Sudbury. My Smith ancestors migrated to Massachusetts in 1634-35. Wife Alice, Richard age 14, John age 13, and two daughters age 18 arrived in April 1635 on the Planter. husband John born approximately 1595 evidently went earlier. I am trying to find clues to Alices maiden name or John and Alices place of origin. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 10, 2019, at 11:08 AM, Suzanne Hardebeck via SUFFOLK <suffolk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Did Suffolk have birth records around 1615 to 1625? > Suzanne in Dallas Texas > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Suzanne The recording of births started in July 1837 Before that it was generally baptisms that were recorded, sometimes with a date of birth but most are without Parish registers go back to 1538 but not in all parishes, and of those not all survive What parishes were you interested in? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 10/06/2019 17:08, Suzanne Hardebeck via SUFFOLK wrote: > Did Suffolk have birth records around 1615 to 1625? > Suzanne in Dallas Texas

Did Suffolk have birth records around 1615 to 1625? Suzanne in Dallas Texas Sent from my iPhone

Hi Nirvad, Thanks for your help and advice. Jen. On: 31/05/2019 Nivard Ovington wrote: >I am not aware of anywhere that has Suffolk PRs online as yet > >There are some indexes, and transcripts but no images as far as I know > >I suspect you will need the Suffolk CRO

Hi Jenny I am not aware of anywhere that has Suffolk PRs online as yet There are some indexes, and transcripts but no images as far as I know I suspect you will need the Suffolk CRO https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Suffolk_Church_Records Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 31/05/2019 07:54, Jenny Meadows wrote: > Hi there, > > Can someone help as to where I can find and view the original baptismal > entries in the Suffolk parish registers for Walsham Le Willows and > Wetherden and if they are available online? > > I'm looking at Susan COLLEN or COLLIN/S who was baptised on 16 Aug 1814 > in Walsham Le Willows daughter of Thomas COLLEN and Elizabeth CLARKE who > married 18 Oct 1813 in Walsham Le Willows.  This family moved to > Wetherden and I found the following baptisms there - Susan 15 Apr 1815; > William 05 Jan 1817; and Thomas 08 Mar 1819. > > Could it be the same Susan baptised in two different parishes or more > likely the 1st Susan died and her burial was not recorded in Walsham? > > Any help is greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > Jen

Hi there, Can someone help as to where I can find and view the original baptismal entries in the Suffolk parish registers for Walsham Le Willows and Wetherden and if they are available online? I'm looking at Susan COLLEN or COLLIN/S who was baptised on 16 Aug 1814 in Walsham Le Willows daughter of Thomas COLLEN and Elizabeth CLARKE who married 18 Oct 1813 in Walsham Le Willows. This family moved to Wetherden and I found the following baptisms there - Susan 15 Apr 1815; William 05 Jan 1817; and Thomas 08 Mar 1819. Could it be the same Susan baptised in two different parishes or more likely the 1st Susan died and her burial was not recorded in Walsham? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jen

Hello all I am now ploughing through a lot of old documents that a relative (recently deceased) had copied for me. I do wish she were here still as she may have the answer to my question as she was the ultimate owner of the hitherto copyhold land etc in Wingfield that she got freehold after the 1922 I think it was Act abolished copyhold. Anyway the first document I have (and I haven't tackled the transcription of it yet as it is 24" by 26") seems to be of a Mary Cotton coming to the Manor Court of Stradbroke and Stubcroft in 1794 to transfer the property in Wingfield (that stayed in the Feavearyear family intact until recently) to a Thomas Wayth. That seems a normal transaction based on what I see for other subsequent generations. The second document (which I have transcribed) shows this property coming into the Feavearyear family with a Purchase Agreement in 1805 between this Thomas Wayth and Thomas Feavearyear a linen weaver and my 4th G Grandfather. There is no mention of the Manor in this purchase agreement at all and I don't have a document admitting my Thomas to the Manor Court afterwards as is the case for subsequent generations all of whom inherited this property. To be admitted tenant to the Manor these inheritors paid a fine to the Manor Court. So it seems strange that Thomas Wayth could get 500 pounds from Thomas Feavearyear for a property that he was a tenant of. So my question is whether a copyhold tenant could sell his property in this way. It is possible that there was a Manor Court involvement but I am surprised it is missing as my relative was meticulous at keeping the chain of custody of this property and went to the not inconsiderable expense to have these large documents copied and mailed to me in the USA! . As it happens my ancestor was the oldest child but female so hers the oldest male got the property and I think she always felt that was unfair! Sorry this is so long but hopefully someone can throw some light on this. Barbara Turnham Washington DC

