In my last message I reported some information re Christopher Stump which was obtained from an LDS Church report from 1995. According to Doris Weaver's record some of this information is incorrect. She has solid evidence that Christopher's first wife was Susannah Schuetz (of Shuts) and Christopher's first 8 children were from this marriage, including the famous Hans Frederick Stump. This information comes from the will of Christopher's father, Johann Georg Stump. Also, the immigration record I found for a Christopher Stump to Schaefferstown, PA in 1741 apparently refers to a different Christopher as Doris has good information that Christopher arrived in the colonies with his parents in 1709/10. I have been researching this line of my genealogy for a very short time, whereas, Doris has been at it for twenty years Gordon W. Pace siriuspace@aol.com

MS JILL A LOWE wrote: > > Could anyone tell me where my ancestor Peter Stump fits into this? I > have Peter as born in 1740 with a brother, Christopher. Peter > married Catherine Widen. One of his sons, Joseph Stump married > Elizabeth Boggess. Any connection here? I'd really appreciate any > help you could give me. Thanks. Jill > (LSZZ88A@prodigy.com) Hi Jill... Where at (State\County) & time period are we talking about ? Jan from Ft. Calhoun, NE

Could anyone tell me where my ancestor Peter Stump fits into this? I have Peter as born in 1740 with a brother, Christopher. Peter married Catherine Widen. One of his sons, Joseph Stump married Elizabeth Boggess. Any connection here? I'd really appreciate any help you could give me. Thanks. Jill (LSZZ88A@prodigy.com)

My records on the ancestry of Christopher Stump come from the LDS Church: His grandfather was Christoph Stumpf, b abt 1640 in Germany, m. H. Johannes Raubling. Only known child was John George Stump, b abt 1670 , Germany, married Elizabeth Raubling on Nov 13, 1699 at "6100 Paranstadt". This is apparently the address of a church in Germany. What city? John George Stump's children were Christopher Stump, Johannes Stump and Michael Stump. An emigration record I saw showed Christopher emigrated to Schaefferstown, PA in 1741. Christopher's children by first wife Margaretha were: Hans Frederick Stump, George Adam, Christopher, Henry, Catherine, Maria, Susanna, Margaret and Magdalene. By his second wife, Anna Margaretha he had Catherine, Juliana, MArgaret, Christopher, Leonhart and Michael. Doris: Can you give me the info of his other two children and his third wife? RMTerry@Prodigy.Net has a lineage of a Hans Stumpf(f) b abt 1600 in Hessen Germany, with son Diterich Stumpff and grandson Hans Peter Stumpff, b abt 1665. I wonder if there is a connection between these families. Gordon W. Pace siriuspace@aol.com

I just joined the list and reveiwed the archives. I filled in some details of my Stump lineage from messages by Christine McNish, R M Terry, Allice Reynolds and Macalyne Fristoe. My ggg grandfather is ALSEY PACE who m. SALLY ALICE STUMP on 8/17/1808. Alsey was killed in the War of 1812 at the Battle of New Orleans in 1815 under the command of his father-in-law Col. HANS FREDERICK STUMP. My records show that HANS FREDERICK STUMP had 7 children and his father, CHRISTOPHER STUMP, b 1695, had 15 children by his two wives. I have more on the ancestry of this CHRISTOPHER STUMP which I will include in my next message. Gordon W. Pace siriuspace@aol.com

Hello List, I am on cloud nine! Just received information that confirms some I already had and adds to it. Have learned for sure that I am not ONLY researching the name STAMPF...but one of that line used the name STUMPF as it was spelled incorrectly on his birth certificate...his offspring continued to spell it STUMPF.....THEREFORE, I am seeking information on the family of Edward Ernest STUMPF(1899-1939) and his wife Eva (SPEARS)STUMPF(1900-1983) of Brooklyn, NY. They had a son named Edward Ernest STUMPF whose wife was RONNI (don't know if first or last name)...and their children were: James STUMPF and Edward STUMPF. Is anyone here searching this line? Have lots of info to share with you cousin! Unless of course, you've been busier than I and can share some with me! Joanie

