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    1. Re: [SFK-UK] Halsted
    2. Patricia Bridges
    3. Hello Paul, Would this be a request for Halstead in Essex? Essex records can be found online at http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/ Regards, Pat ... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Luddington" <[email protected]> > Hi all > I am hoping someone might be able to help? I am looking to find out if > one of mine, who I have found out was vicar of Halsted in 1648 till his > death in 1670, a Theophilus Luddington, had any family there? > Would anyone have the records for the time to have a look-up for me, or > were would I find them? > Thank you for your time. > Regards > Paul luddington

    08/07/2012 03:53:47
    1. [SFK-UK] Halsted
    2. Paul Luddington
    3. Hi all I am hoping someone might be able to help? I am looking to find out if one of mine, who I have found out was vicar of Halsted in 1648 till his death in 1670, a Theophilus Luddington, had any family there? Would anyone have the records for the time to have a look-up for me, or were would I find them? Thank you for your time. Regards Paul luddington

    08/07/2012 03:34:00
    1. [SFK-UK] Halsted
    2. Paul Luddington
    3. Hi all I am hoping someone might be able to help? I am looking to find out if one of mine, who I have found out was vicar of Halsted in 1648 till his death in 1670, a Theophilus Luddington, had any family there? Would anyone have the records for the time to have a look-up for me, or were would I find them? Thank you for your time. Regards Paul luddington

    08/06/2012 11:22:18
    1. Re: [SFK-UK] ordinary agricultural labourer
    2. G May
    3. Thank you Mick and Nigel. Glad there are people out there willing to help explain this stuff. Denise On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:41 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dans un e-mail daté du 01/08/2012 08:57:19 W. Europe Daylight Time, > [email protected] a écrit : > > Does anyone know what this means in 1901 census as opposed to > "agricultural > labourer" in other censuses? > > > > Hello Denise, > There is no difference what so ever, just a good ole ag lab. > > Regards > Mick > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    08/06/2012 11:16:20
    1. Re: [SFK-UK] What was the reason people left Suffolk in 1630's
    2. Ruth Dunlap
    3. Pete wrote: "...........Never disregard any lead...no matter how small you think it is." Yes! We are like detectives, following each and every clue, making deductions, looking for supporting evidence. The more details we gather and keep in mind, including history, the better we can put together what we find and can fit into the picture. I sometimes call myself "Sherlock Holmes" (and do a "happy dance" - really more a shuffle) when I have eventually found and identified people. Ruth USA

    08/06/2012 06:03:49
    1. Re: [SFK-UK] Sheila Hadgraft
    2. Patricia Bridges
    3. Hi Bob, Paula is not currently subscribed, will PM her details off list to you. Pat ... ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 5:30 PM Subject: [SFK-UK] Sheila Hadgraft > Sorry everyone, i had a seniors moment when i sent my query this morning. > I believe it should have read Paula Hadgraft. If she is on the list > please get in touch. > > Bob

    08/06/2012 03:41:53
    1. Re: [SFK-UK] Sheila Hadgraft
    2. K Finch
    3. If not you can find her on facebook Ken -------------------------------------------------- From: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 5:30 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [SFK-UK] Sheila Hadgraft > Sorry everyone, i had a seniors moment when i sent my query this morning. > I believe it should have read Paula Hadgraft. If she is on the list please > get in touch. > > Bob > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/05/2012 03:03:31
    1. Re: [SFK-UK] Sheila Hadgraft
    2. Sorry Ken, i do not use Facebook Bob -----Original Message----- From: K Finch Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 4:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] Sheila Hadgraft If not you can find her on facebook Ken -------------------------------------------------- From: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 5:30 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [SFK-UK] Sheila Hadgraft > Sorry everyone, i had a seniors moment when i sent my query this morning. > I believe it should have read Paula Hadgraft. If she is on the list please > get in touch. > > Bob > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/05/2012 10:08:29
    1. [SFK-UK] UNDERWOOD, HALLS AND NORMAN surnames
    2. Frances Bedford
    3. Hello everyone I'm new to this particular list, and just wondered whether anyone was also researching the UNDERWOOD, HALLS and possibly NORMAN families. I have CHRISTOPHER UNDERWOOD, bpt. 31 Jul 1774, Barrow, Suffolk, marrying ABIGAIL HALLS b.c.1771 of Denham, Suffolk, in 1792, Denham. Their daughter SARAH UNDERWOOD married ROBERT NORMAN, about whom I know absolutely nothing but presume he was also Suffolk-born. SARAH and ROBERT NORMAN settled in north London/Essex border, where they raised their family. The UNDERWOODs were mostly butchers, whereas the HALL(S) appear to have been farmers, but ABIGAIL's line were all baptised at Denham Hall - a former castle, no longer in existence, according to google. Perhaps their farms were on Denham Hall's estate. I would love to hear from anyone with names in common. Best wishes Frances Bedford