Hi Janine If you go onto this link you will find Robert Friston. https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=%22robert+friston%22 Best wishes John

Hi Pam The burial for Robert FRISTON 7th Oct 1853 is on Ancestry under the London records, with the image of the PR Its at St Mary Magdalene Woolwich I doubt if he ever had a headstone, or if he did it may not have survived to the present day For burials in general, those in PRs in cities up to about 1850 or so will be in the graveyard of that church, and some after that if they paid for a plot In the country or more rural locations, the same is true up to around 1890/1900 although it does vary With burials in the PRs where the burial was elsewhere, its sometimes noted, but the minister may give a clue Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 25/05/2019 15:18, Pam Spooner via SUFFOLK wrote: > Hi,I have always been curious as to how people find WHERE someone is buried.  In my research experience for ancestors, the parish register notes the burial service but that churchyard is not necessarily the place of burial.  And I can't find in LDS any PR's for Suffolk. > > Peter, your remark about Robert Friston being buried at St. Mary Magdalene in Woolwich caught my eye - Please help me by revealing how you came to this conclusion.  I'm very interested in finding burials.  I did search Robert in findagrave.com but a listing for him is not yet there in the churchyard of St. MM, let alone a photo of a headstone (no photos at all for that burial ground, although several requests are there. An opportunity if anyone on the list lives nearby!) > THANK YOU for your information.Pam

Hi,I have always been curious as to how people find WHERE someone is buried.  In my research experience for ancestors, the parish register notes the burial service but that churchyard is not necessarily the place of burial.  And I can't find in LDS any PR's for Suffolk. Peter, your remark about Robert Friston being buried at St. Mary Magdalene in Woolwich caught my eye - Please help me by revealing how you came to this conclusion.  I'm very interested in finding burials.  I did search Robert in findagrave.com but a listing for him is not yet there in the churchyard of St. MM, let alone a photo of a headstone (no photos at all for that burial ground, although several requests are there. An opportunity if anyone on the list lives nearby!) THANK YOU for your information.Pam

Re the comment regarding a Driver in the RHA.... He would have been an enlisted soldier at that time. The Drivers Corps, which was created towards the end of the 18th C, became part of the RHA shortly after Waterloo. Prior to the Drivers Corps they were indeed civilian drivers. Drivers were (and still are) skilled horsemen who “drove” the teams of horses pulling gun carriages. Ian Sent from my iPad > > End of SUFFOLK Digest, Vol 14, Issue 36 > ***************************************

