Just to say a big 'thank you' to everyone who replied to my e-mail requesting help with the 1871 & 1881 census look-up for Duleep Singh! I was overwhelmed with the response and my son was pleased as punch to go to school with some unique information that he was able to share with his class (his teacher was very impressed!). Thank you so much again for all your time and efforts, they were much appreciated! Best wishes Rebecca

I wonder.... A carpenter and joiner was a skilled man, and the 1891 address is certainly a nice house (I cycled down Rose Hill Road not 20 minutes ago on my way home!). It may be that he was out of area for work, but there was plenty of work for carpenters and joiners in Ipswich in the 1880s - not least on Rose Hill Road and the surrounding streets, which were being laid out at that time. I wonder if it could be a transcription error in 1881 which is keeping them hidden? I would be tempted to surf likely-looking streets in the Rose Hill, Foxhall Road and Woodbridge Road areas - they should leap out, really, if they are there.... Simon Knott www.norfolkchurches.co.uk www.suffolkchurches.co.uk On 29/09/2010 17:22, Carol Clarke wrote: > Hi, > I found what looked likely to be my missing family listed in the workhouse. The > family was listed by initals only but when I obtained the birth certificate of > the youngest child it said that he was born in Wickham Market Workhouse in 1861 > exactly the time span that I could not trace them. So it might be worth looking > to see if a matching set of initals, and if your lucky occupations beside the > initals, give any help. > Good Luck, > Carol > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Janine Fisher<janinef@aapt.net.au> > To: SUFFOLK@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wed, 29 September, 2010 14:16:02 > Subject: [SFK-UK] Barber Family Ipswich 1881 Census > > Dear List > > > > I have recently started searching my family history after a long break of > nearly ten years. Alas!! The bricks are all still there in the wall. I > would like to ask some advice about the family listed below. I have them on > the 1871 England Census and the 1891 England Census but cannot find them > anywhere for the 1881 England Census. Here are the details; > > > > 1871 England Census, Ipswich, Suffolk, St Margaret, 55 Tower Terrace > > > > James Barber Head Carpenter and Joiner Ipswich > 29 > > Frances Barber Wife > Claydon 26 > > Stephen Barber Son Scholar > Ipswich 7 > > James Barber Son > Ipswich 5 > > Henry Barber Son > Ipswich 3 > > Frances Barber Dau > Ipswich 8 months > > > > And then > > > > 1891 England Census, Ipswich, Ipswich Eastern, Ridge Cottage, 4 Rosehill > Road > > > > James Barber Head Carpenter and Builder Ipswich > 49 > > Frances Barber Wife > Claydon 46 > > Henry Barber Son Gardener > Ipswich 23 > > Elizabeth Barber Son Dressmaker > " 18 > > Francis Barber Son Scholar > " 13 > > Charles Barber Son " > " 10 > > Edward Barber Son " > " 8 > > Christine Barber Dau " > " 6 > > Frederick Barber Son > " 3 > > Phillip Barber Son > " 7/12 > > > > I realise that the younger children won't be on the 1881 Census but I have > searched for the others with no avail. Could they have been quarantined, > imprisoned or even sent to Coventry J ? I would greatly appreciate any > suggestions or help. > > > > Kind Regards > > Janine Fisher > > Australia > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.856 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3166 - Release Date: 09/29/10 06:37:00 >

Hi list, I am back again searching my family in Suffolk, but this time another name! I have a john MARGRIE born 1815 in Woodbridge married to a Mary Harvey? They had a son Thomas born 1834 in Bridport Dorset. Could you please tell me who John's parents were or could someone kindly give me the online parish clerk for Woodbridge so that I could contact them do you think? Hoping that someone would kindly give me some information on this family. Thank you very much. Diane

