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    1. [SFK-UK] Stonham Aspal baptismal lookup
    2. Robert Stephenson
    3. Hello everyone; would anyone happen to have the latest cd for Baptisms for Stonham Aspal. I am looking for the baptism and the names of his parents for Robert STEPHENSON born 1705 Stonham Aspal Thank you for the help Bob

    09/07/2019 05:03:32
    1. [SFK-UK] Re: Anna Frost >> Ian
    2. David Gobbitt
    3. Hello Ian I now think you can disregard the pensioner I mentioned in 2016, but Woodbridge does look promising. Twelve-year-old "Anna" FROST (b. Woodbridge c.1858-59) was at Turn Lane, Woodbridge, in 1871, serving as housekeeper for her (?great-)uncle Samuel MILBOURNE and his blind wife Ann (probably née SAWYER; m. Ipswich St Clement 1828). In 1861 Ann E. FROST, aged 2, was living in Seckford Street, Woodbridge, with her parents, Henry and Ann E. FROST, whose deaths were both registered in 1863 Q3. Henry FROST had married Ann Elizabeth SAWYER in 1858. The birth of Ann Elizabeth FROST was registered in 1858 Q3, with mother née "SANYER" according to the GRO database. She was baptized at Woodbridge St Mary on 29 July 1860 (daughter of furrier Henry and Ann FROST of Seckford Street). By 1862, when her brother Henry Edward was christened, their father was a huckster of "Market Hill" (possibly still Seckford Street). Young Henry (b. 1861 Q2) appears to have died in 1863 (Q2). Both Samuel and Ann MILB(O)URN died in 1872. Anna FROST may have remained in Woodbridge for a few years, perhaps with grandmother Eliza (née BROWN) who was there until her death in November 1876, having married widower Edward FROST (c.1807-1859) in 1834. His children included another Edward (c.1835-1910?) who married Hannah (Blois) ABEL in 1859. David On Thursday, 5 September 2019, 02:46:39 BST, Ian Gully <moosan@chariot.net.au> wrote: Nirvard, Unfortunately, all other near relatives have passed so can't quiz them over details.  I have: 1876 arrived in Adelaide, South Australia, as 'Anna Frost', aged 19 years. 1878 married by special licence to Thomas Gully, as 'Anna Edith Frost'. Marriage recorded in a local Adelaide paper as being the 'only daughter of the late Edward and Edith Frost, Suffolk, England' Same notice appears in Bury and Norwich Post and Suffolk Herald, 1 Oct 1878. Marriage certificate shows her as 'Anna E. E. Frost' and father as 'Edward'. 1928 notice in Adelaide newspaper for her Golden Wedding anniversary refers to 'Anna Edith Elizabeth Frost', born 24 June 1856 in Suffolk.  No reference to her parents. However, Golden Wedding notice in another Adelaide newspaper refers to 'Anna' as being 'only daughter of the late Henry and Elizabeth Frost of Suffolk, England'. Her death certificate (1937) records her as 'Anna Edith Elizabeth Gully' (nee Frost). The confusing part is the notice relating to the Golden Wedding with parents shown as 'Henry and Elizabeth Frost'.  Maybe a printing error, but seems to be coincidental with 'Edith' being referred to in the marriage notice and certificate and 'Elizabeth' being shown as her mother in the Golden Wedding notice.  Ties in with her first names being recorded as 'Anna Edith Elizabeth'. If it was not a printing error, did her birth parents, Edward and Edith, die and she was then looked after by relatives Henry and Elizabeth, who also died, after which she emigrated to Adelaide and later took on the additional name of Elizabeth from that connection??? I haven't been able to come up with Edward and Edith Frost or Henry and Elizabeth Frost in Suffolk.  Any help would be greatly appreciated. Ian Gully Adelaide South Australia

