Dear Fellow list members, Many thanks to all those who replied with support and advice. cheers. John Emms RE: James Emms (my 3x Great grand father) born 1796 in 'Barton?' Suffolk I asked the researcher in Bury St Edmands archives Library to search for James Emms but only came up with a marriage of William Emms and Mary Deeks in Timworth, which backs on to Great Barton in 1787. I did a search on the IGI's and discovered a James Eames C. 9/9/1792 in Sudbury IGI Batch No. C026529. The parents were William Eames (note name change) and Mary Deeks Eames . I thought this was too much of a coincidence and fingers crossed are the persons I'm looking for. The 1841 census ref HO 107/701/6 for the Borough of Tower Hamlets Limehouse informs that he was age 45 and had a profession of Lockeeper. It also indicates that the family moved to London between 1821 and 1826. In the 1851 census ref H.O107 1554 for Borough ofTower Hamlets St. Annes, Limehouse, it informs that he was born in Barton? Suffolk and had a profession of Dealer in Coal and Wood.

Syd Hockey wrote: > Hello Everybody, > If there is anyone with the 1851& 1861 census > for SUFFOLK would they kindly keep a look out for FAIRFIELD TUCK or > NATHANIEL FAIRFIELD TUCK, he was born about 1849 at IPSWICH SUFFOLK and his > parents were JOSEPH& ELIZABETH TUCK, thank you. > Regards, 1861 Class: RG9; Piece: 1165; Folio: 195; Page: 1 9 Cold Dunghills, Ipswich St Margaret Joseph Tuck 57 Coal Porter b Westminster, London Elizabeth Tuck 57 b Ipswich Joseph John Tuck 18 Baker b Ipswich Caroline Tuck 14 Scholar b Ipswich Fairfield Tuck 12 Scholar b Ipswich 1851 HO107; Piece: 1800; Folio: 616; Page: 15 Cold Dunghills Ipswich St Margaret Joseph Tuck 45 Laborer b Mdx Westminster Elizabeth Tuck 46 b Ipswich Ellen Tuck 17 b Ipswich George Tuck 16 Genl labourer b Ipswich Joseph Tuck 9 b Ipswich Harriett Tuck 7 b Ipswich Caroline Tuck 3 b Ipswich Nat F Tuck 7 b Ipswich Births Sep 1849 TUCK Nathaniel S*field Ipswich 12 351 (correction sub mitted to FreeBMD, it's definitely Fairfield) Anne South Australia

For descendants in S America Please can anyone find a marriage of James William CROWE c1826-1880 b ? d Bury St E & & Eleanor 1824-95 b Barham or Ipswich [not on FreeBMD or IGI.] daughters Rebecca Mary Charlotte bap 1855 Chesterton gives birthplace as Norfolk 1901 Chesterton 1911 [m in St Edmunds RC Chapel Bury St Edmunds] Ellen Elizabeth bc 1857 Bury St E m & widowed 1881 Sam J Eley Thanks Jo

Thank you to Mrs Atkinson for your kind help. Regards, Syd

Hello Everybody, If there is anyone with the 1851 & 1861 census for SUFFOLK would they kindly keep a look out for FAIRFIELD TUCK or NATHANIEL FAIRFIELD TUCK, he was born about 1849 at IPSWICH SUFFOLK and his parents were JOSEPH & ELIZABETH TUCK, thank you. Regards, Syd

1861 9 Bold or Cold Dunghills, Ipswich St Margaret age 12 with parents both 57, Joseph John 18 , Caroline 14 Father Joseph born Westminster London, a Coal porter, all rest born Ipswich 1851 same place but no house number. Joseph Lab 45, Elizth 46, Ellen 17, George 16 Gen Lab, Joseph 9, Harriett 7, Caroline 3, Nat F 1, all born same as above ----- Original Message ----- From: "Syd Hockey" <syd@sydandjudy.freeserve.co.uk> To: "Syd Hockey" <syd@sydandjudy.freeserve.co.uk>; <suffolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] 1851 & 1861 CENSUS > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Syd Hockey" <syd@sydandjudy.freeserve.co.uk> > To: <suffolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 2:44 PM > Subject: 1851 & 1861 CENSUS > > > Hello Everybody, > If there is anyone with the 1851 & 1861 census for > SUFFOLK would you kindly keep a look out for FAIRFIELD TUCK or NATHANIEL > FAIRFIELD TUCK. He was born about 1849 at IPSWICH SUFFOLK, his parents > were > JOSEPH & ELIZABETH. Thank you. > Regards, > Syd > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: "Syd Hockey" <syd@sydandjudy.freeserve.co.uk> To: <suffolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 2:44 PM Subject: 1851 & 1861 CENSUS Hello Everybody, If there is anyone with the 1851 & 1861 census for SUFFOLK would you kindly keep a look out for FAIRFIELD TUCK or NATHANIEL FAIRFIELD TUCK. He was born about 1849 at IPSWICH SUFFOLK, his parents were JOSEPH & ELIZABETH. Thank you. Regards, Syd

