I often see the same sort of enquiry re what epidemics struck in certain time frames However it should perhaps be kept in mind that just because people died in the same period as an epidemic happened it does not automatically mean they died of the same Mortality rates were far higher then Where epidemics struck the Vicar often made notes against the burials so perhaps worth checking that but the reality is they could have died of just about anything in the middle of a plague Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > In the same vein, does anyone know if there was anything 'doing the > rounds' > in the Marlesford area in 1800? I have three children dying within the > period 22nd November - 1st December 1800, > > thanks, > Janet
The three Boynes were the only burials in that period so I guess it was something in just that family Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet MacDonald" <glaschujan@yahoo.co.uk> To: <suffolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] Epidemics In the same vein, does anyone know if there was anything 'doing the rounds' in the Marlesford area in 1800? I have three children dying within the period 22nd November - 1st December 1800, thanks, Janet ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Something else to keep in mind. Infant mortality rates were often highest in the coldest winter months. ________________________________ From: k.finch <k.finch@ntlworld.com> To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, November 6, 2010 11:08:08 AM Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] Epidemics The three Boynes were the only burials in that period so I guess it was something in just that family Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet MacDonald" <glaschujan@yahoo.co.uk> To: <suffolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] Epidemics In the same vein, does anyone know if there was anything 'doing the rounds' in the Marlesford area in 1800? I have three children dying within the period 22nd November - 1st December 1800, thanks, Janet ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
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If you have any questions about the Boards or what the following is, pls contact me off-list at: mailto:SUFFOLK-admin@rootsweb.com . Thanks, Peter SUFFOLK List Admin. -------------------------------------------------- Nunn Family 1942 Ipswich This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: john193_1 Surnames: Nunn. Gallifant. Wythe Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8626/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am tryng to find out more info regarding the Nunn family who were tragically killed in August 1942 when their Anderson shelter in Nacton Road, was hit by a German bomb. I know the Father,known as Joe survived, but the names of the other 8 children and the Mother, I am not sure. I know two of them were deaf & dumb. Is there anyone who is now directly related to them. I do know there were Nunn's living in Dombey Road, Ipswich at the time. Maud Gallifant/Nunn married my Uncle William Wythe 1888 - 1944. Any help would be appreciated. John -------------------------------------------------- Re: Elgoods of Suffolk This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tinabond1974 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/2027.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: hi did some of your anceters came out of australia because my gg grandmother was margaret parsons nee stewart she married my gg grandfather james parsons he was from england. -------------------------------------------------- Re: Elgoods of Suffolk This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: hwatson701 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/2027.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: No, no ancestors from Australia, although one great-great-grandfather skedaddled to Tasmania from Scotland after making his girlfriend pregnant with my great-grandfather. Harry -------------------------------------------------- Re: looking for my uncle This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: crusoe123 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8624.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You don't give enough information for anyone to help you. What year are you talking about, and is he in Australia or England. You have put this on an England, Suffolk board? -------------------------------------------------- Re: Kathleen & Victor Martin This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: crusoe123 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8623.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Deaths for the time period you mention are fairly easy to find, and they give a date of birth. Do you have any idea of the ages of these people, to narrow the search? -------------------------------------------------- Re: looking for my uncle This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tinabond1974 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8624.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: hi well i was looking about 1930 to 1940s and he was born in australia too. i must of put it on the wrong bord too.. -------------------------------------------------- Re: Stebbing-circus family This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jwilki199 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/2339.2.