I'm not of the Brethren faith, but as I was in the Barnhart mailing list today, someone said there is a Brethren Genealogy Mailing List. It's a genealogy and history network sponsored by Fellowship of Brethren Genealogists. For information it says to E-mail: McAdams@udayton.edu Hope this is helpful. Jill (LSZZ88A@prodigy.com)

I just found a great site for Indiana marriages. There were 40 Stump's listed-all married before 1850. Address: www.statelib.lib.in.us/www/indiana/genealogy/mirr.html Good Luck! Jeanne Leita Stump

My what a beautiful name. Thank you for your kind reply and offer of assistance! I was hopeful that Jacob had other relations here in USA. I have not researched his ancestors as yet, and probably need to see where and exactly when he entered US, the ship, etc. Anyway, I will keep on looking, and perhaps there is a researcher or two who have gone before me. Best regards, Peggie LE RENA B STUMP wrote: > > Hi, > I wish I could help you because I really like your research, but my > Stump family was in Ohio in 1800, Kentucky in 1766, and haven't gotten > further back. I hope you the very best of luck. I'll keep your message and > keep you in mind. > LeRena Stump, > Yakima, WA > > Hello STUMP Researchers: > > I am searching for information about Jacob STUMP who was born 1834 in > Germany. > Between 1854 and 1862 he married my great grandmother, Anna Margarethal > 'Turp' MIES > in perhaps Armühla, Rhineprovinz, GER?. > > Their eldest, Elizabeth had 3 brothers and 2 sisters. Her youngest > brother, Henry STUMP was born June 16, 1875, in Armühla, Rhineprovinz, GER according to database being compiled for the area. it is noted therein that all children were born in Armühla. Therefore, assume they immigrated to America after that time and shortly? before they came to St. Mark, KS in 1886. > John served in the German Army before immigrating to America. On his 1918 > Axis Alien Registration, son, John, states he entered the US through the port of New York on the 13th day of May 1889 on the ship, Westerland. After his stint in the German Army. Naturalized 1896. > > Does anyone have any further information? Did other family members immigrate with them or at another time? > > Peggie Born & Bred in KS now in Oceanside, CA > > Descendants of Jacob William Stump > > 1 Jacob William STUMP, b: January 28, 1834 in Kerpen, Kreis Daun, GER, d: > December > 21, 1908 in St. Mark, Sedgwick, KS St. Mark Cath > Anna Margarethal 'Turp' MIES, b: February 28, 1836 in Ahrmuhle, > Rhineprovinz, GER, > m: 1854-1862 in Ahrmuhle, Rhineprovinz, GER Father: Franz MIE, Mother: Anna > REIFFERSCHEID, d: April 29, 1911 in St Mark, Sedgwick, KS > > Elizabeth Ann STUMP, b: May 13, 1863 in Ripsdorf by