I would say not myself Where it states single, widowed etc, which is far from all registers in my experience, I would expect it to be as stated by that party (which is not necessarily the truth of course) It could be a mistake on the part of the scribe, registers were often written up later from notes Are there other entries in the same register stating widow or widower? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 03-Dec-17 10:54 AM, Brian Sillett wrote: > I have numerous examples where a second marriage record describes the groom as single. > > The example in front of me is in 1693 in Ipswich. Can I assume it was commonplace then for a widower to describe himself as single? > > Brian Sillett

I have numerous examples where a second marriage record describes the groom as single. The example in front of me is in 1693 in Ipswich. Can I assume it was commonplace then for a widower to describe himself as single? Brian Sillett

THAT WAS FAST Geoffrey and John Thank you so much Regards Judith From: GW5438@aol.com Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 10:40 AM To: judelarsen@xtra.co.nz Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] National Burial Index Here (attached) are the Elmswell entries. Geoffrey Woollard. In a message dated 01/12/2017 20:32:42 GMT Standard Time, judelarsen@xtra.co.nz writes: Hi List Wonder if anyone has the above? Am looking for all the entries for Elmswell (earliest) for the surname SOUTHGATE Many Thanks Judith ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List Wonder if anyone has the above? Am looking for all the entries for Elmswell (earliest) for the surname SOUTHGATE Many Thanks Judith

Hi List Wonder if anyone has the earliest Burials for Elmswell, Suffolk. Looking for all entries for SOUTHGATE TIA Regards Judith (New Zealand)

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[1]ancestry This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MaureenEdna Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board: [2]Click here Message Board Post: Hello Helen, Wonder if you have this information ? Birth March Quarter 1858 Stow, Suffolk, England Isaac Banham--Ref Vol 4a Page 490 1861 Census Birds Green Rattlesden Stow Suffolk England John Banham Head age 37 b.1824 Rattlesden. Agricul Lab Kezia nanham Wife age 37 b.1824 Rattlesden John Banham Son age 13 b.1848 Rattlesden Henrietta Banham Gaighter age 11 b.1850 Rattlesden Jacob Banham Son age 9 b.1852 Rattlesden James Banham Son age 5 b.1856 Rattlesden *Isaac Banham Son age 3 b.1858 Rattlesden* Abraham Banham Son age 1 b.1860 Rattlesden Marriage Dec Quarter 1879 Bury St Edmund, Suffolk, England Isaac Banham & Elizabeth Howe--Ref Vol 4a Page 1065 1881 Census 1 Crown Lane Ixworth Thingoe Suffolk England Isaac Banham Head age 33 b.1858 Suffolk. Agricul Lab Elizabeth Banham Wife age 21 b.1860 Ixworth Nelly Elizabeth Banham Daughter age 2 b.1879 Ixworth Charles William Banham Son age 1 b.1880 Ixworth 1891 Census Stow lane Ixworth Thingoe Suffolk England Isaac Banham Head age 33 b.1858 Suffolk. Agricul Lab Elizabeth Banham Wife age 32 b.1859 Suffolk Nelley Eth Banham Daughter age 12 b.1879 Suffolk Charles William Banham Son age 11 b.1880 Suffolk Lilly Louisa Banham Daughter age 9 b.1882 Suffolk Ethel Anne Banham Daughter age 7 b.1884 Suffolk Alice Agnes Banham Daughter age 5 b.1886 Ixworth Mabel May Banham Daughter age 3 b.1888 Suffolk John Percey Banham Son age 3 b.1888 Suffolk 1901 Cencus Isaac Banham Head age 43 b.1858 Rattlesden. Road Surveyor Foreman. Elizabeth Banham Wife age 42 b. Ixworth Mabel Banham Daughter age 13 b.1888 Ixworth John Banham Son age 12 b.1889 Ixworth Sidney Banham Son age 9 b.1892 Ixworth Edward Banham Son age 7 b.1894 Ixworth William Banham Son age 5 b.1896 Great Barton. Maud Banham Daughter age 2 b.1899 Great Barton Hilda Banham Daughter age 0 b.1901 Great Barton 1911 Census Great Barton Ixworth Bury St Edmunds Suffolk England Isaac Banham Head age 53 b.1858 Rattlesden. Agricul Labourer Elizabeth Banham Wife age 52 b.1859 Ixworth Edward Banham Son age 17 b.1894 Agricul Lab William Banham Son age 15 b.1896 Gret Barton. Agricul Lab Maud Banham Daughter age 12 b.1899 Gt Barton Hilda Banham Daughter age 10 b.1901 Gt Barton Tomas Banham Son age 8 b.1903 Gt Barton Elsie Banham Son age 6 b.1905 Gt Barton *Harry Banham Son age 5 b.1906 Gt Barton* Hope this helps Regard Maureen Liverpool.UK Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. [3]Contact Us [4]Online Help Please add [5]notifications@ancestry.com to your address book to make sure you don't miss an email. 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Hi Gordon I have one GROOM… George GROOM who married my Rosa VESEY Marriages Sep Q 1845 Groom George Ipswich 12 541 VESEY Rosa Ipswich 12 541 George died Ipswich. Burial: Church of St. Michael, Framlingham: Groom, George, d 17 Feb 1847, age 46 yrs Would love to know more about George’s family and his death. Kind regards Linda Sokalofsky B.C. Canada

