Hi Brenda, I have a transcript of baptisms for Chelsworth and the only Susannah Lister that was baptised around this time that I can see is the following: 1 Dec 1809 Susannah Lister, dau of Thomas & Jemima, late Marsh Although, I think there maybe some major errors in this transcript I have, it was sent to me by someone else and looking at the IGI I have discovered some discrepancies with this entry. On the IGI it states she was baptised the 9 Nov 1809 and born 15 Nov 1808 and that her mother's maiden name was Peacock. So as I said I don't think this transcript I have is very accurate. I'm sorry after all of that, that I couldn't be of more help. If you would like me to send you the entries for Lister I have then let me know, but as I said I'm not sure that the data is entirely accurate. Hugs, Paula On 7 October 2012 15:17, Brenda Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > I have found a reference to the baptism of Susannah LISTER for 3 July 1808 > at Chelmsworth giving her birthday as 8 June 1808. > > Her parents were given as Francis & Susan LISTER nee STILL. I have not > been able to find any parish records online to be able to verify these > records. > > I would greatly appreciate it if there is anybody who is able to check > these records for me. > > Thanks. > Brenda Jones > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Welcome back, Michael ! Hope you are well and raring to go, now :) It sounds like you have the inspiration, at least ;) I remember your story. I too, still around, but haven't done much on the family tree, as I was stuck in every direction ... until recently I have eventually got the proof I needed to prove my gggrandfather was one and the same as a NOTTS born lad, and came to Australia as a Convict. My first Convict !!! Only took me 36 years to find him, but at the "instinct point" in about 1997 I followed this guy form Notts back to the 1400s, and now I know it IS my family, not "I'll trace it just in case ..." So ... moral of the story .... NEVER give up ! I have also just recently been aided by some lovely Suffolk Listers, Patricia BRIDGES, Carolyn BOON and Helen CATCHPOLE (there is that name again, Michael) and they have enabled me to get a break on my Suffolk ancestry again, so look out for some more posts from me, too, I hope ! Cheers, Deb. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Outlaw Sent: Sunday, 7 October 2012 9:21 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SFK-UK] Dutchmen in Lowestoft: John PELLS, falconer. I return to the list after a long absence imposed by illness and I send warm greetings to all listers and especially to anyone who may remember me. Long-term members with long memories may remember that in April 2007 I posted a question about Dutchmen in Lowestoft, since it seemed that my 3xgreat grandmother, Mary MILES, was left at the altar by a certain John PELLS, alias Jan PELTZ/PEELS. The banns had been called three times in the summer of 1812 at St Peter, Gunton, near Lowestoft, but the marriage had never taken place. Two months later my 2x great grandfather, James MILES, was born out of wedlock. <snipped> I apologize for celebrating my return to the list with such a long post: I promise to be more succinct in future. Best wishes to all Michael OUTLAW Shanklin, isle of Wight ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have Susannah Lister born 8th June 1808, Brettenham. baptised 3 July 1808, Brettenham. Her parents were Susan Still and Francis Lister.She died about 1844.Patricia > From: [email protected] > Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 17:17:03 +1300 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SFK-UK] Susannah LISTER > > Hi, > I have found a reference to the baptism of Susannah LISTER for 3 July 1808 at Chelmsworth giving her birthday as 8 June 1808. > > Her parents were given as Francis & Susan LISTER nee STILL. I have not been able to find any parish records online to be able to verify these records. > > I would greatly appreciate it if there is anybody who is able to check these records for me. > > Thanks. > Brenda Jones > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I return to the list after a long absence imposed by illness and I send warm greetings to all listers and especially to anyone who may remember me. Long-term members with long memories may remember that in April 2007 I posted a question about Dutchmen in Lowestoft, since it seemed that my 3xgreat grandmother, Mary MILES, was left at the altar by a certain John PELLS, alias Jan PELTZ/PEELS. The banns had been called three times in the summer of 1812 at St Peter, Gunton, near Lowestoft, but the marriage had never taken place. Two months later my 2x great grandfather, James MILES, was born out of wedlock. Subsequently I discovered that a John PELTZ had married Ann CATCHPOLE apparently at Lowestoft in Nov 1813 and again, a fortnight later, at Gunton. They had two sons and a daughter, John Catchpole PELTZ, Cornelius Catchpole PELTZ and Esther PELTZ. Later again I found John Catchpole PELLS in the 1861 census living at Feltwell in Norfolk. His occupation was listed as falconer. I thought listers might like to know that I have recently been contacted by a descendant of John PELLS who advised me to look for John on the internet. Lo and behold, I discover that he was a famous falconer, who worked for various members of the aristocracy, and was responsible for establishing the 'Dutch school of falconry' in England. More important, for me at least, was the news that his father, Jan PEELS, was also a falconer, born at Valkenwaards, in North Brabant, Netherlands, who came to Lowestoft and worked as falconer for John Dawson DOWNES Esq of Gunton Old Hall. As I mentioned in my original post five years ago, my mother, rest her soul, had spoken often of a family tradition of Dutch blood in the family but I had never been able to find evidence of it. Of course, I have no firm evidence now, but I retain hope, like Mr Micawber, that 'something will turn up'. I have no idea what happened to prevent that wedding in 1812, but I am now more inclined to believe that he is my 3X great grandfather. Perhaps he had to go off somewhere just before the wedding, perhaps even back to Holland, and perhaps by the time he came back Mary had had the child and died (I haven't been able to find any record of her after the birth of her son, James). Perhaps Jan took James into his own care and brought him up with his own sons by Ann Catchpole; perhaps that's how my James met Mary Ann Catchpole whom he later married. Only a miracle will ever solve these problems, but it is fascinating to speculate. I have told this long story partly because I am too excited to keep it to myself and partly as an encouragement to 'newish' family historians who may be up against a brick wall. One never knows when evidence will materialize and this is especially true as more and more records, of all kinds, are becoming available on the internet. Only six weeks ago, I was pointed to a will which enabled me to take my OUTLAW line back another five generations and more than a hundred years, but that's a story for the Norfolk list. I apologize for celebrating my return to the list with such a long post: I promise to be more succinct in future. Best wishes to all Michael OUTLAW Shanklin, isle of Wight

