Hello Bob Family Search has a baptism at Aldham 25th May 1740 Brian ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, 5 June 2012, 14:20 Subject: [SFK-UK] Parish Records Good morning everyone, would anyone happen to have access to the Aldham or Bury St. Edmonds parish records for the year 1740 to 1745. I am looking for a baptism for a Sarah SPARROW dau. of John and Sarah SPARROW. I would also like to find the marriage for John and Sarah. thank you Bob ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Janine No worries just wondered that is all - will keep an eye out for you. Ingrid -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Janine Fisher Sent: 05 June 2012 1:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] Faiers family Hi Ingrid No, sorry this doesn't sound like him. Janine -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ingrid billings Sent: Tuesday, 5 June 2012 10:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] Faiers family Hi Janine This is a silly question but did he die in 1871 in Lavenham? My husband has some Faiers in his line. Ingrid -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Janine Fisher Sent: 05 June 2012 11:38 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SFK-UK] Shrubland Park Hi List Would anyone have an idea where I could find some information on Shrubland Park in Barham Ipswich. I have googled a fair amount about ownership etc, but I have an old postcard of Shrubland found in my Great Grandfathers correspondence, which has hand written on it : "Shrubland Park Beautiful Estate designed by William Fraiers for Sir William Middleton now belonging to Lady De Laumaurez, Maze 12 ft of Box" As I said I can google info about who owned Shrubland and that it was designed by James Pain and that the gardens were designed by Sir Charles Barry etc, but would there be records of gardeners at the estate or who worked there around 1850? My ancestors were Faiers living in Barham on the 1851 census and I wondered if Willliam Faiers may have been a gardener there. Would the SRO have records of this type? Thank you in advance Janine ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2433/5045 - Release Date: 06/04/12 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Janine This is a silly question but did he die in 1871 in Lavenham? My husband has some Faiers in his line. Ingrid -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Janine Fisher Sent: 05 June 2012 11:38 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SFK-UK] Shrubland Park Hi List Would anyone have an idea where I could find some information on Shrubland Park in Barham Ipswich. I have googled a fair amount about ownership etc, but I have an old postcard of Shrubland found in my Great Grandfathers correspondence, which has hand written on it : "Shrubland Park Beautiful Estate designed by William Fraiers for Sir William Middleton now belonging to Lady De Laumaurez, Maze 12 ft of Box" As I said I can google info about who owned Shrubland and that it was designed by James Pain and that the gardens were designed by Sir Charles Barry etc, but would there be records of gardeners at the estate or who worked there around 1850? My ancestors were Faiers living in Barham on the 1851 census and I wondered if Willliam Faiers may have been a gardener there. Would the SRO have records of this type? Thank you in advance Janine ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Janine The best people to ask would be the records office themselves Staff records being a purely private matter at the time you can only hope that any records if kept at all are lodged with the records office but there was nothing compelling them to do so Does it still survive? if so and the records office can't help, try the present owners, its possible for these things to still be in private hands and be passed down Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) PS neither William FRAIERS or FAIERS comes up in Barham, the nearest I see is some FAYERS is that your family? If so they are Ag Labs not gardeners > Would anyone have an idea where I could find some information on Shrubland > Park in Barham Ipswich. I have googled a fair amount about ownership etc, > but I have an old postcard of Shrubland found in my Great Grandfathers > correspondence, which has hand written on it : > > "Shrubland Park Beautiful Estate designed by William Fraiers for Sir William > Middleton now belonging to Lady De Laumaurez, Maze 12 ft of Box" > > As I said I can google info about who owned Shrubland and that it was > designed by James Pain and that the gardens were designed by Sir Charles > Barry etc, but would there be records of gardeners at the estate or who > worked there around 1850? My ancestors were Faiers living in Barham on the > 1851 census and I wondered if Willliam Faiers may have been a gardener > there. Would the SRO have records of this type? > > > Janine

Good morning everyone, would anyone happen to have access to the Aldham or Bury St. Edmonds parish records for the year 1740 to 1745. I am looking for a baptism for a Sarah SPARROW dau. of John and Sarah SPARROW. I would also like to find the marriage for John and Sarah. thank you Bob