Hi Eileen Thank you for your reply, appreciated. I believe these families are connected and have been working on this for a while. I have a few ideas and will be in touch. Just wanted to reply to every before too much time passed. Kind regards Janine -----Original Message----- From: Eileen Adkins <adkins@dircon.co.uk> Sent: Friday, 24 May 2019 11:38 PM To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Subject: [SFK-UK] Re: Driver Royal Horse Artillery Hi Janine, I can’t help with your actual question but I’m wondering whether his father James is the son of the blacksmith at Sutton near Woodbridge. He was also James (abt 1770 - 1836) with a wife Mary (abt 1771 - 1847). Both are buried in Sutton. I have just had a look through the Sutton parish registers and found that on 26 May 1820 the following children of James Freston blacksmith and Mary his wife were baptised: Harriet born 5 Apr 1801 George born 22 Sep 1803 Charlotte born 14 Feb 1805 Maria born 26 May 1807 Eliza born 12 Jul 1808 Mary Ann born 18 Sep 1809 James bborn 16 Feb 1811 I wondered if this meant that in fact they had only recently married but cannot find a marriage for them in Sutton. On 12 Jan 1823 John Friston single otp & Mary Holden single otp were married in Sutton with Charlotte Friston a witness. All made their mark. Another reason for this mass baptsim might be that the parents had been worshipping at the Baptist Chapel in Sutton but opted for parish church baptism as a way of getting recognition for their children before birth certificates were available. The Baptist Chapel did keep a record of children’s birth for their members which is now in the Ipswich record office. I found quite a lot of my husband’s Knappett family recorded there. The book ceases a few years after birth registration started, presumably when it became fully accpted. I have done a lot of work tracing Mary Ann Freston and her Freston descendants by her illegitimate son. Good luck with your search, Eileen > On 24 May 2019, at 03:11, Janine Fisher <janinef@aapt.net.au> wrote: > > Good morning > > > > I'm looking for some help with a Suffolk ancestor please. I have > presumed he is an ancestor I am tracking and ordered a death certificate for him. > His death certificate gives his occupation as Driver Royal Horse > Artillery and I was hoping I could find some more information without > paying for a researcher. Nothing comes up on the War Forces search. > Any clues on where I could find information please? > > > > I would like to confirm I have the right death certificate by finding > records that connect him to Suffolk (and me). Details as follow: > > > > Name: Robert FRISTON (sometimes FRESTON) > > Birth: 1832 Ipswich, Suffolk, England > > Baptism: 10 June 1832 Ipswich, Parents Mary and James FRESTON > > Census: 1841 Albion Street Ipswich > > Census: 1851 25 John Street Ipswich, Moulder's Lad > > Death: 7 October 1853 Ordinance Hospital Woolwich Kent > > > > Death Certificate: 1853 Death in the Sub-district of Woolwich Arsenal > in the County of Kent. Registration District Greenwich. > > When and where died: Third October 1853 Ordinance Hospital > > Name and surname: Robert Friston > > Sex and Age: Male 21 years > > Occupation: Driver Royal Horse Artillery > > Cause of death: Rheumatism Acutis. Pericarditis 18 days certified. > > Signature, description and residence of informant: J Savage M.D. > Surgeon OMD in attendance Woolwich. > > When registered: Seventh October 1853 > > Signature of registrar: Richard Ripton Registrar > > > > On a personal level, he is part of a family I have been tracking for > some time. Robert is my 4th great-uncle and I have never been able to > find where he went after the 1851 Census and assumed that the death in Kent was him. > No one else seems to be tracing him on Ancestry. Curiosity got the > better of me and I invested in the death certificate not really > expecting to solve the mystery. I have lived with chronic rheumatoid > arthritis and pericarditis since I was 29 so when I read the details > on the death certificate I had a little cry knowing what it would have > been like for a young man 21 years old without the medicine and > treatments available now. I really want him to be my relative and > honour him in some way and give recognition to his life. > > > > Any help greatly appreciated > > Kind regards > > Janine > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thanks for your reply Jude. It will be a while before I am back in the UK unfortunately. Regards Janine Geelong Vic Australia -----Original Message----- From: Judith Acaster <jude.a@iinet.net.au> Sent: Friday, 24 May 2019 11:05 PM To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Subject: [SFK-UK] Re: Driver Royal Horse Artillery The Woolwich Archives are now located at Charlton House. I was in Woolwich last year for two weeks and they were closed at the Arsenal and relocating, so I missed out! Jude. Perth W. Australia Sent from my iPhone > On 24 May 2019, at 3:57 pm, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Janine > > It looks likely he is your man given there are no others bar him > around in the earlier census, and he does not appear thereafter 1853 > > He is of the right age to have joined up shortly after 1851 > > Unfortunately those service records available online are largely for > those who went to pension, the service records for those who died in > service or did not complete their term of service may not have > survived > > But they should appear in muster/pay rolls which would be at Kew > > The problem there is, they do not usually have a place of birth or > other identifier on them > > I would seek the advice of a military researcher, asking what the > prospect of finding something that would identify him, most will give > advice for free in the hope you will follow through with the research > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >> On 24/05/2019 03:11, Janine Fisher wrote: >> Good morning >> I'm looking for some help with a Suffolk ancestor please. I have >> presumed he is an ancestor I am tracking and ordered a death certificate for him. >> His death certificate gives his occupation as Driver Royal Horse >> Artillery and I was hoping I could find some more information without >> paying for a researcher. Nothing comes up on the War Forces search. >> Any clues on where I could find information please? >> I would like to confirm I have the right death certificate by >> finding records that connect him to Suffolk (and me). Details as follow: >> _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com