Thanks Sid. Yes, she was a widow at time of her death her married name was Jane HUDSON. Thanks you for that clarification. It certainly confirms her husband's Shottisham connection as I have a Shottisham birth for him. Doesn't help knock down her brick wall however. Oh dear!! Regards Marj. -----Original Message----- From: suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sid Jones Sent: Friday, 24 September 2010 7:07 PM To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] Parish Relief Hello Marj, You don't say if she was a married woman at the time of her death. If a married woman she would have followed her husband's settlement. Sid

Hello Marj, You don't say if she was a married woman at the time of her death. If a married woman she would have followed her husband's settlement. Sid On 24 September 2010 00:37, Mac and Marj McCulley <mcculley@wideband.net.au>wrote: > A Coroner's report on my 3xgreat grandmother's sudden death in Kirton > states > that she was given half a crown per week by the Parish of Shottisham to > which she belonged. > She had lived in Kirton for many years and her children were born there > therefore I am puzzled at the Shottisham connection. Does this mean that > she was born in Shottisham and therefore responsible to the Shottisham > parish? > > If anyone has the Shottisham parish registers I would be very grateful if > a > Baptism could be found for a Jane Boze, Bowes, Bows, Boyes (or anything > remotely similar) in the 1770 -1780 year range. Grasping at straws here I > think! > > > > > >

A Coroner's report on my 3xgreat grandmother's sudden death in Kirton states that she was given half a crown per week by the Parish of Shottisham to which she belonged. She had lived in Kirton for many years and her children were born there therefore I am puzzled at the Shottisham connection. Does this mean that she was born in Shottisham and therefore responsible to the Shottisham parish? If anyone has the Shottisham parish registers I would be very grateful if a Baptism could be found for a Jane Boze, Bowes, Bows, Boyes (or anything remotely similar) in the 1770 -1780 year range. Grasping at straws here I think! Many thanks Marj.

Hi Honor Many thanks again How did you know I have the birth date (and time even) but not the baptism Most appreciated :-) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > West Wratting Baptisms > > 1804 > May 9 HAYLOCK John son of Edward & Dorothy (late BROWNING) born 7 Sep 1801 > > Honor

Thanks again Honor What a shame there is no age at burial it may have helped to find where he did come from which does not appear to be Gt Wilbraham No sign of the burial for Miss BROWNING who died in 1802 which is odd but suspect she must be buried somewhere other than with her father and is not available as yet Its the young ladies first name that concerns me (or lack of it) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Burials... > Great Wilbraham > 1803 Nov 15 BROWNING Thomas. > > > > Honor

Hi Honor Very much appreciated :-) I have just been trying to track down Christian BROWNING with little success The CASBURN also crops up in the childrens names of Edward and Dorothy HAYLOCK Its getting very interesting now but confusing at times, I will have to put this lot together and see where it takes me Greatly appreciate your help Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Western Colville. > 1796 Marriages > Aug 7 BROWNING Thomas bac otp > CLARKE Celia sp of Dullingham > wits: Edwd HAYLOCK, Christian BROWNING > > 1797 Marriages. > Dec 28 HAYLOCK Edward bac of West Wratting > BROWNING Dorothy sp otp > by lic > wits: Christian BROWNING, Thos CASBURN > > Baptism > 1797 Dec 28 BROWNING William Girdinar son of Thomas & Celia privately > baptised > at > Dullingham 31 Jul 1797 > > Honor

Hi David Hugely appreciated I can assure you I had already tried the Thompson Gale papers but did not find anything for Thomas or the eldest daughter, I did find the marriage some time ago in another publication but you did far better than I did I tried to replicate the search but again found nothing but after a little perseverance I found it, the OCR does not seem to like Wilbraham very much <g> I do now have a slight problem, in that the eldest daughter baptised 1777 is my g.g.g.grandmother Dorothy ! The others are Sarah baptised Ousden 1779 and a probable Harriet in 1781, no others are known of as yet I hope there is another older daughter or I may have a large problem ! Very much appreciate your help Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Nivard > > These three items from the Bury and Norwich Post may be of interest: > > 1802 April 28 (Wednesday) > Cambridge, April 26. > ... > Yesterday se'nnight died, in the 25th year of her age, deeply regretted, > Miss BROWNING, eldest daughter of Mr. Thomas BROWNING, farmer, of > Wilbraham. > > 1803 Nov. 23 (Wednesday) > Cambridge, Nov. 21. > ... > Thursday se'nnight died, after only three days illness, Mr. Thomas > BROWNING, a respectable farmer at Wilbraham, in this county. > > 1885 July 28 (Tuesday) page 6 > GLIMPSES OF THE PAST, No. 61. >>From the Files of the Bury Post, > January 10, ... 1798 ... > A few days since Edward HAYLOCK, Esq. of West Wratting, was married to > Miss D. BROWNING, of Western [sic] Colville, Cambridgeshire. > > By my reckoning, Thomas died on 10 Nov. 1803 and his eldest daughter on 18 > April 1802, having been born in 1777 or 1778, but my arithmetic could be > as unreliable as old newspapers. > > David