From The Ipswich Journal (Ipswich, England ), Saturday, January 11, 1800; Issue 3498.  To be SOLD by PRIVATE CONTRACT,A Valuable FARM, situate in Combs and Finborough, in Suffolk, comprising a farm house, with convenient outbuildings, and 108 acres of land, now in the occupation of Mr. Robt. JARROLD .Particulars may be had by applying to Messrs. REDE and SMITH , Beccles.  

From The Ipswich Journal (Ipswich, England ), Saturday, January 11, 1800; Issue 3498.  To be SOLD by AUCTION By JAMES LAWRANCE,On Thursday, the 23rd of January, 1800,At Six o'clock in the Evening,At the Bell, in St. Peter's Parish, Ipswich,A Freehold Messuage or Tenement, with the Yard, garden, and appurtenances, situate near the Bell aforesaid, and in the occupation of Mr. Robert BARRELL .

From The Ipswich Journal (Ipswich, England ), Saturday, January 11, 1800; Issue 3498.  To be SOLD by AUCTION  By ROPER and DOUGHTY,on Thursday next, Jan. 16.The remaining Part of the Household Furniture of Mr. WILLIAM CANDLER ,schoolmaster, in St. Mathew's parish, Ipswich; consisting of 20 bedsteads with furniture and bedding, bed and table linen, a mangle; seasoned iron bound beer casks, 3 stone cisterns, etc.  Sale to begin at Eleven o'clock.