Hi Nivard Thank you for your reply. It is always greatly appreciated. I will seek the advice of a military researcher and see what they think and find out costs. Kind regards Janine -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, 24 May 2019 5:57 PM To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Subject: [SFK-UK] Re: Driver Royal Horse Artillery Hi Janine It looks likely he is your man given there are no others bar him around in the earlier census, and he does not appear thereafter 1853 He is of the right age to have joined up shortly after 1851 Unfortunately those service records available online are largely for those who went to pension, the service records for those who died in service or did not complete their term of service may not have survived But they should appear in muster/pay rolls which would be at Kew The problem there is, they do not usually have a place of birth or other identifier on them I would seek the advice of a military researcher, asking what the prospect of finding something that would identify him, most will give advice for free in the hope you will follow through with the research Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 24/05/2019 03:11, Janine Fisher wrote: > Good morning > > > > I'm looking for some help with a Suffolk ancestor please. I have > presumed he is an ancestor I am tracking and ordered a death certificate for him. > His death certificate gives his occupation as Driver Royal Horse > Artillery and I was hoping I could find some more information without > paying for a researcher. Nothing comes up on the War Forces search. > Any clues on where I could find information please? > > > > I would like to confirm I have the right death certificate by finding > records that connect him to Suffolk (and me). Details as follow: > > > > Name: Robert FRISTON (sometimes FRESTON) > > Birth: 1832 Ipswich, Suffolk, England > > Baptism: 10 June 1832 Ipswich, Parents Mary and James FRESTON > > Census: 1841 Albion Street Ipswich > > Census: 1851 25 John Street Ipswich, Moulder's Lad > > Death: 7 October 1853 Ordinance Hospital Woolwich Kent > > > > Death Certificate: 1853 Death in the Sub-district of Woolwich Arsenal > in the County of Kent. Registration District Greenwich. > > When and where died: Third October 1853 Ordinance Hospital > > Name and surname: Robert Friston > > Sex and Age: Male 21 years > > Occupation: Driver Royal Horse Artillery > > Cause of death: Rheumatism Acutis. Pericarditis 18 days certified. _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com

