Hi Paula, I have uploaded all the Baptisms, Marriages and Burials for CLEMENCE/CLEMENTS to the Debenham Website. I don't think that your Ann is amongst them, but at least it should help you rule Debenham in/out. Go to the "Transcribed Source Records" Page and follow the links. Suzie Morley Suffolk, England Web: www.debenhamfamilyhistory.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paula Hadgraft Sent: 08 September 2012 07:43 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] Ann Clements b. 1760 Wetheringsett - help needed please Hi Ken, I've checked on a2a for to see if there are any settlement certificates listed, but none that I could see for an Ann Clements. Also my Ann Clemence had an illegitimate daughter Frances Taylor Clements in 1781 in Ipswich, 5 years before she married John Hadgraft. I have also searched for a bastardy bond on a2a as well, but found nothing. Yeah, I don't think the one in Haverhill is my Ann either. I have quite a few ancestors who have moved from around the Debenham area to Ipswich, so unless I find another baptism for an Ann Clements for around 1759, I think this might be her. Now to just confirm the baptism at Wetheringsett and try and establish a connection, LOL. Paula On 8 September 2012 06:35, K Finch <[email protected]> wrote: > I would have serious doubts about the Haverhill birth it makes no > sense for them moving to Ipswich. Wetheringsett maybe has anyone > checked settlement papers for Ann? > > > Ken > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Paula Hadgraft" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 2:43 PM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] Ann Clements b. 1760 Wetheringsett - help needed > please > >> Hi Giles, >> >> Thanks for your reply. I know all about alternative spellings, LOL. >> You wouldn't believe how many I've come across for my surname >> Hadgraft. I think there was something like a dozen I've counted so >> far. :) >> >> My problem with my Ann Clemence is that although she married in >> Ipswich, she doesn't appear to have been born there. I know that >> there are quite a few Clements families around Debenham and Ipswich, >> however there are a lot of Clements burials in Ipswich for people >> that weren't born there. I've also discovered on the IGI that there >> is an Ann Clements b. 1758 in Haverhill. Although the names of >> parents for this Ann Clements in Haverhill don't appear anywhere in >> her descendants, but the Ann supposedly born in Wetheringsett to >> Henry and Ann do. I know that you can't really just go by this as not >> all children named there kids after their parents, but it was a >> common practise at this time. >> >> At the moment I want to confirm that there is a baptism for Ann >> Clements at Wetheringsett and then try and track down where her >> siblings went to and see if I can find a clue that way. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Paula >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anybody have access to monumental inscriptions for Long Melford. I am looking for a burial of possibly a Louisa May SMITH or a Kate SMITH wife of Charles SMITH possibly in the 1960's or earlier.The headstone is of a rornish stone as Charles SMITH came from Cornwall,he's not buried there as far as we know. Any help would be appreciated quite willing to do look up in Norfolk in return. Regards Jean > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > >

Hi again I have spent time today working my way back through these Clements using Familysearch and Ancestry but no Anns. Sorry Linda Hi everyone Putting forward my "Clements" living in Suffolk albeit born a little later. To date I haven't found parents or siblings for Elijah. Elijah Clements Born abt. 1827 Dennington He married Sarah Kemp Dec Q. 1848, Hoxne District. Children; Samuel b. abt. 1849, Laxfield Mary b. abt. 1850, Laxfield Elijah b. abt. 1858, Dennington Linda B.C. Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Michael, I was just looking through my database and realised that I do have a load of Clements ancestors from Essex. Mainly around Good Easter, Roxwell and Writtle area. Going back to: William Clements b. abt 1610 who married Alice Skinner on 30 Mar 1635 at Writtle. It's a fair way from Dedham I know. Let me know who you have managed to get back to so far and I'll keep an eye out while looking for my own? Paula On 8 September 2012 13:35, michael john abbott <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello > > I do not know if it is of any help but there was a CLEMMENTS family in Essex > and Eliza married into my ABBOTT family in Dedham Essex in 1829 and I have > her family backto 1766. > > Mike Abbott > Researching ABBOTT, CLEMENTS, LOTT, CRANE in Essex,Suffolk, London and Kent > and Williams in Kent, London and Hampshire > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi everyone Putting forward my "Clements" living in Suffolk albeit born a little later. To date I haven't found parents or siblings for Elijah. Elijah Clements Born abt. 1827 Dennington He married Sarah Kemp Dec Q. 1848, Hoxne District. Children; Samuel b. abt. 1849, Laxfield Mary b. abt. 1850, Laxfield Elijah b. abt. 1858, Dennington Linda B.C. Canada