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Thanks, Peter SUFFOLK List Admin. -------------------------------------------------- Re: James Sale & Caroline Pryke of Barrow Suffolk This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: garyjillallison Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/2427.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Kat. My name is Gary in Australia & I am tracing my forebears including Alice Sale(s) who m. Marriage: 19 Mar 1890 St Cuthbert, Lytham, Lancashire, England William Arthur Hardy White - 26 Grocer's assistant Bachelor of Ashton St. Lytham , Lancashire. Alice Sales - 29 Spinster of 20 East Beach Lytham, Lancashire. Groom's Father: Arthur White, Commercial Traveller Bride's Father: James Sales, (deced.) Witness: James Ogden Allen; Annie Southworth Married by Licence by: H. B. Hawkins Notes: No profession [entered for the Bride's Father's occupation. Bride's occupation originally entered as House keeper, then deleted and replaced with No occupation. Bride's house number changed from 21 to 20. A note at the bottom of the page reads] These changes 'No occupation' instead of 'Housekeeper' and at 20 in place of 21 were made by me H. B. Hawkins Vicar in the presence of us W. A. H. White and Alice (Sales) White and at our request on June 28 1890. Witness our signatures [signed] W. A. H. White Alice (Sales) Alice White H. B. H. Register: Marriages 1873 - 1895, Page 111, Entry 222 Source: LDS Film 1470929. The only Alice I can find is Alice Angelina Sale England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 06 Jul 1862 BARROW,SUFFOLK,ENGLAND parents: James Sale, Caroline At the time of her wedding her father was deceased & there is no mention of her mother. I have had trouble finding her & the only one that is close is the Alice born in Suffolk parents James Sale & Caroline Pryke. Just wondering if you have found more since your last posting & I look forward to hearing from you. Regards, Gary. -------------------------------------------------- Re: Henry Elliston b1840 & Mary Ann Prewer This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: heather532012 Surnames: Mudd Elliston Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8229.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have just read your post and think that it might be the answer to a problem that I have been trying to solve although I have no proof. Refering back to the 1861 census I have followed Mary Ann Mudd to this point and then I lost her. I have been through the census for all her siblings and children she is not with any of them and she does not seem to have died. I tried marrying her off to various people but they never seemed quite right. The Death that you found in Sudbury fits perfectly for my Mary Ann as she was born in 1806 and would have been 84 when she died. This means that Mary Ann Mudd could have remarried and become Mary Ann Elliston. Mary Ann Mudd was born in Badley Suffolk in 1806. From the 1881 census Mary Ann Elliston the wife of Henry was born in Badley. I think that Badley has been written as Bradley in the 1871 census. Henry Elliston and Mary Ann Mudd are in the same household in the 1861 census and I guess they later got married. The problem is I can't find a marriage for them, maybe they lied about their ages and never really got married either! The whole of her family seem a bit strange as two of Mary Ann's brothers each marry one of her daughters (uncles marrying nieces must be illegal, I think) and Edwin, (her son in the 1861 census) appears married in the 1871 census but didn't actually marry until 2 years later. I will probably get Mary Ann's Death certificate to see if it is any help. As it is 4 years ago that you posted the query I would be interested to know if you got any further. Maybe you have already found a solution. -------------------------------------------------- Re: Ambrose Farrow - Great Thurlow This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kaysue10 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/2438.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Carol, I am just wondering whether my last emails got through to you as it has been a couple of /few weeks now?? I am very interested in sharing with you as we are both from the same line ... that's definate. Wishes Su. -------------------------------------------------- Re: Ambrose Farrow - Great Thurlow This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: carolsullivan17 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/2438.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Su, I did receive messages. Had a minor computer glitch, but all is well now. I am trying to go through the info you sent and will be responding in detail. Carol -------------------------------------------------- yoxford baptisms This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Peterjones1986 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8842/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for a Baptism for a John William Lockwood, supposingly born in Yoxford. he was born about 1800 to a John Cutts Lockwood & Amelia Anyone help? Many thanks -------------------------------------------------- FORD family Southelmham This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: vickylouford Surnames: FORD Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8843/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I'm wondering if anyone can help me with my research on the above. I am trying to find information regarding my 4 x great grandmother Rachel FORD b:1833. Background: Rachel gave birth to my 3 x great grandfather John Herbert Ford. There is no father listed on the birth certificate. Rachel is daughter to James and Elizabeth Ford (James was a shoemaker in Southelmham). The problem I am having is that Rachel disappears completely in the 1871 and 1881 census. John was born in 1865. I'm also having problems trying to find a death record for Rachel. Rachel re-appears in the 1891 census as a housekeeper for her nephew George in Bungay. My research has been further complicated by the fact that Rachel's elder brother James also gave birth to a daughter Rachel 5 years before hand in 1828! So it's been very easy confusing the two! Any help anyone can provide would be gratefully received. -------------------------------------------------- Elizabeth Gardiner - Monks Eleigh or Chelsworth This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: verona51_1 Surnames: Gardiner, Hazell (Hazle on 1841) Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8844/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello I'm in a pickle with my tree. Others on Ancestry have trees with Elizabeth Gardiner born in Chelsworth in 1810 and baptised in 1811 being the daughter of Robert Gardiner and Susannah Coates. The Elizabeth Gardiner I'm interested in married Robert Hazell in 1833 also in Monk's Eleigh. In all the censuses from 1851 on she gave her birth place as Monk's Eleigh. Is it possible that these two Elizabeths are different people? Does anyone have access to the baptism registers for both parishes to see if there is an Elizabeth Gardiner in each for 1805 to 1815? I'd be delighted if they prove to be the same woman but I'm beginning to have my doubts and I'm not sure why. -------------------------------------------------- Re: Ambrose Farrow - Great Thurlow This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kaysue10 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/2438.