Blankenheim GER, d: > October 17, > 1937 in Mt Vernon, Reno, KS > +Johannes 'John' Bernard KNOBLAUCH, Jr b: August 01, 1855 in Böehmenkirch, > Geisling, Württmberg, Germany, m: February 09, 1891 in St Mark, Sedgwick, > KS, > Father: Johannes 'Hannes' Bernard/Baptist KNOBLAUCH, Sr, Mother: Josepha > 'Josephine' > MOELLER, d: November 17, 1941 in Colwich, Sedgwick, KS > > Johann Theodore "John" STUMP b: February 02, 1865 in Ahrmule ( ), GER, d: > September > 06, 1930 in St Mark, Sedgwick, KS > +Elizabeth ( ) OSWEILER b: October 26, 1883 in Andale, Sedgwick, KS, m: > 1900-1901 in > Andale, Sedgwick, KS?, Father: Theodore ( ) OSWEILER, S., Mother: Frances > ) RUEHL, > d: June 04, 1954 in St Mark, Sedgwick, KS > Peter Joseph STUMP, b: May 26, 1867 in Ripsdorf by Blankenheim, GER, d: > February 22, > 1921 in St Mark, Sedgwick, Kansas > +Marie 'Mary' STRUNK, b: February 17, 1877 in Borler, ( ), ( ) > Germany, m: > Bef. May 07, 1899 in St Mark, Sedgwick, KS St Mark Cath, Father: Anton () > STRUNK, > Mother: Margaretha (wife of Anton) STRUNK, d: March 03, 1980 in St Mark, > Sedgwick, > KS St Mark Cath > Joseph STUMP I, b: October 25, 1869 in Ahrmuhle, Rhineprovinz, GER, d: > November 17, > 1869 in Ahrmuhle, Rhineprovinz, GER > Anna Margaretha 'Maggie' STUMP b: June 28, 1870 in Rispdorf by Blankenheim, > GER, d: > September 22, 1967 in St Mark, Sedgwick, KS > +Frederick William 'Bill' HEIN I, b: April 01, 1869 in Johnsburg, McHenry, > IL m: > April 28, 1896 in St Mark, Sedgwick, KS, Father: Michael Benjamin HEIN, > Mother: > Elizabeth () HILGER, d: August 09, 1921 in St Mark, Sedgwick, KS > Joseph STUMP II, b: November 08, 1871 in Ahrmuhle, Rhineprovinz, GER, d: > November > 10, 1871 in Ahrmuhle, Rhineprovinz, GER > Magdalena ( ) 'Lena' STUMP, b: March 10, 1873 in Ripsdorf by Blankenheim, > GER, d: > March 19, 1912 in Andale, Sedgwick, KS > +Frederick? ( ) 'Fritz' FREUND, b: August 30, 1869 in ( ), ( ), ( ), m: > 1890-1892 in > ( ), ( ), ( ), Father: Nikolaus "Nick" FREUND, Mother: Katherina ( ) FREIN, > d: > November 30, 1913 in Andale, Sedgwick, KS > Henry ( ) STUMP b: June 16, 1875 in ( ), ( ), ( ), d: September 23, 1935 in > Wichita, Sedgwick, KS > +Theodora 'Dora' HEIN, b: March 09, 1878 in St Mark, Sedgwick, KS, m: April > 30, 1901 > in St Mark, Sedgwick, KS St Mark Cath, Father: Michael Benjamin HEIN, > Mother: > Elizabeth ( ) HILGER, d: November 03, 1934 in St Mark, Sedgwick, KS > > *Another Wife??? of Jacob William Stump: > +Mary GARHART, b: Unknown in ?, m: Unknown in ( ) Father:?, Mother:?, d: > Unknown in > ( ), ( ), ( ) > > -- > Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 16963465 > My Fax Number is: 1-760-721-7689 > Peggie Knoblauch W. Ballard Oceanside, CA