    09/07/2019 06:13:39
    1. [SFK-UK] Re: Anna Frost >> Ian
    2. Ian Gully
    3. Nirvard, Unfortunately, all other near relatives have passed so can't quiz them over details. I have: 1876 arrived in Adelaide, South Australia, as 'Anna Frost', aged 19 years. 1878 married by special licence to Thomas Gully, as 'Anna Edith Frost'. Marriage recorded in a local Adelaide paper as being the 'only daughter of the late Edward and Edith Frost, Suffolk, England' Same notice appears in Bury and Norwich Post and Suffolk Herald, 1 Oct 1878. Marriage certificate shows her as 'Anna E. E. Frost' and father as 'Edward'. 1928 notice in Adelaide newspaper for her Golden Wedding anniversary refers to 'Anna Edith Elizabeth Frost', born 24 June 1856 in Suffolk. No reference to her parents. However, Golden Wedding notice in another Adelaide newspaper refers to 'Anna' as being 'only daughter of the late Henry and Elizabeth Frost of Suffolk, England'. Her death certificate (1937) records her as 'Anna Edith Elizabeth Gully' (nee Frost). The confusing part is the notice relating to the Golden Wedding with parents shown as 'Henry and Elizabeth Frost'. Maybe a printing error, but seems to be coincidental with 'Edith' being referred to in the marriage notice and certificate and 'Elizabeth' being shown as her mother in the Golden Wedding notice. Ties in with her first names being recorded as 'Anna Edith Elizabeth'. If it was not a printing error, did her birth parents, Edward and Edith, die and she was then looked after by relatives Henry and Elizabeth, who also died, after which she emigrated to Adelaide and later took on the additional name of Elizabeth from that connection??? I haven't been able to come up with Edward and Edith Frost or Henry and Elizabeth Frost in Suffolk. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Ian Gully Adelaide South Australia -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 5:34 PM To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Subject: [SFK-UK] Re: Anna Frost >> Ian Hi Ian The only birth for an Anna FROST in 1856 was registered in St Ives (Huntingdonshire) FROST, ANNA MARIA WRIGHT GRO Reference: 1856 S Quarter in ST. IVES Volume 03B Page 248 Expanding the search to 1856 +/- 2 years births registered in Suffolk gets FROST, ANNA MORTLOCK GRO Reference: 1854 S Quarter in MILDENHALL Volume 04A Page 409 FROST, ANNA STARLING GRO Reference: 1855 S Quarter in DEPWADE Volume 04B Page 204 FROST, ANNA ELIZABETH ARCHER GRO Reference: 1857 M Quarter in BOSMERE AND CLAYDON Volume 04A Page 543 FROST, ANNA MARIA SUTTON GRO Reference: 1857 D Quarter in WANGFORD Volume 04A Page 612 FROST, ANNA LAURA POLLARD GRO Reference: 1858 M Quarter in STOW Volume 04A Page 486 Unfortunately none of those two parents surnames with the groom Edward marry before 1858 Neither did I find any marriage for an Edward FROST to an Edith before 1858 anywhere in the country What evidence are you basing your search on ? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 03/09/2019 01:51, Ian Gully wrote: > Ian, If you come across an Edward Frost who married an Edith (maiden name > n/k) and had a child named Anna, b1856, all from somewhere in Suffolk, can > you advise please. Anna is my great grandmother and the only family > member I have not been able to trace back to England. > Thanks > Ian Gully > Adelaide > South Australia _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    09/04/2019 07:46:05
    1. [SFK-UK] Re: Anna Frost >> Ian
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Hi Ian The only birth for an Anna FROST in 1856 was registered in St Ives (Huntingdonshire) FROST, ANNA MARIA WRIGHT GRO Reference: 1856 S Quarter in ST. IVES Volume 03B Page 248 Expanding the search to 1856 +/- 2 years births registered in Suffolk gets FROST, ANNA MORTLOCK GRO Reference: 1854 S Quarter in MILDENHALL Volume 04A Page 409 FROST, ANNA STARLING GRO Reference: 1855 S Quarter in DEPWADE Volume 04B Page 204 FROST, ANNA ELIZABETH ARCHER GRO Reference: 1857 M Quarter in BOSMERE AND CLAYDON Volume 04A Page 543 FROST, ANNA MARIA SUTTON GRO Reference: 1857 D Quarter in WANGFORD Volume 04A Page 612 FROST, ANNA LAURA POLLARD GRO Reference: 1858 M Quarter in STOW Volume 04A Page 486 Unfortunately none of those two parents surnames with the groom Edward marry before 1858 Neither did I find any marriage for an Edward FROST to an Edith before 1858 anywhere in the country What evidence are you basing your search on ? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 03/09/2019 01:51, Ian Gully wrote: > Ian, If you come across an Edward Frost who married an Edith (maiden > name n/k) and had a child named Anna, b1856, all from somewhere in > Suffolk, can you advise please.  Anna is my great grandmother and the > only family member I have not been able to trace back to England. > Thanks > Ian Gully > Adelaide > South Australia