Thank you ever so much Ken. That is great :) Just goes to show you can't always go by someone else's research. Hugs, Paula On 8 September 2012 22:06, K Finch <[email protected]> wrote: > The marriage was in Thorndon on 5 Dec 1859 but Henry was from Wetheringsett > per Suffolk Marriage index > > Ken > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Peter J Richardson" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 12:13 PM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] Ann Clements b. 1760 Wetheringsett - help needed > please > >> Hello Paula, >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Paula Hadgraft" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 9:15 AM >> Subject: [SFK-UK] Ann Clements b. 1760 Wetheringsett - help needed please >> >> >>> I am looking for a baptism of: >>> >>> Anne Clements, dau of Henry & Anne, supposedly baptised 28 Feb 1760 >>> (could also be listed as Anne Holmes I guess as she appears to be >>> illegitimate) >> >> Baptisms at Wetheringsett >> 28/2/1760 Anne dau of Henry & Anne CLEMENTS >> 13/4/1762 Mary dau of Henry & Anne CLEMENTS >> 6/1/1763 Henry son of Henry & Anne CLEMENTS >> 5/11/1764 Sarah dau of Charles & Sarah CLEMENS >> 8/4/1765 Sarah dau of Henry & Ann CLEMENS >> >> Burial at Wetheringsett >> 5/12/1758 Anne wife of William CLEMENTS. >> >>> and also the marriage of: >>> >>> Henry Clements & Ann Holmes in 1766 at Wetheringsett? (note this year >>> was taken from another researchers information so could be incorrect) >> >> Marriage not found, though I did notice Charles married as Charles >> CLEMENCE >> in 1762. >> >> Bury Record Office have Boyds Index for Suffolk on microfilm, so there is >> an >> avenue there for investigation on a future visit. >> >> Regards >> Peter >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Peter, That is AWESOME!!! Thank you ever so much. I am so grateful. Hopefully I can prove that this is my Ann. Fingers crossed, LOL. If you ever need any help let me know. :) Hugs, Paula On 8 September 2012 21:13, Peter J Richardson <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Paula, > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paula Hadgraft" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 9:15 AM > Subject: [SFK-UK] Ann Clements b. 1760 Wetheringsett - help needed please > > >> I am looking for a baptism of: >> >> Anne Clements, dau of Henry & Anne, supposedly baptised 28 Feb 1760 >> (could also be listed as Anne Holmes I guess as she appears to be >> illegitimate) > > Baptisms at Wetheringsett > 28/2/1760 Anne dau of Henry & Anne CLEMENTS > 13/4/1762 Mary dau of Henry & Anne CLEMENTS > 6/1/1763 Henry son of Henry & Anne CLEMENTS > 5/11/1764 Sarah dau of Charles & Sarah CLEMENS > 8/4/1765 Sarah dau of Henry & Ann CLEMENS > > Burial at Wetheringsett > 5/12/1758 Anne wife of William CLEMENTS. > >> and also the marriage of: >> >> Henry Clements & Ann Holmes in 1766 at Wetheringsett? (note this year >> was taken from another researchers information so could be incorrect) > > Marriage not found, though I did notice Charles married as Charles CLEMENCE > in 1762. > > Bury Record Office have Boyds Index for Suffolk on microfilm, so there is an > avenue there for investigation on a future visit. > > Regards > Peter > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