[1]ancestry This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Bob_Waun Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board: [2]Click here Message Board Post: Hi Gordon, This is some of the information I compiled on the Grooms, Herrings and Mayhews. They emigrated from Kettleburgh to Canada in 1836. 1. MARK1 GROOM was born 1795 in England. He married LYDIA WADE. She was born 1798 in England. Children of MARK GROOM and LYDIA WADE are: i. MARY ANNE2 GROOM, b. 1820, Kettleburgh, Suffolk Co., England. ii. GEORGE GROOM, b. 1822, England. iii. JAMES GROOM, b. 1824, Kettleburgh, Suffolk Co., England. iv. ELLEN GROOM, b. 1826, Kettleburgh, Suffolk Co., England. v. ROBERT GROOM, b. 1829, England. vi. SARAH GROOM, b. 1831, Kettleburgh, Suffolk Co., England. vii. MARK GROOM, b. 1833, Kettleburgh, Suffolk Co., England. viii. EMMA GROOM, b. 1835, Kettleburgh, Suffolk Co., England. ix. WILLIAM GROOM, b. 1839, Canada. x. STEPHEN GROOM, b. 1841, Canada. 1851 Canadian Census Bury Twp., Compton Co., Quebec Enumerated: - 1 story log house, 1 family occupying - p. 12d, 13a, (25) Mark Groom - occ. - farmer, place of birth - England, religion - Church of England, age - 55, male, married Lydia - place of birth - England, religion - Church of England, age - 53, female, married Mark - place of birth - England, religion - Church of England, age - 18, male, single Emma - place of birth - England, religion - Church of England, age - 16, female, single, attending school William - place of birth - Canada, religion - Church of England, age - 12, male, single, attending school Stephen - place of birth - Canada, religion - Church of England, age - 10, male, single, attending school -- 1. JOHN1 HERRING was born June 21, 1792 in England, and died October 21, 1862 in Quebec. He married MARY JAMES. She was born 1799 in England, and died February 01, 1868 in Quebec. Children of JOHN HERRING and MARY JAMES are: i. ELIZA2 HERRING, b. 1818, England. ii. WILLIAM HERRING, b. 1822, England. iii. JOHN HERRING, b. 1824, Kettleburgh, Suffolk Co., England. iv. GEORGE HERRING, b. 1826, Kettleburgh, Suffolk Co., England. v. MARY ANNE HERRING, b. 1828, Kettleburgh, Suffolk Co., England. vi. MARIA HERRING, b. 1829, Kettleburgh, Suffolk Co., England. vii. CHARLOTTE HERRING, b. 1830, England. viii. ROBERT HERRING, b. 1832, England. ix. CHARLES HERRING, b. 1834, Kettleburgh, Suffolk Co., England. x. LOUISA HERRING, b. 1839, Canada. xi. ELECTEAN HERRING, b. 1841, Canada. 1851 Canadian Census Bury Twp., Compton Co., Quebec Enumerated: - 1 log house, 2 families occupying - p. 12d, 13a, (25) John Herron - occ. - farmer, place of birth - England, religion - Church of England, age - 56, male, married Mary - place of birth - England, religion - Church of England, age - 55, female, married Louisa - place of birth - Canada, religion - Church of England, age - 12, female, single, attending school Electean- place of birth - Canada, religion - Church of England, age - 10, female, single, attending school William Herron - occ. - farmer, place of birth - England, religion - Church of England, age - 30, male, married Electeann - place of birth - United States, religion - Church of England, age - 29, female, married John F. - place of birth - Canada, religion - Church of England, age - 10, male, single, attending school George D. - place of birth - Canada, religion - Church of England, age - 7, male, single, attending school Frederick W. - place of birth - Canada, religion - Church of England, age - 5, male, single Henry A. - place of birth - Canada, religion - Church of England, age - 2, male, single -- 1. ALFRED L.1 MAYHEW was born June 09, 1801 in Westhall, Suffolk Co., England, and died June 04, 1862 in Bury, Compton Co., Quebec. He married MARY COOK April 08, 1822 in Beccles, Suffolk Co., England. She was born Bef. 1805 in Beccles, Suffolk Co., England. Children of ALFRED MAYHEW and MARY COOK are: i. HENRY2 MAYHEW, b. 1823, Spexhall, Suffolk Co., England. ii. MARIA MAYHEW, b. 1825, Kettleburgh, Suffolk Co., England; d. May 25, 1894. iii. GEORGE MAYHEW, b. 1827, Halesworth, Suffolk Co., England. iv. MARY ANN MAYHEW, b. 1829, Kettleburgh, Suffolk Co., England; d. 1916. v. PHOEBE MAYHEW, b. 1832, Kettleburgh, Suffolk Co., England. vi. ROBERT MAYHEW, b. 1834, Kettleburgh, Suffolk Co., England. vii. ALFRED MAYHEW, b. April 1836, Kettleburgh, Suffolk Co., England. viii. WILLIAM MAYHEW, b. December 07, 1837, Compton Co., Quebec. ix. BETSY MAYHEW, b. December 23, 1839, Compton Co., Quebec. x. JAMES MAYHEW, b. February 28, 1841, Bury, Compton Co., Quebec. xi. ADELINE MAYHEW, b. March 18, 1844, Compton Co., Quebec. xii. EBENEZER MAYHEW, b. 1846, Compton Co., Quebec. 1851 Canadian Census Bury Twp., Compton Co., Quebec Enumerated: - 1 story log house, 2 families occupying Alfred Mayhew - occ. - farmer, place of birth - England, religion - Church of England, age - 49, male, married Mary - place of birth - England, religion - Church of England, age - 50, female, married Alfred - place of birth - England, religion - Church of England, age - 16, male, single William - place of birth - Canada, religion - Church of England, age - 15, male, single Betsy - place of birth - Canada, religion - Church of England, age - 13, female, single James - place of birth - Canada, religion - Church of England, age - 11, male, single Adeline - place of birth - Canada, religion - Church of England, age - 9, female, single Ebenezer - place of birth - Canada, religion - Church of England, age - 6, male, single Tyler Coates - occ. - farmer, place of birth - Canada, religion - Methodist, age - 24, male, married Mary A. 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[1]ancestry This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Gordp88 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board: [2]Click here Message Board Post: Hi Bob I am from the Mayhew family that settled in Canterbury and am interested to learn that the Herrings and Grooms were also from the village of Kettleburgh where the Mayhews came from. Grateful for what you have on the Grooms and Herrings ( I grew up a few miles away from the Herrings). Best Gordon Parsons (my mother is Doris Mayhew) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. [3]Contact Us [4]Online Help Please add [5]notifications@ancestry.com to your address book to make sure you don't miss an email. You are receiving this email because you have registered with Ancestry using the email address [6]SUFFOLK-L@rootsweb.com. Your privacy is important to us. View our [7]Privacy Statement for more information. Use of [8]Ancestry.com is subject to our [9]Terms and Conditions. © 2017 [10]ANCESTRY.COM [11]Ancestry.com Operations Inc. 1300 W Traverse Parkway, Lehi, UT 84043, USA References 1. https://sm.ancestry.com/track?type=click&enid=ZWFzPTImYW1wO21zaWQ9MSZhbXA7YXVpZD0mYW1wO21haWxpbmdpZD0xMDUxMDAxJmFtcDttZXNzYWdlaWQ9NTU4MDEmYW1wO2RhdGFiYXNlaWQ9MTQyNzMxODM3NyZhbXA7c2VyaWFsPTMzNTczMjU1JmFtcDtlbWFpbGlkPVNVRkZPTEstTEByb290c3dlYi5jb20mYW1wO3VzZXJpZD1TVUZGT0xLLUxAcm9vdHN3ZWIuY29tJmFtcDt0YXJnZXRpZD0mYW1wO21uPSZhbXA7Zmw9JmFtcDttdmlkPSZhbXA7ZXh0cmE9JmFtcDsmYW1wOyZhbXA7&&&105701&&&http://www.ancestry.com/s0/t18310/rd.ashx 2. https://sm.ancestry.com/track?type=click&enid=ZWFzPTImYW1wO21zaWQ9MSZhbXA7YXVpZD0mYW1wO21haWxpbmdpZD0xMDUxMDAxJmFtcDttZXNzYWdlaWQ9NTU4MDEmYW1wO2RhdGFiYXNlaWQ9MTQyNzMxODM3NyZhbXA7c2VyaWFsPTMzNTczMjU1JmFtcDtlbWFpbGlkPVNVRkZPTEstTEByb290c3dlYi5jb20mYW1wO3VzZXJpZD1TVUZGT0xLLUxAcm9vdHN3ZWIuY29tJmFtcDt0YXJnZXRpZD0mYW1wO21uPSZhbXA7Zmw9JmFtcDttdmlkPSZhbXA7ZXh0cmE9JmFtcDsmYW1wOyZhbXA7&&&275805&&&http://www.ancestry.com/s0/KEY/rd.ashx?key=Uhttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8159.1.1/mb.ashx 3. https://sm.ancestry.com/track?type=click&enid=ZWFzPTImYW1wO21zaWQ9MSZhbXA7YXVpZD0mYW1wO21haWxpbmdpZD0xMDUxMDAxJmFtcDttZXNzYWdlaWQ9NTU4MDEmYW1wO2RhdGFiYXNlaWQ9MTQyNzMxODM3NyZhbXA7c2VyaWFsPTMzNTczMjU1JmFtcDtlbWFpbGlkPVNVRkZPTEstTEByb290c3dlYi5jb20mYW1wO3VzZXJpZD1TVUZGT0xLLUxAcm9vdHN3ZWIuY29tJmFtcDt0YXJnZXRpZD0mYW1wO21uPSZhbXA7Zmw9JmFtcDttdmlkPSZhbXA7ZXh0cmE9JmFtcDsmYW1wOyZhbXA7&&&547158&&&http://www.ancestry.com/s0/t6713/rd.ashx 4. https://sm.ancestry.com/track?type=click&enid=ZWFzPTImYW1wO21zaWQ9MSZhbXA7YXVpZD0mYW1wO21haWxpbmdpZD0xMDUxMDAxJmFtcDttZXNzYWdlaWQ9NTU4MDEmYW1wO2RhdGFiYXNlaWQ9MTQyNzMxODM3NyZhbXA7c2VyaWFsPTMzNTczMjU1JmFtcDtlbWFpbGlkPVNVRkZPTEstTEByb290c3dlYi5jb20mYW1wO3VzZXJpZD1TVUZGT0xLLUxAcm9vdHN3ZWIuY29tJmFtcDt0YXJnZXRpZD0mYW1wO21uPSZhbXA7Zmw9JmFtcDttdmlkPSZhbXA7ZXh0cmE9JmFtcDsmYW1wOyZhbXA7&&&547159&&&http://www.ancestry.com/s0/t6028/rd.ashx 