Hello Phil, Stuston, a parish and village in East Sufolk about 1 1/2 miles SE of Diss. Regaeds Sid On 14 September 2010 22:50, Phil White <pwgrandmapa@comcast.net> wrote: > IGI has a Mary Osborne and > William Stanard marriage at STUSTON Suffolk on 12 Oct 1824, > but I cannot locate the village Think it was STUTTON but >

Bulcamp House of Industry (Bulcamp Union Workhouse for the Blything Hundred). Bulcamp and Hinton are hamlets to the parish of Blythburgh. I see you have been given a link to Peter's excellent workhouses web site and you will find some more information at Simon's churches web site http://www.suffolkchurches.co.uk/bulcamp.htm Pat ... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil White" <pwgrandmapa@comcast.net> > Hello Folks, I have found an IGI entry for a birth at "Bulchamp House of > Industry" but cannot find any other listing of such in the lists of such > workhouse , Can anyone help? Phil White in New Hampshire USA Roots on > Sussex & IOW

I think this should be "Bulcamp" rather than "Bulchamp". Have a look at http://users.ox.ac.uk/~peter/workhouse/blything/ Hope this helps. John At 20:33 14/09/2010, you wrote: >Hello Folks, I have found an IGI entry for a birth at "Bulchamp House of >Industry" but cannot find any other listing of such in the lists of such >workhouse , Can anyone help? Phil White in New Hampshire USA Roots on >Sussex & IOW > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Many thanks Nivard, once again you have come up with a good answer. The piece you sent me certainly does fit and provides an interesting description of the practices at the old Workhouses, certainly shows a great deal of just plain cruelty by the ruling classes of the day. In my search for the Osborne family in Suffolk I also recvd some data about a member of the family transported to Tasmania after breaking and entering a house and stealing two things of minimum value, 2 pearl earings and a silver coin Result 10 years transportation. Shows very little concern for less fortunate people, and almost a vicious attitude. Anyway Thanks again Nivard, and I might also add that Mevagissey is one of my very favorite spots in Cornwall

Is the IGI entry a Patron submission (I presume) or an extraction from PRs ? It sounds like the former and may be a phonetic spelling for something else Ah..... just found this http://www.blythburgh.net/history/bulcampindus.php Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hello Folks, I have found an IGI entry for a birth at "Bulchamp House of > Industry" but cannot find any other listing of such in the lists of such > workhouse , Can anyone help? Phil White in New Hampshire USA Roots on > Sussex & IOW

Hello Phil, Others have kindly told you the location of Stuston but William Stannard was my 2nd great grandfather. Mary Osborne was his first wife, Sophia Burrows his second wife was my 2nd great grandmother. I have many of the Stuston parish records on microfiche so can also give you information (if you don't already have it) on William and Mary. Mary died 1 April 1844 and I'm quite sure I have her death certificate. Let me know if I can help in any way. Elizabeth PS You may be familiar with Simon's (can't remember his last name) site for Suffolk Churches and Stuston is on that. I also have a picture of the church if you would like it forwarded. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil White" <pwgrandmapa@comcast.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 5:50 PM To: <suffolk@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SFK-UK] STUSTON Suffolk > Hi Folks, Another question re Suffolk IGI has a Mary Osborne and > William Stanard marriage at STUSTON Suffolk on 12 Oct 1824, > but I cannot locate the village Think it was STUTTON but need some > opinions Phil White in NH USA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Folks, Another question re Suffolk IGI has a Mary Osborne and William Stanard marriage at STUSTON Suffolk on 12 Oct 1824, but I cannot locate the village Think it was STUTTON but need some opinions Phil White in NH USA

Hello Folks, I have found an IGI entry for a birth at "Bulchamp House of Industry" but cannot find any other listing of such in the lists of such workhouse , Can anyone help? Phil White in New Hampshire USA Roots on Sussex & IOW