    08/05/2012 07:13:16
    1. [SFK-UK] Sheila Hadgraft
    2. Sorry everyone, i had a seniors moment when i sent my query this morning. I believe it should have read Paula Hadgraft. If she is on the list please get in touch. Bob

    08/05/2012 06:30:09
    1. Re: [SFK-UK] Bally surname
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ShirleyBally10 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/1872.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Percy Bally was my husbands uncle born Bath 1897 died 1950 Ipswich, married to Lily Bird born 1898 died 1974 in Ipswich. Regards Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/05/2012 05:31:53
    1. [SFK-UK] Sheila Hadgraft
    2. Good morning everyone, Could anyone please tell me if Sheila Hadgraft is still on this list or has anyone heard from her? Does she have a new email address? Bob

    08/05/2012 05:13:20
    1. Re: [SFK-UK] What was the reason people left Suffolk in 1630's
    2. Dans un e-mail daté du 05/08/2012 01:26:18 W. Europe Daylight Time, [email protected] a écrit : What was he doing in Australia? Probably had a free passage, given by H. M. Government, along with many others who didn't adide by the laws of the day. Regards, Mick

    08/04/2012 11:10:17
    1. Re: [SFK-UK] What was the reason people left Suffolk in 1630's
    2. Peter
    3. May I reply to this message. My GGG Grandfathers brother...one Samuel NEWSON vanished from the UK...when it came to 1851 census. Just by chance I found a a very odd reference to someone with the same name unfortunately passing away in a mining accident in Australia.birth place and birth time matched ..odd for a poor Walton, Suffolk agricultural labourer. What was he doing in Australia? After obtaing the records from Australia...it proved to be same person I'm still on the case...10 years later...but yes...poor agricultural people from Suffolk did go and try to achieve their dreams........My distant ancester was to leave a Suffolk farm and go searching for gold. It cost him his life... We all dream. Never disregard any lead...no matter how small you think it is. Pete -----Original Message----- From: Giles Colchester Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 11:37 PM To: [email protected] ; [email protected] Subject: [SFK-UK] What was the reason people left Suffolk in 1630's Different persons left Suffolk for different reasons, just like today. Because so many of the records that have survived have a religious background, it is possible that this has been overstated as a cause. Certainly members of my family who went across the pond, did so for economic reasons - trading. What is also interesting, is that the traffic was two ways and they did sometimes return. Sometimes land was bought in America without going there. Just like now, some emigrants probably had every intention of returning to their country of origin once they made their fortune, but that is not how things worked out. And some will also have returned as emigration was not a success. So in conclusion, there were all sorts of reasons for going - and for coming back. In terms of economics in Suffolk in the 1630s, the woollen industry was on a downer, there were recurrent outbreaks of plague, and there was civil unrest. By 1635, taxes were being increased such as ship money which was demanded annually from 1635. Religion may have come into it, as Bishop Matthew Wren of Norwich (appointed 1635) was a supporter of Archbishop Laud (appointed 1633) were high church and popish. But the date you are talking about is prior to this by a year or two, so I would suggest that this was less of an issue in Suffolk which (generalising completely) was relatively protestant in outlook and a decade later were for the parliamentary side. In the book A History of Suffolk, by David Diamond and Peter Northeast, they only mention that 650 persons left Suffolk to New England, mainly during the period 1629-1638. As many again came from Norfolk and Essex. The main driver was economics, as wages were low - or at least that is what Winthrop claimed. Religious reasons were greater by the end of the 1630s - and then there was the civil war by the 1640s. There are some shipping returns for this early period, such as the various swearing of certificates of religious conformity which was often required for such travels. I suspect that for the America's these have been fully checked out by NEHGS, so it is probably worthwhile checking their excellent records. However I have not tried researching these sources. Wishing you every success in your researches Giles Colchester, Researching COLCHESTER family, any spelling, any time, any place And PACKARD in Suffolk Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 11:23:45 -0400 (EDT) From: [email protected] Subject: [SFK-UK] What was the reason people left Suffolk in 1630's To: [email protected] Was it religion, hard times, etc? My Smith relatives supposedly came to US in 1632 and settled in Massachusetts. The Hunts were also from Suffolk area as was the Governor of Massachusetts. Is there a list some place of the people who left England or are the only records the ones of people who arrived in US. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/04/2012 06:25:57
    1. [SFK-UK] What was the reason people left Suffolk in 1630's
    2. Giles Colchester
    3. Different persons left Suffolk for different reasons, just like today. Because so many of the records that have survived have a religious background, it is possible that this has been overstated as a cause. Certainly members of my family who went across the pond, did so for economic reasons - trading. What is also interesting, is that the traffic was two ways and they did sometimes return. Sometimes land was bought in America without going there. Just like now, some emigrants probably had every intention of returning to their country of origin once they made their fortune, but that is not how things worked out. And some will also have returned as emigration was not a success. So in conclusion, there were all sorts of reasons for going - and for coming back. In terms of economics in Suffolk in the 1630s, the woollen industry was on a downer, there were recurrent outbreaks of plague, and there was civil unrest. By 1635, taxes were being increased such as ship money which was demanded annually from 1635. Religion may have come into it, as Bishop Matthew Wren of Norwich (appointed 1635) was a supporter of Archbishop Laud (appointed 1633) were high church and popish. But the date you are talking about is prior to this by a year or two, so I would suggest that this was less of an issue in Suffolk which (generalising completely) was relatively protestant in outlook and a decade later were for the parliamentary side. In the book A History of Suffolk, by David Diamond and Peter Northeast, they only mention that 650 persons left Suffolk to New England, mainly during the period 1629-1638. As many again came from Norfolk and Essex. The main driver was economics, as wages were low - or at least that is what Winthrop claimed. Religious reasons were greater by the end of the 1630s - and then there was the civil war by the 1640s. There are some shipping returns for this early period, such as the various swearing of certificates of religious conformity which was often required for such travels. I suspect that for the America's these have been fully checked out by NEHGS, so it is probably worthwhile checking their excellent records. However I have not tried researching these sources. Wishing you every success in your researches Giles Colchester, Researching COLCHESTER family, any spelling, any time, any place And PACKARD in Suffolk Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 11:23:45 -0400 (EDT) From: [email protected] Subject: [SFK-UK] What was the reason people left Suffolk in 1630's To: [email protected] Was it religion, hard times, etc? My Smith relatives supposedly came to US in 1632 and settled in Massachusetts. The Hunts were also from Suffolk area as was the Governor of Massachusetts. Is there a list some place of the people who left England or are the only records the ones of people who arrived in US.

    08/04/2012 05:37:30
    1. [SFK-UK] Emigration to Australia circular
    2. May I also have a copy please. Carol

    08/04/2012 01:58:10
    1. Re: [SFK-UK] to Anne Gentleman Re: Emigration to Australia Circular
    2. Elizabeth Walker
    3. Good afternoon Anne, I would also like a copy of the Emigration circular, please. My Marjorams, father Robert, son William, from Bredfield, both came here to New South Wales as convicts, but I have noticed in the South Australian list, there are many Marjoram families who have migrated to that State, and it appears there may have been something similar here in New South Wales, as there are a few families with that surname in the Lithgow/Bathurst area, apart from my own ancestors. Many thanks in advance, Elizabeth Walker Lake Macquarie. NSW On 3/08/2012 2:09 PM, Ruth Dunlap wrote: > I would also like a copy, please! Thank you, Anne, for offering to share this bit of history! > Ruth > [email protected] > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

    08/03/2012 09:51:58
    1. [SFK-UK] What was the reason people left Suffolk in 1630's
    2. Was it religion, hard times, etc? My Smith relatives supposedly came to US in 1632 and settled in Massachusetts. The Hunts were also from Suffolk area as was the Governor of Massachusetts. Is there a list some place of the people who left England or are the only records the ones of people who arrived in US.

    08/03/2012 05:23:45
    1. Re: [SFK-UK] to Anne Gentleman Re: Emigration to Australia Circular
    2. Newbolts BT
    3. Please may I have a copy? Shirley [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Dunlap" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 5:09 AM Subject: [SFK-UK] to Anne Gentleman Re: Emigration to Australia Circular >I would also like a copy, please! Thank you, Anne, for offering to share >this bit of history! > Ruth > [email protected] > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/03/2012 03:39:37
    1. Re: [SFK-UK] to Anne Gentleman Re: Emigration to Australia Circular
    2. Jan Rockett
    3. I too would love a copy please? Jan -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Walker Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 6:51 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] to Anne Gentleman Re: Emigration to Australia Circular Good afternoon Anne, I would also like a copy of the Emigration circular, please. My Marjorams, father Robert, son William, from Bredfield, both came here to New South Wales as convicts, but I have noticed in the South Australian list, there are many Marjoram families who have migrated to that State, and it appears there may have been something similar here in New South Wales, as there are a few families with that surname in the Lithgow/Bathurst area, apart from my own ancestors. Many thanks in advance, Elizabeth Walker Lake Macquarie. NSW On 3/08/2012 2:09 PM, Ruth Dunlap wrote: > I would also like a copy, please! Thank you, Anne, for offering to share > this bit of history! > Ruth > [email protected] > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/03/2012 02:25:10