How about Simon Finch who appears in Kersey in 1717 to have gis sons John and Symom baptised Ken
Hi Every one , Hope you all have a Good Christmas and a Happy new year .. The one I would love to bring home would be my Great Granddad GEORGE BROWN .I have his marriage certificate in 1871 September 28th He was age 28 and a widower profession Sailor if age is correct he was born 1843 . On the 1881 census his birth place was BECCLES SUFFOLK . I have been looking for him since I retired year 2000 .I know all about my Great Grandma her family her late husbands family .All came from NECTON NORFOLK . In the past I have found out about other family's .My family's tree is not so long but nice and wide ,a bit like me ..:-)) ALL THE BEST TO ALL .. Best Regards Geoff ..
Hi again How many children ? 9 in all, 7 survived to 1911 The two who died were Name: Charles Victor Knox Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1887 Baptism Date: 14 Mar 1887 Father's name: John Knox Mother's name: Mary Jane Knox Parish or Poor Law Union: Denmark Hill St Saviour Borough: Southwark Possible death (Mary Jane was born in Shropshire, perhaps she was at home?) Name: Charles Victor Knox Estimated birth year: abt 1887 Year of Registration: 1887 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at Death: 0 District: Oswestry County: Denbighshire, Shropshire Volume: 6a Page: 410 And Name: Mabel Knox Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1890 Baptism Date: 20 Dec 1890 Father's name: John Knox Mother's name: Mary Jane Knox Parish or Poor Law Union: East Dulwich St John the Evangelist Borough: Southwark Death reg Name: Mabel Knox Estimated birth year: abt 1890 Year of Registration: 1891 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death: 1 District: Camberwell County: Greater London, London, Surrey Volume: 1d Page: 554 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > WOW this is surely bringing them home for Christmas, you have just found > another ancestor we didn't know we had - Doris Margaret Kathleen dau of > John > & Mary KNOX - baptised 1903 - I am now wondering how many more there are > in > the KNOX family > > Many, many thanks for your help it is just so much appreciated, and has > our > family now thinking more about the family. > Judy > Nelson, NZ
Great Idea David, bringing them home for Christmas I am looking for John Michael Patrick Knox, born 1914, Croydon - son of John Lawrence Knox(died Battle of Cambrai, France 1917) and wife Jennie Louise (Nee Feaver) - cannot seem to find him anywhere - perhaps he was old enough to fight in the war - not sure but he seems to have gone of my radar somewhere along the line. Also a death for Muriel Kate Knox born 1896, parents Mary Jane (nee Williams) and John Knox Merry Christmas to you all, Regards Judy Nelson, NZ
Hi Bob, Found on IGI: Robert Stephenson to Sarah Sparrow 1/4/1761 Norwich Norfolk. Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I07376-0 System Origin: England-EASy Source Film Number: 1595590 Reference Number: item 4 Best wishes Loraine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Stephenson" <rstephenson3@cogeco.ca> To: <suffolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 4:20 PM Subject: [SFK-UK] Bringing Home For Christmas > Good morning everyone and to David, i also think this is a wonderful idea. > I have searched for the marriage (for many years, without success) of my > 5x g.grandparents Robert STEPHENSON and Sarah SPARROW. I have the baptism > for my 4xg.grandfather John Sparrow STEPHENSON (on my maternal side) as > June 3, 1762 at Somersham, Suffolk. I have not found anymore children born > to Robert and Sarah before this date, therefore i think the marriage could > be from abt. 1759 to 1762? I do have the burial information for Robert as: > Robert STEVENSON of the parish of Creeting St. Peter, January 27, 1797 at > Mickfield age 58. And for Sarah: wife of Robert, Late Sarah SPARROW of > Mickfield, February 22, 1785, age 58. Several years ago someone sent me > information about someone's family tree having marriage information for a > Robert STEPHENSON and Sarah SPARROW but i discounted that because it was > in Wales and they had Sarah's father's name as William. I do know his name > was John SPARROW and he died Ja! > nuary 26, 1775 at Mickfield, age 68. I have searched parish records for 31 > different villages in Suffolk for the marriage information without > success. I have been a very good boy this year and wish Santa will help me > bring home Robert and Sarah so they can have a Christmas with their > children. > > Bob > > Hamilton, Ontario, Canada > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Just to add to that - on the Charsfield parish register, the baptism entry includes the fact that Mary's maiden name was CRANE. On 21 Dec 2010, at 15:10, David Gobbitt wrote: > Hi Don > >> From http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch: > > Name: James Chinery > Baptism/Christening Date: 07 Sep 1806 > Baptism/Christening Place: Charsfield, Suffolk, England > Father's Name: Henry Chinery > Mother's Name: Mary Chinery > > Subject: [SFK-UK] Bring Home Chinnery and Lamber > To: <suffolk@rootsweb.com> > > Looking for ancestors of James Chinnery b ca 1806 and Lucy Lambert b > ca 1806 and married in 1826 in Grundisburg Suffolk children were > baptised in Otley,
Hi Don >From http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch: Name: James Chinery Baptism/Christening Date: 07 Sep 1806 Baptism/Christening Place: Charsfield, Suffolk, England Father's Name: Henry Chinery Mother's Name: Mary Chinery Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03463-4 System Origin: England-EASy Source Film Number: 1658080 Reference Number: pg 76 Charsfield is near Otley and Grundisburgh. The SBI shows that John, son of Henry & Mary CHINERY, was buried there in 1805. David Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 11:11:56 -0500 From: "Don" <myhobbies@tampabay.rr.com> Subject: [SFK-UK] Bring Home Chinnery and Lamber To: <suffolk@rootsweb.com> Looking for ancestors of James Chinnery b ca 1806 and Lucy Lambert b ca 1806 and married in 1826 in Grundisburg Suffolk children were baptised in Otley, Marriage said he was from Rushmere. Keeble might be surname in Lucy Lamberts tree. ...
Hello Loraine, i received an email from Charles Fuller yesterday with the marriage information as being January 1, 1761 at Aldham, Suffolk. This is from the Suffolk Marriage Index. When i received the information i did have intentions of possably ordering the film for the Aldham parish records but only if someone on the list did not have the records. It looks like i will have to order the records. Thankyou very much for checking the FH site. Could i also ask if anyone on the list know's if the SFHC in Ipswich is open this week. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loraine" <high-hills@ntlworld.com> To: <suffolk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] Bringing Home For Christmas > Hi Bob, > Found on IGI: > > Robert Stephenson to Sarah Sparrow 1/4/1761 Norwich Norfolk. > > Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I07376-0 > System Origin: England-EASy > Source Film Number: 1595590 > Reference Number: item 4 > > > Best wishes > Loraine > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Stephenson" <rstephenson3@cogeco.ca> > To: <suffolk@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 4:20 PM > Subject: [SFK-UK] Bringing Home For Christmas > > >> Good morning everyone and to David, i also think this is a wonderful >> idea. >> I have searched for the marriage (for many years, without success) of my >> 5x g.grandparents Robert STEPHENSON and Sarah SPARROW. I have the baptism >> for my 4xg.grandfather John Sparrow STEPHENSON (on my maternal side) as >> June 3, 1762 at Somersham, Suffolk. I have not found anymore children >> born >> to Robert and Sarah before this date, therefore i think the marriage >> could >> be from abt. 1759 to 1762? I do have the burial information for Robert >> as: >> Robert STEVENSON of the parish of Creeting St. Peter, January 27, 1797 at >> Mickfield age 58. And for Sarah: wife of Robert, Late Sarah SPARROW of >> Mickfield, February 22, 1785, age 58. Several years ago someone sent me >> information about someone's family tree having marriage information for a >> Robert STEPHENSON and Sarah SPARROW but i discounted that because it was >> in Wales and they had Sarah's father's name as William. I do know his >> name >> was John SPARROW and he died Ja! >> nuary 26, 1775 at Mickfield, age 68. I have searched parish records for >> 31 >> different villages in Suffolk for the marriage information without >> success. I have been a very good boy this year and wish Santa will help >> me >> bring home Robert and Sarah so they can have a Christmas with their >> children. >> >> Bob >> >> Hamilton, Ontario, Canada >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3329 - Release Date: 12/21/10 >
Great idea! Hoping he will come out of hiding at last - HENRY BUTCHER - born ca 1750 (married 1774 Ilketshall St Margarets) - has been evading capture for over 25 years!! Hope you all have a great Christmas and make it to wherever you want to be:-) Rosie Frost ------------------------------
Hi Judy Official adoption started in 1927 and they may have gone through the process but more likely they simply changed his name and for the rest of his life he was THOMPSON He may never have actually known he was born a KNOX (although he probably did) The only thing that may cause a problem later on was inheritance, although if it were written into a will it would be entirely legal , the problem might have occurred if Herbert died intestate There is a possible marriage for John as follows Name: John M P Thompson Spouse Surname: Dixon Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1939 Registration district: Lewisham Registration county (inferred): Kent Volume Number: 1d Page Number: 2409 Name: Molly W H N Dixon Spouse Surname: Thompson Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1939 Registration district: Lewisham Registration county (inferred): Kent Volume Number: 1d Page Number: 2409 Personally after proving that the John I posted who died in 1985 was your man I would be seeking a will for him, if Molly survived him she may well be mentioned and of course any children they may have had The death cert of 1985 should also have his place of birth as well as his date of birth , his birth cert would hopefully confirm they are one and the same On Muriel Baptism St Peter Streatham Lambeth 1896 Dec 14 1896 Muriel Kate dau of John & Mary KNOX 23 Leigham Vale Bank Clerk Minister Edward JER??? There is a P by the baptism which normally stands for a private baptism, this may hint that she was a sickly child not expected to live There is also a baptism at the same Church Nov 16th 1903 Doris Margaret Kathleen dau of John & Mary KNOX 66 Knollys Road Streatham Bank Clerk Henry DUNSBY (St Clements City Rd) There are some other children baptised in the period to a John and Mary Jane KNOX the fathers occupation is Bank Clerk All the above are to be found on Ancestry Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Nivard > > I didn't think of Jennie remarrying, and you are probably correct that her > son might have had a name change, even at the age of 8yrs old - would > there > be records somewhere for that - I'm a bit lost to where to go for those > sort > of searches. I only had John MP Knox down as being born 1914, Croydon, > his > Mother remarrying certainly puts a different aspect on his surname. Thanks > for his death details will have to see if he married under the name > Thompson > or Knox. > > Many thanks also for Muriel Kate Knox's death - our indexes here are > quite > a few years behind - have her birth as 1896 (didn't have a birth date just > the quarter Sept and year), Streatham, Surrey. > > Have a lovely Christmas > Judy > Nelson, NZ
Hi Judy It looks like Jennie may have remarried in 1922 Name: Jennie L Knox Spouse Surname: Thompson Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1922 Registration district: Camberwell Registration county (inferred): Surrey Volume Number: 1d Page Number: 1926 Name: Herbert L Thompson Spouse Surname: Knox Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1922 Registration district: Camberwell Registration county (inferred): Surrey Volume Number: 1d Page Number: 1926 If so have you considered that John MP KNOX may have gone as THOMPSON (he would only be 8 at the time of their marriage) There is the following death registration Name: John Michael P Thompson Birth Date: 1 Mar 1914 Death Registration Month/Year: Jan 1985 Age at death (estimated): 70 Registration district: Bromley Inferred County: Kent Volume: 11 Page: 1295 There is also a death reg for a Muriel Kate KNOX as follows Name: Muriel Kate Knox Birth Date: 17 Jun 1896 Death Registration Month/Year: 1969 Registration district: Lambeth Inferred County: Greater London Volume: 5d Page: 28 Do the dates of birth tally with your known information? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Great Idea David, bringing them home for Christmas > > I am looking for John Michael Patrick Knox, born 1914, Croydon - son of > John Lawrence Knox(died Battle of Cambrai, France 1917) and wife Jennie > Louise (Nee Feaver) - cannot seem to find him anywhere - perhaps he was > old enough to fight in the war - not sure but he seems to have gone of my > radar somewhere along the line. > > Also a death for Muriel Kate Knox born 1896, parents Mary Jane (nee > Williams) and John Knox > > Merry Christmas to you all, > > Regards > Judy > Nelson, NZ
Charles, Thank you but I need to find the Marriage Reg. in order to 'confirm' who the parents of 'my' James Cooper are. But I will try to follow the James b 1810 line with James and Elizabeth as parents to keep on hand. Have a good Christmas and Healthy New Year. Gail, Canada -----Original Message----- From: suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:suffolk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Charles Fuller Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 9:46 AM To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] Bringing home for Christmas James COOPER, Kerenhappuch Amelia HAYWARD Hello, There is one set of registers which would be worth checking next - Needham Market Independent/Congregational church. This church opened in 1793 (I think), and it was extremely popular. Note that the "proper" registers are held at Ipswich Record Office, cover the period 1795-1837 with some later entries, and have not been filmed or transcribed by anyone yet. The records on the IGI and on the "PRO" film come from a copy register which is a fraction of the size of the ones held at Ipswich. Since there was at least one burial at the church for the surname of COOPER, this seems to be of interest. Unfortunately for you, I wasn't searching for the surname of Cooper when I went through the registers (I found 61 entries for 9 surnames, some of which are very rare). Have you traced this person, to see whether he is relevant? - Barking St. Mary baptism 21st. October 1810 James COOPER son of James and Elizabeth. Regards, Charles Fuller. On 20/12/2010 14:37, Gail Petrov wrote: > David, > A wonderful idea. > > My brickwall has been my direct COOPER line. My 2x grt grandfather James > COOPER was born Barking, Suffolk. Birth years range from 1809 to 1822 based > on 1861 [b 1813] and 1871 [b 1817] England Censuses, 1881 [b 1811]& 1891 [b > 1816] Canada Censuses, ship record of 1872 [b 1822] , and Manitoba, Canada > death obit of 1893 [b 1809]. Married?? Kerenhappuch Amelia HAYWARD b 1834 > Claydon, Suffolk, d 1875 Ontario, Canada. Have had success in tracing > Kerehnappuch's parents, etc. > > 1861 England Census, they were in Plymstock, Devon, England with children. > RG 9, piece 1428, folio 12, pg 17, GSU 542811. > 1871 England Census, they were in St. Stephen by Saltash, Burraton, > Cornwall, England with children. RG10, piece 2232, folio 74, pg 25, GSU > 834872. > > Have not been able to find James COOPER in earlier censuses, etc. Have not > been able to find marriage record. Rumor was - he was in Australia looking > for gold prior to getting married. > > Kerenhappuch Amelia Hayward is found in 1841, 1851 England Censuses. In > 1841 she is with grandmother Catherine Cundy in Brent Eleigh, Suffolk as > Kerenhappuch Hayward. In 1851 she is with aunt Susannah Hayward and > cousins in Lambeth, Surrey as Amelia Hayward. > > There is a James Cooper b 1818, chr 1820 Barking, Suffolk, mar. to Elizabeth > Saunders. Parents are Samuel and Sarah Cooper. He is not "my" James > Cooper. > > Have gone thru BMD M regs. with no success. > Any one out there with ideas?? > Have a great Christmas. > > Gail, > Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thank you for trying John - I strongly suspect the Benhall Rous family are connected to those at Westleton, a big hint came with a double marriage at Benhall in 1809 between two Thomas Rouses, one of whom I 'know' already from Westleton, both brides also bore the name Rous, so possibly the brides could be connected to Thomas and Ann Gooch - the big problem is trying to find out just how they are connected......... Thanks again, Sue. On 20 December 2010 16:11, John Rose <johnrose48sp@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi Sue > > There is a Thomas (widower) marriage to Ann GOOCH in Benhall 6 May 1758. > > Is this any good? > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Sue B <sue_biddle@ntlworld.com> wrote: > > > A terrific idea - and would love to hear from anyone who gets a result. > > > > My brickwall is the marriage of Thomas Rous(e) and Hannah about 1750. > They > > had children baptised in Theberton and Westleton and Thomas came from an > > established Westleton family, at least it looks that way. I know nothing > of > > Hannah (named Anna at the baptism of one of their children and in the > will > > of her husband Thomas) so obviously cannot research her family. > > Should anyone know where Thomas married Hannah, or be researching the > same > > family I'd love to hear from them > > > > Season's Greetings > > > > Sue . > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Hi Sue There is a Thomas (widower) marriage to Ann GOOCH in Benhall 6 May 1758. Is this any good? John On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Sue B <sue_biddle@ntlworld.com> wrote: > A terrific idea - and would love to hear from anyone who gets a result. > > My brickwall is the marriage of Thomas Rous(e) and Hannah about 1750. They > had children baptised in Theberton and Westleton and Thomas came from an > established Westleton family, at least it looks that way. I know nothing of > Hannah (named Anna at the baptism of one of their children and in the will > of her husband Thomas) so obviously cannot research her family. > Should anyone know where Thomas married Hannah, or be researching the same > family I'd love to hear from them > > Season's Greetings > > Sue . > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Hello, There is one set of registers which would be worth checking next - Needham Market Independent/Congregational church. This church opened in 1793 (I think), and it was extremely popular. Note that the "proper" registers are held at Ipswich Record Office, cover the period 1795-1837 with some later entries, and have not been filmed or transcribed by anyone yet. The records on the IGI and on the "PRO" film come from a copy register which is a fraction of the size of the ones held at Ipswich. Since there was at least one burial at the church for the surname of COOPER, this seems to be of interest. Unfortunately for you, I wasn't searching for the surname of Cooper when I went through the registers (I found 61 entries for 9 surnames, some of which are very rare). Have you traced this person, to see whether he is relevant? - Barking St. Mary baptism 21st. October 1810 James COOPER son of James and Elizabeth. Regards, Charles Fuller. On 20/12/2010 14:37, Gail Petrov wrote: > David, > A wonderful idea. > > My brickwall has been my direct COOPER line. My 2x grt grandfather James > COOPER was born Barking, Suffolk. Birth years range from 1809 to 1822 based > on 1861 [b 1813] and 1871 [b 1817] England Censuses, 1881 [b 1811]& 1891 [b > 1816] Canada Censuses, ship record of 1872 [b 1822] , and Manitoba, Canada > death obit of 1893 [b 1809]. Married?? Kerenhappuch Amelia HAYWARD b 1834 > Claydon, Suffolk, d 1875 Ontario, Canada. Have had success in tracing > Kerehnappuch's parents, etc. > > 1861 England Census, they were in Plymstock, Devon, England with children. > RG 9, piece 1428, folio 12, pg 17, GSU 542811. > 1871 England Census, they were in St. Stephen by Saltash, Burraton, > Cornwall, England with children. RG10, piece 2232, folio 74, pg 25, GSU > 834872. > > Have not been able to find James COOPER in earlier censuses, etc. Have not > been able to find marriage record. Rumor was - he was in Australia looking > for gold prior to getting married. > > Kerenhappuch Amelia Hayward is found in 1841, 1851 England Censuses. In > 1841 she is with grandmother Catherine Cundy in Brent Eleigh, Suffolk as > Kerenhappuch Hayward. In 1851 she is with aunt Susannah Hayward and > cousins in Lambeth, Surrey as Amelia Hayward. > > There is a James Cooper b 1818, chr 1820 Barking, Suffolk, mar. to Elizabeth > Saunders. Parents are Samuel and Sarah Cooper. He is not "my" James > Cooper. > > Have gone thru BMD M regs. with no success. > Any one out there with ideas?? > Have a great Christmas. > > Gail, > Canada
OK, come home John Dolby Diaper b. Stowupland c.1824, d. Stowupland 1889. His father, he said, was John Page and he may have had a brother Jacob. Who was John Page? Who was Dolby? We presume his mother was a Diaper but the 1841 census was just too late to tell, and no sign in the parish records. Dudley in Wivenhoe, Essex, also -2c -------------------------------------------------- From: "David Vesey" <veseybrown@sympatico.ca> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 1:34 PM To: <suffolk-l@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SFK-UK] Bringing home for Christmas > Just a idea for Christmas week: > The Kent List is running "Bring an ancestor home for Christmas" where > instead of posting a greeting you > post a brick wall and ask for help bringing them home for Christmas. This > keeps it all relevant. > > Think we could try ? > > David in balmy -2C Toronto > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
A terrific idea - and would love to hear from anyone who gets a result. My brickwall is the marriage of Thomas Rous(e) and Hannah about 1750. They had children baptised in Theberton and Westleton and Thomas came from an established Westleton family, at least it looks that way. I know nothing of Hannah (named Anna at the baptism of one of their children and in the will of her husband Thomas) so obviously cannot research her family. Should anyone know where Thomas married Hannah, or be researching the same family I'd love to hear from them Season's Greetings Sue .
Again, and after thought. Is there anyone who has the parish records for Aldham and Holton who would do a lookup. Bob
I must say, Robert and Sarah STEPHENSON will be having Christmas with their children this year. I received an email from Charles FULLER with the marriage information i was looking for April 1, 1761. My sincere thankyou's to Charles for taking the time to look for the marriage. Merry Christmas Charles and to everyone on the list may you all have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Bob Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
As an afterthought. I have the parish records on fiche for Burstall, Creeting St. Mary, Debenham, Little and Great Blakenham, Offton and Somersham. I will do lookup's for Christmas if anyone needs help. Bob