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Ok Carol, no problems ... was just a bit worried about the silence as normally people come back within a day or two .. so a couple of weeks is quite a long time. Hope that your PC is better now??? I have a fairly long list of Farrow's et all from various people which I am slowly going through and entering into my tree after confirming the info either myself or through my Dad and Uncle whose mother (my paternal grandmother) was Frances Mary Farrow 1897 - 1994. So depending on how much research you have done and what you have got ... is dependant on how I can help you or not? Hear from you soon. S. -------------------------------------------------- Re: George Bolton, Suffolk, England This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: beverleycarpenter23 Surnames: Bolton Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8530.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi .. Agnes was my grandmother . I have a family tree with lots of information about the sisters. Picture of them all outside the Plough at Blundeston (George was the landlord I think). Trissie later had a big house in Lowestoft and left money to my aunt. Agnes went to Africa to marry and my father was born in Africa. Fascinating! -------------------------------------------------- Re: George Bolton, Suffolk, England This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ams49 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8530.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Beverley, we are related! Harry Bolton was my maternal grandfather. I never knew him. My mother and her twin brother Douglas were separated at birth. I never knew Douglas and know nothing about my mother's family except what I found on ancestry. This is amazing information. Please feel free to contact me at [email protected] if you would like to discuss our relationship further. Thank you so much for posting this. I hope we can talk again very soon. -------------------------------------------------- Re: Elizabeth Gardiner - Monks Eleigh or Chelsworth This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: robesur Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8844.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: According to the transcriptions from the Cosford Database an Elizabeth Gardener (sic) was born in Monks Eleigh and baptised in Chelsworth 24 November 1811, the daughter of a Robert Gardiner and Susanne Coates. She married Robert Hazell in Monks Eleigh 6 July 1833 and was buried in Monks Eleigh 23 Jan 1863. Children attributed to Elizabeth and Robert Hazell were Robert, Robert, George, Susan, Mary Ann, Elizabeth, Eliza, Harriet, Robert and Sarah Ann. -------------------------------------------------- Re: Elizabeth Gardiner - Monks Eleigh or Chelsworth This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: verona51_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8844.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you very much. -------------------------------------------------- Re: Smith This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: angelabishop800 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/349.454.459.1.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Roma, have just had a reply from my cousin in Lavenham, He tells me my Aunty Violet has fond memories of Nellie, who worked for a Mr Brown in his greengrocers shop she also worked in his allotment helping with growing vegetables for his shop which was situated in Hall rd, which is nowadays the car park for the Swan Hotel, Nellie did indeed live on Station Rd, which then became High St, but she moved into a bungalow on Spring St, as she got old, sadley she died only two years ago this christmas at the grand old age of 101, she never married nor had any other children, at the time of your birth my Aunty would have been around 12yrs old and remembered Nellie from that time but never knew she'd had a child, but she says she remembered her arriving in the village so this could've been shortly after your birth. My cousin will take some pics of the areas and I will put them up on my family tree, and make them public for you to access, or if you email me I can send them directly! to your email, [email protected] Im fairly certain that we are connected through the family line of Smith, but as of yet I have to find Nellies parents whom I think could be my GGG grandmothers brother. Regards Angela -------------------------------------------------- Re: Smith This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: suffolkmawther Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/349.454.459.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The Nellie Smith pictured in 'Our Memories' by Lavenham Folk pub 2006 is obviously a different Nellie. Pat ... -------------------------------------------------- Strowger Robert This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mbfallen Surnames: Strowger Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8845/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am the grandaughter of William Strowger born 1887 in South Shields and killed in action 3 Sept 1917. greatfather was George born 1849, married Hannah Davidson, great great grandfather James born 1814 married Elizabeth Cooper Scarlet, gr gr gr grnadfather Robert Strowger (Strougher) married Mary Ling?? -------------------------------------------------- Re: Harriet BULLINGHAM This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: msjjhb1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/1454.1611.1613.1629.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Harriet Bellingham was my paternal grandmother. Married frank welland and gave birth to hubert welland my recently deceased dad. Any relations? Ni�o welland -------------------------------------------------- Re: Smith This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: roma117 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/349.454.459.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Angela, Thank you for the information on Nellie Smith. It is rather sad that I did not contact her before she died. She left me a prayer book which my adopted mother gave me before I left to come to Australia. I thought I was doing the right thing by not chasing up my birth mother. Of course things have changed now and it is considered the thing to do. My adopted family have mostly died and I have been feeling lonely. Family means a lot to me and I guess I was not expecting to find anyone connected to me. Soooo many Smiths. Cheers, Roma. -------------------------------------------------- KING Ipswich This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Grytr Surnames: KING KENWARD Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8846/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Frustrated. Unable to locate birth or mother nor confirm father of brothers ... (A) HENRY DOUGLAS KING (abt 1853-) m (8 Sep 1878) Susannah Hubbard (1856-) father of H D KING noted as WILLIAM at marriage and (B) ARTHUR WEBB KING (Abt 1862 -) m (abt 1886) JULIA ANN MARSHALL (1862-) maternal grandfather of KENWARD. Both HENRY and ARTHUR appear in the census records, 1891, 1901 and 1911 quoting their birth place as SUFFOLK, IPSWICH. These census records confirm details recalled by a living relative so we have the correct census records, marriages and subsequent relatives. This issue has frustrated me now for over two weeks. The relevant KENWARD family tree is a private tree at the request of a living relative. However, if anyone is able to offer genuine assistance, I have permission to make the tree available to them for the purpose. Grytr -------------------------------------------------- Re: KING Ipswich This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lulupat Surnames: King Classification: birth Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sfk.general/8846.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Mis-transcribed birth registration Births Dec 1853 (>99%) THING Henry Douglas Ipswich 4a 464 Purchasing this from the GRO will give you both of his parents --------------------------------------------------