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Mark, Thanks for your reply. You are correct, the family name was 'Stebbing' my husband typed it for me and misheard the name. I also remember going to see the Bullers family at Poulton le Fylde but there was nobody in at the time and I don't remember going again so I never met them. Just to continue with the performing theme, my Mother Miri Bloxham (Queenies Daughter) ran a dance school called 'Stebbing School Of Dancing' in Grimshaw Street Preston where she taught ballet and tap in the 1960s. Needless to say I was enrolled from the age of about 2 or 3 until I was 10 years old. Later she also owned a booking agency 'Stoplight Enterprise' providing acts for clubs which was run from rented property in Deepdale Road Preston. I have attached 2 photos of Queenie, the 1st with my Mother and me the other holding me as a baby with my brother Nigel. Regards Karen -------------------------------------------------- Re: Nunn Family 1942 Ipswich This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pamsmadhouse1 Surnames: Nunn Classification: death Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8626.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi John Following deaths listed on www.cwgc.org: 25th August 1942 at 501 Nacton Rd, Nacton, Suffolk Kate Louisa Nunn aged 37 Husband of Ernest Nunn Children of Ernest & Kate Louisa Nunn: Charles William aged 14 Doreen Doris aged 5 Ernest Joseph aged 16 Herbert aged 8 Jean Carol aged 8 months Kenneth aged 4 Raymond Douglas aged 10 Hope it helps Pam -------------------------------------------------- Re: Nunn Family 1942 Ipswich This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pamsmadhouse1 Surnames: Nunn Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8626.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi again A little more info: Ernest J Nunn married Kate L Seaton Dec Q 1923 Ipswich 4a 2366 2 other births found for this couple - both infant deaths: Donald E Nunn b. Sep Q 1925 Ipswich 4a 1698 died 1925 aged 0 4a 827 Male Nunn b. Jun Q 1931 died 1931 aged 0 Ipswich 4a 1044 Pam -------------------------------------------------- Re: Nunn Family 1942 Ipswich This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: john193_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8626.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Many thanks Pam, just what I was looking for. Kind regards John -------------------------------------------------- Re: Kathleen & Victor Martin This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jmartin88 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8623.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for your reply. Someone replied to my e-mail address with dates of death for this couple. Thank you again. -------------------------------------------------- Re: parish records lookups This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: psukbu Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8609.9/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Anything on Upcraft would be appreciated!! Thsnks Ken -------------------------------------------------- Thingoe Registration District This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Robesure Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8627/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have just received a Marriage Certificate which states that the marriage took place in the Superintendent's Office in the district of Thingoe. I would assume that this office was situated in Bury St Edmunds, even though Thingoe did not include the town. Can anybody confirm this or better still give me an address. The event was in 1840, so quite early for a Registry Office Wedding. I think also that Thingoe workhouse was in Bury. -------------------------------------------------- Re: Thingoe Registration District This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: crusoe123 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8627.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Who signed the certificate, as the 'Registrar', or person officiating? -------------------------------------------------- Re: Thingoe Registration District This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Robesure Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8627.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thomas Edward Robinson, Registrar -------------------------------------------------- Re: Thingoe Registration District This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: crusoe123 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8627.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: On the 1861 census, there is a Thomas E Robinson, in Mildenhall, who is a registrar. On then checking back to the 1841 census, there is a Thomas Robinson, who is also a registrar, at Mildenhall. Obviously the same man. So the question is, was his office also his home? 1841 1841 census transcription details for: Neat Way, Mildenhall Reg. District: Mildenhall Sub District: Lakenheath Parish: Mildenhall Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Neat Way, Mildenhall County: Suffolk Name Relation Sex Age BirthYear Occupation Where Born ROBINSON, Thomas M 40 1801 Suffolk REGISTRAR ROBINSON, Hannah F 40 1801 Suffolk ROBINSON, Hannah F 18 1823 Suffolk ROBINSON, Eliza F 14 1827 ROBINSON, Martha F 12 1829 ROBINSON, James M 10 1831 ROBINSON, Mary F 7 1834 ROBINSON, Harriet F 5 1836 Suffolk ROBINSON, Thomas M 3 1838 Suffolk ROBINSON, Louisa F 1 1840 Suffolk SCULPER, Elizabeth F 74 1767 Suffolk -------------------------------------------------- Re: parish records lookups This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: diamondlifestyle Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8609.8.