Hello Janene, we may have talked before but possibly not about the Fayers line? Although i am not actually connected to the Fayers line myself i do have a little information on the line. The earliest i have is Samuel with no dates. The most information i have is of their descendants. Could you please contact me off list. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Janine Fisher Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 6:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SFK-UK] Shrubland Park Hi List Would anyone have an idea where I could find some information on Shrubland Park in Barham Ipswich. I have googled a fair amount about ownership etc, but I have an old postcard of Shrubland found in my Great Grandfathers correspondence, which has hand written on it : "Shrubland Park Beautiful Estate designed by William Fraiers for Sir William Middleton now belonging to Lady De Laumaurez, Maze 12 ft of Box" As I said I can google info about who owned Shrubland and that it was designed by James Pain and that the gardens were designed by Sir Charles Barry etc, but would there be records of gardeners at the estate or who worked there around 1850? My ancestors were Faiers living in Barham on the 1851 census and I wondered if Willliam Faiers may have been a gardener there. Would the SRO have records of this type? Thank you in advance Janine ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Simon, I wonder whether the following book might give you any information about your relative Smith. The book is by Malcolm R. White, and on his website it says:- Lowestoft Corporation Transport. Lowestoft Corporation Transport. Bygone Town Scenes. Much in demand by transport enthusiasts, local historians and residents, Lowestoft Corporation Transport details the history of municipal public transport in Lowestoft, from the introduction of the tramway services in 1903, until 1977, when whilst under the control of Waveney District Council, the bus services were transferred to the Eastern Counties Omnibus Company (now First Group), resulting in the council bus fleet and the support vehicle being sold. This is the first book to be published covering this small and fascinating transport undertaking, and will appeal to anyone interested in old Lowestoft, since there are many views showing vehicles, scenes and locations. Of special interest are the photographs of many fine vehicles with bodywork built in the town by the well known Eastern Coach Works, a quality bus and coach builder unfortunately no longer with us. Many images of trams supplement the large number of quality photographs of town buses at work. In addition to the seven maps included in the book, examples of tickets, adverts, official forms and other items relating to this much loved undertaking are to be found in Lowestoft Corporation Transport. A number of former Lowestoft Corporation and Waveney District Council transport undertaking employees and highly respected nationally known people specialising in the history of public road transport undertakings have assisted in the preparation of this publication. 2003 was the one hundredth anniversary of the start of public municipal transport in the town, and this title commemorated that fact. ISBN9780953248599 Pages108 Price£11.99 Photos33 colour, 98 mono Dimensions8.25" x 10" (210mm x 255mm) Lowestoft Corporation Transport can be ordered direct. from Coastal Publications and is available from any good bookshop. David Scott.

David Many thanks for your reply and suggestion about the directories and phone books. I will give both a try. Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Scott" <[email protected]> To: "Simon Smith" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 4:01 PM Subject: [SFK-UK] In Reply To: Electoral Rolls for Lowestoft > Simon, > I had serious hopes that I might be able to help you with your Smith > search, but ... > My wife's mother's maiden name was Smith, the youngest of thirteen > children, and living in and around Lowestoft. However, the addresses > don't ring any bells with us. > However, we looked at the Kelly's Directory for Lowestoft for 1948-49, but > could not find any Smiths in Kirkley Cliff. Oddly, there are most > numbers, the only number missing is number six. It is a road of hotels, > both public and private, boarding houses, dentists, and girls schools. > However, it does remind me that rather than electoral roles, you might be > advised to try and find Kelly's directories or even the phone books for > Lowestoft, perhaps nearer the time when you know they were living in > Kirkley Cliff. > > Sorry not to be of more help, > > David Scott. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Simon Smith - Email Address: [email protected] > Sent On: 04/06/2012 14:59 > Sent To: [email protected] - Email Address: [email protected] > Subject: [SFK-UK] Electoral Rolls for Lowestoft > > Hello Listers > > I am trying to find a lost great uncle who is supposed to have moved to > the Lowestoft area during or just after the Great War. > > There are two large problems with this first off the surname "Smith" and > secondly no first name, just family stories of Uncle Ted or Uncle Jim. > > I do however have an address that was found amongst the list of invitees > to my parents wedding of > > Mrs & Mrs Smith > 6 Kirtley Cliff > Lowestoft > > Can any one advise how I can search the Electoral rolls for the 1950 and > early 1960's as I am currently unable to travel to the area? > > Many Thanks > > Simon > > ps family stories also say that he became managing director of Lowestoft > Transport, but I have not been able to verify this either > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2425/5043 - Release Date: 06/03/12 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Kelly's Directory of Lowestoft 1974 Flat 1 No.6 Kirkley Cliff Road - M . P. Smith Not at the above address in 1963 Hope this helps Anitra Simon Smith wrote: > Hello Listers > > I am trying to find a lost great uncle who is supposed to have moved to the Lowestoft area during or just after the Great War. > > There are two large problems with this first off the surname "Smith" and secondly no first name, just family stories