Bob Have sent you John Nunn's email address off list. regards eddie t Message: 3 Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 19:14:54 -0400 From: <[email protected]> Subject: [SFK-UK] Nunn Hello everyone; if John NUNN is on the list could you please contact me. If anyone his his email address could they please contact me. Bob

Don't know if it still works as it is a number of years since I contacted John [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 12:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SFK-UK] Nunn Hello everyone; if John NUNN is on the list could you please contact me. If anyone his his email address could they please contact me. Bob ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would like to thank Eddie Tricker, Pat Bridges and Annette McLean for sending me John’s email address. Although there are 3 emails i will try to make contact with John on each. Thank you to everyone. Bob

Hello everyone; if John NUNN is on the list could you please contact me. If anyone his his email address could they please contact me. Bob

Hi Carol, Apsey Green is on the edge of the town of Fram, I walk there with the dog - or drive through on the way to my sister in law at Kettleburgh. Pat ... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Clarke" <[email protected]> Good Morning, Does anyone have any information on William Potter and his wife Susan who in 1841 and 1851 census were living at Apsey Green Framlingham? Where in Framlingham is or was Apsey Green? These may be my long lost Gt.Gt.Gt.Grandparents, and I would like to welcome them to the fold, or rule them out if they turn out to be another brickwall. Thak you, Carol