    09/03/2019 02:04:32
    1. [SFK-UK] Re: Eve Frost
    2. Ian Gully
    3. Ian, If you come across an Edward Frost who married an Edith (maiden name n/k) and had a child named Anna, b1856, all from somewhere in Suffolk, can you advise please. Anna is my great grandmother and the only family member I have not been able to trace back to England. Thanks Ian Gully Adelaide South Australia -----Original Message----- From: ian via SUFFOLK Sent: Monday, September 02, 2019 8:59 PM To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Cc: ian Subject: [SFK-UK] Eve Frost I am trying to find the marriage of John Frost to Eve. John was born in Rattlesden in 1717. They had 7 children between 1743 and 1759 at Rattlesden. Finding the marriage would help in finding Eve’s birth and her parents. Eve died in 1783 at Rattlesden. Ian. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    09/02/2019 06:51:43
    1. [SFK-UK] Re: Eve Frost
    2. Roy Stockdill
    3. Findmypast has a transcription of the marriage of JOHN FROST to EVE SIER at Great Finborough (fairly close to Rattlesden) in 1741. First name(s) John Last name Frost Birth year - Marriage year 1741 Spouse's first name(s) Eve Spouse's last name Sier Place Finborough Great County Suffolk Country England Source Boyd's marriage index, 1538-1850 Record set England, Boyd's Marriage Indexes, 1538-1850 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Marriages Collections from England, Great Britain -----Original Message----- From: ian via SUFFOLK [mailto:suffolk@rootsweb.com] Sent: 02 September 2019 12:29 To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Cc: ian Subject: [SFK-UK] Eve Frost I am trying to find the marriage of John Frost to Eve. John was born in Rattlesden in 1717. They had 7 children between 1743 and 1759 at Rattlesden. Finding the marriage would help in finding Eve’s birth and her parents. Eve died in 1783 at Rattlesden. Ian. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    09/02/2019 09:50:17
    1. [SFK-UK] Re: Eve Frost
    2. gtmt11
    3. Hi Cuz Sue.Great to see you posting again !I have, since , we last corresponded , a long while ago, , taken DNA tests and found lots of ancestors worldwide !Well worth trying for those interested in Family History. Not surprising that I have quite a bit of Scandinavialn DNA ( Vikings ) in me. So I guess many will have in East Coast Counties. Norman also but they came from ScandinaviaBest WishesCuz GrahamSent from Samsung tablet. -------- Original message --------From: suffolksue via SUFFOLK <suffolk@rootsweb.com> Date: 02/09/2019 13:10 (GMT+00:00) To: ian via SUFFOLK <suffolk@rootsweb.com> Cc: ian <iangcarter@blueyonder.co.uk>, suffolksue <sp51glem@btinternet.com> Subject: [SFK-UK] Re: Eve Frost There is a marriage of a John Frost to Eve Sier in 1741 in Great Finborough.⁣Sent from TypeApp ​On 2 Sep 2019, 12:30 pm, at 12:30 pm, ian via SUFFOLK <suffolk@rootsweb.com> wrote:>I am trying to find the marriage of John Frost to Eve. John was born in>Rattlesden in 1717. They had 7 children between 1743 and 1759 at>Rattlesden. Finding the marriage would help in finding Eve’s birth and>her parents.  Eve died in 1783 at Rattlesden. >Ian.>>Sent from Mail for Windows 10>>>_______________________________________________>Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref>Unsubscribe>https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com>Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions:>https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9>Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog>RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb>community_______________________________________________Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebprefUnsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.comPrivacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blogRootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    09/02/2019 06:58:20
    1. [SFK-UK] Re: Eve Frost
    2. suffolksue
    3. There is a marriage of a John Frost to Eve Sier in 1741 in Great Finborough. ⁣Sent from TypeApp ​ On 2 Sep 2019, 12:30 pm, at 12:30 pm, ian via SUFFOLK <suffolk@rootsweb.com> wrote: >I am trying to find the marriage of John Frost to Eve. John was born in >Rattlesden in 1717. They had 7 children between 1743 and 1759 at >Rattlesden. Finding the marriage would help in finding Eve’s birth and >her parents. Eve died in 1783 at Rattlesden. >Ian. > >Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe >https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >community