of Uncle Ted or Uncle Jim. > > I do however have an address that was found amongst the list of invitees to my parents wedding of > > Mrs & Mrs Smith > 6 Kirtley Cliff > Lowestoft > > Can any one advise how I can search the Electoral rolls for the 1950 and early 1960's as I am currently unable to travel to the area? > > Many Thanks > > Simon > > ps family stories also say that he became managing director of Lowestoft Transport, but I have not been able to verify this either > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Simon, I had serious hopes that I might be able to help you with your Smith search, but ... My wife's mother's maiden name was Smith, the youngest of thirteen children, and living in and around Lowestoft. However, the addresses don't ring any bells with us. However, we looked at the Kelly's Directory for Lowestoft for 1948-49, but could not find any Smiths in Kirkley Cliff. Oddly, there are most numbers, the only number missing is number six. It is a road of hotels, both public and private, boarding houses, dentists, and girls schools. However, it does remind me that rather than electoral roles, you might be advised to try and find Kelly's directories or even the phone books for Lowestoft, perhaps nearer the time when you know they were living in Kirkley Cliff. Sorry not to be of more help, David Scott. -----Original Message----- From: Simon Smith - Email Address: [email protected] Sent On: 04/06/2012 14:59 Sent To: [email protected] - Email Address: [email protected] Subject: [SFK-UK] Electoral Rolls for Lowestoft Hello Listers I am trying to find a lost great uncle who is supposed to have moved to the Lowestoft area during or just after the Great War. There are two large problems with this first off the surname "Smith" and secondly no first name, just family stories of Uncle Ted or Uncle Jim. I do however have an address that was found amongst the list of invitees to my parents wedding of Mrs & Mrs Smith 6 Kirtley Cliff Lowestoft Can any one advise how I can search the Electoral rolls for the 1950 and early 1960's as I am currently unable to travel to the area? Many Thanks Simon ps family stories also say that he became managing director of Lowestoft Transport, but I have not been able to verify this either ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2425/5043 - Release Date: 06/03/12

Hello Listers I am trying to find a lost great uncle who is supposed to have moved to the Lowestoft area during or just after the Great War. There are two large problems with this first off the surname "Smith" and secondly no first name, just family stories of Uncle Ted or Uncle Jim. I do however have an address that was found amongst the list of invitees to my parents wedding of Mrs & Mrs Smith 6 Kirtley Cliff Lowestoft Can any one advise how I can search the Electoral rolls for the 1950 and early 1960's as I am currently unable to travel to the area? Many Thanks Simon ps family stories also say that he became managing director of Lowestoft Transport, but I have not been able to verify this either

Good afternoon, Could you please tell me if Newby is a name connected to a particular county, or does it crop up anywhere? Through my mother's family in Kent, I have a young woman, Ann maiden name Newby, who had a child outside of marriage, named Harriett Ann Newby, born 1806 in Surrey. I have further information on these two ladies, and Harriet Ann's descendants, one of whom, Caroline Jane Stone, came to Ballarat in the State of Victoria, Australia, around the time of the gold rush in the mid 1800s with her husband Robert Dodd and two children. Caroline's daughter Louisa Dodd was my maternal grandfather's mother. Liz Walker Lake Macquarie, Australia. On 4/06/2012 4:56 AM, Helena wrote: > Diane. I have come across a ton of stuff "out there" on your William Clarke > and Martha Newby, and how the family ended up in Canada etc. > I am thinking that probably...."my" William bc1751 is not "your" William > bc1748/9 > So. I am still looking. > > Helena > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "dianef0713"<[email protected]> > To:<[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 4:54 PM > Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] CLARKE family in Westhall > >

Good morning, Through my ancestors who lived in Bredfield, Suffolk, Robert Marjoram who married Frances Crowe in Ufford, I have direct connections to Charles Crowe, a baker and his wife Frances Burrows who married in 1792 in Ufford. This couple's youngest child, Mary Ann, married a John Broom in Bredfield in 1830. Robert Marjoram Snr. and his elder son William came to Australia as convicts, and after their release, Robert Snr. went back to Suffolk, was present at the weddings of two daughters and his younger son - also Robert, who married Lydia Moss. This young couple came to Australia as migrants, and Lydia died within a couple of years of coming here, possibly in child-birth. Robert Snr. brought his wife Frances back to Australia, where they lived for about another 20 years . William Marjoram married a girl from Scotland, Catherine Kennedy, and they had two children both on in the Toowoomba area in Q'ld, and the elder one was also named Frances. This Frances Marjoram married my John Hogan ancestor, whose convict father Denis's roots are in Tipperary, and Frances became well known as a mid-wife in the Meadow Flat area, near Bathurst, where they lived , and she sent the most beautiful postcards to my father, who was her grandson. I have also found an Edward Crowe who seems to have married, 1. Anne Broome, and 2. Hannah Broom, I think all in Ufford or Bredfield. I hope this helps someone out there. Liz Walker, Lake Macquarie, Australia.