Hi Peter Thankyou for your reply. I now have a resting place for him. I think you're right and the National Archives will be the best place to go to. Regards Janine -----Original Message----- From: Peter J Richardson via SUFFOLK <suffolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, 24 May 2019 5:14 PM To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Cc: Peter J Richardson <pjrich.ntl@googlemail.com> Subject: [SFK-UK] Re: Driver Royal Horse Artillery Hello Janine, Looking at the dates you have given us it appears 3rd October is the death date and 7th October is the burial date. It appears that your man was buried at St Mary Magdalene, Woolwich. It may be that hospital records still exist - I think the hospital may be the one described here: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C2131238 A couple of possible websites to use are below: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/hospitalrecords/ https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/london-metropolitan-archives/Pa ges/default.aspx although it looks to me as if the hospital was associated with the Woolwich barracks and it may be that the National Archives website is one to search further as well. If your man was in the army then the national archives at Kew is likely to be where you need to go to see whether his name appears in any musters or payrolls which may still exist for the Royal Horse Artillery. I suspect that it is possible that your man worked for the regiment in a civilian role. Regards Peter -----Original Message----- From: Janine Fisher [mailto:janinef@aapt.net.au] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 03:12 To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Subject: [SFK-UK] Driver Royal Horse Artillery Good morning I'm looking for some help with a Suffolk ancestor please. I have presumed he is an ancestor I am tracking and ordered a death certificate for him. His death certificate gives his occupation as Driver Royal Horse Artillery and I was hoping I could find some more information without paying for a researcher. Nothing comes up on the War Forces search. Any clues on where I could find information please? I would like to confirm I have the right death certificate by finding records that connect him to Suffolk (and me). Details as follow: Name: Robert FRISTON (sometimes FRESTON) Birth: 1832 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Baptism: 10 June 1832 Ipswich, Parents Mary and James FRESTON Census: 1841 Albion Street Ipswich Census: 1851 25 John Street Ipswich, Moulder's Lad Death: 7 October 1853 Ordinance Hospital Woolwich Kent Death Certificate: 1853 Death in the Sub-district of Woolwich Arsenal in the County of Kent. Registration District Greenwich. When and where died: Third October 1853 Ordinance Hospital Name and surname: Robert Friston Sex and Age: Male 21 years Occupation: Driver Royal Horse Artillery Cause of death: Rheumatism Acutis. Pericarditis 18 days certified. Signature, description and residence of informant: J Savage M.D. Surgeon OMD in attendance Woolwich. When registered: Seventh October 1853 Signature of registrar: Richard Ripton Registrar On a personal level, he is part of a family I have been tracking for some time. Robert is my 4th great-uncle and I have never been able to find where he went after the 1851 Census and assumed that the death in Kent was him. No one else seems to be tracing him on Ancestry. Curiosity got the better of me and I invested in the death certificate not really expecting to solve the mystery. I have lived with chronic rheumatoid arthritis and pericarditis since I was 29 so when I read the details on the death certificate I had a little cry knowing what it would have been like for a young man 21 years old without the medicine and treatments available now. I really want him to be my relative and honour him in some way and give recognition to his life. Any help greatly appreciated Kind regards Janine --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Janine, I can’t help with your actual question but I’m wondering whether his father James is the son of the blacksmith at Sutton near Woodbridge. He was also James (abt 1770 - 1836) with a wife Mary (abt 1771 - 1847). Both are buried in Sutton. I have just had a look through the Sutton parish registers and found that on 26 May 1820 the following children of James Freston blacksmith and Mary his wife were baptised: Harriet born 5 Apr 1801 George born 22 Sep 1803 Charlotte born 14 Feb 1805 Maria born 26 May 1807 Eliza born 12 Jul 1808 Mary Ann born 18 Sep 1809 James bborn 16 Feb 1811 I wondered if this meant that in fact they had only recently married but cannot find a marriage for them in Sutton. On 12 Jan 1823 John Friston single otp & Mary Holden single otp were married in Sutton with Charlotte Friston a witness. All made their mark. Another reason for this mass baptsim might be that the parents had been worshipping at the Baptist Chapel in Sutton but opted for parish church baptism as a way of getting recognition for their children before birth certificates were available. The Baptist Chapel did keep a record of children’s birth for their members which is now in the Ipswich record office. I found quite a lot of my husband’s Knappett family recorded there. The book ceases a few years after birth registration started, presumably when it became fully accpted. I have done a lot of work tracing Mary Ann Freston and her Freston descendants by her illegitimate son. Good luck with your search, Eileen > On 24 May 2019, at 03:11, Janine Fisher <janinef@aapt.net.au> wrote: > > Good morning > > > > I'm looking for some help with a Suffolk ancestor please. I have presumed > he is an ancestor I am tracking and ordered a death certificate for him. > His death certificate gives his occupation as Driver Royal Horse Artillery > and I was hoping I could find some more information without paying for a > researcher. Nothing comes up on the War Forces search. Any clues on where I > could find information please? > > > > I would like to confirm I have the right death certificate by finding > records that connect him to Suffolk (and me). Details as follow: > > > > Name: Robert FRISTON (sometimes FRESTON) > > Birth: 1832 Ipswich, Suffolk, England > > Baptism: 10 June 1832 Ipswich, Parents Mary and James FRESTON > > Census: 1841 Albion Street Ipswich > > Census: 1851 25 John Street Ipswich, Moulder's Lad > > Death: 7 October 1853 Ordinance Hospital Woolwich Kent > > > > Death Certificate: 1853 Death in the Sub-district of Woolwich Arsenal in > the County of Kent. Registration District Greenwich. > > When and where died: Third October 1853 Ordinance Hospital > > Name and surname: Robert Friston > > Sex and Age: Male 21 years > > Occupation: Driver Royal Horse Artillery > > Cause of death: Rheumatism Acutis. Pericarditis 18 days certified. > > Signature, description and residence of informant: J Savage M.D. Surgeon > OMD in attendance Woolwich. > > When registered: Seventh October 1853 > > Signature of registrar: Richard Ripton Registrar > > > > On a personal level, he is part of a family I have been tracking for some > time. Robert is my 4th great-uncle and I have never been able to find where > he went after the 1851 Census and assumed that the death in Kent was him. > No one else seems to be tracing him on Ancestry. Curiosity got the better > of me and I invested in the death certificate not really expecting to solve > the mystery. I have lived with chronic rheumatoid arthritis and > pericarditis since I was 29 so when I read the details on the death > certificate I had a little cry knowing what it would have been like for a > young man 21 years old without the medicine and treatments available now. I > really want him to be my relative and honour him in some way and give > recognition to his life. > > > > Any help greatly appreciated > > Kind regards > > Janine > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