    09/02/2019 06:10:02
    1. [SFK-UK] Eve Frost
    2. ian
    3. I am trying to find the marriage of John Frost to Eve. John was born in Rattlesden in 1717. They had 7 children between 1743 and 1759 at Rattlesden. Finding the marriage would help in finding Eve’s birth and her parents. Eve died in 1783 at Rattlesden. Ian. Sent from Mail for Windows 10

    09/02/2019 05:29:07
    1. [SFK-UK] Re: Marriage Bonds
    2. Robert Stephenson
    3. Hi Annette; first of all can i ask if you have the parish records for Aldham? In answer to your question i really think either Giles Colchester or Nivard Ovington are more capable in answering your question than i . I would help if i knew the answer. Bob On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 11:32 PM Annette McLean <ourplace.mclean8@gmail.com> wrote: > Hullo Robert, I cannot help with your question but I have a number of > births, deaths and marriages that took place in Aldham, Suffolk.from about > the mid 1400's up to about 1800's > Do I need to to for information about them in Norwich Norfolk and if so > what sort of records would that be? > > Annette > NZ > > On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 at 14:09, Robert Stephenson < > robertstephenson719@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hello everyone, my 5 x g. grandparents are Robert STEPHENSON and Sarah > > SPARROW. I do have a copy of the marriage license for Robert and Sarah as > > well as a copy of the marriage bonds. The marriage bonds took place in > > Norwich, Norfolk and the marriage was at Aldham, Suffolk 1 April 1761' > > There is a date of 25 March 1754 also listed in the bonds. There is also > a > > figure of 200.00 pounds to be paid to a Joseph ATWELL an official of the > > Confidential Court of Norwich. It also states that the marriage did not > > take place in Norwich but Aldham, Suffolk. The date of 25 March 1754 can > > this lead me to believe this marriage was an arranged marriage ? > > > > Bob > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

    08/27/2019 03:25:36
    1. [SFK-UK] Re: Marriage Bonds
    2. Robert Stephenson
    3. Hi Nivard; i re-read the marriage bonds and you are correct in that the 200.00 pounds was not paid. But i think they may have signed a promissory note stating if the marriage did take place on 1 April 1761 then they would not have to pay the 200.00 pounds? I hope anyone who is researching the line of Robert and Sarah Stephenson take a look at the marriage bonds and realize the marriage did not take place in Norwich but Aldham. Thank you very much Nivard for taking the time to send an explanation of the bonds. Bob On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:34 AM Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Bob > > Aldham Suffolk was in the diocese of Norwich pre-1837, which is why the > bond was recorded as under Norwich > > The bond (very often £200) was not paid *unless* the information given > was found to be false (hence the reason for a stiff penalty to deter > false information being given) > > £200 then would be well in excess of £20,000.00 today, well out of the > reach of all but a very few people, I can't recall seeing anything > showing that a bond was ever paid, although it may have been at some point > > Dates wise, 25th March 1754 was the date that Hardwicks marriage act > came into force and probably refers to that, rather than it being the > date of the bond which was more likely to be the same year as the marriage > > The bond would state which parish/church they were to marry in > > People married by licence for various reasons, privacy, status, speed > etc but cost more than marriage by banns, often used by the wealthy > > Many marriages were arranged in the period but marriage by licence does > not of itself prove or disprove your one was arranged > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 26/08/2019 23:36, Robert Stephenson wrote: > > Hello everyone, my 5 x g. grandparents are Robert STEPHENSON and Sarah > > SPARROW. I do have a copy of the marriage license for Robert and Sarah as > > well as a copy of the marriage bonds. The marriage bonds took place in > > Norwich, Norfolk and the marriage was at Aldham, Suffolk 1 April 1761' > > There is a date of 25 March 1754 also listed in the bonds. There is also > a > > figure of 200.00 pounds to be paid to a Joseph ATWELL an official of the > > Confidential Court of Norwich. It also states that the marriage did not > > take place in Norwich but Aldham, Suffolk. The date of 25 March 1754 can > > this lead me to believe this marriage was an arranged marriage ? > > > > Bob > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