Hello Helena, Sorry to not answer sooner.  I wanted to look more closely at my folder of notes. Yes, there is quite a bit online about my family.  A distant cousin and I worked for some time developing the lineage and he has posted it to the Island Register, a site from Prince Edward Island, where our family eventually settled. We were helped immensely by another distant cousin who still lived in Suffolk. This was about 9 years ago. Yes, Helena, I'm quite sure your William and mine are not the same. There are, however, enough common names to make the whole idea that they may have been related in some way very interesting! My William and his wife, Mary Clarke (have not been able to establish if they were related) had 3 children christened in Westhall.....James, William and Joseph. They then seem to disappear. We then found a William and Mary having 7 additional children in Brampton. There was naturally always a suspicion in my mind that this could have been another William & Mary Clarke. After all, these were very common names. However, through some stroke of luck I got an email from a descendant of Hannah Clarke, born in Brampton in 1798 which somehow confirmed the fact that it was indeed the same couple. I would have to read all of my notes thoroughly to check what that info was. My Hannah married Isaac Colman in Lowestoft 1 Feb 1819.  I am a descendant of William, one of the sons christened in Westhall. This is the generation that moved to PEI. I see you have related names of Low & Redgrave, names I've run across too. We probably should not think this is a dead end. Perhaps if we could get one generation farther back, we could find a link somewhere. I know this has piqued my interest! I hope you keep in touch. I certainly will let you know if I find anything more. Diane On Jun 3, 2012, at 2:56:30 PM, Helena <[email protected]> wrote: From: Helena <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] CLARKE family in Westhall Date: June 3, 2012 2:56:30 PM EDT To: [email protected] Diane. I have come across a ton of stuff "out there" on your William Clarke  and Martha Newby, and how the family ended up in Canada etc. I am thinking that probably...."my" William bc1751 is not "your" William  bc1748/9 So. I am still looking. Helena ----- Original Message -----  From: "dianef0713" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] CLARKE family in Westhall Hello Helena, I was very interested to see your post on the Suffolk list. I too have an  ancestor William Clarke who was christened in Westhall. My William was  christened in 1749 and married Mary Clarke 12 May 1777, also in Westhall.  Their son, also William, was christened 10 Feb 1783 in Westhall and married  Martha Newby 29 May 1809 in Uggeshall. This William was my 3rd great  grandfather. If you find any ties to your family, feel free to contact me off list. I  believe I have seen the Stannard name in doing my research but could not  find the reference to it in my quick look through my notes. Most of my work  on the Clarke family was done nearly 10 years ago. Hope to hear from you.... Diane Crook On May 29, 2012, at 7:54:48 AM, Helena <[email protected]> wrote: From: Helena <[email protected]> Subject: [SFK-UK] CLARKE family in Westhall Date: May 29, 2012 7:54:48 AM EDT To: [email protected] Hi. I was wondering if anyone knows how I might access the parish records for Westhall.... I did find that the early ones are available for viewing through an LDS library, but the 1800 period for Westhall does not appear to be listed in their catalog. I am in the US, so I do not have access to the Record Office. Thanks. Helena Researching CLARKE in Eye and Westhall, Suffolk. Specifically: William CLARKE and Mary STANNARD and their children. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to  [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes  in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to  [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes  in the subject and the body of the message  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Diane. I have come across a ton of stuff "out there" on your William Clarke and Martha Newby, and how the family ended up in Canada etc. I am thinking that probably...."my" William bc1751 is not "your" William bc1748/9 So. I am still looking. Helena ----- Original Message ----- From: "dianef0713" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] CLARKE family in Westhall Hello Helena, I was very interested to see your post on the Suffolk list. I too have an ancestor William Clarke who was christened in Westhall. My William was christened in 1749 and married Mary Clarke 12 May 1777, also in Westhall. Their son, also William, was christened 10 Feb 1783 in Westhall and married Martha Newby 29 May 1809 in Uggeshall. This William was my 3rd great grandfather. If you find any ties to your family, feel free to contact me off list. I believe I have seen the Stannard name in doing my research but could not find the reference to it in my quick look through my notes. Most of my work on the Clarke family was done nearly 10 years ago. Hope to hear from you.... Diane Crook On May 29, 2012, at 7:54:48 AM, Helena <[email protected]> wrote: From: Helena <[email protected]> Subject: [SFK-UK] CLARKE family in Westhall Date: May 29, 2012 7:54:48 AM EDT To: [email protected] Hi. I was wondering if anyone knows how I might access the parish records for Westhall.... I did find that the early ones are available for viewing through an LDS library, but the 1800 period for Westhall does not appear to be listed in their catalog. I am in the US, so I do not have access to the Record Office. Thanks. Helena Researching CLARKE in Eye and Westhall, Suffolk. Specifically: William CLARKE and Mary STANNARD and their children. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There doesn't have to be a death to re-use a given name. My husband has two aunts, sisters, who were named after their mother. It was a family of eight and the eldest (now aged 98) and the youngest (74) were both baptised with the same name. The elder aunt did tell me that as a child, she assumed the name of a favourite school teacher and she has always been known by that name, so perhaps granny forgot by the time number 8 came along! Margery -----Original Message----- From: Joy Dean Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 5:31 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] REUSING CHRISTIAN NAMES Yes, in my Suffolk Packard family, several children were called William - one died then the next boy was called William and so it went on - eventually a William survived to adulthood. Joy Dean >

Hi, I am researching my THOMPSON family from Cavendish. If anyone has any information on this family I would be most grateful. The lady ELIZABETH RULTON born abt 1770 is causing me the most trouble at the moment. She is my 5x great grandmother and I am unable to find her origins. She married my 5 x great grandfather THOMAS THOMPSON 18th November 1790 in Cavendish but although I have searched extensively online and on Suffolk discs, I have drawn a blank. Does anyone out there have access to Cavendish church records and if so would they be so kind to have a look for me? I would be so grateful. ELIZABETH died and THOMAS married MARY GOLDING also of Cavendish, in 1798 at Cavendish church. They had 7 children together. regards Dorothy

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Thanks, Peter SUFFOLK List Admin. -------------------------------------------------- Edward CROWE born 4 Feb 1791 - 18 Feb 1871 UFFORD, Suffolk This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KarenBoxall Surnames: CROWE Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8798/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Looking for parents of Edward Crowe born in Ufford, Suffolk he married first Ann Broom because she died he then married her sister, Hannah Broom. Any information on the Crowe family would be useful as Im tryig to put a Crowe Tree together of Suffolk Regards Karen -------------------------------------------------- Edward CROWE born 4 Feb 1791 - 18 Feb 1871 UFFORD, Suffolk This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KarenBoxall Surnames: CROWE Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8798/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Looking for parents of Edward Crowe born in Ufford, Suffolk he married first Ann Broom because she died he then married her sister, Hannah Broom. Any information on the Crowe family would be useful as Im tryig to put a Crowe Tree together of Suffolk Regards Karen -------------------------------------------------- Re: Edward CROWE born 4 Feb 1791 - 18 Feb 1871 UFFORD, Suffolk This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lulupat Surnames: Crowe Classification: birth Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8798.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Closest one I can find. Just a couple of miles away. parents: Edward Baldry Crow,? Fanny Lockart name: Edward Baldry Crow gender: Male baptism/christening date: 15 Oct 1792 baptism/christening place: MELTON,SUFFOLK,ENGLAND father's name: Edward Baldry Crow mother's name: Fanny Lockart indexing project (batch) number: C06270-1 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 919623 -------------------------------------------------- Re: PARKHURST This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: debbiepeesjones Surnames: PARKHURST Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/129.269.271/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Do you still need information on PHEBE PARKHURST? I have a book on the Parkhurst Family that was published in 1897. It lists Phebe Parkhurst. She was born in England, married Thomas Arnold in 1640. George Parkhurst was the founder of the family in the US. He came from England on or about 1635. He brought at least two children with him - George, Jr., and Phebe. They lived in Watertown, Mass in 1642. He was probably a man of means for he owned a large tract of land, besides a homestead of twelve acres. In 1643 he was admitted freeman. He married his second wife, Susanna, widow of John Simpson, sold his Watertown estate and moved to Boston. They had no children. Thomas Arnold came to this country in may of 1635. He was admitted freeman in 1640. In Oct of 1651 he was fined 20 shillings by the court for offense against the law concerning baptism. April 2nd, 1654, he was fined 5 pds for neglecting public worship twenty days. April 2nd, 1656 he was fined ten pds for neglecting public worship 40 days, and his land was levied upon to pay it. Mr. Arnold seems to have inherited hsi study independence from his ancestors. Arnold was able to trace his ancestry back through seventeen generations to YNIR, KING OF GWENTLAND A.D. 1100, who was a direct descendant of WESSEX, who was King of the Britons 688 to 728. No information on children that I can find in the book. Let me know if you received this information. Debbie Jones [email protected] 5/2012 -------------------------------------------------- Missing person This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: joakawoofa Surnames: Holmes Wright Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8799/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm look for any information regarding a man called 'George' who we believed live in Norfolk, England. He would of known a lady called Muriel Wright or Holmes and had a son with her. -------------------------------------------------- Re: Edward CROWE born 4 Feb 1791 - 18 Feb 1871 UFFORD, Suffolk This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KarenBoxall Surnames: Crowe Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8798.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for finding this information. -------------------------------------------------- Re: STEGGLES This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dawnb8170 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/69.158.163.326/mb.ashx Message Board Post: hi i believe these are my ancestors. I am trying to find descendants MANNINGS in Wales. -------------------------------------------------- Re: Harriet Pretty This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Lindacalvert11 Surnames: Pretty Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8797.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, In the England & Wales Criminal Registers 1791-1892 there's a record for a Hannah PRETTY with an alternative name of Harriet PRETTY submitted by patriciafinnigan 31/12/2011. Suffolk Assizes 1st April 1851 Held at Bury St. Edmunds. Offence - Larceny by servant. Imprisonment 6 months. Best wishes Linda -------------------------------------------------- Re: Harriet Pretty This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dabriggs_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8797.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Linda Thanks for your reply. I'm not sure that this is the same person although there are several things in common. The Beccles Gaol was a small town lockup local to where Harriet lived. Bury St Edmunds seems to be to far away. I have seen mention of a document listing inmates at Beccles but have had no luck locating it. -------------------------------------------------- Re: STEGGLES This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PeterDeAth Surnames: STEGGALS Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/69.158.163.326.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Dawn, Wow, that was posted over 12 years ago! My STEGGALS ancestors hail from Haughley but my GG GF William STEGGALS was born in Great Finborough Suffolk in Mar 1776. He married Frances FENDICK in 1803 in Northwold, Norfolk and died there 1860, having been the Parish Clerk for many years. What STEGGALS ancestry do you have and where are they from? The Haughley ancestors I have are: John STEGGALS 1735-1817 John STEGGAL 1709-1757 John STEGGAL about 1678-1757 Note the surname is spelt variously - i.e. STYGAL STEGGLES STEGGELS STEGGAL Do we have a match? I have no knowledge of MANNING in Cardiff. Regards -------------------------------------------------- Re: THOMAS B. FRENCH born 1820 Haverhill (Risbridge) Suffolk This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kevinf51 Surnames: French Haverhill Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8191.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi ELL in Spain, this is Kevin French in Cape Town. My great great grandfather is the older brother of the Thomas French you are referring to. He moved to Norwich and married a Mary Middleton and their son Thomas John went to the Kimberley diamond mines in the early 1870s and that how I got to be here. I am researching French family in Haverhill. Are you? I'd like to link up with anyone researching the French's there. Please let me know. Regards Kevin French -------------------------------------------------- Re: Suffolk Yeomanry / Loyal Suffolk Hussars photos This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Gobbitt Surnames: GOBBITT, SHARPE Classification: military Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8671.