Hello STUMP Researchers: I am searching for information about Jacob STUMP who was born 1834 in Germany. Between 1854 and 1862 he married my great grandmother, Anna Margarethal 'Turp' MIES in perhaps Armühla, Rhineprovinz, GER?. Their eldest, Elizabeth had 3 brothers and 2 sisters. Her youngest brother, Henry STUMP was born June 16, 1875, in Armühla, Rhineprovinz, GER according to database being compiled for the area. it is noted therein that all children were born in Armühla. Therefore, assume they immigrated to America after that time and shortly? before they came to St. Mark, KS in 1886. John served in the German Army before immigrating to America. On his 1918 Axis Alien Registration, son, John, states he entered the US through the port of New York on the 13th day of May 1889 on the ship, Westerland. After his stint in the German Army. Naturalized 1896. Does anyone have any further information? Did other family members immigrate with them or at another time? Peggie B&B in KS Descendants of Jacob William Stump 1 Jacob William STUMP, b: January 28, 1834 in Kerpen, Kreis Daun, GER, d: December 21, 1908 in St. Mark, Sedgwick, KS St. Mark Cath Anna Margarethal 'Turp' MIES, b: February 28, 1836 in Ahrmuhle, Rhineprovinz, GER, m: 1854-1862 in Ahrmuhle, Rhineprovinz, GER Father: Franz MIE, Mother: Anna REIFFERSCHEID, d: April 29, 1911 in St Mark, Sedgwick, KS Elizabeth Ann STUMP, b: May 13, 1863 in Ripsdorf by Blankenheim GER, d: October 17, 1937 in Mt Vernon, Reno, KS +Johannes 'John' Bernard KNOBLAUCH, Jr b: August 01, 1855 in Böehmenkirch, Geisling, Württmberg, Germany, m: February 09, 1891 in St Mark, Sedgwick, KS, Father: Johannes 'Hannes' Bernard/Baptist KNOBLAUCH, Sr, Mother: Josepha 'Josephine' MOELLER, d: November 17, 1941 in Colwich, Sedgwick, KS Johann Theodore "John" STUMP b: February 02, 1865 in Ahrmule ( ), GER, d: September 06, 1930 in St Mark, Sedgwick, KS +Elizabeth ( ) OSWEILER b: October 26, 1883 in Andale, Sedgwick, KS, m: 1900-1901 in Andale, Sedgwick, KS?, Father: Theodore ( ) OSWEILER, S., Mother: Frances ( ) RUEHL, d: June 04, 1954 in St Mark, Sedgwick, KS Peter Joseph STUMP, b: May 26, 1867 in Ripsdorf by Blankenheim, GER, d: February 22, 1921 in St Mark, Sedgwick, Kansas +Marie 'Mary' STRUNK, b: February 17, 1877 in Borler, ( ), ( ) Germany, m: Bef. May 07, 1899 in St Mark, Sedgwick, KS St Mark Cath, Father: Anton () STRUNK, Mother: Margaretha (wife of Anton) STRUNK, d: March 03, 1980 in St Mark, Sedgwick, KS St Mark Cath Joseph STUMP I, b: October 25, 1869 in Ahrmuhle, Rhineprovinz, GER, d: November 17, 1869 in Ahrmuhle, Rhineprovinz, GER Anna Margaretha 'Maggie' STUMP b: June 28, 1870 in Rispdorf by Blankenheim, GER, d: September 22, 1967 in St Mark, Sedgwick, KS +Frederick William 'Bill' HEIN I, b: April 01, 1869 in Johnsburg, McHenry, IL m: April 28, 1896 in St Mark, Sedgwick, KS, Father: Michael Benjamin HEIN, Mother: Elizabeth () HILGER, d: August 09, 1921 in St Mark, Sedgwick, KS Joseph STUMP II, b: November 08, 1871 in Ahrmuhle, Rhineprovinz, GER, d: November 10, 1871 in Ahrmuhle, Rhineprovinz, GER Magdalena ( ) 'Lena' STUMP, b: March 10, 1873 in Ripsdorf by Blankenheim, GER, d: March 19, 1912 in Andale, Sedgwick, KS +Frederick? ( ) 'Fritz' FREUND, b: August 30, 1869 in ( ), ( ), ( ), m: 1890-1892 in ( ), ( ), ( ), Father: Nikolaus "Nick" FREUND, Mother: Katherina ( ) FREIN, d: November 30, 1913 in Andale, Sedgwick, KS Henry ( ) STUMP b: June 16, 1875 in ( ), ( ), ( ), d: September 23, 1935 in Wichita, Sedgwick, KS +Theodora 'Dora' HEIN, b: March 09, 1878 in St Mark, Sedgwick, KS, m: April 30, 1901 in St Mark, Sedgwick, KS St Mark Cath, Father: Michael Benjamin HEIN, Mother: Elizabeth ( ) HILGER, d: November 03, 1934 in St Mark, Sedgwick, KS *Another Wife??? of Jacob William Stump: +Mary GARHART, b: Unknown in ?, m: Unknown in ( ) Father:?, Mother:?, d: Unknown in ( ), ( ), ( ) -- Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 16963465 or, * Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/16963465 (go there and try it!) or, * Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen 16963465@pager.mirabilis.com For downloading ICQ at http://www.icq.com/ For adding similar signatures to your e-mail go to: http://www.icq.com/emailsig.html My Fax Number is: 1-760-721-7689 Peggie Knoblauch W. Ballard