Hello I noticed the thread re Daniel Death, and it prompted me to say that my 7th Great Grandmother was Elizabeth Death born 23rd Feb 1722 in Kettlebaston, married to John Cutting. So I am interested to know if anyone is following this line also. I wonder if there is a connection to Daniel Death? I have a William Death born in 1661 Thorpe Moreiux in my tree also, he was my 9th Great Grand Uncle. Christine \\\\\\=^..^=/////// On 7 September 2010 17:01, <suffolk-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Daniel Death Chelsea Pensioner and Non Conformist Records > (David Gobbitt) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 16:36:32 +0000 (GMT) > From: David Gobbitt <davidgobbitt@yahoo.co.uk> > Subject: [SFK-UK] Daniel Death Chelsea Pensioner and Non Conformist > Records > To: SUFFOLK@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <101300.7357.qm@web28608.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hello Sheila > > The Suffolk Family History Society's burial index includes these two > entries from the register of Bury St Edmunds Cemetery: > > 1868 June 26 aged 78 Daniel DEATH of 3 Alms Ho[use(s?)] Southgate St, > pensioner > > 1868 Nov. 19 aged 73 Elizabeth DEATH of 7 Mowers C[our]t, Long Brackland, > widow > > Could it be the same Daniel who was baptized at Great Welnetham (near Bury > St Edmunds) on 14 Aug. 1791? His parents were William DEATH and Elizabeth > SPELLS, according to the IGI and Record Search ( > http://pilot.familysearch.org). The latter has an additional entry which > is noteworthy for the date of birth (22 June 1791) and the unfortunate > mother's name ("Elizabeth Spells Death") although it gives the place as > Sudbury (presumably the Archdeaconry rather than the town). > > I see no other candidates in the records of Nonconformists at > http://www.bmdregisters.co.uk. > > Best of luck > David > > Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 12:41:10 -0400 > From: "Sheila Dowdell" <dowdell.s.toronto@sympatico.ca> > ... > I am still on the prowl for my elusive Daniel Death. A possible fit might > just be Daniel Death b. 1787 Bury St, Edmunds shown on both the 1851 and > 1861 Census records. He is also shown as being a Chelsea pensioner and a > bricklayer. All my other Daniels are bricklayers so this might just be a > good fit. > > I pulled what information I could from the British Army Records using Find > My Past and found that this Daniel enlisted 6 Dec 1813 at Bow, Middlesex in > the 4th Regiment of Foot. I also have copies of his discharge papers dated > 8 Aug 1827 at the age of 41. During his time with the 4th Regiment of Foot > he was stationed in East or West Indies. The records don't indicate which. > He was discharged due to chronic rheumatism and worn out. > > Using Ancestry and whatever other sources are available, I have searched > high and low for this man between his discharge in 1827 and his death > sometime after the 1861 Census. > > In 1851 and 1861 he is married to Elizabeth, also born abt 1797 Bury St, > Edmunds. > > My question is where would I find non conformist records? I would like to > locate a marriage for this Daniel, and also a birth or christening for > another Daniel Death b. abt. 1810 Bury St. Edmunds who is my direct > ancestor. > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SUFFOLK list administrator, send an email to > SUFFOLK-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the SUFFOLK mailing list, send an email to > SUFFOLK@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of SUFFOLK Digest, Vol 5, Issue 225 > *************************************** >

Hello Peter, Thank you for your reply. I do not think that your Anne Gooch is part of my Gooch line at the moment. ALDOUS is linked to my family but I will need to go through my details to find exactly where, if I find some information re ALDOUS I will send it to the list. Regards Trish ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter J Richardson" <pjrich.ntl@googlemail.com> To: <suffolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 10:28 PM Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] GOOCH KNIGHTS Sotherton Stoven > Hello Trish, > > My Gooch research is embryonic, and at present is a few miles to the west > of > the area you are looking at, but for what it is worth I have Anne Gooch > (c.1727-1814) who married George WARN (c.1732-1810) at Stradbroke on 11th > October 1762. George was from Wingfield which is where they lived after > the > marriage. > > The above pair are I believe the great grandparents of Hannah Elizabeth > ALDOUS (1814-1883) who married William KNIGHTS (c.1812-1876) a pipemaker > from Westleton at Beccles on 1st November 1838 > > Regards > Peter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Trish Thomson" <jpthoms@bigpond.net.au> > To: <SUFFOLK@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:31 AM > Subject: [SFK-UK] GOOCH KNIGHTS Sotherton Stoven > > >> Hi I have just rejoined and am hoping to find someone who is linked to >> the >> GOOCH or KNIGHTS families from these areas 1700's. I suspect that my >> ggggrandfather was JOHN GOOCH who married MARY KNIGHTS 10.06.1791 >> Sotherton. Does anyone have any information re this GOOCH family. Their >> son THOMAS GOOCH may be my gggrandfather who married Lucy Ibrook 1816 >> Lowestoft. Hope to hear from someone Thanks Trish >> >> -- >> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. >> We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. >> SPAMfighter has removed 301 of my spam emails to date. >> Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len >> >> The Professional version does not have this message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3124 - Release Date: 09/09/10 16:34:00 -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 305 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Peter Apologizing for long message and lack of editing and deletion. I thought the message was going to a private email address and not main Suffolk rootsweb address. Marj.

