There are several persons who were from Suffolk who are recorded on the new London Lives website. http://www.londonlives.org/formPersName.jsp The prime search facility is by surname, but I was also able on one of their options to just search for references to Suffolk, and that showed that there are many references which should be of interest to researchers on this list. The data is mostly 18th century but there are references to other periods. Some of the data is a replication of: the PCC wills (on the TNA website), Old Bailey data (on the old Bailey website), and the London Guildhall records for insurance records (on the A2A website), but there are some records, particularly on the London sessions, which are new and which also have a link to the underlying original document. Altogether a useful website, and I very much look forward to seeing how people make use of the wiki that they are hoping to add to it for researchers to record biographical details of the persons identified in the records. Wishing you every success in your researches Giles Colchester, Researching COLCHESTER family, any spelling, any time, any place And PACKARD in Suffolk

David, the couple that now own the house only open to the public a couple of times a year. There is no actual tourist shop there, although they do have a few small items on sale, I did not see any postcards. We took a few photographs when visiting last year, will see what I have and forward them to you. Only some of the rooms are available to visitors. The couple themselves dress up in period costume, as did their children. Will keep a look out for their next opening weekend and advise you - might be worth reposting request at that time. Pat ... From: "David Vesey" <veseybrown@sympatico.ca> > Have been trying now for many weeks to contact the people at Otley Hall > but no response. Is there SKS on the List that might be able to pass by > and get for me > a postcard or photo of the portrait of Robert Gosnold and Ursula ( > Naunton) hanging in the Banqueting Room . > No rush - anytime would be great. > David Vesey > Toronto Canada

Have been trying now for many weeks to contact the people at Otley Hall but no response. Is there SKS on the List that might be able to pass by and get for me a postcard or photo of the portrait of Robert Gosnold and Ursula ( Naunton) hanging in the Banqueting Room . No rush - anytime would be great. David Vesey Toronto Canada