    08/27/2019 03:15:51
    1. [SFK-UK] Re: Marriage Bonds
    2. Robert Stephenson
    3. Hi Giles; thank you for taking the time to send me what i think is the answer to my question? I really did not know the significance of the 1754 date but now i do. I did read the marriage bonds for Robert and Sarah and knew this was not a licence but a bond and actually knew beforehand the marriage took place at Aldham, Suffolk. Again,thank you Giles for the help. Bob On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:47 AM Giles Colchester <gscolch@gmail.com> wrote: > Marriage bonds and licences were quite common. It does not indicate an > arranged marriage. Licences were used by wealthy persons and others who > did > not wish their banns to be read out in church or the delays associated with > the reading of the bans, such as those in a hurry to get married (pregnant > brides, bridegrooms about to leave for instance on joining the military in > wartime, non-conformists, couples under the age of consent). A > prerequisite > to the issue of the licence was a marriage allegation - a sworn statement > that there was no impediment to their getting married - and a marriage bond > - an agreement to pay a sum of money should the marriage not take place. > The licence normally allows for the marriage to take place at either the > bride or the grooms parish. However, licences can also be issued that in > effect requires the priest to marry someone there and then on presentation > of the licence. This is often the method used for those persons who wished > to get married at a location which was not the parish of either the bride > or > groom. I think that marriage licences can still be issued now, and > certainly were still being issued in 1949, but by then were very unusual. > None of the above suggests that it is an arranged marriage. > > Wishing you every success in your researches > Giles Colchester, > Researching COLCHESTER family, any spelling, any time, any place > And PACKARD in England, Australasia and Africa > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Stephenson [mailto:robertstephenson719@gmail.com] > Sent: 26 August 2019 23:37 > To: suffolk@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SFK-UK] Marriage Bonds > Hello everyone, my 5 x g. grandparents are Robert STEPHENSON and Sarah > SPARROW. I do have a copy of the marriage license for Robert and Sarah as > well as a copy of the marriage bonds. The marriage bonds took place in > Norwich, Norfolk and the marriage was at Aldham, Suffolk 1 April 1761' > There is a date of 25 March 1754 also listed in the bonds. There is also a > figure of 200.00 pounds to be paid to a Joseph ATWELL an official of the > Confidential Court of Norwich. It also states that the marriage did not > take place in Norwich but Aldham, Suffolk. The date of 25 March 1754 can > this lead me to believe this marriage was an arranged marriage ? > Bob > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

    08/27/2019 02:46:00
    1. [SFK-UK] Marriage Bonds
    2. Giles Colchester
    3. Marriage bonds and licences were quite common. It does not indicate an arranged marriage. Licences were used by wealthy persons and others who did not wish their banns to be read out in church or the delays associated with the reading of the bans, such as those in a hurry to get married (pregnant brides, bridegrooms about to leave for instance on joining the military in wartime, non-conformists, couples under the age of consent). A prerequisite to the issue of the licence was a marriage allegation - a sworn statement that there was no impediment to their getting married - and a marriage bond - an agreement to pay a sum of money should the marriage not take place. The licence normally allows for the marriage to take place at either the bride or the grooms parish. However, licences can also be issued that in effect requires the priest to marry someone there and then on presentation of the licence. This is often the method used for those persons who wished to get married at a location which was not the parish of either the bride or groom. I think that marriage licences can still be issued now, and certainly were still being issued in 1949, but by then were very unusual. None of the above suggests that it is an arranged marriage. Wishing you every success in your researches Giles Colchester, Researching COLCHESTER family, any spelling, any time, any place And PACKARD in England, Australasia and Africa -----Original Message----- From: Robert Stephenson [mailto:robertstephenson719@gmail.com] Sent: 26 August 2019 23:37 To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Subject: [SFK-UK] Marriage Bonds Hello everyone, my 5 x g. grandparents are Robert STEPHENSON and Sarah SPARROW. I do have a copy of the marriage license for Robert and Sarah as well as a copy of the marriage bonds. The marriage bonds took place in Norwich, Norfolk and the marriage was at Aldham, Suffolk 1 April 1761' There is a date of 25 March 1754 also listed in the bonds. There is also a figure of 200.00 pounds to be paid to a Joseph ATWELL an official of the Confidential Court of Norwich. It also states that the marriage did not take place in Norwich but Aldham, Suffolk. The date of 25 March 1754 can this lead me to believe this marriage was an arranged marriage ? Bob

