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If you have any questions about the Boards or what the following is, pls contact me off-list at: mailto:SUFFOLK-admin@rootsweb.com . Thanks, Peter SUFFOLK List Admin. -------------------------------------------------- Re: Melton Lunatic Asylum - Suffolk - death certificate deciphering! This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: suffolkmawther Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8652.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In searching for death certificates giving information regarding Haemophilia, my father found that the real reason for the death is given at the time of death. So if a Haemophiliac became ill with Spanish flu and died as a result that would be on the death certificate, no mention made of the fact that the patient had Haemophilia. Very often a patient dies as a result of fighting infection over many weeks in the days before anti-biotics and blood transfusions etc etc. So someone who has been ill with Typhoid or similar problem will gradually become more ill and will eat and drink less, thereby death is caused by gradual exhaustion. I also heard a programme on BBC Radio 4 recently when a discussion on depression stated that in the Victorian days, when little was understood about severe depression, this was often referred to as 'exhaustion'. Bearing in mind that St Audry's was used for patients suffering from illnesses such as depression this might be correct in your ancestors case. quote ...date of admission: 4/19/1849 date of death: 1/26/1850 unquote ... * Presumably he was admitted on the 19th of April and passed away on the 26th January the following year. Treatment for mental illnesses usually meant hospitalisation for a very long time. Regards, Pat ... * English dates show day, month, year - -------------------------------------------------- Re: parish records lookups This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jodakist Surnames: Stebbings Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8609.22/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Kate, I wonder if you have records for Stanton? I found that my wife's great grandfather, Charles Stebbings was born there c1814. I have looked at the transcripts held by the LDS but I think that they ended about 1812 but am not sure as it was a couple of years ago when I read through them and at that time I thought that Charles was born c1800 so might have given up before reaching the 1814 entries. I only found a more accurate date for his birth from his army discharge records which became available on-line at the end of last year. If you do have records covering this period and you have time, please will you see if you can find any information on Charles' Christening, especially who his parents were, if listed. Thank you David -------------------------------------------------- Re: Richardson Family From Hadleigh Area This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: vaughanyoung Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/769.3.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Rod, Hello! My Mum was born and bred in Edwardstone, Suffolk - not far from Hadleigh. She now lives in Colchester and has done since her and my Dad married. I live in Capel St Mary, Suffolk - only about 10 mins drive from Hadleigh. There are only 4 sisters living from my Mum's family now out of a total of about 12 brothers and sisters. My Mum is the second youngest. Her Dad was a Williiam Richardson, son of Edmund James Richardson. Grimsey Richardson is my 3rd Great Grandfather but I can trace back a further two generations still in the same area. I have details about the Cousins' too - although beyond Deborah Cousins' parents is not clear. The info I have I've picked up from someone else's tree. You'll see that I've posted a comment on her father William's profile. There were several William Cousins' born at the same time and they all seemed to marry Marys - some married more than once so it is very difficult to prove exactly which one is the correct line to follow!! -------------------------------------------------- Re: 1851 Census Lookup Please This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jodakist Surnames: Richardson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8485.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I don't know whether you are still after this information as it's over two years since your posting? I have not been able to find either William or Mary on the 1851 census, however they are on the 1861 census, it shows that William was born in Balsham (that is a village near Linton),Cambridgeshire, in 1806 and Mary was born in Little Wratting, Suffolk in 1806. I hope this helps. David -------------------------------------------------- Stebbings family from Stanton, Suffolk This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jodakist Surnames: Stebbings Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8659/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am trying to find information on my wife's family. Census records show that her grandfather, William Stebbings was born in Stanton, Suffolk c1846. His father was Charles Stebbings who was also born there c1814. However, I have not been able to find any other records for them other than censuses and Charles' Army Discharge papers. Are there any other people with Stebbings family from this area in their trees who have any information on either of these please? -------------------------------------------------- Tattingstone Workhouse This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: maxdouble Surnames: Double Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8660/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Martha Double and 4 children were in Tattingstone Workhouse in the 1841 census. Are the workhouse records for say 1840 available in one or other of the record ofices (I can't find them if they are). -------------------------------------------------- Re: Samuel Moore and Elizabeth Cleveland This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: alanpeak98 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/1467.1543.