Hello: I am searching for information about Eliza STUMP who was born abt. 1825 in Ohio. On 22 Feb. 1864 she married my gr gr grandfather, George E. WARD in Coshocton Co. Ohio. I don't know if STUMP was her maiden surname or a surname from a previous marriage. Eliza had a sister named Mary A. ESWORTHY. Mary was the widow of John and was living in Muskingum Co. Hopewell Twp. Ohio in 1862. Her children were: Malinda, Mary & Joseph. Does any of this sound familiar to anyone out there? Judy in Iowa

Seeking information on Maria Stump born around 1800 in York County PA or near there. She was the spouse of Abraham ROTH III. Frank McCraw (Manassas VA)

Seeking info on the decendancy John STUMP (1812--1853) of Adams County PA. His wife was Maria ROTH (1818-1887). Frank McCraw (Manassas, VA)

Is anyone researching for Stump in Vermilion Co. Illinois? I have Percilla Stump that md. Tilgman Mcvicker 12-4-1862 in Vermilion Co.ILL. Would anyone have information on this family? Thank you Darla Myler annie@dido.com

STUMP-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Subject: > > STUMP-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 41 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Trip to PA to find STUMP ancestors [Sue Douglas <douglas@ees.eesc.com>] > #2 Re: Trip to PA to find STUMP ances [goodspsm@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu] > #3 Re: Trip to PA to find STUMP ances [Del Templin <del.templin2@sympatic] > #4 Re: Trip to PA to find STUMP ances [Betsy Young <Betsy.Young@oberlin.e] > #5 STUMP, HUFFMAN, MYERS ancestors fr [Mildred Prather <mprather@mail.coi] > #6 STUMP OF VERMILION CO. ILLINOIS ["DARLA" <ANNIE@DIDO.COM>] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from STUMP-D, send a message to > > STUMP-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Trip to PA to find STUMP ancestors > Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 14:47:32 -0400 > From: Sue Douglas <douglas@ees.eesc.com> > To: STUMP-L@rootsweb.com > > Hi List Members, > > I need some advice. I've gathered the information at the > bottom of this list back to my gr gr > grandfather and now I'm stuck. I'm coming to PA in a few > weeks to do some research for birth, > death and marriage records. Should I go to Pittsburgh first > or should I just head for the State Library > > in Harrisburg? What is the best resource for finding Brethren > > records? I appreciate any and all help. Having researched a Brethren family extensively I can easily say you won't find any Brethren records. About the best you might come up with is a list of the members of a congregation from their yearly meeting. You will find no birth, baptism, marriage or burial records like you would normally find in a Lutheran or other church. The Brethren present a real challenge to research. You have to use other records - wills, deeds, census, cemetery, etc. records to piece the family together. You can also hope they join a Lutheran church where you can get better records on them.Bob Givens

Hi Stump Researchers! I have been looking for years for the parents of Margaret STUMP HUFFMAN. Don't know if her birth name was Stump or Huffmann. Anyhow she was born abt 1795 in PA, married George MYERS bef 1818 in PA. In 1828 they were in or near Chambersburg, Franklin Co., PA in 1828 when their daughter Rebecca MYERS was born. They could have been from further east and just passing through on their way to Franklin Co., OH where the family settled soon after that. Anyone hear of her? Mildred Prather Columbia, MO mprather@mail.coin.missouri.edu

I would apprecite hearing the answer to your question - "Where to research STUMPS in PA?" I have Virginia figured out - go to Richmond. I have Ohio figured out - -go to OH Hist Soc in Columbus and -go to the county seat and -go to the appropiate OH Network of American History Research Center OR at least call or write. Each place does have exclusive data. If anyone has a question, I will be happy to expound on the lovely state of Ohio. But I would like to hear about PA. Thanks, Betsy Descendant of Catherine STUMP b.1786, married John Bookwalter in Cambria Co, PA, in 1811.

