Thank you Brian I love all the history you add into the messages. I am planning a trip to Ipswich next year, after searching my family from there for the past 20 years. I hope they are still serving Cob Toppers, I can't wait to get there. Kind Regards Janine -----Original Message----- From: suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lummis Sent: Sunday, 31 October 2010 4:16 AM To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] FW: Frances COBBOLD Marriage 1817 Janine Fisher <janinef@aapt.net.au> wrote: > I would like to ask for help with information on the marriage of Frances > COBBOLD to Robert MANNING, 27 May 1817, Suffolk, England. > I believe they are the parents of Susannah MANNING born C 1817 in Haughley > , Suffolk. > I am very excited at the prospects of Frances COBBOLD being a relative of > Rev. Richard COBBOLD the author. Is there anyone who knows the family > history of the COBBOLDs in Ipswich? Don't get too excited, Janine, as COBBOLD is a very common name in Suffolk! If you Google 'Cobbold Suffolk' you will get over 90,000 results. There were COBBOLD families in the Stowmarket area - and not far from Haughley - around the beginning of the 19th century so your Frances could be a part of one of those families. Apart from the Rev. Richard Cobbold many of those Suffolk born people on the list of mature years will remember with fondness drinking Cobbold beers and when I was young, a Cob Topper was the drink of the day - it was a half pint bottle of Cobnut (a sweet brown ale) and a half a pint of mild from the barrel. You will find details of Glemham Hall - the family seat of the Cobbold family - online and in the days of Lady Blanche Cobbold, she used to sit at the gate welcoming paying visitors to the family home. Supporters of Ipswich Town Football Club will also remember with affection the reputation of the Cobbolds - particularly John - when they chaired the club. John Cobbold always said that the result of the match did not matter but the quality of the wine after the match did! There is a Family Tree on http://www.cobboldfht.com/ but your Frances does not appear. So your Frances could be related to one of the notable Cobbolds or more likely one of the other families of lesser means. There are a number of Cobbold researchers so you may find someone with a common interest. Have a look at http://www.terryaspinall.com/suffolk-surname-list/suff_co.html which lists a number of researchers but please bear in mind that this resource has not been updated for over 2 years so the email addresses may not work. Good luck Brian ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From: Janine Fisher [mailto:janinef@aapt.net.au] Sent: Sunday, 31 October 2010 1:29 AM To: 'SUFFOLK-L-request@rootsweb.com' Subject: Frances COBBOLD Marriage 1817 Dear List I would like to ask for help with information on the marriage of Frances COBBOLD to Robert MANNING, 27 May 1817, Suffolk, England. I believe they are the parents of Susannah MANNING born C 1817 in Haughley , Suffolk. I am very excited at the prospects of Frances COBBOLD being a relative of Rev. Richard COBBOLD the author. Is there anyone who knows the family history of the COBBOLDs in Ipswich? Thank you in advance Kind regards Janine Fisher Australia

Hi Phil ! Yes, it is quite an active List ! I suggest that you try again ! Perhaps this additional item from me will stir it into activity ?? Best Wishes ! Roger. --------------------- On 30 Oct 2010, at 21:55, Phil White wrote: > Hello Listers. I have tried to join the Stow List (ENG-SFK-STOWMARKET) > and sent in 2 emails but have not recvd a reply. > Can anyone tell if that List is active? This involves my > research of > the Orsborne family, on which I am making good progress but the area > involving the branch I am working on seems to be laa around > Stowmarket, > Stowupland, Old Newton etc so I though this other list might help in > getting at the BMD data from the registers Phil White in New > Hampshire > Roots in Sussex & IOW > >

Janine Fisher <janinef@aapt.net.au> wrote: > I would like to ask for help with information on the marriage of Frances > COBBOLD to Robert MANNING, 27 May 1817, Suffolk, England. > I believe they are the parents of Susannah MANNING born C 1817 in Haughley > , Suffolk. > I am very excited at the prospects of Frances COBBOLD being a relative of > Rev. Richard COBBOLD the author. Is there anyone who knows the family > history of the COBBOLDs in Ipswich? Don't get too excited, Janine, as COBBOLD is a very common name in Suffolk! If you Google 'Cobbold Suffolk' you will get over 90,000 results. There were COBBOLD families in the Stowmarket area - and not far from Haughley - around the beginning of the 19th century so your Frances could be a part of one of those families. Apart from the Rev. Richard Cobbold many of those Suffolk born people on the list of mature years will remember with fondness drinking Cobbold beers and when I was young, a Cob Topper was the drink of the day - it was a half pint bottle of Cobnut (a sweet brown ale) and a half a pint of mild from the barrel. You will find details of Glemham Hall - the family seat of the Cobbold family - online and in the days of Lady Blanche Cobbold, she used to sit at the gate welcoming paying visitors to the family home. Supporters of Ipswich Town Football Club will also remember with affection the reputation of the Cobbolds - particularly John - when they chaired the club. John Cobbold always said that the result of the match did not matter but the quality of the wine after the match did! There is a Family Tree on http://www.cobboldfht.com/ but your Frances does not appear. So your Frances could be related to one of the notable Cobbolds or more likely one of the other families of lesser means. There are a number of Cobbold researchers so you may find someone with a common interest. Have a look at http://www.terryaspinall.com/suffolk-surname-list/suff_co.html which lists a number of researchers but please bear in mind that this resource has not been updated for over 2 years so the email addresses may not work. Good luck Brian

Hello Listers. I have tried to join the Stow List (ENG-SFK-STOWMARKET) and sent in 2 emails but have not recvd a reply. Can anyone tell if that List is active? This involves my research of the Orsborne family, on which I am making good progress but the area involing the branch I am working on seems to be laa around Stowmarket, Stowupland, Old Newton etc so I though this other list might help in getting at the BMD data from the registers Phil White in New Hampshire Roots in Sussex & IOW

Hi Ron, Think this is the info you need:- GRO [General Register Office] Marriage Index Reference Frederick J Bartlett & Lucy V Pritchard 1919 Mar Q Kings Norton 6D 119 GRO Birth Index Reference Stanley G J Bartlett 1919 Sept Q Kings Norton 6D 221 [Mother's Maiden Name recorded as Pritchard] As a death nothing for circa 1919, however there is a Stanley George Bartlett who died in July 1996 bn 14 Jun 1919 Sorry I can not help more. Heather

Claude St. Aubyn FARRER was the son of Samuel and Rosanna nee MUNNINGS.. A noted Physician and Gynaecologist he lived in London but died in hospital in Northampton on 20th May 1940 and was buried in Lowestoft Cemetery on the 23rd May 1940. Does anyone have any information or knowledge of this family? If anyone has any spare time when next visiting Lowestoft Record Office would they have a look to see if there is a report of the funeral or burial service. Elizabeth FARRER was my great/great/grandmother who married James YALLOP and I am trying to see if there is a family connection. Any help will be greatly appreciated Beryl Cooper

The specifics of the GRO Index are there for all to see on http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ They married in the March qtr of 1919 Stanley G J was born Sep qtr 1919 and can't see a death indexed by FreeBMD up to 1940 Using the GRO references you can order the marriage/birth certificates online at http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ Price is 9.50 pounds each using the GRO references, more if they search. Buying the certificate is the only way to determine actual dates Mel Smith Whitby, Ontario, Canada -----Original Message----- From: suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of RONALD BARTLETT Sent: October 29, 2010 8:00 AM To: suffolk; suffolk-request Subject: [SFK-UK] Marrage and Birth Searching for the marriage date of Frederick J. Bartlett (my father) to Lucy V. Pritchard ca 1919 in Kings Norton, England. I also am searching for the birth/death of Stanley Bartlett, a child of this marriage, ca 1919. He would be my half brother. Thank you and happy hunting, Ron Bartlett, USA ronbart12@msn.com<mailto:ronbart12@msn.com> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Searching for the marriage date of Frederick J. Bartlett (my father) to Lucy V. Pritchard ca 1919 in Kings Norton, England. I also am searching for the birth/death of Stanley Bartlett, a child of this marriage, ca 1919. He would be my half brother. Thank you and happy hunting, Ron Bartlett, USA ronbart12@msn.com<mailto:ronbart12@msn.com>

Thank you, Nivard! I appreciate your help. Ruth USA From: Nivard Ovington Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 4:09 PM To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] RE marriage- in St. James, Bury St Edmunds Both single of this Parish Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >I went to archive.org and could not find these transcriptions. WorldCat >(as a source on archive.org) did have images of St. James baptisms, but I >could not find marriages. I am interested in 20 Oct, 1724 marriage at St. >James of Thomas Jarvis and Mary Peachy - did it indicate they were of >somewhere else? I am looking for the marriage of Thomas Jarvis and Mary >___ who had children baptised at Soham, Cambs. beginning in 1731. > Ruth > USA

Hi all Many thanks to all those folks, (Brad Rogers, Sharon Floate, John A Saul, Ann Chambers and Nivard Ovington) who replied to my request with help and advice as to how I could find the born details on my cousins' Uncles born in India. You have all increased my awareness as to the number of resources available on-line for research in this particular area. Nivard Ovington, who assisted me greatly with the actual data, "back channel", confirmed my research on their deaths, (through full given names, surname) which I tackled through the AIGS, here in Melbourne, on Ancestry.com. Unfortunately the other web sites advised to me, did not contain any data on them, regards Eddie Tricker Australia

May I add my two-pennyworth to this discussion? I have been endeavouring to find family from different parts of India / Asia for some time now and it seems impossible to locate *all* records that one would desire. I have been in touch with the British Library on this and was told /"that the latest baptism records held for Singapore are up to 1868 only, and there is no other United Kingdom archive that holds later records." /[I had wanted 1905]. / "They old an estimated 70% of birth/baptisms, marriages, and death/burials for British and European Christians in the sub-continent of India between 1698 and 1947, and these can be accessed via the indiafamily website."/ Their email then continued /"however, please be aware that the website contains transcriptions for only 300,000 ecclesiastical records out of the total of 2 million held in our collections, so don't be discouraged if your search is unsuccessful." / The family for whom I am doing this research is unwilling to pay for research and as I live in NZ cannot do it myself apart from trying both the indiafamily and the FIBIS websites, with obvious limited success. It would seems that the FIBIS website has continuing transcriptions coming on line and I found this of more use than the indiafamily site. The LDS website noted on the Suffolk forum gave me a snippet of information (a birth date for a wife, whose marriage certificate I already held) - but nothing on this site can be verified as a source is not noted - so be aware of this. It also mis-spelled the name of one of the persons - fortunately I knew of this family otherwise I may have missed it. I have though found information on other possible family members on the IGI section in the past - but again these cannot be verified. Hope this is of use to other researchers? Claire

I had a look at the Family search website out of interest, as my husband's family were in the army in India for a long period in the 1800's. I had previously researched in the India collections in the British Library, but I found a lot more entries on this website than I managed to find at the library. I also found that there were many mis-spellings or transcription errors on the website, so it is worth using wildcard searches, e.g. with an asterisk after the first few letters of the surname. I found Morphett entered as Morphete, Morphell and Morphott, Marphett, and Harphett. Liz Pinkney, Cheshire

I have found that some are in the overseas GRO or some are in the Army returns I have ordered a marriage certificate from the overseas part of the GRO for a marriage in India, & one of my DBIL can get a copy of his birth certificate here as it on the GRO yet the rest of the family are not Regards Janice -----Original Message----- From: suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Colin Gooch Sent: 26 October 2010 18:57 To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] English folk, born in India Hi Nivard et al I have seen the originals of these in the Oriental Section of the British Library, London. Colin Gooch