Folks, Every week or so (or whenever the digest gets to about 20 KB), I'm forwarding to the List those posts that have been "gatewayed" from RootsWeb's SUFFOLK Board that might contain information of interest to List subscribers, and here's the current "digest" of such gatewayed posts. If you wish to respond to any of these gatewayed posts, please do so by clicking on the relevant "Message Board URL:" link and NOT by responding either to the list OR to my address as the digest poster. Board posters will not see your List response unless they are also subscribed to the List, and most are not. PLEASE also be careful about responding to any post and inadvertently re-posting the ENTIRE digest to the list! More information on RootsWeb's Boards can be found at: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=faq&r=rw <http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=faq&r=rw>;; and the Board "home page" is at: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=main&r=rw <http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=main&r=rw>;; If you have any questions about the Boards or what the following is, pls contact me off-list at: SUFFOLK-admin@rootsweb.com <mailto: SUFFOLK-admin@rootsweb.com> Thanks, Peter SUFFOLK List Admin. -------------------------------------------------- Re: Maryanne MILLS b. 1814 Halesworth, Suffolk This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Gobbitt Surnames: MILLS Classification: cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8574.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Jennifer Maryanne's disappearance may indicate that she and her mother ended up in the Bulcamp House of Industry (http://www.workhouses.org.uk/index.html?Blything/Blything.shtml) after Nathaniel died in 1821. I hope I'm wrong, but it seems that burial records have not survived, although the workhouse graveyard was said to contain the bodies of more than 2,000 inmates in 2004 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/suffolk/3872539.stm). David -------------------------------------------------- Re: Maryanne MILLS b. 1814 Halesworth, Suffolk This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JenniferDancy Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8574.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for your observations which are very welcome. I found Nathnaiel's wife Elizabeth and her 20 year old son Thomas, who was my 2 x g/grandfather, on the 1841 census but no mention of Maryanne. I think the most likely cause of her disappearance from the records is that she died young but whether that was in the Workhouse or not definitely needs further work. I will continue looking..............J -------------------------------------------------- Fred Hamilton Brook This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dlbaker155 Surnames: Brook, Stimpson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8577/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for family connections related to Fred Hamilton Brook in England (New Market, Suffolk). Was married to either Barbara Stimpson or Peggy Stimpson, or both at some time. Father of Geraldine Stimpson Brook and Jacqueline Ann Stimpson Brook. Lived around 1920's. We know nothing more. -------------------------------------------------- Re: Rhoda Lock This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: chrisfordwich Surnames: Lock/French Classification: marriage Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8533.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: from London marriages on Ancestry: Samuel French (bachelor) married Rhoda Lock (spinster) at St Mary, Haggerston on 2 November 1835 by Robert Crosby. Witnesses: John Johnson and F (I think it's F) Harris Hope this helps Christine -------------------------------------------------- oslers This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bmccartie Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8578/mb.ashx Message Board Post: hannah elizabeth dunnett...father was john thomas dunnett born 1838.in hackford norfolk,southery. i think her maiden name was osler parents martha maiden name brown,father george osler.,please email me at brendamccartie@btinternet.com regards brenda x -------------------------------------------------- Re: Fred Hamilton Brook This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Merice46 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8577.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Marriage reg. Peggie Stimpson - Fred Brook Bury St Edmunds 4a 1477 Mar.Qtr 1939 Barbara L Stimpson - Kenneth W Doble Huntingdonshire North 3b 943 Sep.Qtr 1941 Regards Sandra -------------------------------------------------- Re: Murkin / FITCH This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jarrodcorliabell Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/1039.1198.1222.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: We also have FITCH from Hundon, Suffolf, recently discovered. We have a number of censuses, the main line if Joseph FITCH (b. ca 1812) who married Philadelphia ?? (b ca 1812 Suffolk) Any information gladly shared and received please? Regards, The Bells. -------------------------------------------------- Re: ROW: Suffolk Wills - 1700 to 1900 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: smyttie66 Surnames: SMYTH, SPENCER Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/2832.11/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Could you please tell me the names on the SMYTH will? I am looking for Thomas and children Ann, James, John. The wife to Thomas was Elizabeth SPENCER who died in 1807. They lived in Wangford cum Southwold. Thank you. -------------------------------------------------- Re: ROW: Suffolk Wills - 1700 to 1900 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: smyttie66 Surnames: SMYTH, SPENCER Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/2832.11.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sorry! I see now that we were in touch before and you very kindly sent me some info on the SMYTHs of Peasenhall, but I have not found a connection with them either. I have made a little headway on the SPENCER side of that family, thanks to the help of a fellow researcher, but the SMYTHs are my brick wall at the moment. Dawn -------------------------------------------------- Re: Murkin / FITCH This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: glemsue Surnames: Fitch,Osborn Classification: marriage Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/1039.1198.1222.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: >From the Suffolk Marriage Index. Joseph Fitch Philadelphia Osborn 6th June, 1834 Hundon -------------------------------------------------- Lookup Lowestoft Sfk Eng Pls This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: olleycdn Surnames: Olley and marriages Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8579/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Transcribe tombstone info St. Margaret's Par. Church; OLLEY surname; 11 buried btwn 1745-1812. These might be grave numbers: 7, 36, 39, 46, 57, 58, 64, 91, 96, 121, 137. Seeking parents/ances of Geo.Olley b. btwn 1797-1804 Sfk; orphan. M.1828 S.Lopham Nfk Barbara Ann Carman d. 1831. Will trade for similar help in my locale Alberta Canada. Thank you. -------------------------------------------------- Re: Lookup Lowestoft Sfk Eng Pls This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: crusoe123 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8579.