Hello Jo The James William CROW who married Eleanor Sophia TOLVER at Great Yarmouth (St Nicholas) in March 1853 was an army surgeon, probably baptized at Bradwell in 1826. His parents were James and Sophia CROW(E) of Gorleston. He died at sea or on the island of Madeira in 1863. His widow Eleanor was a daughter of Samuel TOLVER (c.1779-1865), the Town Clerk at Yarmouth for many years. She died at Southport, Lancashire, in 1870. More details can be found in the indexes of wills and administrations (e.g. Ancestry's new collection: National Probate Calendar, 1861-1941) and in 19th-century newspapers (accessible free if you join Lancashire's Online Reference Library: http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/libraries/borrower/join.asp). But I think you are trying to trace the couple who were married at the parish church of St Bartholomew Moor Lane (Moorfields) in the City of London on 12 July 1852 after banns (Ancestry / Guildhall Library): James William CROW, 27, bachelor, whitesmith, 10 Chiswell St, father James Isaac CROW, whitesmith & Ellen HAYWARD, 28, widow, charwoman, 10 Chiswell St, father John BROWN, stonepaviour They both signed the register. The witnesses were Edward MAY and Elizabeth MAY. They had already been together for more than a year, judging from the census of March 1851, when whitesmith James CROW (26, b. Bury St Edmunds) and his "Wife" Ellen (26, b. Ipswich) were lodging at 2 Corn Exchange Street, Cambridge. In 1841, 15-year-old James CROW (not born in Suffolk) and apparently four younger siblings were in Brent Govel Street, Bury St Edmunds, with James CROW (40, smith) and Rebecca CROW (40). The 1851 census shows bell-hanger Isaac James CROWE (50, b. Bury St Edmunds) at 28 Brentgovel St with his wife Rebecca (51, b. Wickham St Pauls [Essex]) and two daughters. Although Isaac James CROWE and Rebecca HALE had married at Bury St Edmunds in 1824, James (possibly their first child) may well have been born in Essex if his mother's parents were there. Rebecca Mary CROWE was buried in St James, Bury St Edmunds, at the age of 56 in 1855, a few years before Isaac James CROWE married Jane JONES (1859 Q1, Bury St E. district). Many of the 1861 returns are missing. I found only James CROW (60, whitesmith & greengrocer) and his wife Jane (42) at 1 Church Lane, Islington, Middlesex. In 1871 widower Isaac James CROW (70) and his married son James William (46) were at 13a St John's Street, Bury St Edmunds. They were whitesmiths, both recorded as born at Bury St Eds. The Bury St Edmunds whitesmiths in Kelly's directories of Suffolk include James CROWE at 18 Butter Market in 1858 (page 577) and James Isaac CROW at 13 St John's St in 1865 (p. 652). Jane, the wife of James CROWE of 13 St John St, was buried in the cemetery at Bury St Edmunds in August 1870, aged 52, followed by whitesmith Isaac James CROWE of the same address in May 1873, aged 72, and tinman James William CROWE of 13a St Johns St in 1880, aged 54. And that's where "Mrs." CROW was listed as a whitesmith in White's December 1874 directory (p. 586), although not under the whitesmiths, locksmiths & bellhangers in the trades section (p. 767). This seems unlikely to have been Ellen / Eleanor, since her husband was still alive at that time and she had been in London in 1871, but her Suffolk background looks fairly clear: 1809 Widower John BROWN m. Charlotte TURNER Ipswich (St Clement) 28 June (Suffolk Marriage Index) 1820 Eleanor daur of John & Charlotte BROWN bap. Ipswich (St Clement) 17 March (IGI) 1841 Salt House Lane, Ipswich (St Clement): Ellen BROWN (18; b. c.1823) with labourer John HAYWARD (25) & charwoman Charlotte BROWN (60) 1843 Q4 Ipswich district marriages: Ellen BROWN & John HAYWARD 1844 Charlotte BROWN of Albion Street bur. Ipswich (Holy Trinity) 8 June, aged 66 (Suffolk Burial Index) Best of luck with your research David Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2010 12:32:44 +0100 From: jo mason <jo.mason@swsmail.net> Subject: [SFK-UK] lost in 1851,61,71 census CROW[E] & TOLVER To: suffolk@rootsweb.com James William CROW[E]was, I think the James Crowe at Sustead Norfolk in 1841. He m Eleanor Sophia TOLVER 1853 Yarmouth Reg Dist. Dau Rebecca b 1855 Chesterton Cambs, Ellen 1857 Bury S E. none found in 1861. 1871 Eleanor & daughters in Westminster & she is head of the household, 81 & 91 Ipswich (Elena) where she died 1894. James died in B SE January 1880. In 1876 on his dau Rebecca's marriage cert. he was a whitesmith. ... Jo

Many thanks for those who have provided the answers to my query, I can now compile a tree for a wedding present for a descendant in S America next month. I861 is missing. Jo