Hi Sue & List Members: Sue wrote: My STUMP ancestors were probably in this country for generations but I've only gotten back as far as my gr gr grandfather. My family never talked about when my ancestors came to this country but family lore was that my that one of my grandfather's ancestors was "married to an indian squaw." I have heard the same story in my family but have been unable to verify it. My family were mostly Lutheran or Baptist. My Stumpf ancestors came from Ober-Gleen, Hessen (Hesse), Germany and I've traced back to Johannes Conrad Stumpf born about 1745. My GGF Johannes Sylvester STUMPF served in the civil war. b: 10 February 1840 Arnshain, Hessen (Hesse), Germany d: 25 June 1925 Watford, Warwich Twp., Lampton Co., Ontario, Canada married abt 1861 Patterson, New Jersey, USA to Mary Ann EDLER b: 12 May 1847 New Jersey?, USA d: 16 April 1917 Elmira, Woolwich Twp., Waterloo Co., Ontario, Canada. The family seemed to cross the border several times thus I have to search MI, NJ, PA, OH and ON, CAN. Your given names of George, Charles, William, Walter and Henry are also in my tree. Many German families came north from PA to Canada. Have you researched in Waterloo Co.? I am also searching BENDER, BOHN, EDLER, ESCH, GERHARDT, GONTER, HOFFMAN, KERN, MOGK, OPPERTSHAUSER, SCHLEICH, WALTZ, ZIMMERMAN.