Linda, We have a letter-head of Botwood and Egerton motor engineers of Carr Street in Ipswich dated June 12th 1906. Also a photograph of the workshops in Woodbridge Road from around 1905, originally built for the manufacture of carriages, the works were readily adapted to the motor car works. Willliam and Samuel Botwood inherited the coach-building business when their father died in 1896 - right at the beginning of the motor car era. Some further Ipswich references to early motoring firms in Ipswich: 1904 Botwood and Egerton, showrooms and garage Carr Street, and at Woodbridge Road, St John's, Ipswich Alfred Garnham, 34 Woodbridge Road, Ipswich Warren and Company, Cullingham Street, Ipswich 1908 Botwood and Egerton, Ipswich W H Brock and company, 67 St Matthews Street, Ipswich Frederick Canham, St Matthews Street, Great White Horse Hotel Yard and Portman's Road and Princes Street, Ipswich Day and Page, 20 Foundation Stree, Ipswich Algred Garnham, Woodbridge Road, Ipswich Ipswich Motor Company, Princes Street, Ipswich George Kettle, Lower Brook Street, Ipswich Mustard and Whitmore, 95 London Road, Ipswich F Scottorn, 19a Portman's Road, Ipswich Warren and Co., 139 London Road, Ipswich W Warren and Co., Cullingham Road, Ipswich 1912 Botwoods Limited, showrooms and garage Carr Street, and at 484-486 Woodbridge Road, Ipswich Eastern Counties Garage, Crown Street, Ipswich Egertons, 3-5 Northgate Street, Ipswich A F Garnham and Co., Ipswich John Harrison, Tavern Street, Ipswich George Kettle and Co., 24 Lower Brook Street, Ipswich H G Moss and Co., 345 Woodbridge Road, Ipswich G D Smith and Son., 43 Anglesea Road, Ipswich St Georges Motor and Engineering Co Ltd., St Georges Street, Ipswich All of the above information is from, 'Early Country Motoring, cars and motorcycles in Suffolk 1896-1940' by John F Bridges Certainly whilst researching the book, John had contact with the Archivist at Botwoods. Pat ... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda" <[email protected]> > Dear Nivard & Charles, > Thank you so much for expanding my knowledge and giving me something more > to > consider. > I've been overly busy the past week so apologise for not responding > sooner. > Hopefully this coming will be calmer...so I'll have some time to push > further. > The first fall wind storm is scheduled to arrive this evening...it > appears > summer may be over on the West Coast. > Everyone pull out the 'woollies'. > Keep warm > Linda > B.C. > Canada. > > > > > Hi Linda > > There does not appear to be a lot of coachbuilders in and around Ipswich > in that period> > If I remember rightly there were railway carriage manufacturers there?> > Which seems to be backed up by> > In :-> > A Suffolk Bibliography on Ancestry> > Under> > Coachbuilding (p107)> > 5703 Bennet and Sons, merchant coach-and harness-makers and exporters. > Special export Catalogue for 1886 [Ipswich], (1885)> > 5704 Botwood, W.T. and S.E. Ipswich carriage works. Carriage designs. > [Ipswich] (1894)> > Again from Ancestry> > 1911 England Census about William Thomas Botwood > Name: William Thomas Botwood > Age in 1911: 40 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871 > Relation to Head: Head > Gender: Male > Birth Place: Ipswich, Suffolk, England > Civil parish: Ipswich > County/Island: Suffolk > Country: England > Street Address: 163 Woodbridge Road, Ipswich > Occupation: Motor Engineer and Motor Body Builder and Coach Builder > Registration district: Ipswich > Registration District Number: 213 > Sub-registration district: Ipswich Western > ED, institution, or vessel: 13 > Household schedule number: 55 > Piece: 10838 > Household Members: > Name Age > William Thomas Botwood 40 > Mary Botwood 31 > Mary Doris Botwood 8 > Gladys Evelyn Maud Botwood 8 > William Thomas Jordon Botwood 3 > Bernard Gomer Botwood 1 > Gertrude Sea 34 > Florence Kate Plesance 30 > > RG14; Piece: 10838; Schedule Number: 55; . > I am not saying the above is the employer but perhaps worth exploring> > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 24/09/2012 19:16, Linda wrote: >> Hi Everyone >> >> In the 1901 Census, Civil Parish of St. Clement, Ecclesiastical Parish >> of >> St. Barthlomew.living in 59 Tomline Rd., my Grandfather Charles Henry >> Vesey's brother Fred is seen working as a Coachbuilder's Clerk in the >> Carriage Motor Building Trade. By 1911 he was joined by my grandfather I >> presume in that same business, hired also as clerk. It seems they left >> their jobs in the printing business to work at this carriage >> (automotive?) >> business. Was there any one business in Ipswich that might be that early >> company? I'd love to know a name and a little history. >> >> Thanks for any help you can give >> >> Linda >> >> B.C. >> >> Canada

Hi Carol, Here is the following marriage from Framlingham. 1 Jul 1834 William Potter and Susan Whythe, both of Framlingham. (Taken from marriage transcript I have) I don't know where Apsey Green is, so sorry I can't help with that. Take care, Paula Hadgraft Melbourne, Australia On 1 October 2012 20:47, Carol Clarke <[email protected]> wrote: > Good Morning, > Does anyone have any information on William Potter and his wife Susan who > in 1841 and 1851 census were living at Apsey Green Framlingham? Where in > Framlingham is or was Apsey Green? These may be my long lost > Gt.Gt.Gt.Grandparents, and I would like to welcome them to the fold, or > rule them out if they turn out to be another brickwall. > Thak you, > Carol > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi all Does anyone have access to Leiston baptisms? Please  get in touch Many thanks John