The Woolwich Archives are now located at Charlton House. I was in Woolwich last year for two weeks and they were closed at the Arsenal and relocating, so I missed out! Jude. Perth W. Australia Sent from my iPhone > On 24 May 2019, at 3:57 pm, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Janine > > It looks likely he is your man given there are no others bar him around in the earlier census, and he does not appear thereafter 1853 > > He is of the right age to have joined up shortly after 1851 > > Unfortunately those service records available online are largely for those who went to pension, the service records for those who died in service or did not complete their term of service may not have survived > > But they should appear in muster/pay rolls which would be at Kew > > The problem there is, they do not usually have a place of birth or other identifier on them > > I would seek the advice of a military researcher, asking what the prospect of finding something that would identify him, most will give advice for free in the hope you will follow through with the research > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >> On 24/05/2019 03:11, Janine Fisher wrote: >> Good morning >> I'm looking for some help with a Suffolk ancestor please. I have presumed >> he is an ancestor I am tracking and ordered a death certificate for him. >> His death certificate gives his occupation as Driver Royal Horse Artillery >> and I was hoping I could find some more information without paying for a >> researcher. Nothing comes up on the War Forces search. Any clues on where I >> could find information please? >> I would like to confirm I have the right death certificate by finding >> records that connect him to Suffolk (and me). Details as follow: >>

Hi Janine It looks likely he is your man given there are no others bar him around in the earlier census, and he does not appear thereafter 1853 He is of the right age to have joined up shortly after 1851 Unfortunately those service records available online are largely for those who went to pension, the service records for those who died in service or did not complete their term of service may not have survived But they should appear in muster/pay rolls which would be at Kew The problem there is, they do not usually have a place of birth or other identifier on them I would seek the advice of a military researcher, asking what the prospect of finding something that would identify him, most will give advice for free in the hope you will follow through with the research Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 24/05/2019 03:11, Janine Fisher wrote: > Good morning > > > > I'm looking for some help with a Suffolk ancestor please. I have presumed > he is an ancestor I am tracking and ordered a death certificate for him. > His death certificate gives his occupation as Driver Royal Horse Artillery > and I was hoping I could find some more information without paying for a > researcher. Nothing comes up on the War Forces search. Any clues on where I > could find information please? > > > > I would like to confirm I have the right death certificate by finding > records that connect him to Suffolk (and me). Details as follow: > > > > Name: Robert FRISTON (sometimes FRESTON) > > Birth: 1832 Ipswich, Suffolk, England > > Baptism: 10 June 1832 Ipswich, Parents Mary and James FRESTON > > Census: 1841 Albion Street Ipswich > > Census: 1851 25 John Street Ipswich, Moulder's Lad > > Death: 7 October 1853 Ordinance Hospital Woolwich Kent > > > > Death Certificate: 1853 Death in the Sub-district of Woolwich Arsenal in > the County of Kent. Registration District Greenwich. > > When and where died: Third October 1853 Ordinance Hospital > > Name and surname: Robert Friston > > Sex and Age: Male 21 years > > Occupation: Driver Royal Horse Artillery > > Cause of death: Rheumatism Acutis. Pericarditis 18 days certified.

Hello Janine, Looking at the dates you have given us it appears 3rd October is the death date and 7th October is the burial date. It appears that your man was buried at St Mary Magdalene, Woolwich. It may be that hospital records still exist - I think the hospital may be the one described here: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C2131238 A couple of possible websites to use are below: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/hospitalrecords/ https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/london-metropolitan-archives/Pa ges/default.aspx although it looks to me as if the hospital was associated with the Woolwich barracks and it may be that the National Archives website is one to search further as well. If your man was in the army then the national archives at Kew is likely to be where you need to go to see whether his name appears in any musters or payrolls which may still exist for the Royal Horse Artillery. I suspect that it is possible that your man worked for the regiment in a civilian role. Regards Peter -----Original Message----- From: Janine Fisher [mailto:janinef@aapt.net.au] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 03:12 To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Subject: [SFK-UK] Driver Royal Horse Artillery Good morning I'm looking for some help with a Suffolk ancestor please. I have presumed he is an ancestor I am tracking and ordered a death certificate for him. His death certificate gives his occupation as Driver Royal Horse Artillery and I was hoping I could find some more information without paying for a researcher. Nothing comes up on the War Forces search. Any clues on where I could find information please? I would like to confirm I have the right death certificate by finding records that connect him to Suffolk (and me). Details as follow: Name: Robert FRISTON (sometimes FRESTON) Birth: 1832 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Baptism: 10 June 1832 Ipswich, Parents Mary and James FRESTON Census: 1841 Albion Street Ipswich Census: 1851 25 John Street Ipswich, Moulder's Lad Death: 7 October 1853 Ordinance Hospital Woolwich Kent Death Certificate: 1853 Death in the Sub-district of Woolwich Arsenal in the County of Kent. Registration District Greenwich. When and where died: Third October 1853 Ordinance Hospital Name and surname: Robert Friston Sex and Age: Male 21 years Occupation: Driver Royal Horse Artillery Cause of death: Rheumatism Acutis. Pericarditis 18 days certified. Signature, description and residence of informant: J Savage M.D. Surgeon OMD in attendance Woolwich. When registered: Seventh October 1853 Signature of registrar: Richard Ripton Registrar On a personal level, he is part of a family I have been tracking for some time. Robert is my 4th great-uncle and I have never been able to find where he went after the 1851 Census and assumed that the death in Kent was him. No one else seems to be tracing him on Ancestry. Curiosity got the better of me and I invested in the death certificate not really expecting to solve the mystery. I have lived with chronic rheumatoid arthritis and pericarditis since I was 29 so when I read the details on the death certificate I had a little cry knowing what it would have been like for a young man 21 years old without the medicine and treatments available now. I really want him to be my relative and honour him in some way and give recognition to his life. Any help greatly appreciated Kind regards Janine --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Good morning I'm looking for some help with a Suffolk ancestor please. I have presumed he is an ancestor I am tracking and ordered a death certificate for him. His death certificate gives his occupation as Driver Royal Horse Artillery and I was hoping I could find some more information without paying for a researcher. Nothing comes up on the War Forces search. Any clues on where I could find information please? I would like to confirm I have the right death certificate by finding records that connect him to Suffolk (and me). Details as follow: Name: Robert FRISTON (sometimes FRESTON) Birth: 1832 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Baptism: 10 June 1832 Ipswich, Parents Mary and James FRESTON Census: 1841 Albion Street Ipswich Census: 1851 25 John Street Ipswich, Moulder's Lad Death: 7 October 1853 Ordinance Hospital Woolwich Kent Death Certificate: 1853 Death in the Sub-district of Woolwich Arsenal in the County of Kent. Registration District Greenwich. When and where died: Third October 1853 Ordinance Hospital Name and surname: Robert Friston Sex and Age: Male 21 years Occupation: Driver Royal Horse Artillery Cause of death: Rheumatism Acutis. Pericarditis 18 days certified. Signature, description and residence of informant: J Savage M.D. Surgeon OMD in attendance Woolwich. When registered: Seventh October 1853 Signature of registrar: Richard Ripton Registrar On a personal level, he is part of a family I have been tracking for some time. Robert is my 4th great-uncle and I have never been able to find where he went after the 1851 Census and assumed that the death in Kent was him. No one else seems to be tracing him on Ancestry. Curiosity got the better of me and I invested in the death certificate not really expecting to solve the mystery. I have lived with chronic rheumatoid arthritis and pericarditis since I was 29 so when I read the details on the death certificate I had a little cry knowing what it would have been like for a young man 21 years old without the medicine and treatments available now. I really want him to be my relative and honour him in some way and give recognition to his life. Any help greatly appreciated Kind regards Janine --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com