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You will be very lucky to find gravestones for the years indicated. A lot of them would be now unreadable, and often they are removed. There is a site with gravestone information for St. Margarets. http://www.gravestonephotos.com/public/az.php?letter=O The stones listed for Olley are:- full name birth year burial year age relationship cemetery parish town county country GPR reference number image availablity This page contains a list of all the entries for the name OLLEY that are held within the Gravestone Photographic Resource online database. It is quite likely that there are also entries available for alternative spellings of this name. It is very easy for you to check to see if there are any alternative spellings: you just need to look at the page that shows all the names listed under the starting letter (O in this case) of the surname you are interested in. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alice Olley wife of George Edward Olley All Saints Upper Sheringham Norfolk England 21255 available Daniel Olley St Gregory Barnham Norfolk England 18686 available Elizabeth Olley 1839 1925 86 mother of Ethel Olley All Saints Upper Sheringham Norfolk England 21157 available Elizabeth Ann Olley 1866 1920 54 unknown of Joseph John Nightingale All Saints Upper Sheringham Norfolk England 21334 available Ethel Olley 1880 1899 19 All Saints Upper Sheringham Norfolk England 21157 available George Edward Olley 1882 1911 29 All Saints Upper Sheringham Norfolk England 21255 available Jacob Olley 1777 1846 69 St Gregory Barnham Norfolk England 18687 available John Wilson Olley 1867 1867 0 son of Robert Pigott Olley All Saints Upper Sheringham Norfolk England 21154 available Maria Olley 1827 1880 53 St Peter Bramerton Norfolk England 18901 available Martha Olley 1866 1946 80 Municipal Kirkley Suffolk England 8266 Mary Olley wife of Jacob Olley St Gregory Barnham Norfolk England 18687 available Robert Pigott Olley 1834 1881 47 All Saints Upper Sheringham Norfolk England 21154 available Robert Pigott Olley father of Ethel Olley All Saints Upper Sheringham Norfolk England 21157 available Samuel Olley 1821 1894 73 husband of Maria Olley St Peter Bramerton Norfolk England 18901 available William Wilson Olley 1871 1901 30 brother of Ethel Olley All Saints Upper Sheringham Norfolk England 21157 available William Wilson Olley (Private) 1871 1901 30 All Saints Upper Sheringham Norfolk England 21388 available -------------------------------------------------- Samuel Catchpole This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: maetwaroo Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8580/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Can anyone help me please, I cannot find a birth certificate of Samuel Catchpole born in Framlingham. He married Ann Smith 1790. He died age 90 in 1854, and she died age 94, He must have been born in 1764, I do not know either of his parent, or any of his siblings I have 7 of his children. I would appreciate any help or suggestions of where to go next, Thank you, Margaret -------------------------------------------------- Re: George Olley brn:1797 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: theolleys Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8531.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Bruce Just seen your post. Do you know Lois Olley in Canada? She contacte me today about George. This is the reply I sent her though I guess you know it all anyway. Doing some research for Lois I found a George Olley in Bury St Edmunds Prison (Suffolk) on 8 November 1831 serving 4 weeks for poaching with hingles (no idea what they are) don't have George in my tree; my Olleys go back to 1610 in Finchingfield in the north of Essex; it's highly likely that George is a relative but I've no idea what the connection is. However being a nosey bugger on a Sunday morning with very little to do I have done some research (you may already know this): Name: George OLLEY Sex: M Birth: 25 DEC 1797 in Stanton, Suffolkshire, England Death: 5 DEC 1906 in Great Bend, Wilna, Jefferson, NY Burial: West Carthage, Champion, Jefferson, NY Note: >From Child's Gazetteer of Jefferson County--Town of Wilna. "George Olley was born in England, in 1802, and in 1832 immigrated to this country. In 1834, he married Ann Hunter, who was born in Ireland in 1801. About 1838 he removed to the town of Champion, and there remained until 1865, when he located in Wilna, on road 70, where he now resides with his son James. He had born to him eight children, of whom William served in Co. C, 94th N.Y Vols., came home on furlough, and died November 25, 1864. Robert enlisted in Co. H, 186th N.Y. Vols., was in the battle of Cedar Mountain, August 9, 1862, in the battles of Rappahannock, Thoroughfare Gap, and second Bull Run, Chancellorsville, and Gettysburg; was taken prisoner and paroled; was discharged February, 28, 1864, at Camp Parole, by reason reenlistment as a veteran volunteer; was in the battle of Weldon Railraod, and was again taken prisoner, August 19, 1864, and was confined in Libby Prison, and subsequently tranferred to Buell Island and Salisbury, N.C. He was paroled February 28, 1865,! and mustered out June 11, 1865. He married Sarah Ann, daughter of Benona Goldthrite, by whom he has had six children, viz: Minnie B., Cora T., who died April 29, 1870, Adah E., J. Herbert, Cora E., who died Mar 22, 1886, and George B.. George Olley Jr. enlisted in Co. I, 94th N.Y. Vols., and was drum-major of the regiment. He died in 1870. Samuel D., another son of George Sr., died young. Mary Ann died at the age of 19 years. Margaret J. married Chester Goldthrite, and resides at Felt's Mills." Note: 15 Oct 1905 in the Carthage Republican "George Olley, 107 years old, cast his 86th ballot last week at Deferiet, voting the straight Republican ticket as he has every time election day has come around. Mr. Olley claims that since he came to this state from England and became a citizen he has never missed an election day." Note: 16 Aug 1905 in the Carthage Republican Death of Joseph Labonte "Joseph Labonte, aged 107 years, probaly the oldest resident of this state, died yesterday at 11:40 o'clock at the Old Peoples Home in Ogdensburg. ..... The death of this centenarian leaves the honor of "oldest resident" to George Olley, of this town, who is 106 years old." Note: AT THE AGE OF 106 George Olley as Active as a Kitten, and Visiting Friends in the West "George Olley, of Carthage, who is 106 years of age, and as active as a kitten, is at present enjoying a visit wih his granddaughter, Mrs. John Wright, at Nilses, Mich. He left Carthage on the 106th anniversary of his birth and made the trip without taking advantage of a sleeper. In all his travels, and he is continually visiting relatives in far-away places, he has never indulged in the Pullman sleeper. Mr. Olley never wore glasses. His eyesight is yet unimpaired, and he is a omniverous reader, keeping fully abreast of the times, not only on matters of current news, but in History topics as well. His memory is wonderful, and he can discuss anything from Shak [ends] -------------------------------------------------- Re: Samuel Catchpole This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: crusoe123 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8580.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You will not find a birth certificate for the date you mention. Civil Registration only came into being in 1837. Before that date you have to rely on baptismal records, which means you may have to search Parish by Parish, and then, you may only get the name of the child, and possibly only one parent. Not many are online, and I cannot find your Samuel. -------------------------------------------------- Re: George Olley brn:1797 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: glemsue Surnames: Olley,Carman Classification: marriage Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8531.