Hi, I found what looked likely to be my missing family listed in the workhouse. The family was listed by initals only but when I obtained the birth certificate of the youngest child it said that he was born in Wickham Market Workhouse in 1861 exactly the time span that I could not trace them. So it might be worth looking to see if a matching set of initals, and if your lucky occupations beside the initals, give any help. Good Luck, Carol  ----- Original Message ---- From: Janine Fisher <janinef@aapt.net.au> To: SUFFOLK@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 29 September, 2010 14:16:02 Subject: [SFK-UK] Barber Family Ipswich 1881 Census Dear List I have recently started searching my family history after a long break of nearly ten years.  Alas!! The bricks are all still there in the wall.  I would like to ask some advice about the family listed below.  I have them on the 1871 England Census and the 1891 England Census but cannot find them anywhere for the 1881 England Census.  Here are the details; 1871 England Census, Ipswich, Suffolk, St Margaret, 55 Tower Terrace James Barber                    Head    Carpenter and Joiner    Ipswich 29 Frances Barber                  Wife Claydon                26 Stephen Barber                Son        Scholar Ipswich                7 James Barber                    Son Ipswich                5 Henry Barber                    Son Ipswich                3 Frances Barber                  Dau Ipswich                8 months            And then 1891 England Census, Ipswich, Ipswich Eastern, Ridge Cottage, 4 Rosehill Road James Barber                    Head    Carpenter and Builder  Ipswich 49 Frances Barber                  Wife Claydon                46 Henry Barber                    Son        Gardener Ipswich                23 Elizabeth Barber              Son        Dressmaker "                        18 Francis Barber                  Son        Scholar "                        13 Charles Barber                  Son              " "                        10 Edward Barber                  Son              " "                        8 Christine Barber              Dau              " "                        6 Frederick Barber              Son "                        3 Phillip Barber                    Son "                        7/12 I realise that the younger children won't be on the 1881 Census but I have searched for the others with no avail.  Could they have been quarantined, imprisoned or even sent to Coventry J ?  I would greatly appreciate any suggestions or help. Kind Regards Janine Fisher Australia              ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is there someone on the list who could undertake a search/check a couple of records at the Ipswich CRO. I have been provided with some specific 'record references' which hopefully would make the check/search straightforward. Please contact me direct 'off-list' if able to help Thanks Ken Woodgate Wellington New Zealand

Hello Janine, Have you thought that it could be miss-translated as something else? I looked for Anthony LAZZAM in the 1881 Census over 3 solid days to find him as transcribed as Anthony FAZZAM. I just hit Anthony and went from there at the beginning. I used his Christian name as it was slightly unusual. Maybe Frances may help but it will be a long shot and job. Good luck and happy hunting. Ingrid Billings. -----Original Message----- From: suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janine Fisher Sent: 29 September 2010 14:16 To: SUFFOLK@rootsweb.com Subject: [SFK-UK] Barber Family Ipswich 1881 Census Dear List I have recently started searching my family history after a long break of nearly ten years. Alas!! The bricks are all still there in the wall. I would like to ask some advice about the family listed below. I have them on the 1871 England Census and the 1891 England Census but cannot find them anywhere for the 1881 England Census. Here are the details; 1871 England Census, Ipswich, Suffolk, St Margaret, 55 Tower Terrace James Barber Head Carpenter and Joiner Ipswich 29 Frances Barber Wife Claydon 26 Stephen Barber Son Scholar Ipswich 7 James Barber Son Ipswich 5 Henry Barber Son Ipswich 3 Frances Barber Dau Ipswich 8 months And then 1891 England Census, Ipswich, Ipswich Eastern, Ridge Cottage, 4 Rosehill Road James Barber Head Carpenter and Builder Ipswich 49 Frances Barber Wife Claydon 46 Henry Barber Son Gardener Ipswich 23 Elizabeth Barber Son Dressmaker " 18 Francis Barber Son Scholar " 13 Charles Barber Son " " 10 Edward Barber Son " " 8 Christine Barber Dau " " 6 Frederick Barber Son " 3 Phillip Barber Son " 7/12 I realise that the younger children won't be on the 1881 Census but I have searched for the others with no avail. Could they have been quarantined, imprisoned or even sent to Coventry J ? I would greatly appreciate any suggestions or help. Kind Regards Janine Fisher Australia

answered off line. Mavis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Syd Hockey" <syd@sydandjudy.freeserve.co.uk> To: <suffolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 9:18 PM Subject: [SFK-UK] 1851 & 1861 census > Hello Everybody, > If there is anyone with the 1851 & 1861 census > for SUFFOLK would they kindly keep a look out for FAIRFIELD TUCK or > NATHANIEL FAIRFIELD TUCK, he was born about 1849 at IPSWICH SUFFOLK and > his > parents were JOSEPH & ELIZABETH TUCK, thank you. > Regards, > Syd > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 2010/09/28 20:17, Nivard Ovington wrote: > > The 1881 household > There's also a son at Eton :-) -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

