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If you have any questions about the Boards or what the following is, pls contact me off-list at: mailto:SUFFOLK-admin@rootsweb.com . Thanks, Peter SUFFOLK List Admin. -------------------------------------------------- Re: ST PETERS CHILLESFORD LOOKUP This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: robertstudd Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8521.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi , Im also related to the Bantofts and have James and Charlotte Plant on my tree with Children Ann 1834,William 1835 Henry 1837, Catherine 1839 and the elusive George 1840.If you concur, I can tell you the marriages and the Children of the above if you have not already got them and if indeed it is of some interest. Regards Bob -------------------------------------------------- THE MURKIN FAMILY This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: raymurkin2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8639/mb.ashx Message Board Post: HI MY NAME IS RAY AND I AM HOPING THAT FOLKS OUT THERE WITH THE SAME SURNAME WOULD LIKE TO SHARE INFOMATION REGARDING THE FAMILY NAME -------------------------------------------------- Re: ST PETERS CHILLESFORD LOOKUP This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tlevett1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8521.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have just purchased the full records for the Parish of Chillesford on fiche 1740 to 1900 and will be in a position to do look-ups at the beginning of the new year and hopefully help to clear up some of the mysteries mentioned in this thread, Terry. -------------------------------------------------- Re: ST PETERS CHILLESFORD LOOKUP This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rmgaris Surnames: Bantoft, Banthorpe, Bantrick, Knights, Plant Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8521.3.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Bob, thanks for your offer. We are particularly interested in details of Catherine b. 1839. Was it this Catherine (daughter of James & Charlotte) or the Catherine (b. about the same time to Samuel & Eliza) who married John Knights? If it was Catherine (daughter of Samuel & Eliza), then what happened to Catherine (daughter of James & Charlotte)? By the way, we purchased the birth certificate of George Bantoft b. 1840 only to discover parents listed as Benjamin & Mary Bantoft! Nevertheless we still can't help wondering whether young George was "adopted" by Benjamin & Mary following his mother's death only a month after he was born. Kind regards Robyn -------------------------------------------------- Re: ST PETERS CHILLESFORD LOOKUP This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: robertstudd Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8521.3.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Robyn, The Catherine bn abt 1839 who Married John Knights was the Daughter of Samuel Bantoft 1809-1894 and Eliza Ward 1808-1868,both Buried Chillesford. The Catherine bn April 21st 1839 the Daughter of James Bantoft and Charlotte Plant was Baptised 3rd May 1839 and Buried 25th July 1840 at St Peters Church,Chillesford.Aged abt 14 months. I see what you mean regarding the elusive George as I couldnt find him either relating to James and Charlotte , on early Census Sheets only to the Names you mentioned.i also have Charlottes Death as 1840,so you are more than likely correct. -------------------------------------------------- Re: Bastardy record - help needed This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jr_jameson_au Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8638.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for that - useful stuff. So I presume that another record confirms Charles Jolly as the father - under the heading of "Affiliation and bastardy papers / Affiliation orders" I find: Mehitabel Bareham (Mother) FL501/7/619 1832 These documents are held at Suffolk Record Office, Bury St Edmunds Branch Contents: Charles Jolly of Hundon, labourer (Father) 4 Jun. 1832 I found a christening record for Charles Bareham to mother Mehetabel Bareham (but no father listed) on 8 May 1832. I'm guessing this is the child fathered by Charles Jolly - is there any way to confirm? Regards ... John -------------------------------------------------- Re: parish records lookups This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jr_jameson_au Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8609.14/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Kate, I'm trying to find more details on Mehetabel Bareham who I believe had two bastard sons John and Charles before she married Jonas Mayzes circa 1835. She was born and grew up in Clare before moving to Essex with Jonas. Anything you can add would be much appreciated. TIA ... John -------------------------------------------------- Re: Marjoram Family Tree This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: geavic Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8528.8/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Australian BDM records have Mary also known as: Margreur or Margrair and surnames Marjaram, Marjoram and Hayaram Mary Ann Marjoram, some believe to be a Gypsy from Knoodishalt, Suffolk. Born: 15 MAY 1795 Suffolk, England Parents Thomas Marjoram (1769-70 d.- ) Elizabeth Watling (1770-73 d - ) In 1812, Mary Ann Marjoram was 16 years of age, working as servant and was charged with setting fire to a house. This details Mary Ann's crime of arson. She is alleged to have burnt down the house of Howard Welton of Raddingham on 25 November 1811. Mary was tried at At Suffold Assizes and sentenced to death, which was commuted to transportation for life, due to her youth and first offence. Mary was transported to Australia aboard the "Wanstead" and arrived Sydney, January 1814, and was placed at Parramatta, Arrival: 1814. Mary Ann Marjoram is transported to Australia aboard the Wanstead. Assignation: Richard BATTY b: 27 Aug 1797 in Sydney Cove NSW. Richard BATTY and Mary MARJORAM had a child Richard (April,1818) in Parramatta, NSW. Richard junior's death certificate states that his father was Richard BATTY, a painter and mother Mary Ann MARJORAM. Mary received permission to marry in 1819 and already with her first child Richard in 1820 married John William Coates who was transported to Sydney on the "Sir William Bensley". Married: John William Coates on 3 JAN 1820, Australia Spouse: John William Coates (1792-1847) B: 1792 Trimdon, Durham, , England D: 8 DEC 1847 New South Wales, Australia Children of Richard Batty and Mary Ann Marjoram Richard Coates (1818-) (Source: Carolyn Wilson) Spouse: Ann Susanna Children of John William Coates and Mary Ann Marjoram William COATES raised Mary's son Richard as his own circa 1857, Richard decided to change his name to his father's surname Batty. 