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Marriage George Olley of Stanton Suffolk Ann Barbara Carman by banns 26th December, 1829 SOUTH LOPHAM, NORFOLK witnesses John Carman Jane Newman -------------------------------------------------- Re: Lookup Lowestoft Sfk Eng Rqd This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: olleycdn Surnames: Olley and marriages Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8579.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I know of the link you offered me and thank you for taking the time to reply. Both parents of my ancestor George (b 1797) died somewhere between 1797 and 1810 (best guess). He was orphaned as a young boy. I found an internet site recently that claims they sell CD's with this period info. But as Ancestry has people who register to help with this type of lookup I am asking. Thanks again. -------------------------------------------------- Re: George Olley brn:1797 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: olleycdn Surnames: Olley, Carman, Hunter Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8531.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks glemsue; Canadian Olley here. I found out that Bruce Olley and I are related through the sons of "Uncle" George. My father emigrated to Canada in 1951. There were mistakes in newspaper articles about "Uncle George". Some had him born 1802, 1804. Our family has always known it was Dec 25, 1797. Census birth years were worked out from the persons age at the time of the census and that left a one year margin for error. I have a document declaring George's son, John, was christened in 1831 S. Lopham NFK so he could not have been born in 1833. Our family has info Geo emigrated from UK yr 1832 with infant son (no mention of 1 st wife with). There was a cholera pandemic spreading throughout Europe 1832 and brought to the New World on board ship. I paid a look-up in Suffolk to check birth and death records in Suffolk parishes for George and his parents and families in the era around his birth until he emigrated to N. America 1832. The report back showed nothing on record. In the past few days I found a William Olley and Martha Child of Lowestoft, Suffolk married at St. Botolph, Aldgate, London, in 1772. They were about the right age and about 40 miles East of Stanton Suffolk but the trail stopped dead again. The Child's gazetteer (and PIONEER Families of ....)is an invaluable tool for those starting their NY searches. At this stage we are going to England for ancestors and it is a brick wall situation that will require either much money or ancestry.com folk to help with lookups. Anyone out there needing basic info help here are some sites: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nylewis/oldlow.htm Haddock Genea Sketches http://jefferson.nygenweb.net/hadind.htm http://wellswooster.com/tree/showsource.php?sourceID=S274&tree=bryant http://www.thedorsetpage.com/genealogy/index.htm http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hubbard/NNY_index/surnames.html http://www.opcdorset.org/FordingtonFiles/FordingtonMarriages1.htm http://jefferson.nygenweb.net/pions.htm -------------------------------------------------- Re: George Olley brn:1797 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BruceOlley Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8531.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks to everyone for replying. Interpreting what is in the news articles. I am to believe that George left England with Barbara Carmen and son John. It seams to me that they had landed in New Brunswick, which is about where I assume Barbara had past away. He then Married Ann Hunter in Watertown, New York. One thing I keep seeing on this web site is the mention of Mary Ann Hunter. Most of the news articles and her head stone state Ann Hunter. However her parentage is missing as well. ------------------------------------------------- Re: George Olley brn:1797 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: glemsue Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8531.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: >From http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start it says John son of George and Barbara was baptised in Stanton in 1831. There is also a bap. for a George 26/12/1805 for a George, with just mother Mary listed. This could be your George and he may have been illegitemate.He could have been bap. as a young child and not as a baby. ------------------------------------------------- Re: George Olley brn:1797 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BruceOlley Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8531.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If it helps the time line any for finding further information. From the Paper, The Standard... "He was born in England on Christmas Day, 1797. He enlisted in the British Army when a boy, but his grandfather bought him out before the battle of Waterloo. He saw Queen Victoria when she was a girl, before she was crowned. When about 40 years of age, he came to America. He resided at St. Johns, New Brunswick." ------------------------------------------------- Re: George Olley brn:1797 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BruceOlley Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8531.3.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Here is another passage from a different paper, name of paper unknown... "He told how the grandsire, a rugged old Suffolkshire sheperd, who brought him up after the death of his parents in his infancy. Took him in a cart, as a boy of 5 years, to a neighboring city that they might see his Majesty George III ride through the streets while making a journey to the castle of one of his barons. The old Brunswicker, as George remembered him, was an imposing looking man with a big red face and a white plumed chappeau. He was preceded by a squad of buglers and a detachment of mounted guards armed with long pole axes, while more halberdiers, rode behind the royal coach. He told too, as he had on many Christmas night before, of the great celebration in England when the mewscame of the defeat of Napoleon at Waterloo by Wellington, when from Snowden to Ben Nevisevery mountain top in the United Kingdom blazed with the great bale fires prepared for calling out the yeomanry to repel the dreaded French invasion, but which were kindled when such need of them no longer existed to glorify the return of piece." "George was born and raised near the village of Stanton, England, and work on his Grandshires farm as a ploughman and sheppard. When 26years old, he was married in the Parrish church, to Barbara Ann Carman, a peasent girl, and four years later sailed with his young wife and infant son for Amarica. The passage by the old brig Nell Gwyane taking eight weeks. Soon after arriving here his wife died. He took up a farm in the then wild region of the Black River Valley at Great Bend, and soon after married Miss Ann Hunter of this City, who was born in Ireland in 1801, of English parentage." ------------------------------------------------- Re: George Olley brn:1797 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: theolleys Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8531.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There are actually 3 Stantons in Suffolk; Stanton proper and nearby Stanton Chare. About 10 miles to the south is Stanton Street a small hamelt close to the village of Norton whose parish church is St Andrews; it may be worth searching for George there. A second point is that George appeared to be a Methodist; most searches pre 1831 are carried out through parish records; if George were baptised a Methodist he would not be in the parish records which may explain why your researcher was not able to locate him Mark -------------------------------------------------