    08/27/2019 02:35:14
    1. [SFK-UK] Re: Marriage Bonds
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Hi Bob Aldham Suffolk was in the diocese of Norwich pre-1837, which is why the bond was recorded as under Norwich The bond (very often £200) was not paid *unless* the information given was found to be false (hence the reason for a stiff penalty to deter false information being given) £200 then would be well in excess of £20,000.00 today, well out of the reach of all but a very few people, I can't recall seeing anything showing that a bond was ever paid, although it may have been at some point Dates wise, 25th March 1754 was the date that Hardwicks marriage act came into force and probably refers to that, rather than it being the date of the bond which was more likely to be the same year as the marriage The bond would state which parish/church they were to marry in People married by licence for various reasons, privacy, status, speed etc but cost more than marriage by banns, often used by the wealthy Many marriages were arranged in the period but marriage by licence does not of itself prove or disprove your one was arranged Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 26/08/2019 23:36, Robert Stephenson wrote: > Hello everyone, my 5 x g. grandparents are Robert STEPHENSON and Sarah > SPARROW. I do have a copy of the marriage license for Robert and Sarah as > well as a copy of the marriage bonds. The marriage bonds took place in > Norwich, Norfolk and the marriage was at Aldham, Suffolk 1 April 1761' > There is a date of 25 March 1754 also listed in the bonds. There is also a > figure of 200.00 pounds to be paid to a Joseph ATWELL an official of the > Confidential Court of Norwich. It also states that the marriage did not > take place in Norwich but Aldham, Suffolk. The date of 25 March 1754 can > this lead me to believe this marriage was an arranged marriage ? > > Bob

    08/27/2019 02:01:33
    1. [SFK-UK] Re: Marriage Bonds
    2. Annette McLean
    3. Hullo Robert, I cannot help with your question but I have a number of births, deaths and marriages that took place in Aldham, Suffolk.from about the mid 1400's up to about 1800's Do I need to to for information about them in Norwich Norfolk and if so what sort of records would that be? Annette NZ On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 at 14:09, Robert Stephenson < robertstephenson719@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello everyone, my 5 x g. grandparents are Robert STEPHENSON and Sarah > SPARROW. I do have a copy of the marriage license for Robert and Sarah as > well as a copy of the marriage bonds. The marriage bonds took place in > Norwich, Norfolk and the marriage was at Aldham, Suffolk 1 April 1761' > There is a date of 25 March 1754 also listed in the bonds. There is also a > figure of 200.00 pounds to be paid to a Joseph ATWELL an official of the > Confidential Court of Norwich. It also states that the marriage did not > take place in Norwich but Aldham, Suffolk. The date of 25 March 1754 can > this lead me to believe this marriage was an arranged marriage ? > > Bob > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

    08/26/2019 09:32:16
    1. [SFK-UK] Marriage Bonds
    2. Robert Stephenson
    3. Hello everyone, my 5 x g. grandparents are Robert STEPHENSON and Sarah SPARROW. I do have a copy of the marriage license for Robert and Sarah as well as a copy of the marriage bonds. The marriage bonds took place in Norwich, Norfolk and the marriage was at Aldham, Suffolk 1 April 1761' There is a date of 25 March 1754 also listed in the bonds. There is also a figure of 200.00 pounds to be paid to a Joseph ATWELL an official of the Confidential Court of Norwich. It also states that the marriage did not take place in Norwich but Aldham, Suffolk. The date of 25 March 1754 can this lead me to believe this marriage was an arranged marriage ? Bob