1. Jane Coates (1821-1893) 2. Mary Coates (1823-1848) 3. Eleanor Coates (1825-1865) 4. Louisa Coates (1826-1909) 5. Matilda Coates (1827-) 6. John William Coates Jnr. (1827-) 7. Alfred Coates (1831-) 8. Emma Coates (1833-) 9. Ann Coates (1835-) There are many descendents in Australia trace their ancestry to Mary. -------------------------------------------------- Re: Marjoram Family Tree This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: geavic Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8528.9/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Australian BDM records have Mary also known as: Margreur or Margrair and surnames Marjaram, Marjoram and Hayaram Mary Ann Marjoram, some believe to be a Gypsy from Knoodishalt, Suffolk. Born: 15 MAY 1795 Suffolk, England Parents Thomas Marjoram (1769-70 d.- ) Elizabeth Watling (1770-73 d - ) In 1812, Mary Ann Marjoram was 16 years of age, working as servant and was charged with setting fire to a house. This details Mary Ann's crime of arson. She is alleged to have burnt down the house of Howard Welton of Raddingham on 25 November 1811. Mary was tried at At Suffold Assizes and sentenced to death, which was commuted to transportation for life, due to her youth and first offence. Mary was transported to Australia aboard the "Wanstead" and arrived Sydney, January 1814, and was placed at Parramatta, Arrival: 1814. Mary Ann Marjoram is transported to Australia aboard the Wanstead. Assignation: Richard BATTY b: 27 Aug 1797 in Sydney Cove NSW. Richard BATTY and Mary MARJORAM had a child Richard (April,1818) in Parramatta, NSW. Richard junior's death certificate states that his father was Richard BATTY, a painter and mother Mary Ann MARJORAM. Mary received permission to marry in 1819 and already with her first child Richard in 1820 married John William Coates who was transported to Sydney on the "Sir William Bensley". Married: John William Coates on 3 JAN 1820, Australia Spouse: John William Coates (1792-1847) B: 1792 Trimdon, Durham, , England D: 8 DEC 1847 New South Wales, Australia Children of Richard Batty and Mary Ann Marjoram Richard Coates (1818-) (Source: Carolyn Wilson) Spouse: Ann Susanna Children of John William Coates and Mary Ann Marjoram William COATES raised Mary's son Richard as his own circa 1857, Richard decided to change his name to his father's surname Batty. 1. Jane Coates (1821-1893) 2. Mary Coates (1823-1848) 3. Eleanor Coates (1825-1865) 4. Louisa Coates (1826-1909) 5. Matilda Coates (1827-) 6. John William Coates Jnr. (1827-) 7. Alfred Coates (1831-) 8. Emma Coates (1833-) 9. Ann Coates (1835-) -------------------------------------------------- Re: Marjoram Family Tree This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: geavic Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8528.3.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: MARY Marjoram 1795 in Australia is referenced in a booklet by Beverley Earnshaw ~ A Century of Pioneers ~ The story of five pioneer families in the Central West. Copyright 1984 Beverley Earnshaw. -------------------------------------------------- Re: parish records lookups This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kathleendaley60 Surnames: buck Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8609.15/mb.ashx Message Board Post: hi thank you for your help on my last 2 lookups it a great help ...hope you maybe able to help me once more william buck d.o.b. 1858 Ipswich i only have father name edward buck 2nd one is william baker d.o.b.1858 ipswich father edward baker thank you kathy -------------------------------------------------- Re: Marjoram Family Tree This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: suffolkmawther Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8528.3.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: She Suffolk village mentioned above would be Knodishall in East Suffolk. Pat ... -------------------------------------------------- Re: Marjoram Family Tree This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: suffolkmawther Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8528.3.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Above should read The Suffolk village ... Where was Raddingham? No parish of that name in the county. Pat ... -------------------------------------------------- Re: Bastardy record - help needed This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: suffolkmawther Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8638.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The Bastardy records that you mention are recorded on card index system in a wooden cabinet on the first floor of the Bury St Edmunds branch of the Suffolk Record Office and are easily accessed if anyone is going along they could carry out a look up for you. Pat ... -------------------------------------------------- Re: buck...row....woor This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kathleendaley60 Surnames: buck row woor Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8621.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: william buck d.o.b 1859 father edward buck ipswich ann woor sufolk d.o.b 1846-1921 limehouse married 1870 josiah row suffolk d.o.b 1848-1903 linehouse father of josiah jonathan row ann father robert woor 1807-1874 mother harriet bridge 1807-1880 alice jane row 1865 sudburn may have mother name of woor -------------------------------------------------- Re: Bastardy record - help needed This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jr_jameson_au Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8638.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Now that would be a real kindness - Sydney to Bury St Edmunds is a bit far :-) -------------------------------------------------- Re: Marjoram Family Tree This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ejw2713 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8528.3.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Could be Badingham? I've often seen it recorded as 'Baddingham' so not much of a stretch to change the first letter? -------------------------------------------------- Re: Marjoram Family Tree This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: suffolkmawther Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8528.3.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: ejw2713 I think you are correct with Badingham. Checked 1844 White's as it is the nearest reference I have to hand at home. In Badingham in 1844 there are John Welton - blacksmith Richard Welton - grocer and blacksmith Robert Welton - farmer We have (master) blacksmiths in our family and they usually employed a house servant as did many farmers, so this could well be a connection. Just the one Marjoram in our tree, Elizabeth who married Watson Bridges a blacksmith in Framlingham in 1799 (he was born in 1769). Pat ... -------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------