Hi Nivard I've found many records in this database for an Anglo-Indian family I'm researching, the patriarch of which went to India from Sussex with the Royal Artillery. They lived in Madras. Previously I used to have to go to the India Collections at the British Library to look at the microfilmed registers. So, from this experience, I'd say that parish registers from churches in Madras, deposited in the India Collections, have been indexed and included on the site. Best wishes Sharon On 26/10/2010 13:13, "Nivard Ovington" <ovington1@sky.com> wrote: > Hi Sharon > > I was interested to know the source of these databases, I wondered if they > were from the Overseas GRO indexes but it seems not > > I have not found a specific source for them, just that they were compiled > from films held by the LDS, it does not really say what the source actually > is > > The ones Eddie was after I found in the GRO overseas Army Births indexes and > are not included in the ones on familysearchpilot or fsbeta > > I will have to keep this database in mind when I have the need, fsbeta hides > far to many to search from there at present, hopefully in time that will > improve > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > >> Hi Nivard >> >> I don't know any more about this database, apart from the details below >> which are given on the FamilySearch pilot site itself. >> >> What kind of detail were you after? >> >> Best wishes >> Sharon > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Many thanks Colin Good to know, very useful Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Nivard et al > > I have seen the originals of these in the Oriental Section of the British > Library, London. > > Colin Gooch

Hi Anne Sorry I forgot to reply to yours first time around I knew of those but did not recognise the description but it was worth following up as I was unaware of the source Colin has replied they are from the British Library , these things are always handy to know Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Go to > http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=allCollections&r=3 > and click on the Indian links - the baptisms database has this > information: > > "Index to selected India births and baptisms. Only a few localities are > included and the time period varies > by locality. This collection contains 887,579 records. Due to privacy > laws, recent records may not be > displayed. The year range represents most of the records. A few records > may be earlier or later." > > I presume the same holds for Deaths and Burials, and Marriages > > Anne > South Australia

Hi Nivard et al I have seen the originals of these in the Oriental Section of the British Library, London. Colin Gooch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <ovington1@sky.com> To: <suffolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] English folk, born in India > Hi Sharon > > I was interested to know the source of these databases, I wondered if they > were from the Overseas GRO indexes but it seems not > > I have not found a specific source for them, just that they were compiled > from films held by the LDS, it does not really say what the source > actually > is > > The ones Eddie was after I found in the GRO overseas Army Births indexes > and > are not included in the ones on familysearchpilot or fsbeta > > I will have to keep this database in mind when I have the need, fsbeta > hides > far to many to search from there at present, hopefully in time that will > improve > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > >> Hi Nivard >> >> I don't know any more about this database, apart from the details below >> which are given on the FamilySearch pilot site itself. >> >> What kind of detail were you after? >> >> Best wishes >> Sharon > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is brilliant everyone. Just what I needed. It has clarified for me that I have as thought connected up the incorrect Emma to a John chapman. So can start back there again . A special thank you to everyone. Rhonda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margery W Phair" <m.phair@bigpond.com> To: <suffolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] Marriages for Horham and Dennington > Rhonda, >>From Dennington Parish Records: > 8 Feb 1854, William FISKE, full age, bachelor of Dennington, father Robert > Fiske lbr. > to Emma FISKE, full age spinster of Dennington, father Reuben Fiske lbr. > Witnesses Charles Leeder and Sarah Ann Leeder. > > Reuben FISKE/FISK was my great great grandfather, his daughter, Mary Ann > mentioned earlier, being my great grandmother. Are we related? > > Margery (in NSW) >

Hi Sharon I was interested to know the source of these databases, I wondered if they were from the Overseas GRO indexes but it seems not I have not found a specific source for them, just that they were compiled from films held by the LDS, it does not really say what the source actually is The ones Eddie was after I found in the GRO overseas Army Births indexes and are not included in the ones on familysearchpilot or fsbeta I will have to keep this database in mind when I have the need, fsbeta hides far to many to search from there at present, hopefully in time that will improve Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Nivard > > I don't know any more about this database, apart from the details below > which are given on the FamilySearch pilot site itself. > > What kind of detail were you after? > > Best wishes > Sharon