Hello list Does anyone have an interest in the following convicts? John Carter born circa 1817. Convicted in Surrey for sheep stealing 1836 - sentence LIFE and transported to New South Wales Australia on the 'Prince George'. There is an application for permission to marry a free woman Mary Ann Willett in 1846 in New South Wales. The records show he arrived on the Prince George. Joseph Everett Carter born circa 1781. Gives age as 55 years in the trial. Crime and sentence the same as John Carter. Also arrived New South Wales on the 'Prince George'. I wonder if they father and son. Joseph 'may' have died in New South Wales in 1863. They were sent from Edmund St Bury according to one Hulk report. I would like to prove or disprove that John Carter the convict married Mary Ann Willett, born 1829, daughter of George Willett and Sarah Maria Tomkins. A John Carter married Mary Ann Willett and he died 1851 - however the age of this man is 57 years - it could be a transcribing error for the age. Leslea Queensland Australia

Leslea, This looks like their mariage in 1848. V1848605 31C/1848 CARTER JOHN WILLETT MARY NI The NI stands for the Church of England in the Clarence River District, ie. Grafton, Maclean. Death for Joseph E. Carter 2092/1883 CARTER JOSEPH E JOSEPH MARY ANN SYDNEY Colin/. ----- Original Message ----- From: Graham Linnett To: SUFFOLK@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 9:05 AM Subject: [SFK-UK] John Carter b. circa 1817 and Joseph Everett Carter b.circa 1781 Hello list Does anyone have an interest in the following convicts? John Carter born circa 1817. Convicted in Surrey for sheep stealing 1836 - sentence LIFE and transported to New South Wales Australia on the 'Prince George'. There is an application for permission to marry a free woman Mary Ann Willett in 1846 in New South Wales. The records show he arrived on the Prince George. Joseph Everett Carter born circa 1781. Gives age as 55 years in the trial. Crime and sentence the same as John Carter. Also arrived New South Wales on the 'Prince George'. I wonder if they father and son. Joseph 'may' have died in New South Wales in 1863. They were sent from Edmund St Bury according to one Hulk report. I would like to prove or disprove that John Carter the convict married Mary Ann Willett, born 1829, daughter of George Willett and Sarah Maria Tomkins. A John Carter married Mary Ann Willett and he died 1851 - however the age of this man is 57 years - it could be a transcribing error for the age. Leslea Queensland Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Colin, I agree with the information you have provided and thank you for Joseph E Carter's death index. On some Ancestry trees John Carter's birth varies from 1794 - 1818 and I feel his birth is circa 1817 because of the 'permission to marry' in 1846. His (John Carter) death is 1851 gives his age as 57 years however this could be a transcribing error, which is quite easy to do when trying to read some handwriting with poor quality of old records. I 'think' Joseph is the father of John Carter as their names are one beneath the other on the Suffolk Assizes. With thanks Leslea _____ From: Colin Liddell [mailto:caplid@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Sunday, 17 October 2010 11:20 PM To: gr.linnett@bigpond.com; suffolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] John Carter b. circa 1817 and Joseph Everett Carter b.circa 1781 Leslea, This looks like their mariage in 1848. V1848605 31C/1848 CARTER JOHN WILLETT MARY NI The NI stands for the Church of England in the Clarence River District, ie. Grafton, Maclean. Death for Joseph E. Carter 2092/1883 CARTER JOSEPH E JOSEPH MARY ANN SYDNEY Colin/. ----- Original Message ----- From: Graham <mailto:gr.linnett@bigpond.com> Linnett To: SUFFOLK@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 9:05 AM Subject: [SFK-UK] John Carter b. circa 1817 and Joseph Everett Carter b.circa 1781 Hello list Does anyone have an interest in the following convicts? John Carter born circa 1817. Convicted in Surrey for sheep stealing 1836 - sentence LIFE and transported to New South Wales Australia on the 'Prince George'. There is an application for permission to marry a free woman Mary Ann Willett in 1846 in New South Wales. The records show he arrived on the Prince George. Joseph Everett Carter born circa 1781. Gives age as 55 years in the trial. Crime and sentence the same as John Carter. Also arrived New South Wales on the 'Prince George'. I wonder if they father and son. Joseph 'may' have died in New South Wales in 1863. They were sent from Edmund St Bury according to one Hulk report. I would like to prove or disprove that John Carter the convict married Mary Ann Willett, born 1829, daughter of George Willett and Sarah Maria Tomkins. A John Carter married Mary Ann Willett and he died 1851 - however the age of this man is 57 years - it could be a transcribing error for the age. Leslea Queensland Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message