Hi Nivard, Thank you for your reply.How can I check the transcript? I have a basic Ancestry subscription but is does not allow me to view Baptisms.Is there any other way before I send for the certificate. Regards Liz in Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <ovington1@sky.com> To: <suffolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] William Messenger son of Charles > Hi Liz > > Although the 1858 entry is an extraction it is still a transcript > > Check the original baptism to see if the mother is recorded as Mary or > Eliza > although the mistake could be by the Vicar and either way will not tell > you > the mothers name (unless he was illegitimate) > > Ultimately the way forward would be to obtain the birth cert for William > which will give his mothers maiden name which is most likely Eliza CABLE > > Given the dates of the baptisms, the later birth is most likely to be > yours > > Births Sep 1858 > Messenger William Plomesgate 4a 563 > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > >> Hi Everyone, >> >> I have always found the people on this list very helpfull in the past and >> I am hoping that you can help me once again. >> >> I have Charles Messenger born 1832 Marlesford Suffolk who had a son >> William born about 1858. I have found Charles on the census with his >> family 1861,81,91,01. And his wife is always listed as Eliza. I have >> found >> a marriage for Charles and Eliza Cable 1853 in Marlesford. >> >> Family search has William Messenger Christened 26th September 1858 father >> Charles and mother Mary surname unknown.I have not been able to find a >> marriage for Charles and Mary nor have I been able to find them on the >> census. >> >> Both famlies seem to have had children by the names of William, Alice and >> Walter >> >> My great grandfather is William Messenger and on his marriage cert for >> 1883 he is age 25 and his father is Charles.I would really like to know >> who his mother is. >> >> Hope someone can help me >> Regards >> >> Liz > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi again Liz A copy of the source document can be ordered direct from the LDS for not a lot Or the records office, however although I would advocate getting a copy at some point, it will not tell you the mothers maiden name (unless the child was illegitimate which does not appear to be the case) Baptisms do not record the mothers maiden name The birth cert is your best way forward Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Nivard, > Thank you for your reply.How can I check the transcript? I have a basic > Ancestry subscription but is does not allow me to view Baptisms.Is there > any > other way before I send for the certificate. > Regards > Liz in Australia