Dear Nivard & Charles, Thank you so much for expanding my knowledge and giving me something more to consider. I've been overly busy the past week so apologise for not responding sooner. Hopefully this coming will be calmer...so I'll have some time to push further. The first fall wind storm is scheduled to arrive this evening...it appears summer may be over on the West Coast. Everyone pull out the 'woollies'. Keep warm Linda B.C. Canada. Hi Linda There does not appear to be a lot of coachbuilders in and around Ipswich in that period If I remember rightly there were railway carriage manufacturers there? Which seems to be backed up by In :- A Suffolk Bibliography on Ancestry Under Coachbuilding (p107) 5703 Bennet and Sons, merchant coach-and harness-makers and exporters. Special export Catalogue for 1886 [Ipswich], (1885) 5704 Botwood, W.T. and S.E. Ipswich carriage works. Carriage designs. [Ipswich] (1894) Again from Ancestry 1911 England Census about William Thomas Botwood Name: William Thomas Botwood Age in 1911: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Ipswich, Suffolk, England Civil parish: Ipswich County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street Address: 163 Woodbridge Road, Ipswich Occupation: Motor Engineer and Motor Body Builder and Coach Builder Registration district: Ipswich Registration District Number: 213 Sub-registration district: Ipswich Western ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Household schedule number: 55 Piece: 10838 Household Members: Name Age William Thomas Botwood 40 Mary Botwood 31 Mary Doris Botwood 8 Gladys Evelyn Maud Botwood 8 William Thomas Jordon Botwood 3 Bernard Gomer Botwood 1 Gertrude Sea 34 Florence Kate Plesance 30 RG14; Piece: 10838; Schedule Number: 55; . I am not saying the above is the employer but perhaps worth exploring Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 24/09/2012 19:16, Linda wrote: > Hi Everyone > > In the 1901 Census, Civil Parish of St. Clement, Ecclesiastical Parish of > St. Barthlomew.living in 59 Tomline Rd., my Grandfather Charles Henry > Vesey's brother Fred is seen working as a Coachbuilder's Clerk in the > Carriage Motor Building Trade. By 1911 he was joined by my grandfather I > presume in that same business, hired also as clerk. It seems they left > their jobs in the printing business to work at this carriage (automotive?) > business. Was there any one business in Ipswich that might be that early > company? I'd love to know a name and a little history. > > Thanks for any help you can give > > Linda > > B.C. > > Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Carol If you Google "Apsey Green" (use the quote marks as this will give better results) there is plenty of information about the location. Brian -----Original Message----- From: Carol Clarke Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 11:47 AM Subject: [SFK-UK] WILLIAM POTTER Apsey Green Framlingham Suffolk <snip> Where in Framlingham is or was Apsey Green? <snip>

Good Morning,  Does anyone have any information on William Potter and his wife Susan who in 1841 and 1851 census were living at Apsey Green Framlingham? Where in Framlingham is or  was Apsey Green? These may be my long lost  Gt.Gt.Gt.Grandparents, and I would like to welcome them to the fold, or rule them out if they turn out to be another brickwall. Thak you, Carol

From The Times ( London, England ), Wednesday, Aug. 15, 1883; pg.5; Issue 30899.  CHARGE OF MURDER. An inquest was held at Ipswich yesterday on the body of Lilian Alice Lyons MEEK , the little girl who was murdered the previous evening in that town. Mary Caroline WOODGATE , wife of a labourer, proved that the deceased was her child before her marriage, and that the prisoner Thomas Lyons DAY was its father.  For several days DAY had been loitering near her house, and on Monday he asked her to let him come and see the child.  He said he wanted to say goodbye to it, as he was going away.  She gave him leave to come when her husband was at home, and in the evening he came.  He took the little girl on his knee, talked to her, and kissed her, and then put his hand to her throat and cut it.  Her  husband struggled with DAY , by whom he was stabbed under the right ear.  William WOODGATE , the wounded man, confirmed his wife's evidence, and said that the prisoner asked the child who was her father, and when she said WOODGATE was, he told her she should not call him father again.  The jury found a verdict of  "Wilful murder " against Thomas Lyon DAY.