Hi Rebecca & Listers ! I see that you have already been sent the 1871 & 1881 Census information that you require for your son's project. I think you will find that the correct spelling of the place is Elveden ? - although I notice that the 1881 Census that Nivard has sent you manages to spell it in two different ways on successive lines ! Elveden Hall is a very large estate right beside the A11 main road and just about a mile before you cross the boundary into Norfolk. Normally access to the estate is rather restricted but I am lucky enough to have visited it as part of a group on a bus tour, and it is very impressive with beautiful grounds. The very next place on the A11 is the town of Thetford in Norfolk, and if there is any way that you can get there (?) it has a life-size statue of Duleep Singh on horseback which is well worth seeing ! You may even be able to find a picture of it if you carry out a 'Google' search ? Best Wishes ! Roger Partridge. ---------------------- On 28 Sep 2010, at 18:41, Rebecca Chapman wrote: > Hi, > > I wonder if someone would be kind enough to look-up someone for > me? His > name was Duleep Singh (the last Maharajah of the Punjab) and I > believe he > was residing in Elvenden/Elvendon, Suffolk at the time of the 1871 > and 1881 > census'. > > Any help would be much appreciated (my son is studying this at > school and > would like to find out what servants etc he had in his household). > > Many thanks for your time > > Best wishes > > > > Rebecca > >

Hi Rebecca It may be worthwhile showing your son the 1881 census on familysearch where he can find Duleep SINGH with his household (its never to early to start you know <g>) The 1881 household Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Duleep (Maharajah) SINGH Head Male Maharanee SINGH Wife M Female 32 Cairo, Egypt Bamba (Princess) SINGH Daur Female 11 London, London, Middlesex, England Catherine (Princess) SINGH Daur Female 9 London, London, Middlesex, England Sophia (Princess) SINGH Daur Female 4 London, London, Middlesex, England Frederick (Prince) SINGH Son Male 13 London, London, Middlesex, England Albert (Prince) SINGH Son Male 1 London, London, Middlesex, England Elizabeth CRACKNELL Servant M Female 60 Eriswell, Suffolk, England Domestic Serv Housekeeper Helen A. BROOKS Servant U Female 21 Malta Governess Arthur O. JARY Servant U Male 22 West Indies Tutor Mary J. SMALLEY Servant U Female 23 Norton, Northampton, England Domestic Serv Ladies Maid Keziah H. CANDY Servant U Female 30 Walton, Somerset, England Domestic Serv Cook Lydia ANDERSON Servant U Female 28 Scotland Domestic Serv Laundry Maid Mary A BUMSTED Servant U Female 25 Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England Domestic Serv Laundry Maid Jane BIRD Servant U Female 44 Lanbridgeham, Hertford, England Domestic Serv House Maid Elizabeth HISCOCK Servant U Female 24 Lymington, Hampshire, England Domestic Serv House Maid Mary FARROW Servant U Female 22 Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England Domestic Serv House Maid Eliza BODDY Servant U Female 20 Buntingford, Hertford, England Domestic Serv Kitchen Maid Bessie DOWNIE Serv U Female 16 Ashford, Kent, England Domestic Serv Scullerymaid Margaret MAYES Serv U Female 20 Sandsend, York, England Domestic Serv Ladies Maid (Continued) Source Information: Dwelling Elveden Hall Census Place Elvenden, Suffolk, England Family History Library Film 1341447 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 1846 / 4 Page Number 2 Household: (Continued from Duleep (Maharajah) SINGH) Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Bertha GRANGER Serv U Female 17 Shelford, Cambridge, England Domestic Serv Nursery Maid Arroor SINGH Serv U Male 25 Punjab, India Valet Hookum SINGH Serv M Male 43 Punjab, India Valet William MC LEOD Serv U Male 24 Scotland Footman George GEAMS Serv U Male 21 Stoke St Gregory, Somerset, England Footman George H. BAKER Serv U Male 17 Barnham, Suffolk, England Usher Source Information: Dwelling Elveden Hall Census Place Elvenden, Suffolk, England Family History Library Film 1341447 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 1846 / 4 Page Number 2 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > I wonder if someone would be kind enough to look-up someone for me? His > name was Duleep Singh (the last Maharajah of the Punjab) and I believe he > was residing in Elvenden/Elvendon, Suffolk at the time of the 1871 and > 1881 > census'. > > Any help would be much appreciated (my son is studying this at school and > would like to find out what servants etc he had in his household). > > Many thanks for your time > > Best wishes > > Rebecca

