Hi again! Several have also asked me about the surname of NEFF in the Patriotic Index.. Since there were several STUMPS that also intermarried, here is the list. Ellie ================================================ If you see any patriot that may be yours, you may want to send for a copy of an application that some dear lady used to become a member. They are about $10 each.. but the references are usually very good. When I request a copy, I always ask for the latest copy that has the most information, especially the children listed.. If possible I ask for the child that I descend from.. but that isn't always possible of course.. I am the AOL Online Coordinator for DAR Lookups and have about 13 women working with me to help inquirees find their patriot. We report to the National DAR office and I have a contact in each state to help anyone find a chapter and to help with DAR applications.. If a patriot isn't listed, it doesn't mean he didn't serve, only that no one has gone in on his line.. That may be for you to do!!! <G> The codes are fairly simple, but just in case: a=before or ante b=born c=about or close to d=death m=married p=after (post) PNSR=Pensioner.. PS=patriotic service.. this could mean the patriot fed the troops, kept them in fresh horses, water, or firewood. It could also mean they housed them, took care of their medical needs.. .. ran errands and was a general all-around "Friday" for the Revolutionary cause.. A woman could be listed as patriot too.. such as Martha Washington. She is listed because she had descendants that have become members.. but George isn't listed, because he and Martha didn't have children.. If you have any more questions, happy to help.. here goes: NEFF: Abraham: b a 1725 PA; d p 1792 PA; m Maria (mary_ Hershey, Patriotic Service from PA Benjamin: b 5-16-1734 CT: d 5-25-1806 CT; m. Anna Neff, Pvt from CT Daniel: b 7-1-1763 CT; d p 1-13-1796 VT; m. Silence Bradley; Pvt from CT Henry: b c 1722; d p 11-4-1795 MD; m Hannah _____; Patriotic Service from MD Henry: b c 1730 VA; d a 2-16-1801 VA; m. Elizabeth _____; Patriotic Service from VA Jacob: b 1-16-1761 NJ; d 1-13-1839 NJ; m Fanny Kline; Pvt from NJ PENSIONER!!! Jacob: b 4-3-1726 Switzerland; d 9-3-1793 PA; m. Anna Buser; Pvt from PA John: b 5-6-1746 CT; d a 6-19-`1822 CT; m Sarah Jennings; Pvt from CT Michael: b c 1750 PA; d 1-15-1825 VA; m. Christina Capp; Pvt from PA Oliver: b 9-1-1761 CT; d 12-17-1843 CT; m Betsy Button; Soldier from CT Rudolph: b 9-26-1727 Switzerland; d 2-14-1809 PA; m. Hannah Morse; Capt. from PA THAT'S IT!!! Ellie