Hello Diane I had sent the below message to a different email address which was returned to me. Hopefully I can impose on you to help me once more Many thanks Hello Diane I have seen your name on the Suffolk Surnames List and wondering if I could ask you to check Trimley St Mary between 1839 and 1850. I am looking for Baptism of any children born to Thomas PIERCE and wife Sarah Ann (nee HUDSON). I have Sarah's burial in 1850 together with Ellen who I presume was her child. I think any Baptism for any child would be followed by a Burial as I do not believe Thomas was left with any living children when Sarah died. Many thanks, just when you have time. Marj. -----Original Message----- From: suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Thursday, 9 September 2010 5:28 PM To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] SBI Hi Looking at the Trimley St Mary records I found Ellen born 31st March bapt 1st April Sarah Ann buried 13th April age 37 Ellen buried 17th April age 3 Weeks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mac and Marj McCulley" <mcculley@wideband.net.au> To: <suffolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 2:21 AM Subject: [SFK-UK] SBI >I am wondering, if anyone has a copy of Suffolk Burial Index, I could ask a > favour. > > > > I am attempting to trace the burial of Sarah Ann PIERCE (nee HUDSON) > wife > of Thomas in June qtr 1850. Death occurred in the Woodbridge district. > In > 1851 Thomas was in Kirton with his brother in law Daniel Hudson. However > I > cannot find the burial in Kirton. > > I think there would be a burial for an infant named Ellen at the same > place > and time. > > > > Many thanks > > Marj. > > > > I > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Diane that is just the information I needed. Regards Marj. -----Original Message----- From: suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Thursday, 9 September 2010 5:28 PM To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] SBI Hi Looking at the Trimley St Mary records I found Ellen born 31st March bapt 1st April Sarah Ann buried 13th April age 37 Ellen buried 17th April age 3 Weeks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mac and Marj McCulley" <mcculley@wideband.net.au> To: <suffolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 2:21 AM Subject: [SFK-UK] SBI >I am wondering, if anyone has a copy of Suffolk Burial Index, I could ask a > favour. > > > > I am attempting to trace the burial of Sarah Ann PIERCE (nee HUDSON) > wife > of Thomas in June qtr 1850. Death occurred in the Woodbridge district. > In > 1851 Thomas was in Kirton with his brother in law Daniel Hudson. However > I > cannot find the burial in Kirton. > > I think there would be a burial for an infant named Ellen at the same > place > and time. > > > > Many thanks > > Marj. > > > > I > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi I have just rejoined and am hoping to find someone who is linked to the GOOCH or KNIGHTS families from these areas 1700's. I suspect that my ggggrandfather was JOHN GOOCH who married MARY KNIGHTS 10.06.1791 Sotherton. Does anyone have any information re this GOOCH family. Their son THOMAS GOOCH may be my gggrandfather who married Lucy Ibrook 1816 Lowestoft. Hope to hear from someone Thanks Trish -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 301 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Hi there. This is what I have found; Sarah Ann Pierce. Trimley St Mary 12th april 1850 aged 37. Trimley St Mary Ellen Pierce trimley St Mary 17th April 1850 3wks Trimley St Mary. There is also a Thomas Prience in Farnham is he your one? Judy Fletcher Tauranga NZ > > I > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thank you Judy that is wonderful. I really appreciate your prompt reply. This is my Sarah Ann and I was right about Ellen. How sad as Thomas had no other children. I will keep info about the Thomas Pierce you have given me. It is not Sarah Ann's husband as too old but possibly connected somewhere. Once again thank you Marj. -----Original Message----- From: suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Judy Fletcher Sent: Thursday, 9 September 2010 12:05 PM To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] SBI Hi there. This is what I have found; Sarah Ann Pierce. Trimley St Mary 12th april 1850 aged 37. Trimley St Mary Ellen Pierce trimley St Mary 17th April 1850 3wks Trimley St Mary. There is also a Thomas Prience in Farnham is he your one? Judy Fletcher Tauranga NZ > > I > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Trish, My Gooch research is embryonic, and at present is a few miles to the west of the area you are looking at, but for what it is worth I have Anne Gooch (c.1727-1814) who married George WARN (c.1732-1810) at Stradbroke on 11th October 1762. George was from Wingfield which is where they lived after the marriage. The above pair are I believe the great grandparents of Hannah Elizabeth ALDOUS (1814-1883) who married William KNIGHTS (c.1812-1876) a pipemaker from Westleton at Beccles on 1st November 1838 Regards Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trish Thomson" <jpthoms@bigpond.net.au> To: <SUFFOLK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:31 AM Subject: [SFK-UK] GOOCH KNIGHTS Sotherton Stoven > Hi I have just rejoined and am hoping to find someone who is linked to the > GOOCH or KNIGHTS families from these areas 1700's. I suspect that my > ggggrandfather was JOHN GOOCH who married MARY KNIGHTS 10.06.1791 > Sotherton. Does anyone have any information re this GOOCH family. Their > son THOMAS GOOCH may be my gggrandfather who married Lucy Ibrook 1816 > Lowestoft. Hope to hear from someone Thanks Trish > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfighter has removed 301 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > The Professional version does not have this message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am wondering, if anyone has a copy of Suffolk Burial Index, I could ask a favour. I am attempting to trace the burial of Sarah Ann PIERCE (nee HUDSON) wife of Thomas in June qtr 1850. Death occurred in the Woodbridge district. In 1851 Thomas was in Kirton with his brother in law Daniel Hudson. However I cannot find the burial in Kirton. I think there would be a burial for an infant named Ellen at the same place and time. Many thanks Marj. I