    08/26/2019 04:36:37
    1. [SFK-UK] Re: Suffolk 1891 FreeCen Project
    2. Thank you to all that have worked on this ???? Ingrid Billings -----Original Message----- From: Bev Howlett <bev.howlett56@gmail.com> Sent: 23 August 2019 17:56 To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Subject: [SFK-UK] Suffolk 1891 FreeCen Project Hi I am writing to provide an update on the 1891 Suffolk FreeCen project. Another 2 pieces have been uploaded to the on line database and are now searchable for free on the main freecen site at http://www.freecen.org.uk These are pieces RG121445 Cosford which covers the parishes of Bildeston, Brent Eleigh, Brettenham, Chelsworth, Cockfield, Cross Green, Hitcham, Kettlebaston, Lavenham, Milden, Monks Eleigh, Naughton, Nedging, Preston, Thorpe Morieux, Wattisham RG121494 Mutford which covers the parishes of Ashby, Blundeston, Campsheath, Corton, Flixton, Gunton, Herringfleet, Lound, Lowestoft, Mutfordbridge, Oulton, Somerleyton. This means that there are now 329,920 (92.1%) 1891 Suffolk census records available to search free on line. Many thanks to all the volunteers who have given their time freely to help the project without their help this information would not be available. Best wishes Bev -- Bev Howlett FreeCen Co-Ordinator Norfolk 1861,1871,1891 Suffolk 1841, 1871, 1891 Cambridge 1861, 1891 Surrey 1871,1891 Find Out How To Help http://www.freecen.org.uk _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/suffolk@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    08/23/2019 01:05:12
    1. [SFK-UK] Suffolk 1891 FreeCen Project
    2. Bev Howlett
    3. Hi I am writing to provide an update on the 1891 Suffolk FreeCen project. Another 2 pieces have been uploaded to the on line database and are now searchable for free on the main freecen site at http://www.freecen.org.uk These are pieces RG121445 Cosford which covers the parishes of Bildeston, Brent Eleigh, Brettenham, Chelsworth, Cockfield, Cross Green, Hitcham, Kettlebaston, Lavenham, Milden, Monks Eleigh, Naughton, Nedging, Preston, Thorpe Morieux, Wattisham RG121494 Mutford which covers the parishes of Ashby, Blundeston, Campsheath, Corton, Flixton, Gunton, Herringfleet, Lound, Lowestoft, Mutfordbridge, Oulton, Somerleyton. This means that there are now 329,920 (92.1%) 1891 Suffolk census records available to search free on line. Many thanks to all the volunteers who have given their time freely to help the project without their help this information would not be available. Best wishes Bev -- Bev Howlett FreeCen Co-Ordinator Norfolk 1861,1871,1891 Suffolk 1841, 1871, 1891 Cambridge 1861, 1891 Surrey 1871,1891 Find Out How To Help http://www.freecen.org.uk

    08/23/2019 10:56:19
    1. [SFK-UK] 1871 Suffolk FreeCen Project Update
    2. Bev Howlett
    3. Hi I am writing to provide an update on the 1871 Suffolk FreeCen project. Another piece has been uploaded to the on line database and is now searchable for free on the main freecen site at http://www.freecen.org.uk This is piece RG101729 Worlington which covers the parish of Cavenham, Tuddenham, Barton Mills, Herringswell, Kentford, Freckenham, Worlington, Mildenhall/West Row This means that there are now 176,731 (56.9%) 1871 Suffolk census records available to search free on line. Many thanks to all the volunteers who have given their time freely to help the project without their help this information would not be available. Best wishes Bev -- Bev Howlett FreeCen Co-Ordinator Norfolk 1861,1871,1891 Suffolk 1841, 1871, 1891 Cambridge 1861, 1891 Surrey 1871,1891 Find Out How To Help http://www.freecen.org.uk

    08/23/2019 10:55:31
    1. [SFK-UK] Burial in Mellis
    2. Neil Bowers
    3. Hi all, I wonder if some kind soul may be able to help me with a request. I have a burial for an Ann DODD in St Mary the Virgin, Mellis on 14th June 1835. The online transcriptions give her age as 23. I am looking for any other info on the stone, such as marital status, husband or maiden name. If anyone is visiting the churchyard in the near future could you keep a look out for the stone for me and note any details you find. Many thanks in advance, Neil Middleton

    08/12/2019 09:12:33