OH WOW!! That would be wonderful Ken. Thank you so much. I've just been through and checked all of the early Clements bmb's in Ipswich and come to the conclusion that the other Clements in Ipswich that were born around the 1750's-1760's, namely Edward, John and Roger Clements were the sons of Roger Clements and his wife Elizabeth of Hitcham. According to the Cosford Database, Roger & Elizabeth didn't have a daughter Ann at all. So at least I've pretty much ruled them out. :) Paula On 8 September 2012 18:18, K Finch <[email protected]> wrote: > If I remember next time I am in the record office I will have a look in the > parish chest it will be interesting to see as St Mary Quay is one of the > riverside churches no doubt open today for the heritage weekend. > > Ken > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Paula Hadgraft" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 7:42 AM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] Ann Clements b. 1760 Wetheringsett - help needed > please > >> Hi Ken, >> >> I've checked on a2a for to see if there are any settlement >> certificates listed, but none that I could see for an Ann Clements. >> Also my Ann Clemence had an illegitimate daughter Frances Taylor >> Clements in 1781 in Ipswich, 5 years before she married John Hadgraft. >> I have also searched for a bastardy bond on a2a as well, but found >> nothing. >> >> Yeah, I don't think the one in Haverhill is my Ann either. I have >> quite a few ancestors who have moved from around the Debenham area to >> Ipswich, so unless I find another baptism for an Ann Clements for >> around 1759, I think this might be her. Now to just confirm the >> baptism at Wetheringsett and try and establish a connection, LOL. >> >> Paula >> >> On 8 September 2012 06:35, K Finch <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I would have serious doubts about the Haverhill birth it makes no sense >>> for >>> them moving to Ipswich. Wetheringsett maybe has anyone checked settlement >>> papers for Ann? >>> >>> >>> Ken >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mike, Thanks for letting me know. If you find an Ann Clements born around 1758-1760 in your research can you let me know. I don't think she would have come from Essex, but you can never tell with how much they moved around. Paula On 8 September 2012 13:35, michael john abbott <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello > > I do not know if it is of any help but there was a CLEMMENTS family in Essex > and Eliza married into my ABBOTT family in Dedham Essex in 1829 and I have > her family backto 1766. > > Mike Abbott > Researching ABBOTT, CLEMENTS, LOTT, CRANE in Essex,Suffolk, London and Kent > and Williams in Kent, London and Hampshire > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ken, I've checked on a2a for to see if there are any settlement certificates listed, but none that I could see for an Ann Clements. Also my Ann Clemence had an illegitimate daughter Frances Taylor Clements in 1781 in Ipswich, 5 years before she married John Hadgraft. I have also searched for a bastardy bond on a2a as well, but found nothing. Yeah, I don't think the one in Haverhill is my Ann either. I have quite a few ancestors who have moved from around the Debenham area to Ipswich, so unless I find another baptism for an Ann Clements for around 1759, I think this might be her. Now to just confirm the baptism at Wetheringsett and try and establish a connection, LOL. Paula On 8 September 2012 06:35, K Finch <[email protected]> wrote: > I would have serious doubts about the Haverhill birth it makes no sense for > them moving to Ipswich. Wetheringsett maybe has anyone checked settlement > papers for Ann? > > > Ken > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Paula Hadgraft" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 2:43 PM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] Ann Clements b. 1760 Wetheringsett - help needed > please > >> Hi Giles, >> >> Thanks for your reply. I know all about alternative spellings, LOL. >> You wouldn't believe how many I've come across for my surname >> Hadgraft. I think there was something like a dozen I've counted so >> far. :) >> >> My problem with my Ann Clemence is that although she married in >> Ipswich, she doesn't appear to have been born there. I know that there >> are quite a few Clements families around Debenham and Ipswich, however >> there are a lot of Clements burials in Ipswich for people that weren't >> born there. I've also discovered on the IGI that there is an Ann >> Clements b. 1758 in Haverhill. Although the names of parents for this >> Ann Clements in Haverhill don't appear anywhere in her descendants, >> but the Ann supposedly born in Wetheringsett to Henry and Ann do. I >> know that you can't really just go by this as not all children named >> there kids after their parents, but it was a common practise at this >> time. >> >> At the moment I want to confirm that there is a baptism for Ann >> Clements at Wetheringsett and then try and track down where her >> siblings went to and see if I can find a clue that way. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Paula >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The marriage was in Thorndon on 5 Dec 1859 but Henry was from Wetheringsett per Suffolk Marriage index Ken -------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter J Richardson" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 12:13 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] Ann Clements b. 1760 Wetheringsett - help needed please > Hello Paula, > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paula Hadgraft" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 9:15 AM > Subject: [SFK-UK] Ann Clements b. 1760 Wetheringsett - help needed please > > >> I am looking for a baptism of: >> >> Anne Clements, dau of Henry & Anne, supposedly baptised 28 Feb 1760 >> (could also be listed as Anne Holmes I guess as she appears to be >> illegitimate) > > Baptisms at Wetheringsett > 28/2/1760 Anne dau of Henry & Anne CLEMENTS > 13/4/1762 Mary dau of Henry & Anne CLEMENTS > 6/1/1763 Henry son of Henry & Anne CLEMENTS > 5/11/1764 Sarah dau of Charles & Sarah CLEMENS > 8/4/1765 Sarah dau of Henry & Ann CLEMENS > > Burial at Wetheringsett > 5/12/1758 Anne wife of William CLEMENTS. > >> and also the marriage of: >> >> Henry Clements & Ann Holmes in 1766 at Wetheringsett? (note this year >> was taken from another researchers information so could be incorrect) > > Marriage not found, though I did notice Charles married as Charles > CLEMENCE > in 1762. > > Bury Record Office have Boyds Index for Suffolk on microfilm, so there is > an > avenue there for investigation on a future visit. > > Regards > Peter > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone know when civil ceremony for marriage started? I have checked the usual churches used by this family and have come up with nothing. The marriage took place in 1898. I have found the marriage in BMDs but cannot locate it in church records. Knowing a date when churches were no longer the only place to be married would probably help determine the course of my investigations. Denise, Australia

Hello Paula, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula Hadgraft" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 9:15 AM Subject: [SFK-UK] Ann Clements b. 1760 Wetheringsett - help needed please > I am looking for a baptism of: > > Anne Clements, dau of Henry & Anne, supposedly baptised 28 Feb 1760 > (could also be listed as Anne Holmes I guess as she appears to be > illegitimate) Baptisms at Wetheringsett 28/2/1760 Anne dau of Henry & Anne CLEMENTS 13/4/1762 Mary dau of Henry & Anne CLEMENTS 6/1/1763 Henry son of Henry & Anne CLEMENTS 5/11/1764 Sarah dau of Charles & Sarah CLEMENS 8/4/1765 Sarah dau of Henry & Ann CLEMENS Burial at Wetheringsett 5/12/1758 Anne wife of William CLEMENTS. > and also the marriage of: > > Henry Clements & Ann Holmes in 1766 at Wetheringsett? (note this year > was taken from another researchers information so could be incorrect) Marriage not found, though I did notice Charles married as Charles CLEMENCE in 1762. Bury Record Office have Boyds Index for Suffolk on microfilm, so there is an avenue there for investigation on a future visit. Regards Peter

Hello I do not know if it is of any help but there was a CLEMMENTS family in Essex and Eliza married into my ABBOTT family in Dedham Essex in 1829 and I have her family backto 1766. Mike Abbott Researching ABBOTT, CLEMENTS, LOTT, CRANE in Essex,Suffolk, London and Kent and Williams in Kent, London and Hampshire

If I remember next time I am in the record office I will have a look in the parish chest it will be interesting to see as St Mary Quay is one of the riverside churches no doubt open today for the heritage weekend. Ken -------------------------------------------------- From: "Paula Hadgraft" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 7:42 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] Ann Clements b. 1760 Wetheringsett - help needed please > Hi Ken, > > I've checked on a2a for to see if there are any settlement > certificates listed, but none that I could see for an Ann Clements. > Also my Ann Clemence had an illegitimate daughter Frances Taylor > Clements in 1781 in Ipswich, 5 years before she married John Hadgraft. > I have also searched for a bastardy bond on a2a as well, but found > nothing. > > Yeah, I don't think the one in Haverhill is my Ann either. I have > quite a few ancestors who have moved from around the Debenham area to > Ipswich, so unless I find another baptism for an Ann Clements for > around 1759, I think this might be her. Now to just confirm the > baptism at Wetheringsett and try and establish a connection, LOL. > > Paula > > On 8 September 2012 06:35, K Finch <[email protected]> wrote: >> I would have serious doubts about the Haverhill birth it makes no sense >> for >> them moving to Ipswich. Wetheringsett maybe has anyone checked settlement >> papers for Ann? >> >> >> Ken >> >> --------------------------------------------------

Easiest way is to order certificate. will give you all the info you need. Order direct from the registrar general online. They are the lowest price.and quickest. Honor ________________________________ From: G May <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, 8 September 2012, 3:19 Subject: [SFK-UK] civil marriage Does anyone know when civil ceremony for marriage started?  I have checked the usual churches used by this family and have come up with nothing.  The marriage took place in 1898.  I have found the marriage in BMDs but cannot locate it in church records.  Knowing a date when churches were no longer the only place to be married would probably help determine the course of my investigations. Denise, Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Denise For the context of your enquiry it would be from the 1836 marriage Act but from the start of Civil Registration in mid 1837 I know its stating the obvious but if you obtain the certificate it would tell you where they married Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 08/09/2012 03:19, G May wrote: > Does anyone know when civil ceremony for marriage started? I have > checked the usual churches used by this family and have come up with > nothing. The marriage took place in 1898. I have found the marriage in > BMDs but cannot locate it in church records. Knowing a date when churches > were no longer the only place to be married would probably help determine > the course of my investigations. > Denise, Australia

Denise Civil ceremonies were possible from 1837 so it is possible that the marriage you are seeking was not in a church. However there are usually numerous religious establishments where the marriage could have taken place within the Registration District, and some records may still be held by the relative church. The quicker way to establish the place of marriage is to apply for a copy of the marriage certificate, although I appreciate that this will incur a cost which you may not be willing to pay. If you post the names of the parties involved then someone may have already found the answer! Brian Does anyone know when civil ceremony for marriage started? I have checked the usual churches used by this family and have come up with nothing. The marriage took place in 1898. I have found the marriage in BMDs but cannot locate it in church records. Knowing a date when churches were no longer the only place to be married would probably help determine the course of my investigations. Denise, Australia

Hi Giles, Thanks for your reply. I know all about alternative spellings, LOL. You wouldn't believe how many I've come across for my surname Hadgraft. I think there was something like a dozen I've counted so far. :) My problem with my Ann Clemence is that although she married in Ipswich, she doesn't appear to have been born there. I know that there are quite a few Clements families around Debenham and Ipswich, however there are a lot of Clements burials in Ipswich for people that weren't born there. I've also discovered on the IGI that there is an Ann Clements b. 1758 in Haverhill. Although the names of parents for this Ann Clements in Haverhill don't appear anywhere in her descendants, but the Ann supposedly born in Wetheringsett to Henry and Ann do. I know that you can't really just go by this as not all children named there kids after their parents, but it was a common practise at this time. At the moment I want to confirm that there is a baptism for Ann Clements at Wetheringsett and then try and track down where her siblings went to and see if I can find a clue that way. Thank you, Paula On 6 September 2012 23:57, Giles Colchester <[email protected]> wrote: > The name Clemence is an alternative spelling for Clements. Spelling wasn’t > really consistent until the early 1900s when the Oxford dictionary became > relatively well distributed. Up to then spelling was phonetic and in the > local accent. And the earlier the date, the more that statement is true. > Thus it is a very reasonable hypothesis that Clemence and Clements are the > same person. Some where I have a copy of a will where my surname is spelt > three different ways in the same will. > > > > Wishing you every success in your researches > > Giles Colchester, > > Researching COLCHESTER family, any spelling, any time, any place > > And PACKARD in Suffolk > > > > Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 18:15:52 +1000 > > From: Paula Hadgraft <[email protected]> > > Subject: [SFK-UK] Ann Clements b. 1760 Wetheringsett - help needed please > > To: [email protected] > > <snip> > > I am hoping that this Ann Clements could be the same Ann Clemence b. > > c1759 that married my ancestor John Hadgraft on 25 Jun 1786 in St. > > Mary at Quay, Ipswich. > > <snip> > > Paula Hadgraft > >

I would have serious doubts about the Haverhill birth it makes no sense for them moving to Ipswich. Wetheringsett maybe has anyone checked settlement papers for Ann? Ken -------------------------------------------------- From: "Paula Hadgraft" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 2:43 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SFK-UK] Ann Clements b. 1760 Wetheringsett - help needed please > Hi Giles, > > Thanks for your reply. I know all about alternative spellings, LOL. > You wouldn't believe how many I've come across for my surname > Hadgraft. I think there was something like a dozen I've counted so > far. :) > > My problem with my Ann Clemence is that although she married in > Ipswich, she doesn't appear to have been born there. I know that there > are quite a few Clements families around Debenham and Ipswich, however > there are a lot of Clements burials in Ipswich for people that weren't > born there. I've also discovered on the IGI that there is an Ann > Clements b. 1758 in Haverhill. Although the names of parents for this > Ann Clements in Haverhill don't appear anywhere in her descendants, > but the Ann supposedly born in Wetheringsett to Henry and Ann do. I > know that you can't really just go by this as not all children named > there kids after their parents, but it was a common practise at this > time. > > At the moment I want to confirm that there is a baptism for Ann > Clements at Wetheringsett and then try and track down where her > siblings went to and see if I can find a clue that way. > > Thank you, > > Paula > > >