Hi Looking at the Trimley St Mary records I found Ellen born 31st March bapt 1st April Sarah Ann buried 13th April age 37 Ellen buried 17th April age 3 Weeks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mac and Marj McCulley" <mcculley@wideband.net.au> To: <suffolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 2:21 AM Subject: [SFK-UK] SBI >I am wondering, if anyone has a copy of Suffolk Burial Index, I could ask a > favour. > > > > I am attempting to trace the burial of Sarah Ann PIERCE (nee HUDSON) > wife > of Thomas in June qtr 1850. Death occurred in the Woodbridge district. > In > 1851 Thomas was in Kirton with his brother in law Daniel Hudson. However > I > cannot find the burial in Kirton. > > I think there would be a burial for an infant named Ellen at the same > place > and time. > > > > Many thanks > > Marj. > > > > I > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Sheila The Suffolk Family History Society's burial index includes these two entries from the register of Bury St Edmunds Cemetery: 1868 June 26 aged 78 Daniel DEATH of 3 Alms Ho[use(s?)] Southgate St, pensioner 1868 Nov. 19 aged 73 Elizabeth DEATH of 7 Mowers C[our]t, Long Brackland, widow Could it be the same Daniel who was baptized at Great Welnetham (near Bury St Edmunds) on 14 Aug. 1791? His parents were William DEATH and Elizabeth SPELLS, according to the IGI and Record Search (http://pilot.familysearch.org). The latter has an additional entry which is noteworthy for the date of birth (22 June 1791) and the unfortunate mother's name ("Elizabeth Spells Death") although it gives the place as Sudbury (presumably the Archdeaconry rather than the town). I see no other candidates in the records of Nonconformists at http://www.bmdregisters.co.uk. Best of luck David Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 12:41:10 -0400 From: "Sheila Dowdell" <dowdell.s.toronto@sympatico.ca> ... I am still on the prowl for my elusive Daniel Death. A possible fit might just be Daniel Death b. 1787 Bury St, Edmunds shown on both the 1851 and 1861 Census records. He is also shown as being a Chelsea pensioner and a bricklayer. All my other Daniels are bricklayers so this might just be a good fit. I pulled what information I could from the British Army Records using Find My Past and found that this Daniel enlisted 6 Dec 1813 at Bow, Middlesex in the 4th Regiment of Foot. I also have copies of his discharge papers dated 8 Aug 1827 at the age of 41. During his time with the 4th Regiment of Foot he was stationed in East or West Indies. The records don't indicate which. He was discharged due to chronic rheumatism and worn out. Using Ancestry and whatever other sources are available, I have searched high and low for this man between his discharge in 1827 and his death sometime after the 1861 Census. In 1851 and 1861 he is married to Elizabeth, also born abt 1797 Bury St, Edmunds. My question is where would I find non conformist records? I would like to locate a marriage for this Daniel, and also a birth or christening for another Daniel Death b. abt. 1810 Bury St. Edmunds who is my direct ancestor.