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: hi Tracy, I'm afraid I've not got the Wixoe records, and can't find anything in the neighbouring parishes that seems relevant. Hope you find them! Kate -------------------------------------------------- Re: parish records lookups This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: diamondlifestyle Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8609.9.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: hi Ken, I've not got much at all, I've found a marriage in the Thorington records: George Upcraft, 23, sgl, of Southwold m Elizabeth Mayhew, 28, sgl on 15 Jan 1879 hope it's one of yours! -------------------------------------------------- Re: Sinclair This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ValerieWalton54 Surnames: Chaplin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8603.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Received marriage certificate today for William Thomas Jones and Mary Sinclair Fanny Chaplin. Marriage: October 31, 1877 Age: both are 21 years old Witnesses: James George Hugill and Sarah Ann Hugill (the aunt and uncle she was living with in 1871 census) Mary's father is James Chaplin (deceased) who's occupation was "Chaplain of a Merchant Ship" I would be interested to see if this ties to your Ipswich Chaplins. When I entered the extra information on Mary's profile a leaf popped up which referred to 1871 census and a Fanny Chaplin, 15yrs. at, what appears to be, a boarding school in Braintree,Colchester, Suffolk. Maybe a cousin? -------------------------------------------------- Re: parish records lookups This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: psukbu Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8609.9.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: THANX -------------------------------------------------- Re: Thingoe Registration District This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Robesure Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8627.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for your theory. There is just one problem, Mildenhall is not in Thingoe district either, it came under Newmarket. I do not think that people especially if they lived on the southern part of Thingoe, such as say Stanningfield, would appreciate a journey to Mildenhall. These districts were set up long before any public transport became available. I can only think that the logical place was in Bury. Also as the sub Offices were situated in Fornham, Rougham and Ixworth, all to the North and West of Bury, those living in the South could only get to Bury. The alternatives were outside the district, Sudbury or Haverhill (Risbridge). I think that I will have to contact the Bury Records Office for a definitive answer. -------------------------------------------------- JOHN MARJORAM b 1832 son of JOHN MARJORAM b 1811 charsfield suffolk This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: piriegeoff Surnames: MARJORAM. GOLDSACK. Classification: marriage Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8628/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thought the following information could be helpful to someone. John Marjoram b 1832 Aldeburgh Suffolk Married my great grandaunt Eliza Goldsack b 1847 Plumstead Kent marriage was at Greenwich in 1876.In 1891 they were living at 17, Aldeburgh road,Aldringham, Suffolk.John died in the late 1890s, in 1901 Eliza was the landlady of the Parrot Inn Aldringham where she remained for many years. Regards Geoff Goldsack b 1941 -------------------------------------------------- Re: parish records lookups for SAMUEL HOWLETT, born WOOLPIT, SUFFOLK This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: joanharvey61d Surnames: HOWLETT/SLOW/MURRELL/GODDARD Classification: birth Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8609.9.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I would be very grateful if you could find the birth or baptism for my gt gt grandfather, SAMUEL HOWLETT, born abt 1840, Woolpit, Suffolk. I have his marriage cert, married ELIZA SLOW (or MURRELL)? 18 Oct 1864, Reigate Register Office, Surrey. His father is JOHN HOWLETT, a Blacksmith. Samuel age is 24, so born about 1840. I cannot seem to find him in the 1841, 1851 or 1861 census, or birth details, so would appreciate any help, thank you. Joan Harvey (nee Hands) from Erith, Kent -------------------------------------------------- Re: Charity Cox Sayers Born 1797 in Beccles Suffolk This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: colinp181 Surnames: Classification: marriage Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8555.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Just started family tree. So far reached back as far as Charles Porter of whom I am a direct descendant. Will send more info as I can after searching local records in Hull. Meanwhile can you give me any info on Charity Cox Sayers. -------------------------------------------------- Re: parish records lookups for SAMUEL HOWLETT, born WOOLPIT, SUFFOLK This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: diamondlifestyle Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8609.9.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: hi Joan, I can't find any record of a Samuel Howlett being baptised in Woolpit I'm afraid. I'm not familiar with the area, are there any other local towns / parishes that he could have been baptised in? Kate -------------------------------------------------- Re: parish records lookups for SAMUEL HOWLETT, born WOOLPIT, SUFFOLK This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: joanharvey61d Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8609.9.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Kate Many thanks for your quick reply and help. Perhaps my Samuel Howlett was Baptised at Bury St Edmunds? I'm sure that is the nearest town to Woolpit in Suffolk. I'm not too sure of the area either. Thanks again Joan --------------------------------------------------
