> children of Robet Gant and Mary Ann Hiskey. >> >> You asked about my somewhat distant connection. >> >> Robert Gant 1841-1896 was son of Robert Gant 1813-1895 and Eliza Holder. >> >> Robert’s parents were Robert Percy and Sarah Gant (they were not married >> and he also fathered a child by Sarah’s sister Ann!) >> Sarah went on to marry Jeremiah Welham and lived at Raydon. >> >> Sarah Gant 1788-1860 was the daughter of Samuel Gant and Hannah Rudland >> 1759-1820. >> >> Hannah was b.at <http://b.at/> Groton and moved to Barking, Suffolk. >> >> Her parents, Samuel Rudland and Sarah Griggs were also parents of my >> ancestor, Samuel Rudland 1745-1786, who married Mary Halls. >> >> Their daughter, Mary Rudland 1770-1834 who married John Griggs and they >> were my direct ancestors. My great grandmother was a Harriet Griggs born at >> Groton but lived her married life at Dovercourt. >> >> My email is seasidetigger@yahoo.co.uk <mailto:seasidetigger@yahoo.co.uk> >> which may be easier for sharing photos. >> >> Regards, Steve >> >>> On 10 Apr 2019, at 19:51, Christine Woodall < >> christine.woodall@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Steve >>> >>> >>> >>> I quite agree with the description, vast, where my Gant ancestors are >> concerned! >>> >>> >>> >>> Leah was born in 1883. She married a Charles Spall and died in Ipswich >> in 1962. She lived in Silent Street in Ipswich when I visited her with my >> parents. The visit would have been sometime in the mid 1950’s I think. >> Record keeping does not seem to have been as accurate in days gone by, >> hence the confusion concerning Thornah Gant! >>> >>> >>> >>> The children of Robert & Mary Ann Gant who survived to adulthood did >> indeed have large families. >>> >>> >>> >>> I never knew my Grandfather, Thomas, but his wife (she was Roselinda >> Finch) lived well into her nineties. She and Thomas had eight children, >> all of whom survived. They are as follows:- >>> >>> >>> >>> John Robert – born 1900 – died 1960 >>> >>> >>> >>> Jenny Stella – born 1902 – died 1999 >>> >>> >>> >>> Frederick Arthur – born 1904 – died 1997 >>> >>> >>> >>> Melissa Maud – born 1907 – died 1977 (my mother) >>> >>> >>> >>> Frank Thomas – born 1909 – died 1950 >>> >>> >>> >>> Hilda Mary – born 1912 – died 2000 >>> >>> >>> >>> Ruby Gertrude – born 1914 – died 2014 (having reached her 100th >> birthday) >>> >>> >>> >>> George Edward – born 1917 – died 1983 >>> >>> >>> >>> John (known as Jack) had a daughter >>> >>> >>> >>> Jenny had a son >>> >>> >>> >>> Melissa had me >>> >>> >>> >>> Frank had a son and daughter >>> >>> >>> >>> Ruby had two daughters and one son. >>> >>> >>> >>> My mother was the only one who moved away from Suffolk/Essex. She was >> in service and her employers moved to Portsmouth at the start of the Second >> World War. She moved with them, met my father and never returned to live >> in Suffolk. My parents had me late in life, being in their late >> forties/thirties. >>> >>> >>> >>> I attach a photo of the grave of Thomas and Roselinda in Brantham >> Churchyard. I do have other family photos if you would be interested. >> Although the last of Thomas and Roselindas’ children died in 2014 and some >> of their grandchildren have also died, myself and four other grandchildren >> still remain and the name of Gant is being carried on by Frank’s son, >> Richard and one of his sons, both of whom as equally interested in ancestry >> research. >>> >>> >>> >>> I would be interested to hear more of where you fit into the family tree. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank you for responding to my post. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Christine Woodall >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for >> Windows 10 >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Steve Barber via SUFFOLK <suffolk@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 7:06:19 PM >>> To: suffolk@rootsweb.com >>> Cc: Steve Barber >>> Subject: [SFK-UK] Re: Thornah GANT of Elmsett >>> >>> Hello Christine >>> >>> The vast family of Gants are related distantly to me through their >> ancestress Hannah Rudland. I’ve managed to find 14 children , but a twin, >> Mary Ann would make 15. According to my records, Leah b.1882 d 1883. Most >> of the children married and had several children of their own. Thomas >> married Rosalind Finch and appears to have had five children, who mostly >> remained in the South Suffolk, North East Essex area. >>> Regards, Steve Barber >>> >>>> On 9 Apr 2019, at 20:31, christine.woodall@hotmail.co.uk wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello Kevin Scott or anyone else who is following this thread. I am >> descended from Robert Gant & Mary Ann Hiskey. I am the grand-daughter of >> Thomas Gant (born 5.8.1877) who is mentioned above. He died three weeks >> after I was born. My investigations have revealed 13 children - the first >> being twin daughters, Ann Maria and Mary Ann - born and died in 1863. The >> last birth of which I was aware was Jane, born in 1887. 15 children are >> mentioned in the thread. I was not aware of Thornah but a daughter, Leah, >> was born in 1885. She lived to adulthood - I actually met her once. I >> wonder if she was a twin to Thornah. I would also be interested to have >> details of the other child who brought the total to 15. I would be >> interested to have any further information to add to my own - Christine >> Woodall >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>>> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com >>>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Its been available for some time In the GROs own indexes (same site where you order certificates) Births have mothers maiden name from 1837 onwards (now up to 1918 on the GRO site) Also deaths have age at death from 1837 to 1957 PDF copies are available at £7 The indexes are from the ill fated DOVE project Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 13/04/2019 16:58, Steve Barber via SUFFOLK wrote: > I didn't realise that the mothers maiden name was available before 1911. So thank you for that information. Steve
That is really good to know to avoid applying for certificates and spending money for the wrong person! Steve Sent from my iPhone > On 13 Apr 2019, at 17:03, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > > Its been available for some time > > In the GROs own indexes (same site where you order certificates) > > Births have mothers maiden name from 1837 onwards (now up to 1918 on the GRO site) > > Also deaths have age at death from 1837 to 1957 > > PDF copies are available at £7 > > The indexes are from the ill fated DOVE project > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >> On 13/04/2019 16:58, Steve Barber via SUFFOLK wrote: >> I didn't realise that the mothers maiden name was available before 1911. So thank you for that information. Steve > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Hello Steve I know that some people did give a child the same name as a previous child who died in infancy so perhaps that is what happened in the case of Leah. I would be most interested to hear the result of any visit you can make to the Records Office. I live in Portsmouth so have to do my enquiries on-line. I would also be interested to know if you discover a full address for Robert Gant and Mary Ann Hiskey. The Census Reports just say Elmsett. Thanks for explaining your own connection. During the course of my research, I have made contact with a few other distant relations and one of them told me about the Robert Percy/Ann Gant/Sarah Gant triangle! Worth of the Jeremy Kyle Show were it to happen today! I do not seem to have details of Sarah’s subsequent marriage to Jeremiah Welham though. I had been under the impression that Robert had been married to one of the Gant sisters whilst having an affair with the other. Thanks to the hard work of one of the distant relations, I can tell you that we are all descended from Francis & Johanna Gant whose first child was born in 1682. The lady who did the hard work sent me a 30 page document of Gant descendants which I would be happy to forward to you if you would be interested. I have not read it all myself, just dipped in from time to time. You may well be included in it! I will have to take a look! I have so many notes of so many different branches that I really must get it into some sort of order. Matter are not made easier by the fact that there were such big families and the same names crop up over and over again. I have made a note of your e-mail address and will send a couple of photos of my maternal grandparents with some of their large family. From what I have found out so far, some of the Gant stories are equal to anything on WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE! I am finding it all fascinating, as are my Gant cousins. Best wishes Christine Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 ________________________________ From: Steve Barber via SUFFOLK <suffolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 10:56:21 PM To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Cc: Steve Barber Subject: [SFK-UK] Re: Thornah GANT of Elmsett Hi Christine I see on FREEBMD that there was a Leah who was b.and d.1883, and another Leah b.1884. I will try to get to the Suffolk Records Office in either Ipswich or Bury to look at Elmsett baptisms, to help confirm whether these were both children of Robet Gant and Mary Ann Hiskey. You asked about my somewhat distant connection. Robert Gant 1841-1896 was son of Robert Gant 1813-1895 and Eliza Holder. Robert’s parents were Robert Percy and Sarah Gant (they were not married and he also fathered a child by Sarah’s sister Ann!) Sarah went on to marry Jeremiah Welham and lived at Raydon. Sarah Gant 1788-1860 was the daughter of Samuel Gant and Hannah Rudland 1759-1820. Hannah was b.at <http://b.at/> Groton and moved to Barking, Suffolk. Her parents, Samuel Rudland and Sarah Griggs were also parents of my ancestor, Samuel Rudland 1745-1786, who married Mary Halls. Their daughter, Mary Rudland 1770-1834 who married John Griggs and they were my direct ancestors. My great grandmother was a Harriet Griggs born at Groton but lived her married life at Dovercourt. My email is seasidetigger@yahoo.co.uk <mailto:seasidetigger@yahoo.co.uk> which may be easier for sharing photos. Regards, Steve > On 10 Apr 2019, at 19:51, Christine Woodall <christine.woodall@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > > Hello Steve > > > > I quite agree with the description, vast, where my Gant ancestors are concerned! > > > > Leah was born in 1883. She married a Charles Spall and died in Ipswich in 1962. She lived in Silent Street in Ipswich when I visited her with my parents. The visit would have been sometime in the mid 1950’s I think. Record keeping does not seem to have been as accurate in days gone by, hence the confusion concerning Thornah Gant! > > > > The children of Robert & Mary Ann Gant who survived to adulthood did indeed have large families. > > > > I never knew my Grandfather, Thomas, but his wife (she was Roselinda Finch) lived well into her nineties. She and Thomas had eight children, all of whom survived. They are as follows:- > > > > John Robert – born 1900 – died 1960 > > > > Jenny Stella – born 1902 – died 1999 > > > > Frederick Arthur – born 1904 – died 1997 > > > > Melissa Maud – born 1907 – died 1977 (my mother) > > > > Frank Thomas – born 1909 – died 1950 > > > > Hilda Mary – born 1912 – died 2000 > > > > Ruby Gertrude – born 1914 – died 2014 (having reached her 100th birthday) > > > > George Edward – born 1917 – died 1983 > > > > John (known as Jack) had a daughter > > > > Jenny had a son > > > > Melissa had me > > > > Frank had a son and daughter > > > > Ruby had two daughters and one son. > > > > My mother was the only one who moved away from Suffolk/Essex. She was in service and her employers moved to Portsmouth at the start of the Second World War. She moved with them, met my father and never returned to live in Suffolk. My parents had me late in life, being in their late forties/thirties. > > > > I attach a photo of the grave of Thomas and Roselinda in Brantham Churchyard. I do have other family photos if you would be interested. Although the last of Thomas and Roselindas’ children died in 2014 and some of their grandchildren have also died, myself and four other grandchildren still remain and the name of Gant is being carried on by Frank’s son, Richard and one of his sons, both of whom as equally interested in ancestry research. > > > > I would be interested to hear more of where you fit into the family tree. > > > > Thank you for responding to my post. > > > > > > Christine Woodall > > > > > > > > Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 > > > > ________________________________ > From: Steve Barber via SUFFOLK <suffolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 7:06:19 PM > To: suffolk@rootsweb.com > Cc: Steve Barber > Subject: [SFK-UK] Re: Thornah GANT of Elmsett > > Hello Christine > > The vast family of Gants are related distantly to me through their ancestress Hannah Rudland. I’ve managed to find 14 children , but a twin, Mary Ann would make 15. According to my records, Leah b.1882 d 1883. Most of the children married and had several children of their own. Thomas married Rosalind Finch and appears to have had five children, who mostly remained in the South Suffolk, North East Essex area. > Regards, Steve Barber > >> On 9 Apr 2019, at 20:31, christine.woodall@hotmail.co.uk wrote: >> >> Hello Kevin Scott or anyone else who is following this thread. I am descended from Robert Gant & Mary Ann Hiskey. I am the grand-daughter of Thomas Gant (born 5.8.1877) who is mentioned above. He died three weeks after I was born. My investigations have revealed 13 children - the first being twin daughters, Ann Maria and Mary Ann - born and died in 1863. The last birth of which I was aware was Jane, born in 1887. 15 children are mentioned in the thread. I was not aware of Thornah but a daughter, Leah, was born in 1885. She lived to adulthood - I actually met her once. I wonder if she was a twin to Thornah. I would also be interested to have details of the other child who brought the total to 15. 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Please disregard, folks. Thanks, Peter SUFFOLK List Admin. -----Original Message----- From: P. S. Wyant [mailto:wyants@sasktel.net] Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2019 18:37 To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Subject: [SFK-UK] Re: Thornah GANT of Elmsett Test _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community