West Wratting Baptisms 1804 May 9 HAYLOCK John son of Edward & Dorothy (late BROWNING) born 7 Sep 1801 Honor Please don't judge me on what I have achieved, but what I have overcome. Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive well preserved body. Rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!" ________________________________ From: Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, 23 September, 2010 20:25:57 Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] Browning Burial Great Wilbraham Thanks again Honor What a shame there is no age at burial it may have helped to find where he did come from which does not appear to be Gt Wilbraham No sign of the burial for Miss BROWNING who died in 1802 which is odd but suspect she must be buried somewhere other than with her father and is not available as yet Its the young ladies first name that concerns me (or lack of it) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Burials... > Great Wilbraham > 1803 Nov 15 BROWNING Thomas. > > > > Honor ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Bob, I'm sure there is more than one burial ground in Bury St Edmunds. I once took part in a tour of the various churches of all denominations, Protestant, Catholic, Methodist, Quaker etc. and each has a burial ground. There is a town cemetery in off Kings Road Bury St Edmunds. Do you want to send me the details off list and I can see if it is easy to find the grave and photograph it for you. I usually go at least once a month to Bury St Edmunds so it will be possible to do if we can locate the burial. kind regards Martin Clowes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Stephenson" <rstephenson3@cogeco.ca> To: <suffolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 3:21 PM Subject: [SFK-UK] Headstone photo > > Good morning everyone, i do not know if there is more than one cemetary in > Bury St. Edmunds but i would like to ask if there is anyone available who > would take a photo of a headstone for me. I would do it myself but i live > in Ontario, Canada. Thankyou > > Bob > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Burials... Great Wilbraham 1803 Nov 15 BROWNING Thomas. Honor Please don't judge me on what I have achieved, but what I have overcome. Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive well preserved body. Rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"

Western Colville. 1796 Marriages Aug 7 BROWNING Thomas bac otp CLARKE Celia sp of Dullingham wits: Edwd HAYLOCK, Christian BROWNING 1797 Marriages. Dec 28 HAYLOCK Edward bac of West Wratting BROWNING Dorothy sp otp by lic wits: Christian BROWNING, Thos CASBURN Baptism 1797 Dec 28 BROWNING William Girdinar son of Thomas & Celia privately baptised at Dullingham 31 Jul 1797 Honor Please don't judge me on what I have achieved, but what I have overcome. Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive well preserved body. Rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"

Hi Nivard These three items from the Bury and Norwich Post may be of interest: 1802 April 28 (Wednesday) Cambridge, April 26. ... Yesterday se'nnight died, in the 25th year of her age, deeply regretted, Miss BROWNING, eldest daughter of Mr. Thomas BROWNING, farmer, of Wilbraham. 1803 Nov. 23 (Wednesday) Cambridge, Nov. 21. ... Thursday se'nnight died, after only three days illness, Mr. Thomas BROWNING, a respectable farmer at Wilbraham, in this county. 1885 July 28 (Tuesday) page 6 GLIMPSES OF THE PAST, No. 61. >From the Files of the Bury Post, January 10, ... 1798 ... A few days since Edward HAYLOCK, Esq. of West Wratting, was married to Miss D. BROWNING, of Western [sic] Colville, Cambridgeshire. By my reckoning, Thomas died on 10 Nov. 1803 and his eldest daughter on 18 April 1802, having been born in 1777 or 1778, but my arithmetic could be as unreliable as old newspapers. David Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:45:44 +0100 From: "Nivard Ovington" <ovington1@sky.com> Subject: [SFK-UK] BROWNING Ousden circa 1777 To: <suffolk@rootsweb.com> Hi all (I have posted a similar enquiry to Cambs list) I wondered if anyone might be able to help with my BROWNINGs I have long known that my g.g.g.grandmother was born in 1777 at Ousden Suffolk Her parents were Thomas BROWNING & Mary (unknown) Thomas is later described as a Gentleman Farmer of Great Wilbraham Cambridgeshire Their daughter Dorothy (or Dorothea) BROWNING was baptised at Ousden in 1777 but have no idea if she had siblings or what became of Thomas & Mary her parents Dorothea married Edward HAYLOCK in 1798 at Weston Colville, a witness was a Christian BROWNING I have much on the HAYLOCKs but virtually nothing on the BROWNINGs I have searched the normal places, Times, Thompson Gale Newspapers, IGI , Ancestry etc to no avail I have been putting this off until I can get to Cambs or Suffolk but that seems an unlikely event just now :-( Any suggestions anyone? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Good morning everyone, i do not know if there is more than one cemetary in Bury St. Edmunds but i would like to ask if there is anyone available who would take a photo of a headstone for me. I would do it myself but i live in Ontario, Canada. Thankyou Bob