Hi, am looking for information on Joseph Fison and Annie Ridley and their children born between 1841 and 1860 Joseph, Anne,, James, Edward, Mary Elizabeth, Eliza, Janet, Charles, William and Alice Gertrude Am interested in marriages and descendants of these folks please Many thanks Ruth Ridley
Thanks to Ken, Marg and Lesley for their suggestions re the above. Now I have something positive to do this wet weekend! Brian in still soggy Letchworth, the First Garden City
and in Bury St Edmunds too. Pat ... ----- Original Message ----- From: "k.finch" <k.finch@ntlworld.com> >I am surprised no one has mentioned the polio epidemic in Ipswich c1960. I > remember it well being at school in the town at the time > > Ken
In the same vein, does anyone know if there was anything 'doing the rounds' in the Marlesford area in 1800? I have three children dying within the period 22nd November - 1st December 1800, thanks, Janet
Hello Vanessa The Suffolk FHS has published indexes locating the marriage of William ATKINSON and Martha JERMAIN in 1795 at Drinkstone (not Bradfield Combust) and these burials at Stanningfield: 1832 William ATKINSON of Stanningfield aged 71 (b. 1760-61) 1843 Martha ATKINSON of Bury UH [the workhouse] aged 71 (b. 1771-72) So your next step would be baptisms. FamilySearch databases like the IGI have the christening of Martha, daughter of Edward and Martha JERMAIN, at "Sudbury, Suffolk" in 1773 (batch no C020916), but that was probably the archdeaconry rather than the parish, which may have been Beyton (next to Drinkstone), as Edward JARMIN of Beyton married Martha MILES at Old Newton in 1771. Best of luck David Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 12:30:35 +1300 From: "vanessa teague" <vanessateague@xtra.co.nz> Hello All, I am looking for any information on how to find more on these families. I have found that William ATKINSON married Martha JERMAIN 1795 Bradfield Combust and had Ann 1797 and John 1804. The later being born in Stanningfield. I found a family tree online and I am checking the information but where would I go to go back further or get any other information. Thanking you for your time Vanessa in New Zealand
In some old documents I bought are a number of collection slips for tax payments and other papers from various renters for a portion of /Drakes Meadow in Ipswich/ owned by Thomas Vesey ( attorney in Sproughton) . George Morgan Dec 1735 & 1729 Richard Goddard 1734 John Skinner 1723 Robert Buxton May 21 1710 7 1722 Will Brooke 1727 & 1728 Robert Clarke 1722 Henry Chaplin -collector 1725/6 Thomas Coe - collector 1729 Richard Girling - collector 1727 James Cuthbart - 1730 John Connings -collector 1729 If anyone is related to these Ipswich people let me know and I will scan their signatures and send to you next week. Would be most interested if someone could get me a current photo of the area - given this names still exists. David Vesey Toronto
I am surprised no one has mentioned the polio epidemic in Ipswich c1960. I remember it well being at school in the town at the time Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Partridge" <r.partridge@ukonline.co.uk> To: <suffolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] Epidemics Additional Info. - 2. > Hi Listers ! Further to this information I append an answer which > was sent to the > Essex List in July 2009 - Nothing specific to Suffolk in 1835, but > you may want > to keep it on file ? > Best Wishes ! Roger. > -------------------- > On 5 Nov 2010, at 11:56, Colin Fenn wrote: >> David <d.bill@ntlworld.com> writes >>> Can anybody tell me which epidemic was threatening Suffolk >>> villages in 1835? >>> Was it perhaps cholera?? I have whole families dying at the same >>> time! >>> Valerie Bill >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---------------- > > I saved this some years ago, not sure where it came from ! > > Diseases through History > > YEAR AILMENT PLACE > 1350* Bubonic Plague World wide > 1499 Bubonic Plague London (UK) > 1507* "Fever" UK (lasted from 1507 - 1550) > 1551 Influenza UK > 1555 Famine UK (rains bought famine and weakness) > 1556* Bubonic Plague UK (this was an extreme event and > lasted until 1563) > 1578 Bubonic Plague UK > 1586 Bubonic Plague Chesterfield UK (all Harvests failed) > 1591 Acute Distress UK (as a result of above) > 1593 Bubonic Plague UK > 1596* Famine UK (harvests failed and epidemics began) > 1603 Bubonic Plague UK > 1612 Bubonic Plague UK > 1617* Smallpox US (amongst the Native Indians) > 1623 Bad Harvest UK (lasted 2 years) > 1625* Bubonic Plague UK > 1630 Plague at worst UK (many thousands died) > 1631 Bubonic Plague UK > 1633 Smallpox US (Native Indians) > 1636* Bubonic Plague UK > 1647 Yellow Fever West Indies > 1648 Smallpox US > 1648 Whooping Cough US > 1654 Bubonic Plague UK > 1657 Measles Boston, US > 1662 Smallpox New York, US > 1665* Bubonic Plague UK (extreme) > 1668 Yellow Fever New York, US > 1677* Smallpox Boston, US > 1687 Measles Boston, US > 1690 Yellow Fever NY US > 1699 Yellow Fever SC US > > 1702* Yellow Fever NY US > 1702 Scarlet Fever Boston US > 1706 Yellow Fever SC US > 1713 Measles Boston US > 1721 Smallpox US > 1723 Influenza World wide > 1723* Famine UK (lasted seven years - poor harvests > and resultant epidemics) > 1728 Yellow Fever SC US > 1729 Measles Boston US > 1732 Yellow Fever SC US > 1732 Influenza SC US > 1735* Diphtheria US > 1735* Scarlet Fever New England US (4 years) > 1738 Smallpox Carolina US > 1739* Measles Boston US > 1743* Yellow Fever NY US > 1747 Measles CT, NY, PA, SC, US > 1759 Measles North America > 1761 Influenza US and West Indies > 1763* Smallpox Boston, US > 1772 Measles US > 1775* Influenza World Wide > 1783 Bilious Disorder US ( this was fatal and thought > to be similar to Dysentery) > 1788 Measles PA, NY, US > 1789 Influenza US > 1792* Yellow Fever US (lasted 7 years) > 1793 Unknown Fever PA, US > 1793 Influenza Vermont, Virginia, US > > 1802 Smallpox Nebraska, US > 1803 Yellow Fever NY US > 1820* Fever US > 1826* Cholera World Wide (this lasted until 1837) > 1826* Dengue Fever US and West Indies > 1829* Malaria US > 1831* Cholera UK ( began world wide in 1826) > 1831* Cholera US > 1832 Influenza US > 1833 Cholera Ohio US > 1834 Cholera NY US > 1837 Typhus PA US > 1837 Smallpox US (Native Indians) > 1841 Yellow Fever NO US > 1847 Measles US (Native Indians) > 1847 Yellow Fever NO US > 1848* Cholera World Wide > 1850 Yellow Fever US > 1850* Dengue Fever US > 1851 Cholera IL US > 1852 Yellow Fever NO US > 1853 Cholera UK (began in Birmingham) > 1855 Yellow Fever US > 1857* Influenza World Wide > 1860 Smallpox Pennsylvania US > 1861 Epidemics US (Civil War - numerous infectious > diseases) > 1865 Smallpox US > 1865 Cholera US > 1865 Typhus US > 1868* Smallpox US ( lasted 7 years) > 1873 Cholera US > 1878 Yellow Fever FL US > 1885 Typhoid PA US > 1886 Yellow Fever FL US > 1889* Influenza World Wide > 1893 Polio US (first known outbreak) > > 1900* Plague US > 1901* Smallpox US > 1907* Polio US (lasted 9 years) > 1917 Spanish Influenza World Wide (worst ever outbreak) > 1931 Polio US > 1942* Polio US (lasted 11 years) > 1947* Smallpox UK (lasted 2 years) > 1950 Polio World Wide. > > 2000+ Bird Flu (especially in S.E. Asia) > 2009 Swine Flu (started in Mexico >> USA > World. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Listers ! Further to this information I append an answer which was sent to the Essex List in July 2009 - Nothing specific to Suffolk in 1835, but you may want to keep it on file ? Best Wishes ! Roger. -------------------- On 5 Nov 2010, at 11:56, Colin Fenn wrote: > David <d.bill@ntlworld.com> writes >> Can anybody tell me which epidemic was threatening Suffolk >> villages in 1835? >> Was it perhaps cholera?? I have whole families dying at the same >> time! >> Valerie Bill > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------- I saved this some years ago, not sure where it came from ! Diseases through History YEAR AILMENT PLACE 1350* Bubonic Plague World wide 1499 Bubonic Plague London (UK) 1507* "Fever" UK (lasted from 1507 - 1550) 1551 Influenza UK 1555 Famine UK (rains bought famine and weakness) 1556* Bubonic Plague UK (this was an extreme event and lasted until 1563) 1578 Bubonic Plague UK 1586 Bubonic Plague Chesterfield UK (all Harvests failed) 1591 Acute Distress UK (as a result of above) 1593 Bubonic Plague UK 1596* Famine UK (harvests failed and epidemics began) 1603 Bubonic Plague UK 1612 Bubonic Plague UK 1617* Smallpox US (amongst the Native Indians) 1623 Bad Harvest UK (lasted 2 years) 1625* Bubonic Plague UK 1630 Plague at worst UK (many thousands died) 1631 Bubonic Plague UK 1633 Smallpox US (Native Indians) 1636* Bubonic Plague UK 1647 Yellow Fever West Indies 1648 Smallpox US 1648 Whooping Cough US 1654 Bubonic Plague UK 1657 Measles Boston, US 1662 Smallpox New York, US 1665* Bubonic Plague UK (extreme) 1668 Yellow Fever New York, US 1677* Smallpox Boston, US 1687 Measles Boston, US 1690 Yellow Fever NY US 1699 Yellow Fever SC US 1702* Yellow Fever NY US 1702 Scarlet Fever Boston US 1706 Yellow Fever SC US 1713 Measles Boston US 1721 Smallpox US 1723 Influenza World wide 1723* Famine UK (lasted seven years - poor harvests and resultant epidemics) 1728 Yellow Fever SC US 1729 Measles Boston US 1732 Yellow Fever SC US 1732 Influenza SC US 1735* Diphtheria US 1735* Scarlet Fever New England US (4 years) 1738 Smallpox Carolina US 1739* Measles Boston US 1743* Yellow Fever NY US 1747 Measles CT, NY, PA, SC, US 1759 Measles North America 1761 Influenza US and West Indies 1763* Smallpox Boston, US 1772 Measles US 1775* Influenza World Wide 1783 Bilious Disorder US ( this was fatal and thought to be similar to Dysentery) 1788 Measles PA, NY, US 1789 Influenza US 1792* Yellow Fever US (lasted 7 years) 1793 Unknown Fever PA, US 1793 Influenza Vermont, Virginia, US 1802 Smallpox Nebraska, US 1803 Yellow Fever NY US 1820* Fever US 1826* Cholera World Wide (this lasted until 1837) 1826* Dengue Fever US and West Indies 1829* Malaria US 1831* Cholera UK ( began world wide in 1826) 1831* Cholera US 1832 Influenza US 1833 Cholera Ohio US 1834 Cholera NY US 1837 Typhus PA US 1837 Smallpox US (Native Indians) 1841 Yellow Fever NO US 1847 Measles US (Native Indians) 1847 Yellow Fever NO US 1848* Cholera World Wide 1850 Yellow Fever US 1850* Dengue Fever US 1851 Cholera IL US 1852 Yellow Fever NO US 1853 Cholera UK (began in Birmingham) 1855 Yellow Fever US 1857* Influenza World Wide 1860 Smallpox Pennsylvania US 1861 Epidemics US (Civil War - numerous infectious diseases) 1865 Smallpox US 1865 Cholera US 1865 Typhus US 1868* Smallpox US ( lasted 7 years) 1873 Cholera US 1878 Yellow Fever FL US 1885 Typhoid PA US 1886 Yellow Fever FL US 1889* Influenza World Wide 1893 Polio US (first known outbreak) 1900* Plague US 1901* Smallpox US 1907* Polio US (lasted 9 years) 1917 Spanish Influenza World Wide (worst ever outbreak) 1931 Polio US 1942* Polio US (lasted 11 years) 1947* Smallpox UK (lasted 2 years) 1950 Polio World Wide. 2000+ Bird Flu (especially in S.E. Asia) 2009 Swine Flu (started in Mexico >> USA > World.