Hi Sue, I don't have a lot of STUMPF ancestors but my gt grandmother's sister, Mary Amanda ISLEIB md Almandus/Mandus SMITH (SCHMITT, SCHMIDT) and their dau, Catherine Julia SMITH, md William Donald STUMPF b 1882-d 1925. I'm not sure, but I believe they lived in Hazleton, PA. There is also another STUMPF researcher I've been corresopnding with & I will check with her as she may be of some help. Sandy Goodspeed, Maryland, NY Goodspsm@oneonta.edu Researching: PA- BUIRLEY/BERYLI, EYERLY, HUNSINGER, ISLEIB, KESTER, MOHARTER, NOSS, ROMIC/ROMICH/ROMIG, SAGER, SCHAD, SHELLHAMMER, SMITH (SCHMIDT/SCHMITT), STUMPF Researching: NYS, N. Eng. states, R.I.:BARTHOLOMEW, GARRISON, GILBERT, GOODSPEED, HALL, JOHNSON, PADGETT, STIMPSON/STIMSON, TUCKEY See web page (at bottom) for PADGETT & related families http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/8723 On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, Sue Douglas wrote: > Hi List Members, > I need some advice. I've gathered the information at the bottom of this > list back to my gr gr grandfather and now I'm stuck.... > My STUMP ancestors were probably in this country for generations but I've > only gotten back as far as my gr gr grandfather. My family never talked > about when my ancestors came to this country but family lore was that my > that one of my grandfather's ancestors was "married to an indian squaw." > I have the family Bible, circa 1850, but someone cut out the birth and > death pages probably before 1890. I'm relatively sure that they were > BRETHREN. Someone started writing deaths in the Bible in 1890 and also > tucked a couple of obits, an empty envelope, and an 1828 letter in there too. > So far, based on the death's in the Bible and census records, I have pieced > together the following in the Stump line. > > GEORGE W. STUMP b. 1835 in PA, d. 6-12-1907. He was married to SUSANNA(H) ? > b.about 1840 d. 12-14-1890. The 1880 census shows them living on > Eighteenth Street in Sharpsburg with four children:WILLIAN(M) F. STUMP age > 17 -the "m" on William is crossed out on the census records and a very bold > "n" is written > above, GEORGE THOMAS STUMP age 12, HENRY STUMP age 9, and CHARLES STUMPage 5. > > WILLIAN(M) F. STUMP b. 1864 d. 6-12-1907 in Braddock, PA > married MARY ISABELLA MILLER (shown as "BELLA" in census > records) b. 1865 d. 11/1865 and is shown in the 1900 census > living on Corey Street in Braddock, PA with two sons, WILLIAM > C. STUMP, > b. 6-1886 and WALTER H. STUMP, b. Jan. 1890 and his > brother-in-law, JNO (JOHN) W. MILLER b.8-1870. William F. > and Bella > were still living at 130 Corey in 1920. William F. worked > for "the railroad" and owned several row houses in Braddock. > He was said to be "quite the dapper Dan." > > WALTER H. STUMP b.Jan 1990 d.9-27-1948 married MABEL BEATRICE > > LAUFFER b. 9-1896 , d. 9-24-59. In 1920, lived in what looks > like 114 Comerie or Comerad Avenue in Braddock. The film is > very poor. They moved to Michigan during the depression and > remained here. > > I'm also looking for information on ULYSSES JAMES STUMP who is listed in the > family Bible as Ulysses Grant Stump which I believe is an error. He died in > Cook County Illinois. His obit gave the > following information: > Ulysses James Stump died 9-25-1903 (Born abt. 1865). 38 > years old, not married. His father lived in Allegheny City. > Worked for the Rail Road. Killed in a switching accident on > run to Elsdon. IL. Taken to Krugers Undertaker. Had boarded > with Mr. R.W. Butterfield where he had roomed since 1893. > Remains taken to Englewood, then to Fort Wayne and then to his > home in Allegheny Pennsylvania. His father lived in Allegheny > City and he had 5 brothers and 1 sister in Pennsylvania. > > Please check out my site for additional information: > http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/d/o/u/Sue-A-Douglas/index.html > > I also have an old empty envelope that was addressed to MATTHEW T. KIRK > of Curlsville, Clarion County, PA. The return address was the > Paymaster General's Office, Washington, D.C. and it's dated > October 5 (no year). It was free postage and probably > contained military pay. I have found a Matthew T. Kirk who > died in a military hospital in Virginia during the Civil War. > He's probably my guy but I don't know which side of the family > he fits with - my grandpa Stump or his wife, Mabel Lauffer > Stump. > > I also have an 1828 letter is from JACOB HILES and, again, > I have no idea of it's significance. Jacob may have been an > indentured servant. He sent the letter to MR. WILLIAM MC MILLIN in > Cannonsburg, Washington County, PA. The letter reads as > follows: > October the 2 1828 Shipensburgh Cumberland Co > > Dear sir I take this opportunity of letting you know that I am > in a good state of health and I hope that you are in the > same Dear Sir I am thinking long to hear from you and for to > > know how you are Dear Sir I never knew what it was to make a > > liven before I have worked both day and nighte since I left > you. I think that I can make more tho if I had worked with > you I will send sise dollars more which will make twelve > dollars I have to pay too dollars per week for bording I > am working for a man the name of Robbert Johnston in three > weeks from this date I want to make for Brownsville Dear > Sir I will be home the first of November if I am spared I > need not write any more I will take you as much back as I > have sent you you need not be uneasy about me Dear Sir > I have not time to write Excuse my bad writing for I have > not time Give my best respects to Mrs. W. Mc Millin and > your mother and the rest of the family Mr William McMillin > > Jacob Hiles > > There is also a death listed in the Bible for a CHARLEY MACON > with no date but, based on the order in the Bible, he died > between 1890 and 1903. Again, I have no clue as to who he > was. > > I have noticed that some of the eastern PA Stump families used > the given names of George, Charles, William and Henry as does > my family. Should I be looking at these families closer? If > you have anything that might point me in the right direction, > please let me know. I'm taking a trip to PA and I want > to be barking up the right tree when I get there. (Pun > intended) > Thanks, in advance, for your help. > Sincerely, > Sue Stump Douglas

Hi List Members, I need some advice. I've gathered the information at the bottom of this list back to my gr gr grandfather and now I'm stuck. I'm coming to PA in a few weeks to do some research for birth, death and marriage records. Should I go to Pittsburgh first or should I just head for the State Library in Harrisburg? What is the best resource for finding Brethren records? I appreciate any and all help. My STUMP ancestors were probably in this country for generations but I've only gotten back as far as my gr gr grandfather. My family never talked about when my ancestors came to this country but family lore was that my that one of my grandfather's ancestors was "married to an indian squaw." I have the family Bible, circa 1850, but someone cut out the birth and death pages probably before 1890. I'm relatively sure that they were BRETHREN. Someone started writing deaths in the Bible in 1890 and also tucked a couple of obits, an empty envelope, and an 1828 letter in there too. So far, based on the death's in the Bible and census records, I have pieced together the following in the Stump line. GEORGE W. STUMP b. 1835 in PA, d. 6-12-1907. He was married to SUSANNA(H) ? b.about 1840 d. 12-14-1890. The 1880 census shows them living on Eighteenth Street in Sharpsburg with four children:WILLIAN(M) F. STUMP age 17 -the "m" on William is crossed out on the census records and a very bold "n" is written above , GEORGE THOMAS STUMP age 12, HENRY STUMP age 9, and CHARLES STUMPage 5. WILLIAN(M) F. STUMP b. 1864 d. 6-12-1907 in Braddock, PA married MARY ISABELLA MILLER (shown as "BELLA" in census records) b. 1865 d. 11/1865 and is shown in the 1900 census living on Corey Street in Braddock, PA with two sons, WILLIAM C. STUMP, b. 6-1886 and WALTER H. STUMP, b. Jan. 1890 and his brother-in-law, JNO (JOHN) W. MILLER b.8-1870. William F. and Bella were still living at 130 Corey in 1920. William F. worked for "the railroad" and owned several row houses in Braddock. He was said to be "quite the dapper Dan." WALTER H. STUMP b.Jan 1990 d.9-27-1948 married MABEL BEATRICE LAUFFER b. 9-1896 , d. 9-24-59. In 1920, lived in what looks like 114 Comerie or Comerad Avenue in Braddock. The film is very poor. They moved to Michigan during the depression and remained here. I'm also looking for information on ULYSSES JAMES STUMP who is listed in the family Bible as Ulysses Grant Stump which I believe is an error. He died in Cook County Illinois. His obit gave the following information: Ulysses James Stump died 9-25-1903 (Born abt. 1865). 38 years old, not married. His father lived in Allegheny City. Worked for the Rail Road. Killed in a switching accident on run to Elsdon. IL. Taken to Krugers Undertaker. Had boarded with Mr. R.W. Butterfield where he had roomed since 1893. Remains taken to Englewood, then to Fort Wayne and then to his home in Allegheny Pennsylvania. His father lived in Allegheny City and he had 5 brothers and 1 sister in Pennsylvania. Please check out my site for additional information: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/d/o/u/Sue-A-Douglas/index.html I also have an old empty envelope that was addressed to MATTHEW T. KIRK of Curlsville, Clarion County, PA. The return address was the Paymaster General's Office, Washington, D.C. and it's dated October 5 (no year). It was free postage and probably contained military pay. I have found a Matthew T. Kirk who died in a military hospital in Virginia during the Civil War. He's probably my guy but I don't know which side of the family he fits with - my grandpa Stump or his wife, Mabel Lauffer Stump. I also have an 1828 letter is from JACOB HILES and, again, I have no idea of it's significance. Jacob may have been an indentured servant. He sent the letter to MR. WILLIAM MC MILLIN in Cannonsburg, Washington County, PA. The letter reads as follows: October the 2 1828 Shipensburgh Cumberland Co Dear sir I take this opportunity of letting you know that I am in a good state of health and I hope that you are in the same Dear Sir I am thinking long to hear from you and for to know how you are Dear Sir I never knew what it was to make a liven before I have worked both day and nighte since I left you. I think that I can make more tho if I had worked with you I will send sise dollars more which will make twelve dollars I have to pay too dollars per week for bording I am working for a man the name of Robbert Johnston in three weeks from this date I want to make for Brownsville Dear Sir I will be home the first of November if I am spared I need not write any more I will take you as much back as I have sent you you need not be uneasy about me Dear Sir I have not time to write Excuse my bad writing for I have not time Give my best respects to Mrs. W. Mc Millin and your mother and the rest of the family Mr William McMillin Jacob Hiles There is also a death listed in the Bible for a CHARLEY MACON with no date but, based on the order in the Bible, he died between 1890 and 1903. Again, I have no clue as to who he was. I have noticed that some of the eastern PA Stump families used the given names of George, Charles, William and Henry as does my family. Should I be looking at these families closer? If you have anything that might point me in the right direction, please let me know. I'm taking a trip to PA and I want to be barking up the right tree when I get there. (Pun intended) Thanks, in advance, for your help. Sincerely, Sue Stump Douglas