An interesting site, naming some of the children who were sent to South Africa, in the 1830's, by the Children's Friend Society. Originally called the Society for the Suppression of Juvenile Vagrancy _http://www.genealogyworld.net/immigration/children/children_1.html_ (http://www.genealogyworld.net/immigration/children/children_1.html)

>From Hobart Town Gazette ( Tas.: 1825 -1827 ) ( Australia ) Saturday 22 October 1825. Page 1s. RUNAWAY NOTICE. POLICE OFFICE, HOBART TOWN, October 21, 1825. The undermentioned Persons having absented themselves from their usual Places of Residence, all Constables and Others are hereby required to use their utmost Exertions to apprehend and lodge them in safe Custody. A. W. H. HUMPHREY , Superintendent of Police. 96. AYLWARD , Peter, 5 feet 5 3/4 ins. light brown hair, hazel eyes, 31 years of age, a farmer's labourer, tried at Suffolk Jan. 17, 1820, sentence 7 years, arrived by the Juliana, born at Polstead in Suffolk, several scars on the back of the right hand, on his upper lip, and between his eyebrows, absconded from the Public Works June 30, 1825. Two Reward.

Hi Janice There is an official adoption register since 1927 however you need to be the adopted person or the parent to go further There is not public access to the register Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi All > > I am entering the realms of the unknown I believe that my Gt Uncle Jesse > Barnes well his 2nd wife adopted 3 children I am guessing while he was > alive > they married in 1936 & he died in 1961 > > They lived at Brooklyn Cottage Great Barton, what I been told is that she > adopted 3 children 1 being a baby from a Irish lass & the other 2 were > older > at the time of adoption I don't know much else at present. > > This got me wondering if there is a register to check out people who adopt > children as I mean you can't check the GRO for a birth for them so where > does one look > > Regards Janice

Hi All I am entering the realms of the unknown I believe that my Gt Uncle Jesse Barnes well his 2nd wife adopted 3 children I am guessing while he was alive they married in 1936 & he died in 1961 They lived at Brooklyn Cottage Great Barton, what I been told is that she adopted 3 children 1 being a baby from a Irish lass & the other 2 were older at the time of adoption I don't know much else at present. This got me wondering if there is a register to check out people who adopt children as I mean you can't check the GRO for a birth for them so where does one look Regards Janice

Thanks Mavis I have Julia & Charles on the 1911 census but not much on Charles as yet before that I have to still do more work on him when I can Regards Janice -----Original Message----- From: suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mavis Dent Sent: 30 June 2010 03:27 To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] Pettitt/Rampling & Pettitt/Isaacson Hello Janice, Checked the 1911 Census Charles Isaacson, born 1880 Kirtling, Cambridgeshire, he is a farm Labourer. Wife, Julia Alice born 1884 Upend, Cambridgeshire. Address: The Street, Kirtling, Cambridgeshire. Can check other Census's if you wish. Mavis.

Thanks Anne It be nice if I can find someone who connected to the family I been added family to the tree it funny how I get all the info on off shoots rather than my branch as such it always a member of my direct line sibling or their spouse rather than my actual direct line Regards Janice -----Original Message----- From: suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anne Chambers Sent: 30 June 2010 03:24 To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] Pettitt/Rampling & Pettitt/Isaacson You can get the quarter the children were registered from FreeBMD http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl Births Sep 1883 PETTITT Julia Alice Newmarket 3b 507 Births Sep 1885 Pettitt Jane Newmarket 3b 503 Births Dec 1887 Pettitt Florence Rosa Newmarket 3b 502 Marriages Dec 1881 PETTITT Thomas Newmarket 3b 1167 RAMPLING Elizabeth Mary Newmarket 3b 1167 Susan's birth doesn't seem to be on the index but she married in 1911 either Frederick Bannister or William Wheeler (could be either as there are quite a few Bannister & Wheeler births from 1912 with mother's surname Pettitt) Marriages Dec 1911 Pettitt Susan E Newmarket 3b 1249 in 1911, she is shown as Susan Elizabeth and is a cook in Cambridge, so she probably married William Wheeler as the Wheeler children were born in Cambridge. HTH Anne South Australia

Hi Nivard. Thanks once again for you help and suggestions. James and Charles were brothers sons of Thomas and Elizabeth. Therewere a lot of Messenger families living in Marlesford. I am going to send for the birth certificate for William born September 1858 Son of Charles and see what it comes up with.Hopefully no new surprises. Thank you once again Regards Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <ovington1@sky.com> To: <suffolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 11:57 PM Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] William Messenger son of Charles > Hi again > > There are two William MESSENGER births registered in 1858 in Plomesgate > > Plomesgate is the registration district, it covers many places see :- > http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/plomesgate.html > > Any birth that occurred in the list of places that Plomesgate covers > *should* be registered there, including Marlesford > > To explain my logic in suggesting the later birth reg is yours > > These are the two Marlesford baptisms > > WILLIAM MESSENGER > Christening: > 16 APR 1858 Marlesford, Suffolk, England > Father: JAMES MESSENGER > Mother: MARY > C062691 1813 - 1876 0919624 Film 883882 Film > > WILLIAM MESSENGER > Christening: > 26 SEP 1858 Marlesford, Suffolk, England > Father: CHARLES MESSENGER > Mother: MARY > C062691 1813 - 1876 0919624 Film 883882 Film > > And the two birth registrations > > Births Jun 1858 > Messenger William Plomesgate 4a 602 > > Births Sep 1858 > Messenger William Plomesgate 4a 563 > > Most baptisms occurred soon after birth and the two baptisms fit into the > periods in which the birth would be registered > > So the later baptism is most likely to be the later birth registered > > If the register was transcribed to the IGI by the same person you could > understand why they still had a Mary in their mind when they got to the > second William being baptized (although there is also an Alice with > parents > Charles & Mary) > > In 1861 James & Marys William is enumerated as 3 years old, Charles & > Eliza's as 2 years old > > The birth cert will give you the mothers maiden name and often an address > (which may be the same as the 1861 address > > Personally I would not be surprised to find both Williams were born in > Marlesford and there was a family relationship between James and Charles > (such as brothers, both sons of Thomas and Elizabeth) > > The most likely marriages are > > Marriages Dec 1845 > JAYE Mary Plomesgate 12 792 > MESSENGER James Plomesgate 12 792 > > Marriages Mar 1853 > CABLE Eliza Plomesgate 4a 809 > MESSENGER Charles Plomesgate 4a 809 > > With family history there is always room for errors to creep in so keep > your > mind open to them :-) > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > >> Hi Ken, >> >> Thank you for your reply. >> I did see the birth notice at Plomsgate. Where is that in relation to >> Marlesford? Is the Marlesford register available on line?. I live in >> Australia so it is not possible for me to get there. >> I acn't see a James Messenger b1852 in my line of Messengers. >> >> Regards >> >> Liz > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Janice, Checked the 1911 Census Charles Isaacson, born 1880 Kirtling, Cambridgeshire, he is a farm Labourer. Wife, Julia Alice born 1884 Upend, Cambridgeshire. Address: The Street, Kirtling, Cambridgeshire. Can check other Census's if you wish. Mavis. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice12" <janice.aitkens12@ntlworld.com> To: <suffolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 12:42 AM Subject: [SFK-UK] Pettitt/Rampling & Pettitt/Isaacson > Hi All > > I have had some major computer problems so not only have I lost what I > been > working on late the week before & early last week but not had any e-mails > so > unable to reply I have since got a new computer & am trying to figure it > all > out. > > Anyway looking for Julia Alice Pettitt she the daughter of Thomas & > Elizabeth Pettitt nee Rampling they had the following children Susan b abt > 1882 Kirtling, Julia Alice b abt 1884 Kirtling, Jane b abt 1886 Kirtling & > Florence b abt 1888 Kirtling. > > Julia married Charles Isaacson 1904 > > Any help or connection to these in your tree > > Regards Janice > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

You can get the quarter the children were registered from FreeBMD http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl Births Sep 1883 PETTITT Julia Alice Newmarket 3b 507 Births Sep 1885 Pettitt Jane Newmarket 3b 503 Births Dec 1887 Pettitt Florence Rosa Newmarket 3b 502 Marriages Dec 1881 PETTITT Thomas Newmarket 3b 1167 RAMPLING Elizabeth Mary Newmarket 3b 1167 Susan's birth doesn't seem to be on the index but she married in 1911 either Frederick Bannister or William Wheeler (could be either as there are quite a few Bannister & Wheeler births from 1912 with mother's surname Pettitt) Marriages Dec 1911 Pettitt Susan E Newmarket 3b 1249 in 1911, she is shown as Susan Elizabeth and is a cook in Cambridge, so she probably married William Wheeler as the Wheeler children were born in Cambridge. HTH Anne South Australia Janice12 wrote: > Hi All > > I have had some major computer problems so not only have I lost what I been > working on late the week before& early last week but not had any e-mails so > unable to reply I have since got a new computer& am trying to figure it all > out. > > Anyway looking for Julia Alice Pettitt she the daughter of Thomas& > Elizabeth Pettitt nee Rampling they had the following children Susan b abt > 1882 Kirtling, Julia Alice b abt 1884 Kirtling, Jane b abt 1886 Kirtling& > Florence b abt 1888 Kirtling. > > Julia married Charles Isaacson 1904 > > Any help or connection to these in your tree > > Regards Janice

Hi, Thank you to all those kind people who replied to my e-mail. I will certainly look into whether there were any relatives in NZ (although I wasn't aware of any at the time). Its amazing how far news can travel!!! Many thanks again Rebecca

Yes, there is a Local History Recorder for the parish of Chedburgh. Details sent off list. Pat ... Patricia Bridges ~ Hon Recorders' Secretary Suffolk Local History Council http://www.slhc.org.uk/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Vesey" <veseybrown@sympatico.ca> > Thanks to Pat/Ann/ Brian for taking the time > to get back to me on this. > Now the real problem on how to find family living there circa > 1340s......is there an LHR to help? > > Best regards from sunny Toronto > David

There is an MI at Fressingfield - much later than the dates you are querying, but maybe a family line - for "Mary the wife of James Girling who died 27th May 1824 aged 25 years" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Sokalofsky" <vesey@dccnet.com> To: <suffolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] William Girling > Hi Jim > I'm not able to help with your William but I do have a Mary Girling born > abt. 1720 who married Simon Bear abt. 1751. My Bear family and their > connections need some work as I have not been able to research it yet > myself...so this information has not been proved by me. I have their son > John Bear born 1749 in Foxall, married Ann Cooke 1777 in Marlesham. John > and Ann died in Kirton. > Any connections? > Linda > B.C. > Canada > > > I am trying to find the Suffolk connection to a William Girling who went > to > East Dereham, Norfolk where he married Marg Goddard Feb 26, 1722/23. I > have > been informed he was christened Nov 1,1702 in Fressingfield, Suffolk. I > have also been informed that his father was Anthony Girling. I would > like > to find out his mother's name, date of birth and any other family members > that would enable me to research further back into Suffolk of this > Girling > branch of the family. Girling was my deceased wife's maiden name and I > am > trying to continue her research. Thank-you for any assistance you can > give > me. Cheers. Jim Lawrence > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to Pat/Ann/ Brian for taking the time to get back to me on this. Now the real problem on how to find family living there circa 1340s......is there an LHR to help? Best regards from sunny Toronto David

Hi All I have had some major computer problems so not only have I lost what I been working on late the week before & early last week but not had any e-mails so unable to reply I have since got a new computer & am trying to figure it all out. Anyway looking for Julia Alice Pettitt she the daughter of Thomas & Elizabeth Pettitt nee Rampling they had the following children Susan b abt 1882 Kirtling, Julia Alice b abt 1884 Kirtling, Jane b abt 1886 Kirtling & Florence b abt 1888 Kirtling. Julia married Charles Isaacson 1904 Any help or connection to these in your tree Regards Janice

Hi again There are two William MESSENGER births registered in 1858 in Plomesgate Plomesgate is the registration district, it covers many places see :- http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/plomesgate.html Any birth that occurred in the list of places that Plomesgate covers *should* be registered there, including Marlesford To explain my logic in suggesting the later birth reg is yours These are the two Marlesford baptisms WILLIAM MESSENGER Christening: 16 APR 1858 Marlesford, Suffolk, England Father: JAMES MESSENGER Mother: MARY C062691 1813 - 1876 0919624 Film 883882 Film WILLIAM MESSENGER Christening: 26 SEP 1858 Marlesford, Suffolk, England Father: CHARLES MESSENGER Mother: MARY C062691 1813 - 1876 0919624 Film 883882 Film And the two birth registrations Births Jun 1858 Messenger William Plomesgate 4a 602 Births Sep 1858 Messenger William Plomesgate 4a 563 Most baptisms occurred soon after birth and the two baptisms fit into the periods in which the birth would be registered So the later baptism is most likely to be the later birth registered If the register was transcribed to the IGI by the same person you could understand why they still had a Mary in their mind when they got to the second William being baptized (although there is also an Alice with parents Charles & Mary) In 1861 James & Marys William is enumerated as 3 years old, Charles & Eliza's as 2 years old The birth cert will give you the mothers maiden name and often an address (which may be the same as the 1861 address Personally I would not be surprised to find both Williams were born in Marlesford and there was a family relationship between James and Charles (such as brothers, both sons of Thomas and Elizabeth) The most likely marriages are Marriages Dec 1845 JAYE Mary Plomesgate 12 792 MESSENGER James Plomesgate 12 792 Marriages Mar 1853 CABLE Eliza Plomesgate 4a 809 MESSENGER Charles Plomesgate 4a 809 With family history there is always room for errors to creep in so keep your mind open to them :-) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Ken, > > Thank you for your reply. > I did see the birth notice at Plomsgate. Where is that in relation to > Marlesford? Is the Marlesford register available on line?. I live in > Australia so it is not possible for me to get there. > I acn't see a James Messenger b1852 in my line of Messengers. > > Regards > > Liz

Hi Nivard, Thank you for your reply.How can I check the transcript? I have a basic Ancestry subscription but is does not allow me to view Baptisms.Is there any other way before I send for the certificate. Regards Liz in Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <ovington1@sky.com> To: <suffolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] William Messenger son of Charles > Hi Liz > > Although the 1858 entry is an extraction it is still a transcript > > Check the original baptism to see if the mother is recorded as Mary or > Eliza > although the mistake could be by the Vicar and either way will not tell > you > the mothers name (unless he was illegitimate) > > Ultimately the way forward would be to obtain the birth cert for William > which will give his mothers maiden name which is most likely Eliza CABLE > > Given the dates of the baptisms, the later birth is most likely to be > yours > > Births Sep 1858 > Messenger William Plomesgate 4a 563 > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > >> Hi Everyone, >> >> I have always found the people on this list very helpfull in the past and >> I am hoping that you can help me once again. >> >> I have Charles Messenger born 1832 Marlesford Suffolk who had a son >> William born about 1858. I have found Charles on the census with his >> family 1861,81,91,01. And his wife is always listed as Eliza. I have >> found >> a marriage for Charles and Eliza Cable 1853 in Marlesford. >> >> Family search has William Messenger Christened 26th September 1858 father >> Charles and mother Mary surname unknown.I have not been able to find a >> marriage for Charles and Mary nor have I been able to find them on the >> census. >> >> Both famlies seem to have had children by the names of William, Alice and >> Walter >> >> My great grandfather is William Messenger and on his marriage cert for >> 1883 he is age 25 and his father is Charles.I would really like to know >> who his mother is. >> >> Hope someone can help me >> Regards >> >> Liz > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message