reply sent off line Martin Clowes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rebecca Chapman" <rebecca@eopeo.com> To: <SUFFOLK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 6:41 PM Subject: [SFK-UK] 1871 & 1881 look-up please > > Hi, > > > > I wonder if someone would be kind enough to look-up someone for me? His > name was Duleep Singh (the last Maharajah of the Punjab) and I believe he > was residing in Elvenden/Elvendon, Suffolk at the time of the 1871 and > 1881 > census'. > > > > Any help would be much appreciated (my son is studying this at school and > would like to find out what servants etc he had in his household). > > > > Many thanks for your time > > Best wishes > > > > Rebecca > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Household SINGH, Albert Prince 1880 1 M Mildenhall Suffolk VIEW VIEW Household SINGH, Arroor 1856 25 M Mildenhall Suffolk VIEW VIEW Household SINGH, Bamba Princess 1870 11 F Mildenhall Suffolk VIEW VIEW Household SINGH, Catherine Princess 1872 9 F Mildenhall Suffolk VIEW VIEW Household SINGH, Duleep Maharajah null ? M Mildenhall Suffolk VIEW VIEW Household SINGH, Frederick Prince 1868 13 M Mildenhall Suffolk VIEW VIEW Household SINGH, Hookum 1838 43 M Mildenhall Suffolk VIEW VIEW Household SINGH, Maharanee 1849 32 F Mildenhall Suffolk VIEW VIEW Household SINGH, Sophia Princess 1877 4 F Mildenhall Suffolk VIEW VIEW - 1881 census Martin ---- Original Message ----- From: "Rebecca Chapman" <rebecca@eopeo.com> To: <SUFFOLK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 6:41 PM Subject: [SFK-UK] 1871 & 1881 look-up please > > Hi, > > > > I wonder if someone would be kind enough to look-up someone for me? His > name was Duleep Singh (the last Maharajah of the Punjab) and I believe he > was residing in Elvenden/Elvendon, Suffolk at the time of the 1871 and > 1881 > census'. > > > > Any help would be much appreciated (my son is studying this at school and > would like to find out what servants etc he had in his household). > > > > Many thanks for your time > > Best wishes > > > > Rebecca > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

1871 census SINGH, The Maharajah Duleep Head M 32 1839 India SINGH, Bamba Wife F 22 1849 Egypt SINGH, Victor A J Son M 4 1867 Middlesex SINGH, Frederic V Son M 3 1868 Middlesex SINGH, Bamba S J Daughter F 1 1870 Middlesex SCOTT, Thomas A Visitor M 31 1840 India SCOTT, Sarah J Visitor F 26 1845 Surrey SCOTT, Harriet A Visitor F 4 1867 India SCOTT, Lousia A Visitor F 1 1870 India SCOTT, Helena E N Visitor F 0 1871 Cornwall BRADY, Hannah Visitor's Servant F 29 1842 Ireland BOILEAN, Percy A Visitor M 5 1866 India HILL, Clark M Servant F 45 1826 Worcestershire HUMPHRIES, Anne Servant F 45 1826 Berkshire DATES, Elizabeth Servant F 38 1833 Dorset HOWES, Charlotte Servant F 48 1823 Surrey BROKER, Mary Servant F 26 1845 Surrey BELL, Elizabeth Servant F 27 1844 Yorkshire MARSON, Elizabeth Servant F 29 1842 Middlesex HARDING, Sarah Servant F 19 1852 Suffolk TOMLIN, Mary A Servant F 19 1852 Hampshire RAYNER, Sarah Servant F 25 1846 Suffolk FARRIS, Sarah Servant F 35 1836 Suffolk CROWE, Sarah Servant F 19 1852 Rutland FETCHES, Fanny Servant F 19 1852 Suffolk LYDDEARD, Mary A Servant F 60 1811 Berkshire HOWES, John Servant M 58 1813 Norfolk WALL, James Servant M 39 1832 Somerset ROBERTS, Mark Servant M 20 1851 Hertfordshire GILL, Henry T Servant M 31 1840 Somerset MEAD, Thomas Servant M 26 1845 Yorkshire ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rebecca Chapman" <rebecca@eopeo.com> To: <SUFFOLK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 6:41 PM Subject: [SFK-UK] 1871 & 1881 look-up please > > Hi, > > > > I wonder if someone would be kind enough to look-up someone for me? His > name was Duleep Singh (the last Maharajah of the Punjab) and I believe he > was residing in Elvenden/Elvendon, Suffolk at the time of the 1871 and > 1881 > census'. > > > > Any help would be much appreciated (my son is studying this at school and > would like to find out what servants etc he had in his household). > > > > Many thanks for your time > > Best wishes > > > > Rebecca > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, I wonder if someone would be kind enough to look-up someone for me? His name was Duleep Singh (the last Maharajah of the Punjab) and I believe he was residing in Elvenden/Elvendon, Suffolk at the time of the 1871 and 1881 census'. Any help would be much appreciated (my son is studying this at school and would like to find out what servants etc he had in his household). Many thanks for your time Best wishes Rebecca

G'day Terry King Whilst A line of "Segger" with spelling variations sit in my family tree, the connection to my own family tree is through an illegitimate child, who of course took his mother's maiden surname. But the two web page URLs below also point to another researcher, who has many variations of the surname Segger in her family . http://homepages.tesco.net/speckledduckegg/ips.htm http://www.lisasfamilyandotheranimals.me.uk/ This person also may be able to assist you regards eddie tricker

Thank you Anne for your kind help. Regards, Syd Syd Hockey wrote: > Hello Everybody, > If there is anyone with the 1851& 1861 > census > for SUFFOLK would they kindly keep a look out for FAIRFIELD TUCK or > NATHANIEL FAIRFIELD TUCK, he was born about 1849 at IPSWICH SUFFOLK and > his > parents were JOSEPH& ELIZABETH TUCK, thank you. > Regards, 1861 Class: RG9; Piece: 1165; Folio: 195; Page: 1 9 Cold Dunghills, Ipswich St Margaret Joseph Tuck 57 Coal Porter b Westminster, London Elizabeth Tuck 57 b Ipswich Joseph John Tuck 18 Baker b Ipswich Caroline Tuck 14 Scholar b Ipswich Fairfield Tuck 12 Scholar b Ipswich 1851 HO107; Piece: 1800; Folio: 616; Page: 15 Cold Dunghills Ipswich St Margaret Joseph Tuck 45 Laborer b Mdx Westminster Elizabeth Tuck 46 b Ipswich Ellen Tuck 17 b Ipswich George Tuck 16 Genl labourer b Ipswich Joseph Tuck 9 b Ipswich Harriett Tuck 7 b Ipswich Caroline Tuck 3 b Ipswich Nat F Tuck 7 b Ipswich Births Sep 1849 TUCK Nathaniel S*field Ipswich 12 351 (correction sub mitted to FreeBMD, it's definitely Fairfield) Anne South Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All   If anyone is conected to these families I would be happy to compare notes. I'm researching late 17th to early 19th centuries.   Regards   John    

Terry King <terrymking@talktalk.net> wrote: > I am searching for the parents of ISAAC > SEGGER, born ca 1810 in Kersey, according to the 1851 census, he married > Harriett Hill in 1832 in Kersey. Terry If you look at http://www.terryaspinall.com/suffolk-surname-list/suff_sc_sh.html you will find 3 researchers with interest in the Segger name in Kersey. This page is from the Suffolk Surnames List, currently hosted by Terry Aspinal, which has been dormant for over 2 years since the death of the webmaster Ray Long. It may well be that the email addresses are no longer valid but may be worth a try. Good luck Brian

Hello all, I am searching for the parents of ISAAC SEGGER, born ca 1810 in Kersey, according to the 1851 census, he married Harriett Hill in 1832 in Kersey. The IGI shows him born there in 1810 but no parental info. Can anyone help?, maybe have access to the Kersey parish records ?. Thank you, Terry King.

Terry I don't have an Isaac Segger, but I have lots of others of that surname, plus variations: Siggers, Sigger, Segers, Seggar, Segger, Seggers. They stem from Robert Siggers, b c1734. I have only one child recorded for him - Henry Seggar - but there could well have been others, so we might be looking at the same family.  Gill ________________________________ From: Terry King <terrymking@talktalk.net> To: SUFFOLK@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 27 September, 2010 13:01:23 Subject: [SFK-UK] SEGGER (and variations) Hello all,                                 I am searching for the parents of ISAAC SEGGER, born ca 1810 in Kersey, according to the 1851 census,  he married Harriett Hill in 1832 in Kersey.                                  The IGI shows him born there in 1810 but no parental info. Can anyone help?, maybe have access to the Kersey parish records ?.                                                                 Thank you,  Terry King.  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message