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Alan Peak was alan.peak2@baesystems.com now alan.peak@yahoo.co.uk -------------------------------------------------- Re: Richardson Family From Hadleigh Area This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rodrichardson666 Surnames: Richardson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/769.3.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Debra, I find it fascinating that you still live in the same area. I'm afraid I was only very young when my grandparents died so didn't get to know them and regrettably my father never spoke much about his family and I never asked! I think we could be 3rd cousins - was your grandfather William James Richardson born 1889 ? My great grandfather was William Andrew Richardson brother of Edmund James Richardson. Coincidently William Andrew and my grand father William Edward also lived for a time in Colchester as your mother does - William Andrew actually died in 1928 when living in Harsnett Road. I must confess I've never been to the south Suffolk area but plan to in the near future to explore all the little villages around Hadleigh that keep coming up on census and birth records for the Richardson's. If you know of any other 'living' Richardson's I'd be grateful for any info - I had know idea the Richardson's were so extensive! I hope you don't mind but I've attached a couple of e mails from people who e mailed me following my last message who are keen to get in contact with you ------------------------------------------------------------ Hello Rod, I was born a Richardson, and cousin of mine in Australia sent me the link to your RootsWeb messages with Debra Young, as I no longer have an Ancestry account I can't reply to the thread, but fortunately you posted your e-mail address. Debra and I share the same gt grandfather, Edmund James from Edwardstone, but I am not sure who your William Edward's father was? Unfortunately it is some years since I researched the Richardson line, and also I am moving house so all my files are packed, otherwise I would probably know. Several Richardsons, including my own grandmother, when she was widowed young, moved to London after the wars, it was a great change from rural Suffolk, made a necessary move in a recession. If Debra did reply to you giving an e-mail address I would like to contact her, you have my permission to send her my e-mail address. I don't have a tree on-line as they tend to be snatched and canabalised. Just a note of warning, please don't take as fact anything you find on someone else's tree or indeed on the internet! I have horror stores as long as my arm! But it is a wonderful hobby, very addictive and I wish you many, many years of happy detective work. By the way, I now live in Suffolk and am happy to be back in the county where I have ancestors. on my father's side, going back over 700 years (Yes, all my own research!!) with best wishes Natalie Dickson ------------------------------------------------------------ G'day Rod Richardson If you have a family connection with Leonie Smith at all, then no doubt you are also directly related or an "In Law" to myself. Most probably the latter???? There are several Richardson / Tricker - Tricker / Richardson connections in my small family tree. Off the top of my head, Leonie Smith is connected to the Tricker's through the Richardson line, and Una Janet Tricker, (1920 - 2007), Una is a 2nd cousin, twice removed to myself. Whilst Una's husband, Alfred Ernest William Richardson, (1916 - 1999), is a 4th cousin, one time removed to myself. I have never taken this line back any further than to James Richardson, who married Sarah Arterton on 24 March 1856, in Whatfield, Suffolk, England. You might like to pass this post onto Debra Young for me, as I would like to hear from her also. Eddie Tricker ------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------- Re: Richardson Family From Hadleigh Area This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rodrichardson666 Surnames: richardson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/769.3.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Debra, Re last message - Sorry didn't realise I couldn't enter other peoples e mail addresses - had trouble posting message initially but when I removed e mail addresses all ok. Obviously up to you but feel free to e mail me direct if you want, and I can forward on to you, but fully understand if you'd rather not. Rod -------------------------------------------------- Re: Thomas Wigg and Judith Simpson This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jmanne Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/3606.2.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thomas Mannell-1. He was born Abt. 1756. He died on 15 Jun 1814 in Westleton Suffolk. Ellizabeth Godard. She was born Abt. 1766. She died on 09 Feb 1853 in Westleton Suffolk. Thomas Mannell and Ellizabeth Godard. They were married on 04 Oct 1785 in Westleton Suffolk. They had 8 children. 2. i. Joseph Mannell [1]. He was born Abt. 1802 in Westleton Suffolk. Christening on 07 Feb 1802 in Westleton Suffolk. He married Elizabeth Mannell (GAYFORD). They were married on 18 Feb 1833 in Kensington Middlesex. Occupation 1834 in 10 Mill pond Street (Cheesemonger). He died 1868 in Bermondsey. ii. Samuel Mannell. He was born 1791 in Westleton Suffolk. Christening on 06 Feb 1791 in Westleton, Suffolk, England. He died on 19 Nov 1807 in Westleton, Suffolk, England. 3. iii. Thomas Mannell. He was born 1791 in Westleton Suffolk. Christening on 06 Feb 1791 in Westleton, Suffolk, England. He married Hannah Wigg. They were married on 21 Jun 1822 in Westleton, Suffolk, England. He died on 15 Mar 1865 in Westleton, Suffolk, England. Occupation in Westleton, Suffolk, England (carter). iv. Elizabeth Mannell. She was born 1794 in Westleton Suffolk. Christening on 19 Jan 1794 in Westleton Suffolk. 4. v. William Mannell. He was born 1796 in Westleton Suffolk. Christening on 13 Jul 1796 in Westleton Suffolk. Occupation was Cheesmonger Master. vi. Richard Mannell. He was born 1799 in Westleton Suffolk. Christening on 20 Jan 1799 in Westleton Suffolk. vii. Henry Mannell [2]. He was born 1804 in Westleton Suffolk. Christening on 14 Aug 1804 in Westleton, Suffolk, England. Residence 1841 in Westleton, Suffolk, England [2]. He died on 22 May 1844 in Westleton, Suffolk, England. viii. susan Mannell. She was born 1808 in Westleton Suffolk. Christening on 05 Jul 1808 in Westleton Suffolk. -------------------------------------------------- Re: Thomas Wigg and Judith Simpson This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jmanne Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/3606.2.1.