Hi Listers ! Further to this information I append an answer which was sent to the Norfolk List in May 2009 - Nothing specific to Suffolk in 1835, but you may want to keep it on file ? Best Wishes ! Roger. -------------------- On 5 Nov 2010, at 11:56, Colin Fenn wrote: > David <d.bill@ntlworld.com> writes >> Can anybody tell me which epidemic was threatening Suffolk >> villages in 1835? >> Was it perhaps cholera?? I have whole families dying at the same >> time! >> Valerie Bill > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------- Some while ago, I found this somewhere on the 'net. Regards, Mike Fry, Johannesburg. Plagues, diseases and disasters throughout History Dates and locations of natural disasters throughout modern history If your ancestor died young, or lost several children, compare the date of death with this table, perhaps you may be able to deduce a likely cause of death. Remember, that would just be a logical deduction, and does not constitute a proof of event. I'll gladly add any other information you let me know about. Data kindly submitted by Jeanagh Punter From To Ailment Location Notes 1348 1350 Bubonic Plague UK & World Wide Further outbreaks occurred during most of the 14th & 15th centuries. 1499 Bubonic Plague London UK 1507 1550 "Fever" UK 1551 Influenza UK 1555 Famine UK Rains brought famine and weakness 1556 1563 Bubonic Plague UK This was an extreme event 1578 Bubonic Plague UK 1586 Bubonic Plague Chesterfield UK All harvests failed 1591 Acute Distress UK As a result of above 1593 Bubonic Plague UK 1596 Famine UK Harvests failed & epidemics began 1603 Bubonic Plague UK 1612 Bubonic Plague UK 1617 Smallpox USA Amongst the Native Indians 1623 1625 Bad Harvest UK 1625 Bubonic Plague UK 1630 Plague UK At worst, many thousands died 1631 Bubonic Plague UK 1633 Smallpox USA Native Indians 1633 1634 Smallpox UK 1636 Bubonic Plague UK 1647 Yellow fever West Indies 1648 Smallpox USA 1648 Whooping Cough USA 1654 Bubonic Plague UK 1657 Measles Boston USA 1662 Smallpox New York USA 1665 Bubonic Plague UK Extreme 1668 Yellow Fever New York USA 1677 Smallpox Boston USA 1687 Measles Boston USA 1690 Yellow Fever New York USA 1699 Yellow Fever South Carolina USA 1702 Yellow Fever New York USA 1702 Scarlet Fever Boston USA 1706 Yellow Fever South Carolina USA 1713 Measles Boston USA 1721 Smallpox USA 1723 Influenza Worldwide 1723 1730 Famine UK Poor harvests & resultant epidemics 1728 Yellow Fever South Caroline USA 1729 Measles Boston USA 1732 Yellow Fever South Carolina USA 1732 Influenza South Carolina USA 1732 1733 Influenza UK 1735 Diptheria USA 1735 1739 Scarlet Fever New England USA 1738 Smallpox South Carolina USA 1739 Measles Boston USA 1743 Influenza UK 1743 Yellow Fever New York USA 1747 Measles CT NY PA SC USA 1751 1753 Smallpox UK 1759 Measles North America 1761 Influenza USA & West Indies 1762 Influenza UK 1763 Smallpox Boston USA 1767 Influenza UK 1772 Measles USA 1775 1776 Influenza Worldwide 1782 Influenza UK 1783 Bilious Disorder USA This was fatal & thought to be similar to Dysentery 1785 Influenza UK 1788 Measles PA NY USA 1788 1789 Influenza UK 1789 Influenza USA 1792 1799 Yellow Fever USA 1793 Unknown Fever PA USA 1793 Diphtheria UK 1793 Influenza Vermont Virginia USA 1796 Smallpox UK 1802 Smallpox Nebraska USA 1803 Yellow Fever New York USA 1816 1819 Typhus & Smallpox UK 1820 Fever USA 1825 1826 Smallpox UK 1826 1837 Cholera World Wide 1826 Dengue Fever USA & West Indies 1829 Malaria USA 1830 Influenza & Cholera UK 1831 Cholera UK Began world wide independent 1826. Killed 31,000 in UK alone. 1831 Cholera USA 1832 Influenza USA 1833 Cholera Ohio USA 1834 Cholera New York USA 1836 1837 Influenza UK 1837 Typhus PA USA 1837 Smallpox USA Native Indians 1837 1841 Typhus UK Killed on average 16,000 people per year. 1838 1840 Measles & Whooping Cough UK Killed about 50,000 1840 Scarlet Fever UK Killed 20,000 1841 Yellow Fever NO USA 1846 1847 Typhoid UK Killed 30,000. Caused by a hot dry summer. 1846 1847 Influenza UK Killed 13,000 1847 Typhus & Influenza UK 1847 Measles USA Native Indians 1847 Yellow Fever NO USA 1848 Cholera World Wide 1849 Cholera UK in Bromsgrove 25 people died between July and October. Not limited to Bromsgrove ! 1850 Yellow Fever USA 1850 Dengue Fever USA 1851 Cholera IL USA 1852 Yellow Fever NO USA 1853 Cholera UK Began in Birmingham 1855 Cholera UK 1855 Yellow Fever USA 1857 Influenza World Wide 1857 1859 Smallpox UK Killed over 14,000 1860 Smallpox Pennsylvania USA 1861 Epidemics USA Civil War _ numerous infectious diseases 1863 Smallpox UK Killed over 20,000 1865 Smallpox USA 1865 Typhus USA 1865 Cholera UK 1865 Cholera USA 1868 1875 Smallpox USA 1870 1872 Smallpox UK Killed 44,800, 7,706 in Birmingham alone 1873 Cholera USA 1878 Yellow Fever Florida USA 1885 Typhoid PA USA 1886 Yellow Fever Florida USA 1889 Influenza World Wide 1889 1890 Influeneza UK 1889 1902 British Typhoid Boer War 1893 Polio USA First known outbreak 1900 Plague USA 1901 Smallpox UK 1901 Smallpox USA 1907 1916 Polio USA 1917 Spanish Influenza World Wide 1918 Influenza UK 1931 Polio USA 1942 1953 Polio USA 1947 1949 Smallpox UK 1950 Polio World Wide 1957 Asian Flu UK 1968 Hong Kong Flu UK
Neil, Colin Many thanks, This kind of information is very useful, Valerie Sent from my iPhone On 5 Nov 2010, at 11:56, Colin Fenn <erasmus@fenn.demon.co.uk> wrote: > David <d.bill@ntlworld.com> writes >> Can anybody tell me which epidemic was threatening Suffolk villages >> in 1835? >> Was it perhaps cholera?? I have whole families dying at the same >> time! >> Valerie Bill > > To expand on Neil's reply: I have had similar thoughts in the past > and so I have noted down epidemics when I come across them through > the ages. Also extremes of weather which might affect the crops. > I agree that what you have seen is quite possibly cholera, but it > might be something else. Here are my notes from epidemics of that > period. > > === > > 1826 - 37 World-wide waves of cholera first recorded in India, then > Russia, Europe & US > > 1831 Oct - first references to Cholera in UK. Arrived from > Asia, with 6000 deaths within a few months > > 1831 October 26 - Sunderland. One William Sproat died that day from > the disease, though nobody wanted to admit it. Merchants and > officials found plenty of reasons to rationalize away a prospective > 40 day maritime quarantine of the ports. ... > (sources: London Encyclopaedia, > & http://www.theplumber.com/plague.html ) > > 1831 Oct Cholera preparations recorded in Manningtree > (Source: Essex RO SEAX ref D/P 265/18/1 & London Encyclopaedia) > > 1831-2 Cholera hits USA, Canada, New York, New Orleans, Montreal, > Quebec > > 1832 Cholera hits Sheffield > Monument to 402 dead of "Asiatic Cholera" epidemic of 1832. > 1347 reported affected. > (Sources: Allan Jobson, Suffolk Miscellany > & http://public-art.shu.ac.uk/sheffield/unk126.html ) > > 1833-34: One of the warmest winters recorded since 1659. > January was very wet > > 1834-5 "sore throat" (possibly scarlet fever?) recorded in UK > Nfk, Gooderstone PR records a "virulent epidemic" with an average of > 10 deaths/year => 80, esp children > > 1834 A dry spell from February to June, then a very wet summer (in > London). Thick fog from 30th September to 6th October (London & > South). > > 1834-1835: Very bad winter. > Notably snowy winter in Scotland. By the third week of January, > 1835, there had been enough snow to seriously disrupt the 'Mails', > but it was not until the end of February that the greatest > quantities were reported. The bad/snowy weather lasted well into mid- > March, with depths of 8 or 9 feet being reported. > Resulted in an avalanche in Lewes, the only major avalanche recorded > in England. Caused by a large build-up of snow on the cliff slipping > onto a row of cottages called Boulder Row (now part of South St). > About 15 people were buried, and 8 of these died. The Snowdrop pub > in South St is named in memory of the event. (That pub was once my > "local" although I didn;t realise it at the time) > > 1835 A very dry summer (London & South). > > When you look back over history, you see that the recent scares > about "Bird Flu" etc. are just following in a centuries-old tradition. > > With best regards, > -- > Colin Fenn > London
David <d.bill@ntlworld.com> writes >Can anybody tell me which epidemic was threatening Suffolk villages in 1835? >Was it perhaps cholera?? I have whole families dying at the same time! >Valerie Bill To expand on Neil's reply: I have had similar thoughts in the past and so I have noted down epidemics when I come across them through the ages. Also extremes of weather which might affect the crops. I agree that what you have seen is quite possibly cholera, but it might be something else. Here are my notes from epidemics of that period. === 1826 - 37 World-wide waves of cholera first recorded in India, then Russia, Europe & US 1831 Oct - first references to Cholera in UK. Arrived from Asia, with 6000 deaths within a few months 1831 October 26 - Sunderland. One William Sproat died that day from the disease, though nobody wanted to admit it. Merchants and officials found plenty of reasons to rationalize away a prospective 40 day maritime quarantine of the ports. ... (sources: London Encyclopaedia, & http://www.theplumber.com/plague.html ) 1831 Oct Cholera preparations recorded in Manningtree (Source: Essex RO SEAX ref D/P 265/18/1 & London Encyclopaedia) 1831-2 Cholera hits USA, Canada, New York, New Orleans, Montreal, Quebec 1832 Cholera hits Sheffield Monument to 402 dead of "Asiatic Cholera" epidemic of 1832. 1347 reported affected. (Sources: Allan Jobson, Suffolk Miscellany & http://public-art.shu.ac.uk/sheffield/unk126.html ) 1833-34: One of the warmest winters recorded since 1659. January was very wet 1834-5 "sore throat" (possibly scarlet fever?) recorded in UK Nfk, Gooderstone PR records a "virulent epidemic" with an average of 10 deaths/year => 80, esp children 1834 A dry spell from February to June, then a very wet summer (in London). Thick fog from 30th September to 6th October (London & South). 1834-1835: Very bad winter. Notably snowy winter in Scotland. By the third week of January, 1835, there had been enough snow to seriously disrupt the 'Mails', but it was not until the end of February that the greatest quantities were reported. The bad/snowy weather lasted well into mid-March, with depths of 8 or 9 feet being reported. Resulted in an avalanche in Lewes, the only major avalanche recorded in England. Caused by a large build-up of snow on the cliff slipping onto a row of cottages called Boulder Row (now part of South St). About 15 people were buried, and 8 of these died. The Snowdrop pub in South St is named in memory of the event. (That pub was once my "local" although I didn;t realise it at the time) 1835 A very dry summer (London & South). When you look back over history, you see that the recent scares about "Bird Flu" etc. are just following in a centuries-old tradition. With best regards, -- Colin Fenn London
Listers Years ago I made some extracts from the Thorndon registers. Looking through them again, I question their and wondered if anyone had access to the registers could check a few marriage entries for me? 1743 Oct 2 Edmund ROSE & Elizabeth BEMMANT 1747 Sep 29 Edward ROSE & Elizabeth SHIP 1761 Oct 19 Thomas ROSE, otp, single & Elizabeth SHIP, otp, single. Witnesses : Edward ROSE & Willm STRINGER 1816 May 20 William STAGG?, of Gt Thornham, bach & Elizabeth ROSE, spin, otp. Witnesses : Elizabeth ROSE & Charles CASE? Many thanks Andy Kerridge
As an aside, folks might also be interested in the fact that the plague stayed late in Suffolk ... although cases were reported as late as 1906 at Shotley, 1910 at Freston and 1911 at HMS Ganges at Shotley Gate, Arwarton has the distinction of having a case of plague reported in 1918 (see n.a., 'Suffolk Facts', in "Suffolk Roots", Vol. 19, No. 2 (SFHS, Aug/1993), p. 130). Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Colin Fenn <erasmus@fenn.demon.co.uk> Date: Friday, November 5, 2010 5:56 am Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] Epidemics > David <d.bill@ntlworld.com> writes > >Can anybody tell me which epidemic was threatening Suffolk > villages in 1835? > >Was it perhaps cholera?? I have whole families dying at the same > time!>Valerie Bill > > <snip>
Many thanks Anitra - that is a perfect fit (and incidentally explains why Thomas named his first daughter Sarah). Thomas the father is still with them in 1841. The 1851 census must be an aberration on the part of the enumerator. Now to work out what happened to son John! Brian On 04/11/2010 17:43, Anitra Baxter wrote: > Hi > > From Halesworth parish registers > > Thomas son of Thomas and Sarah Brett was baptized 31 Jan 1797 * > suspect he was buried as an infant > Thomas son of Thomas and Sarah Brett was baptized 24 Apr 1801 and > buried 09 Aug 1801 > Thomas son of Thomas and Sarah Brett was baptized 23 Jun 1802 > > Mother's maiden name was Blandell > > Hopes this helps > > Anitra > > > >
My great uncle who was from Norfolk went to Canada via Ellis Island and America. It might be worth looking there. Marg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Evans" <brinvansea@hotmail.co.uk> To: "Suffolk List" <suffolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 8:03 AM Subject: [SFK-UK] Passenger lists > > I see that Find My Past has available passenger lists for outward > migration from 1890 onwards; can SKS tell me if there are any published > lists of sailings to Canada in 1888 or 1889 ... and if so, where? > > TIA, > > Brian in soggy > Letchworth, > the First Garden City > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >