Many Thanks for the information. I am ploughing through marriage bonds for another marriage by licence and when I have finished I shall try and find this one. I have found some Suffolk bonds in the Norwich Consistory Court records, can I assume this one may be there too? Jan On 07/06/2012 14:40, Mike Fry wrote: > On 2012/06/06 22:39, Jan Rockett wrote: > >> I have found a marriage in Bury of Michael Rockett, bachelor of Deal, >> Kent and Elizabeth Hester. They married 5 August 1805./ I wondered if >> the images are available like the Norfolk images on Familysearch as i am >> trying to find details of my Thomas Rockett who has, until now, been a >> mystery. >> I am tracing the above marriage and couple as they may be the answer to >> my mystery and may even be his parents, but who can tell?! > At that date, the marriage entry will probably only include the witnesses. > Father's names and occupations don't appear until about 1837. Previous to 1754, > you won't even get witnesses. >

Mike I also have WELHAMS in my tree. A jJames Welham b abt 1720 married Sarah Nunn b abt 1717. They married in 1741 in Haughley,Suffolk Also Nun Welham, Sarah, Susannah, James , Alice. Any connections Regards John On 2 June 2012 22:33, Mike Fry <[email protected]> wrote: > On 2012/06/02 19:46, Townsends wrote: > > > I have the same thing happening in my Suffolk Welham family. One has to > > watch baptisms quite closely and try and get all family members to ensure > > they are following same person. I had one male child who lived to be 12 > and > > then died and the next son was given his name and survived to an old > age. If > > I had not captured all of the family baptisms I could have mistakenly > used > > the first son's baptism as the one for the second son who was the > survivor. > > You have WELHAMs. So do I! Are they from Hadleigh by any chance? > > -- > Regards, > Mike Fry > Johannesburg > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On 7 June 2012 15:20, Jan Rockett <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks for that. > It was the Ancestry entry that I had found and wondered if the original > images were out there somewhere? The Harleian Society's publication can be viewed at http://archive.org/details/allegationsforma71chur - you want page 131. -- Ian Partridge

On 2012/06/06 22:39, Jan Rockett wrote: > I have found a marriage in Bury of Michael Rockett, bachelor of Deal, > Kent and Elizabeth Hester. They married 5 August 1805./ I wondered if > the images are available like the Norfolk images on Familysearch as i am > trying to find details of my Thomas Rockett who has, until now, been a > mystery. > I am tracing the above marriage and couple as they may be the answer to > my mystery and may even be his parents, but who can tell?! At that date, the marriage entry will probably only include the witnesses. Father's names and occupations don't appear until about 1837. Previous to 1754, you won't even get witnesses. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

Thanks for that. It was the Ancestry entry that I had found and wondered if the original images were out there somewhere? Jan On 07/06/2012 14:33, Mel Smith wrote: > Jan > > I haven't looked at the Family Search entry so don't know what is there. > Ancestry have info as follows from extracted Parish Records - no image > > Text: Michael Rocket, of Deal, Kent, serjt, 1st Regt Foot Guards, s. m.,& > Elizh Hester, of St. James', Bury St. Edmunds, s. w., at same. 05 Aug 1805. > Book: 12.The Hearth Tax. Charles 2nd. > Collection: Suffolk: Sudbury - Marriage Licences, 1782-1814 > > Mel Smith > Whitby, Ontario, Canada > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Jan Rockett > Sent: June 6, 2012 4:40 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SFK-UK] Bury St Edmunds marriage > > I have found a marriage in Bury of Michael Rockett, bachelor of Deal, Kent > and Elizabeth Hester. They married 5 August 1805./ I wondered if the images > are available like the Norfolk images on Familysearch as i am trying to find > details of my Thomas Rockett who has, until now, been a mystery. > I am tracing the above marriage and couple as they may be the answer to my > mystery and may even be his parents, but who can tell?! > > Jan > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Jan I haven't looked at the Family Search entry so don't know what is there. Ancestry have info as follows from extracted Parish Records - no image Text: Michael Rocket, of Deal, Kent, serjt, 1st Regt Foot Guards, s. m., & Elizh Hester, of St. James', Bury St. Edmunds, s. w., at same. 05 Aug 1805. Book: 12.The Hearth Tax. Charles 2nd. Collection: Suffolk: Sudbury - Marriage Licences, 1782-1814 Mel Smith Whitby, Ontario, Canada -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jan Rockett Sent: June 6, 2012 4:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SFK-UK] Bury St Edmunds marriage I have found a marriage in Bury of Michael Rockett, bachelor of Deal, Kent and Elizabeth Hester. They married 5 August 1805./ I wondered if the images are available like the Norfolk images on Familysearch as i am trying to find details of my Thomas Rockett who has, until now, been a mystery. I am tracing the above marriage and couple as they may be the answer to my mystery and may even be his parents, but who can tell?! Jan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello I'm hoping someone out there might be able to help? A distant relative of mine has been trying for years to locate where her direct ancestor was born? The family were based in Suffolk and my relative's trawled as many registers as she could to locate him. His father and mother William Hadenham and Christiana Goddard came from Heveningham, Suffolk. William born in 1728 and buried in 1798 (both events in Heveningham), Christiana born in 1721 in Heveningham but being buried in 1811 in Brampton, Suffolk. John Hadenham, the person I seek, was married to Elizabeth Penneville, widowed. They settled down in Worlingham where they brought up their family We think John was born around 1775, but where? If you have John in your tree and you have this info, please get in touch? You will make my 85 year old relation very happy if you do! The surname could be any number of variants including Hadingham, Hadnum etc Thanks David

I have found a marriage in Bury of Michael Rockett, bachelor of Deal, Kent and Elizabeth Hester. They married 5 August 1805./ I wondered if the images are available like the Norfolk images on Familysearch as i am trying to find details of my Thomas Rockett who has, until now, been a mystery. I am tracing the above marriage and couple as they may be the answer to my mystery and may even be his parents, but who can tell?! Jan

I have an Ann Fairs born in Brent Eley in 1727 Ken -------------------------------------------------- From: "John Phillips" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 4:40 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] Faiers family > Correction!!!!! > > I have now found her marriage licence allegation. She was born 1727ish! > > Thanks > > John > > > ________________________________ > From: John Phillips <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2012, 16:25 > Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] Faiers family > > Hi all > > I'm looking for Martha Faiers "of Brent Eleigh" who married John Petley at > Lavenham in 1755. She was probably born around 1735. I suspect that she > may be the Martha who was baptised at Felsham in 1736, daughter of Samuel > and Martha Haiward, who was born at Lavenham 1706. There were Fayers at > Monks Eleigh which may explain the reference. Any help would be gratefully > received. > > Many thanks > > John > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I suspect it will be single woman Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 06/06/2012 17:42, Chris Armstrong wrote: > Can anyone tell me what the intials s-w mean in the entry below. I am assuming that Elizabeth Dalton was a spinster but the w is making me think she might have been a widow? The parish is Wigton in Cumberland to make it even more confusing! > > MARTINDALE Joseph batch aged 26 marr Elisabeth Dalton s-w aged 23 > both of this psh by licence 1779Mar21 (Wigton

Can anyone tell me what the intials s-w mean in the entry below.  I am assuming that Elizabeth Dalton was a spinster but the w is making me think she might have been a widow?  The parish is Wigton in Cumberland to make it even more confusing!   MARTINDALE Joseph batch aged 26 marr Elisabeth Dalton s-w aged 23 both of this psh by licence 1779Mar21 (Wigton

Hi Janine I have many Fayers/Faiers etc in my tree. My gg grandmother was Elizabeth Fayers bap 1835 Milden. The family were farmers and millers, though obviously sometimes appeared on census as Ag Lab. Mine came from Bildestone area, but Samuel Fayers and Charlotte Warsp(?) despite both being noted as coming from Bricet, were married at Barham. My gg grandmother's sister Julia Fayers and brother Daniel were at school at Claydon in the 1851, whilst my gg herself married my gg grandfather William Dawson who owned a windmill at Rushmere St Andrews, just down the road. Do you have more details about Henry and William? Regards Phil How

Correction!!!!!   I have now found her marriage licence allegation. She was born 1727ish!   Thanks   John ________________________________ From: John Phillips <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2012, 16:25 Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] Faiers family Hi all   I'm looking for Martha Faiers "of Brent Eleigh" who married John Petley at Lavenham in 1755. She was probably born around 1735. I suspect that she may be the Martha who was baptised at Felsham in 1736, daughter of Samuel and Martha Haiward, who was born at Lavenham 1706. There were Fayers at Monks Eleigh which may explain the reference. Any help would be gratefully received.   Many thanks   John ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all   I'm looking for Martha Faiers "of Brent Eleigh" who married John Petley at Lavenham in 1755. She was probably born around 1735. I suspect that she may be the Martha who was baptised at Felsham in 1736, daughter of Samuel and Martha Haiward, who was born at Lavenham 1706. There were Fayers at Monks Eleigh which may explain the reference. Any help would be gratefully received.   Many thanks   John

Hi Dorothy Since ages are often as flexible as spellings, I wonder whether your ancestor could have been the daughter of John and Elizabeth RELTON who was baptized at Cavendish on 10 April 1763 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J7HW-FXS). David Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 11:26:08 +0100 From: Dorothy Robinson <[email protected]> Hi, I am researching my THOMPSON family from Cavendish. If anyone has any information on this family I would be most grateful. The lady  ELIZABETH RULTON born abt 1770 is causing me the most trouble at the moment. She is my 5x great grandmother and I am unable to find her origins. She married my 5 x great grandfather THOMAS THOMPSON  18th November 1790 in Cavendish but although I have searched extensively online and on Suffolk discs,  I have drawn a blank. Does anyone out there have access to Cavendish church records and if so would they be so kind to have a look for me? I would be so grateful. ELIZABETH died and THOMAS married MARY GOLDING also of Cavendish, in 1798 at Cavendish church. They had 7 children together. regards Dorothy

Hi Janine and any other Faiers family historians ... just to tell you that William Bransby Faiers, born in Hadleigh in 1791, married in Hadleigh in 1816, was a schoolmaster in Long Melford from around 1818 until at least 1841, after which he returned to Hadleigh, but was in Ipswich in 1854. He was quite prominent in Melford for some years, if anyone wants to know more about his Melford years, contact me. Lyn B Would anyone have an idea where I could find some information on Shrubland Park in Barham Ipswich. I have googled a fair amount about ownership etc, but I have an old postcard of Shrubland found in my Great Grandfathers correspondence, which has hand written on it : "Shrubland Park Beautiful Estate designed by William Fraiers for Sir William Middleton now belonging to Lady De Laumaurez, Maze 12 ft of Box" Thank you in advance Janine ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ingrid No, sorry this doesn't sound like him. Janine -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ingrid billings Sent: Tuesday, 5 June 2012 10:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] Faiers family Hi Janine This is a silly question but did he die in 1871 in Lavenham? My husband has some Faiers in his line. Ingrid -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Janine Fisher Sent: 05 June 2012 11:38 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SFK-UK] Shrubland Park Hi List Would anyone have an idea where I could find some information on Shrubland Park in Barham Ipswich. I have googled a fair amount about ownership etc, but I have an old postcard of Shrubland found in my Great Grandfathers correspondence, which has hand written on it : "Shrubland Park Beautiful Estate designed by William Fraiers for Sir William Middleton now belonging to Lady De Laumaurez, Maze 12 ft of Box" As I said I can google info about who owned Shrubland and that it was designed by James Pain and that the gardens were designed by Sir Charles Barry etc, but would there be records of gardeners at the estate or who worked there around 1850? My ancestors were Faiers living in Barham on the 1851 census and I wondered if Willliam Faiers may have been a gardener there. Would the SRO have records of this type? Thank you in advance Janine ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2433/5045 - Release Date: 06/04/12

Thanks Nivard Yes they are my Fayers, Faiers, Fairs, Fraiers, various spellings exist. The Henry Fayers, Ag Labourer on the 1851 census in Barham is my GG Grandfather interestingly he is listed on his daughters marriage cert in 1863 as deceased gardener and on his death certificate in 1854 as Gardener. His father was William Fairs, labourer from Claydon. I will contact SRO, thank you again for your reply. Janine -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: Tuesday, 5 June 2012 9:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] Shrubland Park Hi Janine The best people to ask would be the records office themselves Staff records being a purely private matter at the time you can only hope that any records if kept at all are lodged with the records office but there was nothing compelling them to do so Does it still survive? if so and the records office can't help, try the present owners, its possible for these things to still be in private hands and be passed down Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) PS neither William FRAIERS or FAIERS comes up in Barham, the nearest I see is some FAYERS is that your family? If so they are Ag Labs not gardeners > Would anyone have an idea where I could find some information on Shrubland > Park in Barham Ipswich. I have googled a fair amount about ownership etc, > but I have an old postcard of Shrubland found in my Great Grandfathers > correspondence, which has hand written on it : > > "Shrubland Park Beautiful Estate designed by William Fraiers for Sir William > Middleton now belonging to Lady De Laumaurez, Maze 12 ft of Box" > > As I said I can google info about who owned Shrubland and that it was > designed by James Pain and that the gardens were designed by Sir Charles > Barry etc, but would there be records of gardeners at the estate or who > worked there around 1850? My ancestors were Faiers living in Barham on the > 1851 census and I wondered if Willliam Faiers may have been a gardener > there. Would the SRO have records of this type? > > > Janine ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2433/5045 - Release Date: 06/04/12

Hi List Would anyone have an idea where I could find some information on Shrubland Park in Barham Ipswich. I have googled a fair amount about ownership etc, but I have an old postcard of Shrubland found in my Great Grandfathers correspondence, which has hand written on it : "Shrubland Park Beautiful Estate designed by William Fraiers for Sir William Middleton now belonging to Lady De Laumaurez, Maze 12 ft of Box" As I said I can google info about who owned Shrubland and that it was designed by James Pain and that the gardens were designed by Sir Charles Barry etc, but would there be records of gardeners at the estate or who worked there around 1850? My ancestors were Faiers living in Barham on the 1851 census and I wondered if Willliam Faiers may have been a gardener there. Would the SRO have records of this type? Thank you in advance Janine

Yes it is still there, I drive past sometimes on my way to Copdock area. The De Saumarez family sold up in 2006. Very popular venue for motorcycle scrambles. Pat ... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janine Fisher" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 11:37 AM Subject: [SFK-UK] Shrubland Park > Hi List > > > > Would anyone have an idea where I could find some information on > Shrubland > Park in Barham Ipswich. I have googled a fair amount about ownership > etc, > but I have an old postcard of Shrubland found in my Great Grandfathers > correspondence, which has hand written on it : > > > > "Shrubland Park Beautiful Estate designed by William Fraiers for Sir > William > Middleton now belonging to Lady De Laumaurez, Maze 12 ft of Box" > > > > As I said I can google info about who owned Shrubland and that it was > designed by James Pain and that the gardens were designed by Sir Charles > Barry etc, but would there be records of gardeners at the estate or who > worked there around 1850? My ancestors were Faiers living in Barham on > the > 1851 census and I wondered if Willliam Faiers may have been a gardener > there. Would the SRO have records of this type? > > > > Thank you in advance > > Janine