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thomas Mannell-1. He was born Abt. 1756. He died on 15 Jun 1814 in Westleton Suffolk. Ellizabeth Godard. She was born Abt. 1766. She died on 09 Feb 1853 in Westleton Suffolk. Thomas Mannell and Ellizabeth Godard. They were married on 04 Oct 1785 in Westleton Suffolk. They had 8 children. 2. i. Joseph Mannell [1]. He was born Abt. 1802 in Westleton Suffolk. Christening on 07 Feb 1802 in Westleton Suffolk. He married Elizabeth Mannell (GAYFORD). They were married on 18 Feb 1833 in Kensington Middlesex. Occupation 1834 in 10 Mill pond Street (Cheesemonger). He died 1868 in Bermondsey. ii. Samuel Mannell. He was born 1791 in Westleton Suffolk. Christening on 06 Feb 1791 in Westleton, Suffolk, England. He died on 19 Nov 1807 in Westleton, Suffolk, England. 3. iii. Thomas Mannell. He was born 1791 in Westleton Suffolk. Christening on 06 Feb 1791 in Westleton, Suffolk, England. He married Hannah Wigg. They were married on 21 Jun 1822 in Westleton, Suffolk, England. He died on 15 Mar 1865 in Westleton, Suffolk, England. Occupation in Westleton, Suffolk, England (carter). iv. Elizabeth Mannell. She was born 1794 in Westleton Suffolk. Christening on 19 Jan 1794 in Westleton Suffolk. 4. v. William Mannell. He was born 1796 in Westleton Suffolk. Christening on 13 Jul 1796 in Westleton Suffolk. Occupation was Cheesmonger Master. vi. Richard Mannell. He was born 1799 in Westleton Suffolk. Christening on 20 Jan 1799 in Westleton Suffolk. vii. Henry Mannell [2]. He was born 1804 in Westleton Suffolk. Christening on 14 Aug 1804 in Westleton, Suffolk, England. Residence 1841 in Westleton, Suffolk, England [2]. He died on 22 May 1844 in Westleton, Suffolk, England. viii. susan Mannell. She was born 1808 in Westleton Suffolk. Christening on 05 Jul 1808 in Westleton Suffolk. -------------------------------------------------- Re: Tattingstone Workhouse This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: suffolkmawther Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8660.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Tattingstone was the workhouse for the Samford Union, so you need to look under Samford. Extensive holdings include: Minute books (1764-1930); Births (1848-1946); Baptisms (1813-1943); Deaths (1848-1946); Burials (1899-1930); Register of married couples (1914-39); Register of lunatics (1889-1918); Register of mechanical restraint (1892-1916); Creed registers (1893-1945); Register of persons receiving infants for reward (1909-29); Admissions and discharges (1915-45); Ledgers (1794-1930); Master's journals (1913-31); etc. More information and photographs on Peter's excellent http://www.workhouses.org.uk/ Pat ... -------------------------------------------------- Re: Tattingstone Workhouse This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: suffolkmawther Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8660.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Forgot to say these are at the Ipswich branch of the suffolk Record Office. Pat ... -------------------------------------------------- Re: Thomas French b.1838 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: froggy461 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8658.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Linda, Thank you so much for your reply. The Frenches are on my husband's side of the family. I'm afraid we can't supply any more information. We were hopeful that an ancestor may have contacted us. Coincidentally, my grandmothers's maiden name was Calvert! from Leeds, Yorkshire. kind regards Jan -------------------------------------------------- parish records lookup This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: groundweed Surnames: Goodrich Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8661/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Kate are you still doing parish record look ups! I'm looking for the first wife of my G.G.Grandfather. His name was James Goodrich b.1807ish Bury St Edmounds. I have his 2nd marriage cert it states he was a widow? He married Elizabeth Hogger 31st Dec 1850 Acton Sudbury. His father was Thomas Goodrich I do not know who this mother was. The Goodrich's seem to be in the saddle/ harness business. With connections with Bury st Edmunds/Brent Eligh/ Naylands/Sudbury,all Suffolk. Can you help. -------------------------------------------------- Re: Tattingstone Workhouse This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: maxdouble Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8660.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Many thanks. Now I know where they are, I can plead for someone to look for something for me. Thanks for taking the trouble to reply. Max -------------------------------------------------- Re: Richardson Family From Hadleigh Area This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: suffolkmawther Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/769.3.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If you have any connections to the original Richardson researcher of this thread, you can contact Leonie directly on turquoise_floyd@yahoo.co.uk Pat ... on behalf of Leonie -------------------------------------------------- Re: Richardson Family From Hadleigh Area This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: vaughanyoung Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/769.3.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Pat, Thanks for this, I've just send Leonie an e-mail so hopefully she'll see it and may be able to help me. Debra Young -------------------------------------------------- Re: Richardson Family From Hadleigh Area This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: vaughanyoung Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/769.3.2.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Pat, Sorry to bother you again but I thought I'd sent Leonie an e-mail to the address you gave but it's just come back as failed. Any ideas? Debra Young -------------------------------------------------