5. file://localhost/tmp/tmp5JwX2l.html 6. file://localhost/tmp/tmp5JwX2l.html 7. https://sm.ancestry.com/track?type=click&enid=ZWFzPTImYW1wO21zaWQ9MSZhbXA7YXVpZD0mYW1wO21haWxpbmdpZD0xMDUxMDAxJmFtcDttZXNzYWdlaWQ9NTU4MDEmYW1wO2RhdGFiYXNlaWQ9MTQyNzMxODM3NyZhbXA7c2VyaWFsPTMzNTczMjU1JmFtcDtlbWFpbGlkPVNVRkZPTEstTEByb290c3dlYi5jb20mYW1wO3VzZXJpZD1TVUZGT0xLLUxAcm9vdHN3ZWIuY29tJmFtcDt0YXJnZXRpZD0mYW1wO21uPSZhbXA7Zmw9JmFtcDttdmlkPSZhbXA7ZXh0cmE9JmFtcDsmYW1wOyZhbXA7&&&547160&&&http://www.ancestry.com/s0/t20855/rd.ashx 8. file://localhost/tmp/tmp5JwX2l.html 9. https://sm.ancestry.com/track?type=click&enid=ZWFzPTImYW1wO21zaWQ9MSZhbXA7YXVpZD0mYW1wO21haWxpbmdpZD0xMDUxMDAxJmFtcDttZXNzYWdlaWQ9NTU4MDEmYW1wO2RhdGFiYXNlaWQ9MTQyNzMxODM3NyZhbXA7c2VyaWFsPTMzNTczMjU1JmFtcDtlbWFpbGlkPVNVRkZPTEstTEByb290c3dlYi5jb20mYW1wO3VzZXJpZD1TVUZGT0xLLUxAcm9vdHN3ZWIuY29tJmFtcDt0YXJnZXRpZD0mYW1wO21uPSZhbXA7Zmw9JmFtcDttdmlkPSZhbXA7ZXh0cmE9JmFtcDsmYW1wOyZhbXA7&&&547161&&&http://www.ancestry.com/s0/t26859/rd.ashx 10. file://localhost/tmp/tmp5JwX2l.html 11. file://localhost/tmp/tmp5JwX2l.html

Hello Geoffrey, listers, Just one of many sad stories, too many to mention. 'Great' war only in its degree of magnitude, otherwise another terrible example of man's inhumanity to man. The Catchpoles of Suffolk, interesting people, but cannot add further to your account, although I sense you did not expect this - Remembrance day related. I was only to become aware of that name after a friend lent me the book 'The History of Margaret Catchpole', penned by a Suffolk Victorian vicar and author, Richard Cobbold. A fascinating saga part based on fact, but some narrative imaginatively enhanced to ensure its maximised appeal whilst Cobbold occasionally straying from the actual circumstances. For those who still like to read, give it whirl here http://www.gutenberg.org/files/39326/39326-h/39326-h.htm Michael in next county Essex, UK ----- Original Message ----- From: GW5438@aol.com To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 08:11:16 -0000 (UTC) A fascinating trale Subject: [SFK-UK] Captain Thomas John (Tom) Catchpole Friday the 3rd of November, 2017, was the 100th anniversary of the death of my wife Sue’s great uncle, Captain Thomas John (Tom) Catchpole. He was born at Lidgate Hall (Suffolk) on the 24th of August 1888, the seventh child and second son of farmer Arthur Robert Catchpole (1856 – 1935) and his wife, Catherine Mary (née Pearl) (1852 –1935), and was baptised at St. Mary’s Church, Lidgate, on the 19th of October following. Tom, who was educated at Framlingham College and won prizes there, was destined to farm, too, but at the outbreak of the so-called ‘Great War’ he was called up to join H Company of the 5th (Territorial) Battalion of the Suffolk Regiment. He was soon promoted to the rank of captain and was sent to the Middle East. It was there that he met his end fighting the Ottoman Turks. In the latter part of the third Battle of Gaza and in hand-to-hand fighting, a Turkish soldier thrust a pickaxe through Tom’s body and the terrible injury left him writhing in agony. Tom’s younger brother, Stanley Ernest (Stan) Catchpole (1890 – 1959), was also present. Another officer said to Stan, 'Turn your back, Catchpole.' The other officer then shot Tom - to put him out of his misery, there being no chance that he would live. He lies buried at Deir El Belah War Cemetery. Geoffrey Woollard. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you very kindly, Michael. We have the Margaret Catchpole book but haven't been able to find a relationship - yet! Geoffrey Woollard. In a message dated 2017-11-13 15:11:08 GMT Standard Time, michael.daniels1@tesco.net writes: Hello Geoffrey, listers, Just one of many sad stories, too many to mention. 'Great' war only in its degree of magnitude, otherwise another terrible example of man's inhumanity to man. The Catchpoles of Suffolk, interesting people, but cannot add further to your account, although I sense you did not expect this - Remembrance day related. I was only to become aware of that name after a friend lent me the book 'The History of Margaret Catchpole', penned by a Suffolk Victorian vicar and author, Richard Cobbold. A fascinating saga part based on fact, but some narrative imaginatively enhanced to ensure its maximised appeal whilst Cobbold occasionally straying from the actual circumstances. For those who still like to read, give it whirl here http://www.gutenberg.org/files/39326/39326-h/39326-h.htm Michael in next county Essex, UK

A moving tribute to the fallen of your relatives Nivard. Such an utter waste of good people. When will they ever learn? Where Have All the Flowers Gone Where have all the flowers gone? Long time passing Where have all the flowers gone? Long time ago Where have all the flowers gone? Girls have picked them every one When will they ever learn? When will they ever learn? Where have all the young girls gone? Long time passing Where have all the young girls gone? Long time ago Where have all the young girls gone? Taken husbands every one When will they ever learn? When will they ever learn? Where have all the young men gone? Long time passing Where have all the young men gone? Long time ago Where have all the young men gone? Gone for soldiers every one When will they ever learn? When will they ever learn? Where have all the soldiers gone? Long time passing Where have all the soldiers gone? Long time ago Where have all the soldiers gone? Gone to graveyards every one When will they ever learn? When will they ever learn? Where have all the graveyards gone? Long time passing Where have all the graveyards gone? Long time ago Where have all the graveyards gone? Covered with flowers every one When will we ever learn? When will we ever learn? Songwriters: Peter Seeger Regards Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 10:00:58 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [SFK-UK] In Remembrance of those that gave their today that we may have our tomorrow In Remembrance of my grandfather Thomas George YOELL and connected family members who gave their lives that we may be free Also all those family members, to numerous to mention here that served their Country Thomas George Yoell Private M2/189877 Army Service Corps Unit : "G" Siege Park attd. VII Corps Heavy Artillery Age: 39 Died 24th November 1918 Son of Edwin and Charlotte Yoell, of "Carolgate," Retford, Notts; husband of Edith Caroline Yoell, of The Bungalow, Horsemoor Green, Langley, Bucks. Estate Agent. Grave Reference VIII. C. 38. Cemetery Busigny Communal Cemetery Extension Lawrence Ovington Serjeant 5714 4th Bn Yorkshire Regiment Age: 25 Died 16th November 1916 Son of Ralph Stephenson Ovington and Mary Ann Ovington, of 42, Tavistock St. Middlesbrough. Grave Reference Sp. Mem. C. 22. Cemetery Bazentin-Le-Petit Communal Cemetery Extension Richard John Seymour Gunner 125265 "D" Bty. 157th Bde. Royal Field Artillery Age: 19 Died 28th January 1917 Son of John and Julia Seymour, of Ash Cottage, Langley, Slough, Bucks. Grave Reference II. C. 23. Cemetery Faubourg D'Amiens Cemetery Arras Also his cousin V.A.D. nurse Florence Margaret SEYMOUR died September 1914 Daughter of Arthur Seymour & Fanny Maria nee Wells Malcolm Graeme Maccoll Nationality: Australian Private 5927 18th Bn Australian Infantry, A.I.F. Age: 46 Died 3rd May 1917 Son of the Rev. Malcolm MacColl and Maria Cecilia MacColl, of "Hillview," Harvey St., Yoker, North Glasgow Scotland. Born at Camberwell, London England. Grave Reference III. K. 6. Cemetery Arras Road Cemetery, Roclincourt ----------------------------- De Ruvigny's Roll of Honour 1914-1918 Malcolm Graeme MACCOLL 2nd Lieut 18th Battn. Australian Imperial Force, 2nd s of the late Rev Malcolm Maccoll, Rector of St Columba Yoker, by his wife, Maria C. (2 Harvey Street, Yoker), dau. of George Anderson, of Demerara; b. Camberwell, London, S.E., 3 April 1871; educ. Merchant Taylors School, and Victoria College Jersey; served in the South African War 1899 - 1902 in the Queensland 3rd Contingent; took part in the relief of Mafeking, and later transferred to the Cape Mounted Police. On the outbreak of war he obtained a commission in the Natal Light Horse, and served through the German South West Africa Campaign; afterwards joined the Expeditionary Force in France and Flanders, and was killed in action at Bullecourt 3 May, 1917; unm. Archie Hurst Private 72087 1st/5th Bn. Devonshire Regiment Age: 18 Died 30th September 1918 Son of Arthur and Amy Hurst of 65, Rue de L'eglise, A'Fromelennes, pras Givet, Ardennes, France. Native of Leicester. Grave Reference II. A. 14. Cemetery Masnieres British Cemetery, Marcoing Charles William Bull Serjeant 15205 8th Bn North Staffordshire Regiment Died 18th January 1916 Grave Reference II. M. 6. Cemetery St Vaast Post Military Cemetery, Richebourg-L'Avoue Graham Powell Private 14919 9th Bn Leicestershire Regiment Died 25th September 1916 Grave Reference Pier and Face 2 C and 3 A. Memorial Theipval Memorial Heathcote Wyndham Nationality: Australian Lieutenant 38th Bn Australian Infantry, A.I.F. Age: 44 Died 17th July 1917 Son of Hugh and Celia Wyndham; husband of G. Wyndham, of Westholm, Inverell, New South Wales. Grave II. C. 27. Cemetery Kandahar Farm Cemetery Percy Irvine Haylock Owen Second Lieutenant Died 22nd September 1917 Age: 26 Australian Infantry, A.I.F. 3rd Bn. Grave Reference: LXI. B. 9. Cemetery Tyne Cot Cemetery Son of Lt. Col. Robert Haylock Owen, C.M.G., and Hilda Grace Owen of Morton Grange, Thornbury, Glos., England. Native of Gibraltar. Charles Wesley Proud Lyth Serjeant 42535 76th Company Machine Gun Corps Age: 30 Died 5th May 1917 Husband of Carrie Lyth, of 73, Falsgrave Rd., Scarborough. Grave Reference: Bay 10. Memorial Arras Memorial Lawrence Edward F Siddons Private 9582 1st Bn The King's (Liverpool Regiment) Age: 23 Died 19th May 1915 Son of Nelson Fearn Siddons and Ellen Jane Siddons, of 225, Stockbrook St., Derby; husband of Adelaide Ann Stacey (formerly Siddons). Grave Reference Panels 6 to 8. Memorial Le Touret Memorial John Barr Anderson Driver 119421 Royal Army Service Corps Age: 23 Died 17th November 1942 Son of George Ernest Anderson, and of Janet Anderson Anderson, of St. Mawes, Cornwall. Of British Guiana. Grave Reference 1. D. 6. Cemetery Knightsbridge War Cemetery, Acroma Felix Bernard Grigioni Sergeant 1119682 (Flt. Engr.) 97 Sqdn Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve Age: 36 Died 2nd January 1944 Husband of Laura Grey, of Wallasey, Cheshire. Grave Reference 6. A. 20. Cemetery Rheinberg War Cemetery In Flanders Fields In Flanders fields the poppies blow Between the crosses, row on row, That mark our place; and in the sky The larks, still bravely singing, fly Scarce heard amid the guns below. We are the Dead. Short days ago We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow, Loved, and were loved, and now we lie In Flanders fields. Take up our quarrel with the foe: To you from failing hands we throw The torch; be yours to hold it high. If ye break faith with us who die We shall not sleep, though poppies grow In Flanders fields. (Major John McCrae - 3rd May 1915) -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In Remembrance of my grandfather Thomas George YOELL and connected family members who gave their lives that we may be free Also all those family members, to numerous to mention here that served their Country Thomas George Yoell Private M2/189877 Army Service Corps Unit : "G" Siege Park attd. VII Corps Heavy Artillery Age: 39 Died 24th November 1918 Son of Edwin and Charlotte Yoell, of "Carolgate," Retford, Notts; husband of Edith Caroline Yoell, of The Bungalow, Horsemoor Green, Langley, Bucks. Estate Agent. Grave Reference VIII. C. 38. Cemetery Busigny Communal Cemetery Extension Lawrence Ovington Serjeant 5714 4th Bn Yorkshire Regiment Age: 25 Died 16th November 1916 Son of Ralph Stephenson Ovington and Mary Ann Ovington, of 42, Tavistock St. Middlesbrough. Grave Reference Sp. Mem. C. 22. Cemetery Bazentin-Le-Petit Communal Cemetery Extension Richard John Seymour Gunner 125265 "D" Bty. 157th Bde. Royal Field Artillery Age: 19 Died 28th January 1917 Son of John and Julia Seymour, of Ash Cottage, Langley, Slough, Bucks. Grave Reference II. C. 23. Cemetery Faubourg D'Amiens Cemetery Arras Also his cousin V.A.D. nurse Florence Margaret SEYMOUR died September 1914 Daughter of Arthur Seymour & Fanny Maria nee Wells Malcolm Graeme Maccoll Nationality: Australian Private 5927 18th Bn Australian Infantry, A.I.F. Age: 46 Died 3rd May 1917 Son of the Rev. Malcolm MacColl and Maria Cecilia MacColl, of "Hillview," Harvey St., Yoker, North Glasgow Scotland. Born at Camberwell, London England. Grave Reference III. K. 6. Cemetery Arras Road Cemetery, Roclincourt ----------------------------- De Ruvigny's Roll of Honour 1914-1918 Malcolm Graeme MACCOLL 2nd Lieut 18th Battn. Australian Imperial Force, 2nd s of the late Rev Malcolm Maccoll, Rector of St Columba Yoker, by his wife, Maria C. (2 Harvey Street, Yoker), dau. of George Anderson, of Demerara; b. Camberwell, London, S.E., 3 April 1871; educ. Merchant Taylors School, and Victoria College Jersey; served in the South African War 1899 - 1902 in the Queensland 3rd Contingent; took part in the relief of Mafeking, and later transferred to the Cape Mounted Police. On the outbreak of war he obtained a commission in the Natal Light Horse, and served through the German South West Africa Campaign; afterwards joined the Expeditionary Force in France and Flanders, and was killed in action at Bullecourt 3 May, 1917; unm. Archie Hurst Private 72087 1st/5th Bn. Devonshire Regiment Age: 18 Died 30th September 1918 Son of Arthur and Amy Hurst of 65, Rue de L'eglise, A'Fromelennes, pras Givet, Ardennes, France. Native of Leicester. Grave Reference II. A. 14. Cemetery Masnieres British Cemetery, Marcoing Charles William Bull Serjeant 15205 8th Bn North Staffordshire Regiment Died 18th January 1916 Grave Reference II. M. 6. Cemetery St Vaast Post Military Cemetery, Richebourg-L'Avoue Graham Powell Private 14919 9th Bn Leicestershire Regiment Died 25th September 1916 Grave Reference Pier and Face 2 C and 3 A. Memorial Theipval Memorial Heathcote Wyndham Nationality: Australian Lieutenant 38th Bn Australian Infantry, A.I.F. Age: 44 Died 17th July 1917 Son of Hugh and Celia Wyndham; husband of G. Wyndham, of Westholm, Inverell, New South Wales. Grave II. C. 27. Cemetery Kandahar Farm Cemetery Percy Irvine Haylock Owen Second Lieutenant Died 22nd September 1917 Age: 26 Australian Infantry, A.I.F. 3rd Bn. Grave Reference: LXI. B. 9. Cemetery Tyne Cot Cemetery Son of Lt. Col. Robert Haylock Owen, C.M.G., and Hilda Grace Owen of Morton Grange, Thornbury, Glos., England. Native of Gibraltar. Charles Wesley Proud Lyth Serjeant 42535 76th Company Machine Gun Corps Age: 30 Died 5th May 1917 Husband of Carrie Lyth, of 73, Falsgrave Rd., Scarborough. Grave Reference: Bay 10. Memorial Arras Memorial Lawrence Edward F Siddons Private 9582 1st Bn The King's (Liverpool Regiment) Age: 23 Died 19th May 1915 Son of Nelson Fearn Siddons and Ellen Jane Siddons, of 225, Stockbrook St., Derby; husband of Adelaide Ann Stacey (formerly Siddons). Grave Reference Panels 6 to 8. Memorial Le Touret Memorial John Barr Anderson Driver 119421 Royal Army Service Corps Age: 23 Died 17th November 1942 Son of George Ernest Anderson, and of Janet Anderson Anderson, of St. Mawes, Cornwall. Of British Guiana. Grave Reference 1. D. 6. Cemetery Knightsbridge War Cemetery, Acroma Felix Bernard Grigioni Sergeant 1119682 (Flt. Engr.) 97 Sqdn Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve Age: 36 Died 2nd January 1944 Husband of Laura Grey, of Wallasey, Cheshire. Grave Reference 6. A. 20. Cemetery Rheinberg War Cemetery In Flanders Fields In Flanders fields the poppies blow Between the crosses, row on row, That mark our place; and in the sky The larks, still bravely singing, fly Scarce heard amid the guns below. We are the Dead. Short days ago We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow, Loved, and were loved, and now we lie In Flanders fields. Take up our quarrel with the foe: To you from failing hands we throw The torch; be yours to hold it high. If ye break faith with us who die We shall not sleep, though poppies grow In Flanders fields. (Major John McCrae - 3rd May 1915) -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Remembering John Dolby Diaper, a young sailor, my grandfather's only brother. Died 18 April 1918 aged 19. -----Original Message----- From: SUFFOLK [mailto:suffolk-bounces+dudley=fivers.plus.com@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of P. S. & C. A. Wyant Sent: 10 November 2017 19:22 To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Subject: [SFK-UK] November 11 Hello, Folks, as we do at this time every year on this List and this year especially (being the 100th anniversary of the Battle of Passchendaele, in which at least 417,000 on both sides - but likely many more - were casualties), and whether you call it Remembrance Day, Armistice Day or Veterans' Day, please feel free to post your memories of warriors either lost or returned, who served or who are still serving, of any country and any conflict, and of civilians lost because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. I remember my father, Lt.Col. Gordon M. Wyant, who served in the RAMC in WWII and my uncle, Sgt. Edgar T. Wyant, who served in Italy with the 849th Signal Infantry Service, U.S. Army. I remember my grandfather's younger brother, Gefr. Arthur Weiss, 87th Reserve Infantry Regiment of Mainz, who was killed near Cernay-en-Dormois, France, on 15 May/1915 (Pesach) fighting for his country. Last month, I tried to find his grave in three immaculately kept German war cemeteries near Cernay-en-Dormois but could not. Each cemetery also had a plot holding between hundreds and thousands of unnamed German war dead from nearby battles of WWI. I can only assume he is resting in one of those. And I remember all the members of my extended family who perished in the Holocaust. Lest we forget. Peter SUFFOLK List Admin. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUFFOLK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Friday the 3rd of November, 2017, was the 100th anniversary of the death of my wife Sue’s great uncle, Captain Thomas John (Tom) Catchpole. He was born at Lidgate Hall (Suffolk) on the 24th of August 1888, the seventh child and second son of farmer Arthur Robert Catchpole (1856 – 1935) and his wife, Catherine Mary (née Pearl) (1852 –1935), and was baptised at St. Mary’s Church, Lidgate, on the 19th of October following. Tom, who was educated at Framlingham College and won prizes there, was destined to farm, too, but at the outbreak of the so-called ‘Great War’ he was called up to join H Company of the 5th (Territorial) Battalion of the Suffolk Regiment. He was soon promoted to the rank of captain and was sent to the Middle East. It was there that he met his end fighting the Ottoman Turks. In the latter part of the third Battle of Gaza and in hand-to-hand fighting, a Turkish soldier thrust a pickaxe through Tom’s body and the terrible injury left him writhing in agony. Tom’s younger brother, Stanley Ernest (Stan) Catchpole (1890 – 1959), was also present. Another officer said to Stan, 'Turn your back, Catchpole.' The other officer then shot Tom - to put him out of his misery, there being no chance that he would live. He lies buried at Deir El Belah War Cemetery. Geoffrey Woollard.

Hello, Folks, as we do at this time every year on this List and this year especially (being the 100th anniversary of the Battle of Passchendaele, in which at least 417,000 on both sides - but likely many more - were casualties), and whether you call it Remembrance Day, Armistice Day or Veterans' Day, please feel free to post your memories of warriors either lost or returned, who served or who are still serving, of any country and any conflict, and of civilians lost because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. I remember my father, Lt.Col. Gordon M. Wyant, who served in the RAMC in WWII and my uncle, Sgt. Edgar T. Wyant, who served in Italy with the 849th Signal Infantry Service, U.S. Army. I remember my grandfather's younger brother, Gefr. Arthur Weiss, 87th Reserve Infantry Regiment of Mainz, who was killed near Cernay-en-Dormois, France, on 15 May/1915 (Pesach) fighting for his country. Last month, I tried to find his grave in three immaculately kept German war cemeteries near Cernay-en-Dormois but could not. Each cemetery also had a plot holding between hundreds and thousands of unnamed German war dead from nearby battles of WWI. I can only assume he is resting in one of those. And I remember all the members of my extended family who perished in the Holocaust. Lest we forget. Peter SUFFOLK List Admin.

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Peter SUFFOLK List Admin. -----Original Message----- From: SUFFOLK [mailto:suffolk-bounces+wyants=sasktel.net@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Steve Barber Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 03:00 To: suffolk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] Banham family I have some details of the Banhams through their descent from Keziah Towers, herself a descendant of the Fuller family who lived at Buxhall. Regards, Steve > On 3 Nov 2017, at 21:10, RootsWeb Gateway Notification <rootswebgateway@ancestry.com> wrote: > > > > [1]ancestry > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > Author: hgbrook61 > Surnames: > Classification: queries > Message Board: [2]Click here > Message Board Post: > I am Harry Banhams granddaughter. Harry was Issac and Elizabeth Howe's > youngest child. They farmed in Brand Road Great Barton. As the last to > leave home I have paperwork and photos. > Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to > this list. 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