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: As noted previously, the uniforms and history of the Suffolk Yeomanry (SY) in the 1900s are featured in the Aug. 2005 Bulletin of the Military Historical Society. Lance Corporal Charles Harry Gordon SHARPE of Thetford (1885-1949) is mentioned on page 27 of that edition, being one of five SY members to receive the Coronation Medal in 1911. His service record shows that he attended all the annual training camps of the SY from 1902 to 1914 (WO 364/3649; Ancestry image 15888): 1902 Lowestoft 13 to 29 May 1903 Bromeswell Heath [near Woodbridge] 4 to 21 May 1904 Bury St Edmunds [Grange Farm?] 9 to 26 May 1905 Ipswich [Gippeswyk Park] 8 to 25 May 1906 Thetford Bridge 7 to 24 May 1907 Beccles [Roos Hall Beccles Common Sotterley Park] 13 to 30 May 1908 Churn [Berkshire (now Oxfordshire)] 19 May to 2 June 1909 Lowestoft 18 May to 1 June 1910 Ipswich [Bixley Heath] 23 July to 6 Aug. 1911 Grantchester [near Cambridge] 16 to 30 May 1912 Hengrave [near Bury St Edmunds] 14 to 28 May 1913 Lowestoft 9 to 23 May 1914 Ipswich 8 to 22 May My great-grandfather, Henry Moyse GOBBITT, must have forgotten some these dates or locations in later decades, when he sent the attached photographs as postcards. Writing to his son Herbert or Don (who had emigrated to Australia) in 1927, he captioned the first as Thetford Camp, 1904. If he was right about the place, this was in fact 1906. His uniform is no great help here, as light Bedford cord breeches with scarlet welts were worn with blue puttees and black ankle boots from about 1901 until 1909, and his long-barrelled rifle and webbing bandolier were also in use throughout that period. I've copied the sergeant separately from another example of this picture, only half of which has survived. The later scene, showing Corporal GOBBITT (1877-1963) in field service order, was recalled in 1944 (when he sent it with happy birthday wishes to my father) as Grantchester, Cambs., 1906. But the khaki uniform was not issued to the SY before 1908 or perhaps 1909, so this photo seems more likely to date from 1911. The phantom legs on the other side of his horse are not so easily explained, and I don't know whether the man at the rear was training for a suicide mission or simply oblivious to the danger of playing with a rifle. David Gobbitt -------------------------------------------------- Re: parish records lookups This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: angelabishop800 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8609.31.1.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Glemsue, since I was last on ancestry I have been incontact with a family member back in the UK and foud out that Violet Mabel Knights did indeed live on the common with her Grandparents Richard Knights [Gypsy] and Sarah [Happy Sally] nothing much is known about her parents although she did have siblings it appears that her father may have died when she was small, and her mother was only able to look after the younger children Im still researching this side of the family to find out more, My Great Aunt now lives in the house that her parents Violet Mabel, and William Ward Hardy lived, in Shilling St Lavenham -------------------------------------------------- Re:- James Morris 1807 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kerryfarmery Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8801/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi can anyone shed light on a James Morris brn 1807. Either Suffolk/Scotland. We don't know if he's adding the name Fulcher. As we've tried looking for James Morris Fulcher but nothing. We know he's in the UK up till 1840. Then he turns up in Australia. any info would be appreciated Kerry -------------------------------------------------- Re: STEGGLES This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: suffolkmawther Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/69.158.163.326.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: ..... and our line from Wingfield tends to use STYGALL and STIGALL :-) Pat ... -------------------------------------------------- Re: parish records lookups This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Ronbasford2 Surnames: Challis Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8609.62/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Kate, Can you please help with my research for my Canadian pen pal ? I have got back to his GGgrandfather and need to find the next father back. - If the FATHER is shown of James Challis on his marriage to Rebecca Smith on 25/12/1835 at Haverhill.Suffolk. Regards Ron Basford of Romsey [ I do Hampshire look ups ] -------------------------------------------------- Challis-Help Required This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Ronbasford2 Surnames: Challis Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8802/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Researchers, Can you help ? I'm looking for the name of the father of James Challis who married 25/12/1835 at Haverhill,Suffolk. to Rebecca Smith. The 1841 census gives his and her age rounded up or down to 35 later census shows all the family born at Haverhill. Regards Ron of Romsey -------------------------------------------------- Re: parish records lookups This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: glemsue Surnames: Challis Classification: birth Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8609.62.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: To Ron You won't get fathers names on marriage pre civil registration which started in 1837, however I can tell you that on the Suffolk Marriage Index it says James was a widower at the time of marrying Rebecca. I see they are in Haverhill in 1841 and James was born c1806, I have found the following baptism. St. Mary, Haverhill James Challis bastard born 13th April, 1804 in the poorhouse baptised 27th December, 1818 mother Elizabeth no mention of father. -------------------------------------------------- Re: parish records /James Challis This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Ronbasford2 Surnames: Challis Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8609.62.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Sue, Thanks for your quick reply and help. so Rebecca was his 2nd Wife and she died after 6 years.He then married Sarah Backler. Was there by any chance any witnesses shown on that 1835 marriage ? The ages on the 1841 census were rounded up or down to the nearest 5 so it would seem that that the James you found,born out of wedlock, is correct. Thanks for your excellent help Regards Ron of Romsey pp John A Challis in Canada -------------------------------------------------- Re: parish records /James Challis This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: glemsue Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8609.62.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am afraid the index doesn't include witness names, you would have to consult the actual parish register for those. -------------------------------------------------- Re: parish records /James Challis This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Ronbasford2 Surnames: Challis Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8609.62.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Many thanks again, 11 year gap - James and Ann ? I like the look of the marriage of James and Eliza Willis and son John - they waited 6mth to baptise him - after they were married ! Her death date works well with the next marriage. John must have died young as 2 more "John's"followed The LDS site shows 2 dates for this John c132261 Do you have access to any "Bastardy Bonds ? Regards Ron --------------------------------------------------

Hi Gerald & others, Your comment about watching baptisms closely hit the mark with me. I've found many trees on Ancestry & other sites where this double naming has happened and has been either missed as two (or more) children, or had the children confused with each other. These days, as a matter of course, if I find what appears to be a duplicate baptism - ie, same name baptised on different dates for what appears to be the same parents - I start checking the deaths to see if the earlier child/children died. With so much sharing of family research available on the web, it's easy to confuse family members when one double naming occurs, particularly if a death record has been overlooked. I do find it interesting, though, that so many have duplicate children's names where the children all survived! My stepfather was the 14th of 19 children (one father, two mothers), and he always expressed his father's pride in never repeating a name - first or middle - amongst them. In researching his family, I did find one child who died, and his first name reused with a different middle name. Interesting discussion! Regards, Jane Eliza (did someone mention my name?!) researching Ruse, Allbrow, Fulcher, Arnold, Last, Lofts, Rayner, Ellis, Thornton & maybe Fairlam in Suffolk. On 3/06/2012 3:46 AM, Townsends wrote: > Hi Anne and other posters > I have the same thing happening in my Suffolk Welham family. One has to watch baptisms quite closely and try and get all family members to ensure they are following same person. I had one male child who lived to be 12 and then died and the next son was given his name and survived to an old age. If I had not captured all of the family baptisms I could have mistakenly used the first son's baptism as the one for the second son who was the survivor. > > Gerald Townsend > Vancouver, British Columbia Canada > Searching for Suffolk: Welham, Josselyn/Joslin, Green, Knights, Girt, Knock, Garwood, Downing, Grimwood, Snell, Clarke, Lambert, Wallage, Gould >

On 2012/06/02 19:46, Townsends wrote: > I have the same thing happening in my Suffolk Welham family. One has to > watch baptisms quite closely and try and get all family members to ensure > they are following same person. I had one male child who lived to be 12 and > then died and the next son was given his name and survived to an old age. If > I had not captured all of the family baptisms I could have mistakenly used > the first son's baptism as the one for the second son who was the survivor. You have WELHAMs. So do I! Are they from Hadleigh by any chance? -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg