Hi Nivard As I understand it Peter is an adopted son, & her mother was Fisk(e) so my guess that Peter just made a mistake I don't know may be & I have at this point no reason to think it but may be his mother was a Fisk & a relation to Doris so that how he came to put that down, also back then I wonder how many people knew their mother's maiden name even with this being 1978 Regards Janice -----Original Message----- From: suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: 12 July 2010 09:42 To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] What was on the Death Certificate Hi Janice It is the information as supplied by the informant, Peter in this case Its only in later years that any checking was done to verify the details were correct For some reason he thought her maiden name was FISK so thats what he gave or he knowingly gave false information, only you can decide if thats the case Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Janice, I can't help you with your computer problems but maybe when Peter was asked for his mother's maiden name he possibly thought that he was asked for HER mother's maiden name. The information on death certificates is only as good as the informant gives (or knows). Regards, Margery ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice12" <janice.aitkens12@ntlworld.com> To: <suffolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 2:33 AM Subject: [SFK-UK] What was on the Death Certificate > Hi All > > I am still trying to work the computer, latest problem is I save an image > of > the census I have a folder for each of the years yet when I go to look at > it > well it just not there I search did searches ect yet if I go to save it > again it does say do I wish to overwrite existing image. > > Well I getting of the subject I just got Doris Gertrude Barnes nee > Gillings > death certificate she died in 1978 & the informant is given as son Peter > Barnes where it asks for maiden name it has FISK which is strange as this > was her mum's maiden name (FISKE) she wasn't the first child & her birth > is > registered under GILLINGS so anyone got any ideas why the name is given as > Fisk. > > I have checked with the GRO & they have e-mailed me back to say that they > check with Blyth & it was what was given, well I did wonder if the GRO > made > a mistake but no mistake been made or at least no official made a mistake > just Peter who I believe was adopted am still waiting to hear more on him > & > I been told there was 3 adopted children so have to wait for that info. > > Regards Janice > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Janice It is the information as supplied by the informant, Peter in this case Its only in later years that any checking was done to verify the details were correct For some reason he thought her maiden name was FISK so thats what he gave or he knowingly gave false information, only you can decide if thats the case Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Well I getting of the subject I just got Doris Gertrude Barnes nee > Gillings > death certificate she died in 1978 & the informant is given as son Peter > Barnes where it asks for maiden name it has FISK which is strange as this > was her mum's maiden name (FISKE) she wasn't the first child & her birth > is > registered under GILLINGS so anyone got any ideas why the name is given as > Fisk. > > I have checked with the GRO & they have e-mailed me back to say that they > check with Blyth & it was what was given, well I did wonder if the GRO > made > a mistake but no mistake been made or at least no official made a mistake > just Peter who I believe was adopted am still waiting to hear more on him > & > I been told there was 3 adopted children so have to wait for that info. > > Regards Janice

Folks, although a worthy topic for discussion, this falls into the category of "political posts" and is therefore off-topic for the SUFFOLK List. Pls continue the discussion amongst yourselves OFF-LIST. Thanks, Peter SUFFOLK List Admin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Partridge" <r.partridge@ukonline.co.uk> To: <suffolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 10:51 AM Subject: [SFK-UK] Fwd: [Ess] The final Census? Hi Listers ! <snip>

Hi Listers ! This rather worrying item has appeared on the Essex List with a request that it be passed on to other Lists. There have been some responses - the thread can be seen on the Essex List Archive. Please spread the word ! Best Wishes ! Roger. ----------------------- Begin forwarded message: > From: Steve <steveshistory2@yahoo.co.uk> > Date: 11 July 2010 12:00:54 BDT > To: DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com, Essex post <Essex-UK@rootsweb.com>, > North East Ancestors <NE_Ancestors@ndfhs.org.uk>, > ENG-NORTH-YORKS <ENG-NORTH-YORKS@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [Ess] The final Census? > > An article in Friday's Telegraph has been drawn to my attention, where > Francis Maude, Cabinet Office minister, says that the government has > already decided to scrap future censuses. > > Linked to here http://tinyurl.com/32982aq > > I copy my response below, which I am going to send to my MP through > http://www.theyworkforyou.com/ and I would suggest that anybody > else who > finds this as worrying as I do, do the same. > > Regards > Steve > > > "Mr Maude, who has responsibility for the Census, told The Daily > Telegraph that the Government was looking for a “fundamentally” better > way of doing it. “There are, I believe, ways of doing this which will > provide better, quicker information, more frequently and cheaper,” he > said. " > > So having decided that the current method is too expensive, they have > decided to do away with the current method and find a fundamentally > better way. > > Isn't that the wrong way round? Shouldn't you prove that there is a > fundamentally better way, and how long it will take to set up, before > making the decision to go a different route. > > "Instead, the Government is examining different and cheaper ways to > count the population more regularly, using existing public and private > databases, including credit reference agencies. " > > And we all know how accurate public and private databases are. And > that > everybody is included in them. Only once. > > "Mr Maude said the Census was “out of date almost before it has > been done" > > Durh! Well obviously! Any count of living beings is only correct at > the > time that it is done and unless you have enough counters then the > numbers will change during the counting. People are born, people die. > And a substantial minority of people will not be at any home on the > day > of the census. People are a problem. > > "Mr Maude said he hoped that the new way of counting the population > would be less intrusive. Questions for next year include the name, sex > and date of birth of any visitors staying overnight." > > As has every census since at least 1851. > > Pass this on to all mailing groups and forums you are members of > because > these idiots need to be stopped from penny pinching in a way that is > going to lead to greater future government waste when they have even > more inaccurate figures on which to base their planning, never mind > what > it will do to future Family Historians. >

Hi all from Aust, My first posting to this list regards a Mary FULCHER, born at Wickham Market in 1829. Parents were David FULCHER and Anne ? and her siblings were Nathaniel b1823, and Rachel b1827. I have not been able to find the marriage entry for David and Anne, nor Anne's surname, so if anyone is connected to this family, or can point me in the right direction, I would love to hear from you. Cheers, Robyn of Oz.

I have just transcribed the PCC will of Letitia Sparrow which was proved in 1808 and written in 1796 which might be of interest to some Suffolk researchers. The names which are mention in it are: Letitia Sparrow of Ipswich, Spinster, with land in Somersham Mary Minter, niece Sarah Minter, sister Deborah Death, niece, lived in Ipswich. Benjamin Colchester, nephew in law, lived in Ipswich Sarah Tong, widow, niece Thomas Bristo, witness Charles Squire, witness James Coe, witness If anyone has information on any of the above persons, I would be most interested to hear from them. Wishing you every success in your researches Giles Colchester, Researching COLCHESTER family, any spelling, any time, any place And PACKARD in Suffolk

I will check my Fiche for METFIELD, as soon as it cools down a bit.... is 86 here at moment and I have been working all day in temp of 94. Just whacked at the moment... Honor Please don't judge me on what I have achieved, but what I have overcome. Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive well preserved body. Rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!" --- On Fri, 9/7/10, Chris Elmore <chriselmore@supanet.com> wrote: From: Chris Elmore <chriselmore@supanet.com> Subject: [SFK-UK] SUCKLING of NORTH EAST SUFFOLK To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, 9 July, 2010, 11:04 Dear Listers Would you please contact me if you have spotted references to late 18th century SUCKLING births in NORTH EAST SUFFOLK (eg parishes in the METFIELD, BARSHAM, BUNGAY, BECCLES area). My 4Xgreat grandmother Mary Anne SUCKLING was born about 1778. Her baptism is not recorded on IGI and I am too far remote from the Suffolk Records Offices to search the parish registers. Your help or advice would be very much appreciated. Even reference to other SUCKLING baptisms around that date and in that area could point the way to solving this long standing question. Best regards Chris  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Listers Would you please contact me if you have spotted references to late 18th century SUCKLING births in NORTH EAST SUFFOLK (eg parishes in the METFIELD, BARSHAM, BUNGAY, BECCLES area). My 4Xgreat grandmother Mary Anne SUCKLING was born about 1778. Her baptism is not recorded on IGI and I am too far remote from the Suffolk Records Offices to search the parish registers. Your help or advice would be very much appreciated. Even reference to other SUCKLING baptisms around that date and in that area could point the way to solving this long standing question. Best regards Chris

Hello, I am new to this list, but not to family history research, and hope that there are some people on this list who are researching the BULL family, predominantly form Wetherden locality. I have in my tree William BULL born c1818 in Wetherden, who is my 3rd great grandfather. As this is my first email to the list I am just looking for contacts rather than specific information at this stage. TIA Yvonne M

Can pass on details of home adddress of the person in charge with telephone number - no email available for the museum, which is of course a member of Suffolk Local History Council :-) Many of these smaller museums in the county are staffed by volunteers from local history groups. Pat ... ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Vesey" <veseybrown@sympatico.ca> > Was advised some time ago that the Halesworth Museum ( web site does not > have email contact link) > has data re transcribed monumental inscriptions from the Halesworth > Cemetery. > Is there SKS,living in the Halesworth area, that could > check at the Museum ( in the next couple of months)the VESEY entries for > the 1850's and 60's. > Any help most greatly appreciated. > David Vesey > Toronto Canada

Was advised some time ago that the Halesworth Museum ( web site does not have email contact link) has data re transcribed monumental inscriptions from the Halesworth Cemetery. Is there SKS,living in the Halesworth area, that could check at the Museum ( in the next couple of months)the VESEY entries for the 1850's and 60's. Any help most greatly appreciated. David Vesey Toronto Canada

Hi All I am still trying to work the computer, latest problem is I save an image of the census I have a folder for each of the years yet when I go to look at it well it just not there I search did searches ect yet if I go to save it again it does say do I wish to overwrite existing image. Well I getting of the subject I just got Doris Gertrude Barnes nee Gillings death certificate she died in 1978 & the informant is given as son Peter Barnes where it asks for maiden name it has FISK which is strange as this was her mum's maiden name (FISKE) she wasn't the first child & her birth is registered under GILLINGS so anyone got any ideas why the name is given as Fisk. I have checked with the GRO & they have e-mailed me back to say that they check with Blyth & it was what was given, well I did wonder if the GRO made a mistake but no mistake been made or at least no official made a mistake just Peter who I believe was adopted am still waiting to hear more on him & I been told there was 3 adopted children so have to wait for that info. Regards Janice

I accompanied my husband to the Cambridge Universities Library a few years ago when he was carrying out research for one of his books. An amazing place, if anyone gets the chance to visit it's well worth it - although I seem to remember that to access books, maps etc we had to have photo ID such as passport/driving licence and we had photo ID cards provided for the day that we were using the Library. Pat ... From: "Ted & Magi" <tedandmagi@bordernet.com.au> > Thank you Lyn, very useful indeed and the Powner connection is > interesting. > I couldn't find a online version of the Pinchbeck either but I think I > will > be able to find a researcher either at Suffolk records office or > Cambridge > Uni. The Suffolk records may also have a copy of the 1283 subsidy rolls. > many thanks > Ted > From: "Lyn Boothman" <annys@boothman27.fsnet.co.uk> >> Ted >> Here's the Cambridge University Library catalogue entry for the >> Register: >> The Pinchbeck register : ed. by Lord Francis Hervey. >> Main author:Pyncebeck, Walter, fl. 1333- >> Title:The Pinchbeck register : etc / ed. by Lord Francis Hervey. >> Published:[Brighton : Printed at Farncombe's, 1925] >> Description:2 v ; 22 cm. >> The volume is in the Rare Books section in the library, and cannot be >> borrowed. >> I googled to see if I could find an online version on the Internet >> Archive >> or elsewhere and failed, but did find http://www.powner.name/ a family >> history site which also lists a Richard Pownyer in the Pinchbeck >> Register >> and a Ralph Poyner listed in the 1283 subsidy rolls for Suffolk ... >> Lyn B

This could be a useful site for listers. It has names of convicts sent to Australia in 1791. The place of sentence, & length of sentence, is included. Hope it helps some of you. Mick & Norma http://members.tip.net.au/~pdownes/dps/3rdflt.txt

David I have a Susannah Banyard married into my Broom[e] line - see the tree at my web page. I don't have any info re her though and couldn't find anything. Marion Web pages at http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/m/c/l/Marion-A-Mcleod Photos - People http://www.photobox.co.uk/album/21009959 Scenery http://www.photobox.co.uk/album/21009958 Orchids http://www.photobox.co.uk/album/21009957 Old photos http://www.photobox.co.uk/album/21018288

Thank you Lyn, very useful indeed and the Powner connection is interesting. I couldn't find a online version of the Pinchbeck either but I think I will be able to find a researcher either at Suffolk records office or Cambridge Uni. The Suffolk records may also have a copy of the 1283 subsidy rolls. many thanks Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn Boothman" <annys@boothman27.fsnet.co.uk> To: <suffolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] PUNYERS and the Pinchbeck Register and PUNCHARDS > Ted > Here's the Cambridge University Library catalogue entry for the Register: > > The Pinchbeck register : ed. by Lord Francis Hervey. > Main author:Pyncebeck, Walter, fl. 1333- > Title:The Pinchbeck register : etc / ed. by Lord Francis Hervey. > Published:[Brighton : Printed at Farncombe's, 1925] > Description:2 v ; 22 cm. > > The volume is in the Rare Books section in the library, and cannot be > borrowed. > > I googled to see if I could find an online version on the Internet Archive > or elsewhere and failed, but did find http://www.powner.name/ a family > history site which also lists a Richard Pownyer in the Pinchbeck Register > and a Ralph Poyner listed in the 1283 subsidy rolls for Suffolk ... > > Lyn B > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ted & Magi" <tedandmagi@bordernet.com.au> > To: <SUFFOLK@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 9:39 AM > Subject: [SFK-UK] PUNYERS and the Pinchbeck Register and PUNCHARDS > > >> >> Firstly a very big thank you for the help received so far. I know >> considerably more about Saxtead and records available now. I haven't yet >> been able to look at the parish records and it takes a couple of weeks to >> order up microfilm etc through the LDS out here. (140 km round trip just >> to place the order) >> Secondly however I'm too impatient to just wait for those. A Google >> search >> tells me that William Punyer 1327 appears in the Pinchbeck Register. This >> old volume is among other things a record of the assets of the Abbey of >> Bury St Edmunds in Suffolk. This doesn't appear to be any easier to get >> hold of than LDS microfilm in this neck of the woods so does some SKS >> have >> any information on this record. >> The name Punyer hasn't appeared in any other searches of Suffolk Parishes >> etc but the name Punchard does and from my experience in Kent, Punchard >> would seem to be the sort of name Punyer might "evolve" into. Does anyone >> have any links with PUNCHARD particularly in the Saxtead area 16th/17th >> century. >> >> TIA >> Ted Fowler >> Drake in Northern New South Wales >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Does anyone have any connections to the BANYARD family in the 18thC. I have a Mary Banyard b.abt 1766 ( not sure where - nor parents) who died in Woodbridge in Nov 1836. She had married , in 1786, at Campsea Ash - Richard Dowsing 1767-1844. They lived for many years in Lt Glemham and Wickham Market before moving ( circa 1800-05) to what is now Cumberland St in Woodbridge. Any help most greatly appreciated. David Vesey - in hot humid Toronto

Ted Here's the Cambridge University Library catalogue entry for the Register: The Pinchbeck register : ed. by Lord Francis Hervey. Main author:Pyncebeck, Walter, fl. 1333- Title:The Pinchbeck register : etc / ed. by Lord Francis Hervey. Published:[Brighton : Printed at Farncombe's, 1925] Description:2 v ; 22 cm. The volume is in the Rare Books section in the library, and cannot be borrowed. I googled to see if I could find an online version on the Internet Archive or elsewhere and failed, but did find http://www.powner.name/ a family history site which also lists a Richard Pownyer in the Pinchbeck Register and a Ralph Poyner listed in the 1283 subsidy rolls for Suffolk ... Lyn B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted & Magi" <tedandmagi@bordernet.com.au> To: <SUFFOLK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 9:39 AM Subject: [SFK-UK] PUNYERS and the Pinchbeck Register and PUNCHARDS > > Firstly a very big thank you for the help received so far. I know > considerably more about Saxtead and records available now. I haven't yet > been able to look at the parish records and it takes a couple of weeks to > order up microfilm etc through the LDS out here. (140 km round trip just > to place the order) > Secondly however I'm too impatient to just wait for those. A Google search > tells me that William Punyer 1327 appears in the Pinchbeck Register. This > old volume is among other things a record of the assets of the Abbey of > Bury St Edmunds in Suffolk. This doesn't appear to be any easier to get > hold of than LDS microfilm in this neck of the woods so does some SKS have > any information on this record. > The name Punyer hasn't appeared in any other searches of Suffolk Parishes > etc but the name Punchard does and from my experience in Kent, Punchard > would seem to be the sort of name Punyer might "evolve" into. Does anyone > have any links with PUNCHARD particularly in the Saxtead area 16th/17th > century. > > TIA > Ted Fowler > Drake in Northern New South Wales > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

In all of the Suffolk hearth tax records covering the period 1662-1676 - which are not published except for 1674 - there are no Punyers recorded. There is one Punier and in those days the I and y were used interchangeably. Interestingly this is almost certainly a variant spelling of Pinner, as that is the name used in other years. Thus this suggests that the family didn't remain long in Suffolk. Wishing you every success in your researches Giles Colchester, Researching COLCHESTER family, any spelling, any time, any place And PACKARD in Suffolk Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 23:29:28 +1000 From: "Ted & Magi" <tedandmagi@bordernet.com.au> Subject: [SFK-UK] PUNYER about 1530 Saxtead Suffolk To: <SUFFOLK@rootsweb.com> My interest is the PUNYER surname until today I knew it as a very localised Kentish name but I have just had the 1571 will of John Punyer transcribed. He was a yeoman of Saxtead Suffolk. this is the first time my interest has brought me to Suffolk and I hope SKS will be able to answer my queries. He requests in his will that he be buried in the church yard of Saxtead, does the church and yard still exist? Google map of Saxtead doesn't show a lot! Does Suffolk FHS publish any parish records for the area. I can't find an IGI transcription of Saxstead parish records. The will mentions his wife Alice and a number of nephews and nieces all with the surname Punyer which makes me think there must have been brothers as well as a married sister with the surname Pechy. A few more names appear, Fryet(t), Rumsye, Grymble, Penninge and Kent. There is also a reference to "Crosse Pyghtle" Pyghtle is an ancient Anglo-Saxon word meaning "small parcel of land, a small enclosure, a croft". Still in use in East Anglia however I haven't been able to find "Crosse pyghtle" If anyone has an interest in any of the above please contact me and I'd be delighted to share any information I have. Ted Fowler Drake, a village in northern New South Wales Australia.