Leona Jensen <maillist1938@yahoo.ca> wrote: > I have Henry (Harry) Granger on the 1881 census. I am unable to find > out much more about this family in the early years. Have tried Free BMD, > Family Search old and new, Free census for all years included,most Suffolk > listings I can think of and beyond finding a couple of the children's > birth information am at a loss. Any help gratefully accepted. Thanks > in advance. Leona Jensen > Dwelling: 18 Kemball St > Census Place: Ipswich St Margaret, Suffolk, England > Source: FHL Film 1341453 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1875 Folio 44 > Page 4 Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Henry GRANGER M 30 M Hadleigh, Suffolk, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Boiler Maker Labr > Hannah GRANGER M 32 F Ipswich, Suffolk, England > Rel: Wife > Florence GRANGER 14 F Ipswich, Suffolk, England > Rel: Daugh > Occ: Scholar > Robert GRANGER 12 M Ipswich, Suffolk, England > Rel: Son <snip> Leona You may have started one of those great mysteries as it would seem to be possible that the family may well have changed their name from RAMPLIN to GRANGER! In the 1871 census (RG10/1754/96) there is a family living at 29 Duke Street Ipswich as follows: Harry RAMPLIN Head Age 21 born Hadleigh,Suffolk Labourer Hannah RAMPLIN Wife Age 23 born Ipswich Florence RAMPLIN Daughter Age 3 born Ipswich Robert RAMPLIN Son Age 1 born Ipswich Apart from the surname all the other details fit which makes me believe that there has been a name change. Just to add to the mystery there is no record of the births of Florence and Robert RAMPLIN but FreeBMD does give births for Florence and Robert GRANGER in 1867 and 1869 respectively. >From Free BMD there is a marriage in the Ipswich Registration District of Henry RAMPLIN in the September quarter of 1867 which would tie in and there is a candidate wife called Hannah BROWN. The GRANGER family are still in Kemball Street in 1891. The big question is why did they change their name - assuming that they are one and the same. Maybe one of the people on the list can make a suggestion for you to follow up. Brian

That is very interesting as I have a whole slew of Ramplin's and their relations in my tree already but not this family. I can't figure out if the two children were listed as Ramplin on the Census then how do the births show up as Granger in the BMD? This is a puzzle but you have started me on the quest. Hopefully I can figure it out. Thanks so much for your help. I may need more help to figure this out though. Bye for now. Leona Jensen --- On Mon, 8/16/10, Brian Lummis <lummis@btinternet.com> wrote: > From: Brian Lummis <lummis@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] HENRY GRANGER - b 1851 Hadleigh > To: suffolk@rootsweb.com > Received: Monday, August 16, 2010, 3:24 PM > Leona Jensen <maillist1938@yahoo.ca> > wrote: > > I have Henry (Harry) Granger on the 1881 census.  > I am unable to find > > out much more about this family in the early > years.  Have tried Free BMD, > > Family Search old and new, Free census for all years > included,most Suffolk > > listings I can think of and beyond finding a couple of > the children's > > birth information am at a loss.  Any help > gratefully accepted.  Thanks > > in advance.  Leona Jensen > > Dwelling: 18 Kemball St > > Census Place: Ipswich St Margaret, Suffolk, England > > Source: FHL Film 1341453     PRO > Ref RG11    Piece 1875    Folio 44 > > Page 4 Marr Age Sex Birthplace > > Henry GRANGER M 30 M Hadleigh, Suffolk, England > > Rel: Head > > Occ: Boiler Maker Labr > > Hannah GRANGER M 32 F Ipswich, Suffolk, England > > Rel: Wife > > Florence GRANGER 14 F Ipswich, Suffolk, England > > Rel: Daugh > > Occ: Scholar > > Robert GRANGER 12 M Ipswich, Suffolk, England > > Rel: Son > <snip> > > Leona > > You may have started one of those great mysteries as it > would seem to be > possible that the family may well have changed their name > from RAMPLIN to > GRANGER! > > In the 1871 census (RG10/1754/96) there is a family living > at 29 Duke Street > Ipswich as follows: > > Harry RAMPLIN Head Age 21 born Hadleigh,Suffolk Labourer > Hannah RAMPLIN Wife Age 23 born Ipswich > Florence RAMPLIN Daughter Age 3 born Ipswich > Robert RAMPLIN Son Age 1 born Ipswich > > Apart from the surname all the other details fit which > makes me believe that > there has been a name change. Just to add to the mystery > there is no record > of the births of Florence and Robert RAMPLIN but FreeBMD > does give births > for Florence and Robert GRANGER in 1867 and 1869 > respectively. > > >From Free BMD there is a marriage in the Ipswich > Registration District of > Henry RAMPLIN in the September quarter of 1867 which would > tie in and there > is a candidate wife called Hannah BROWN. > > The GRANGER family are still in Kemball Street in 1891. > > The big question is why did they change their name - > assuming that they are > one and the same. Maybe one of the people on the list can > make a suggestion > for you to follow up. > > Brian > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >