Hi again! Several have also asked me about the surname of NEFF in the Patriotic Index.. Since there were several STUMPS that also intermarried, here is the list. Ellie ================================================ If you see any patriot that may be yours, you may want to send for a copy of an application that some dear lady used to become a member. They are about $10 each.. but the references are usually very good. When I request a copy, I always ask for the latest copy that has the most information, especially the children listed.. If possible I ask for the child that I descend from.. but that isn't always possible of course.. I am the AOL Online Coordinator for DAR Lookups and have about 13 women working with me to help inquirees find their patriot. We report to the National DAR office and I have a contact in each state to help anyone find a chapter and to help with DAR applications.. If a patriot isn't listed, it doesn't mean he didn't serve, only that no one has gone in on his line.. That may be for you to do!!! <G> The codes are fairly simple, but just in case: a=before or ante b=born c=about or close to d=death m=married p=after (post) PNSR=Pensioner.. PS=patriotic service.. this could mean the patriot fed the troops, kept them in fresh horses, water, or firewood. It could also mean they housed them, took care of their medical needs.. .. ran errands and was a general all-around "Friday" for the Revolutionary cause.. A woman could be listed as patriot too.. such as Martha Washington. She is listed because she had descendants that have become members.. but George isn't listed, because he and Martha didn't have children.. If you have any more questions, happy to help.. here goes: NEFF: Abraham: b a 1725 PA; d p 1792 PA; m Maria (mary_ Hershey, Patriotic Service from PA Benjamin: b 5-16-1734 CT: d 5-25-1806 CT; m. Anna Neff, Pvt from CT Daniel: b 7-1-1763 CT; d p 1-13-1796 VT; m. Silence Bradley; Pvt from CT Henry: b c 1722; d p 11-4-1795 MD; m Hannah _____; Patriotic Service from MD Henry: b c 1730 VA; d a 2-16-1801 VA; m. Elizabeth _____; Patriotic Service from VA Jacob: b 1-16-1761 NJ; d 1-13-1839 NJ; m Fanny Kline; Pvt from NJ PENSIONER!!! Jacob: b 4-3-1726 Switzerland; d 9-3-1793 PA; m. Anna Buser; Pvt from PA John: b 5-6-1746 CT; d a 6-19-`1822 CT; m Sarah Jennings; Pvt from CT Michael: b c 1750 PA; d 1-15-1825 VA; m. Christina Capp; Pvt from PA Oliver: b 9-1-1761 CT; d 12-17-1843 CT; m Betsy Button; Soldier from CT Rudolph: b 9-26-1727 Switzerland; d 2-14-1809 PA; m. Hannah Morse; Capt. from PA THAT'S IT!!! Ellie

Several have asked about sending the SEE patriots to the STUMP list, since so many SEES married STUMPS.. Here is the info I sent last night.. all freshly "cut and pasted" for our group... <G> Ellie Stites Swanger, CO EllieSS@aol.com ====================================================== <<Hi SEE cousins: I am extracting the "SEE" Patriots from the DAR Patriot Index, Vol. 3, c. 1990, p. 2605. If you see any patriot that may be yours, you may want to send for a copy of an application that some dear lady used to become a member. They are about $10 each.. but the references are usually very good. When I request a copy, I always ask for the latest copy that has the most information, especially the children listed.. If possible I ask for the child that I descend from.. but that isn't always possible of course.. I am the AOL Online Coordinator for DAR Lookups and have about 13 women working with me to help inquirees find their patriot. We report to the National DAR office and I have a contact in each state to help anyone find a chapter and to help with DAR applications.. If a patriot isn't listed, it doesn't mean he didn't serve, only that no one has gone in on his line.. That may be for you to do!!! <G> The codes are fairly simple, but just in case: a=before or ante b=born c=about or close to d=death m=married p=after (post) PNSR=Pensioner.. PS=patriotic service.. this could mean the patriot fed the troops, kept them in fresh horses, water, or firewood. It could also mean they housed them, took care of their medical needs.. .. ran errands and was a general all-around "Friday" for the Revolutionary cause.. A woman could be listed as patriot too.. such as Martha Washington. She is listed because she had descendants that have become members.. but George isn't listed, because he and Martha didn't have children.. If you have any more questions, happy to help.. here goes: SEE: Abraham: b 10-1-1753 NY; d 1-4-1813 NY; m. Sarah Storms; Pvt from NY George: b. 1756 VA; d p 1835 MO; m. Martha (Patty) George; Pvt from VA Isaac: b 5-18-1736 NY; d 9-29-1817 NY; m. Sarah Yerks; Pvt from NY John: bpt 4-14-1752 NY; d 6-26-1828 NY; m Rachel Martling; Pvt from NY John: b 1757 VA; d 1836/7 IL; m. Margaret Jarret; Pvt from VA.. He was a pensioner!!!! <NOTE: The fact that he was a pensioner if priceless.. It often includes personal family info.. That record would be available from the Nat'l Archives and Trust Fund (NATF). You can order this record on Form 80, which is now available from a website. Also, many genealogy libraries and Family History Centers have the Form 80.> Michael, Sr: b c 1730 VA; d p 1784 VA; m. Barbara Harness; Patriotic Service from VA Michael, Jr: b. c 1751 VA; d 8- -1791 VA; m. Elizabeth Morris; Soldier from VA ======================== SEE women that married a Patriot.. this is list is far from complete as the book was published in 1986.. but here goes: SEE: Catherine SEE <she was his 2nd wife> - Thomas Boyce of NY.. <He drew a pension until his death, then Catherine drew the pension. Good Info no doubt!!.. His first wife was: Marytye (Mary) Van Wart.> Catrina SEE - William Yerkes of NY Mary SEE - Abraham Williams of NY Susanna (Ream) SEE, <a widow I suppose> ) - John Jacob Myers, Sr. - of PA And one I found today.. not in this index.. was: Elizabeth SEE - Leonard Stump of VA <of my own line>>>

Thanks to Ellie for her great information! I have been sending to the DAR for about two years and never once thought about "asking for the latest copy that has the most information, especially the children listed.. If possible I ask for the child that I descend from.." Sure makes me feel kind of dumb!! There probably has been many, many applications from different descendants and I never once thought about that. A whole new world has opened up!! I am trainable! I recently sent for information and sent $5 for each - wasn't notified of any price changes. This is my ancestor. I was looking for Johannes instead of John! Are there any "cousins" on this list? John: b 2-22-1735 NY; d 9-28-1827 NY; m. Mary Magdalena Howell Freeman; Pvt from NY.. He was a pensioner.. <NOTE: Being a pensioner..this info is usually priceless.. It most often gives personal data.. worth sending for from the NARA.. > Thanks again!! Warm regards, Joyce in Millinocket, Maine

Anyone out there with STUMP's in Roanoke County, Virginia? Am I the only one researching these? Milton F. Stump s/o of Edward H. & Mary E. Stump s/o of William E. Stump born about 1798 s/o Thomas Stump Any info would be greatly appreciated Ann SAGIN1937@aol.com

In a message dated 10/12/1999 9:48:58 PM Mountain Daylight Time, EllieSS@aol.com writes: << Dear Stump cousins.. I would like to also post the list of STUMP women who married Patriots.. This book on the wives of the patriots was published in 1986. I'm sure there have been updates since then, but here goes: STUMP Women who married Patriots: Anna STUMP - Jonathan Guice - he was born in Germany; died in Mississippi, and was a patriot from No. Carolina.. Barbara STUMP - Phineas Cox, b. VA; d. KY; served from VA. He was a pensioner.. Barbara STUMP - John Englehaupt, b. Germany; d. PA; served from PA.. His widow received the pension.. Catharine STUMP - Peter Ryer of PA Catharine STUMP - Leonard Strickler of PA Christina STUMP - Thaddeus Matthew Ramey, he was born in VA; d. in KY; and served from VA Elizabeth STUMP (wife #1) - William Wright of NJ.. (2) Miss ___ Young. Elizabeth STUMP - Jacob Kaufman of PA Elizabeth STUMP - James Thompson, no bpl listed, d. in TN. Served from NC. Johanna STUMP - John Mossholder, b. in Holland; d. in PA and fought from PA Margaret STUMP - Michael Miller, a Fifer, from PA Catherine STUMPFUND - John Brobst of PA.. He was a pensioner... Margaret STUMPH - Jacob Newkirk, b. PA; d KY; Served from PA Esther STUMPS (2nd wife) - Matthew Tucker of VA.. First wife unknown.

Hi STUMP cousins: I am extracting the STUMP Patriots from the DAR Patriot Index, Vol. 3, c. 1990, pp. 2849 - 2850. If you see any patriot that may be yours, you may want to send for a copy of an application that some dear lady used to become a member. They are about $10 each.. but the references are usually very good. When I request a copy, I always ask for the latest copy that has the most information, especially the children listed.. If possible I ask for the child that I descend from.. but that isn't always possible of course.. I am the AOL Online Coordinator for DAR Lookups and have about 13 women working with me to help inquirees find their patriot. We report to the National DAR office and I have a contact in each state to help anyone find a chapter and to help with DAR applications.. If a patriot isn't listed, it doesn't mean he didn't serve, only that no one has gone in on his line.. That may be for you to do!!! <G> The codes are fairly simple, but just in case: b=born d=death m=married c=about or close to PS=patriotic service.. this could mean the patriot fed the troops, kept them in fresh horses, water, or firewood. It could also mean they housed them, took care of their medical needs.. .. ran errands and was a general all-around "Friday" for the Revolutionary cause.. A woman could be listed as patriot too.. such as Martha Washington. She is listed because she had descendants that have become members.. but George isn't listed, because he and Martha didn't have children.. A woman won out!!! PNSR=Pensioner.. a=before or ante p=after (post) FYI - I have one or two STUMP DAR copies that I sent for, but not sure which two they are... I haven't looked at them for a while.. I think it is a LEONARD and MICHAEL.. but I didn't see anything that looked like a match.. but I don't think they are recent applicants.. The newer ones are more complete and require MUCH MORE documentation... If you have any more questions, happy to help.. here goes: STUMP: STUMM: STUMPFF: Adam: b c. 1740 PA; d a 9-20-1805 PA; m. Isabella _____; Pvt. from PA Christopher: b 1720 Germany; d 1778 PA; m. Anna Margaretta _____; Patriotic Service; from PA Conrad: b 3-24-1755 PA; d 9-24-1824 OH; m. Julianna _____; Patriotic Service; from PA Daniel: b 9-9-1761 VA; d 10-4-1832 OH; m. Mary Ramey; Pvt from VA Frederick: b 1723 PA; d a 12-27-1826 TN; m (1) Ann Snevely; (2) Catherine Gingery; Solider and Patriotic Service from No. Carolina George: b. 4-8-1744 VA; d 4-22-1805 VA; m. Elizabeth Wilson; Patriotic Service from VA Henry: b 9- -1731 MD; d 8- -1814 MD; m. Rachel Perkins; Patriotic Service from MD John: b 2-22-1735 NY; d 9-28-1827 NY; m. Mary Magdalena Howell Freeman; Pvt from NY.. He was a pensioner.. <NOTE: Being a pensioner..this info is usually priceless.. It most often gives personal data.. worth sending for from the NARA.. > John: b c 1759; d a 2-23-1833 PA; m. Dorothea _____; Pvt from PA Leonard: b 11-21-1748 VA; d a 2-10-1829 VA; m. Elizabeth See; Patriotic Service from VA Mathias: b 2-24-1734 Germany; d 10-5-1784 PA; m. Margaret _____; Pvt from PA Michael: b c 1744 VA; d a 6-2-1799 VA; m. (1) Sarah Hughes; LCol from VA That's all folks!!!!! There may be other STUMPS that have been approved since the issue of these 3 volumes, but I don't have that info nearby.. Ellie Stites Swanger, CO EllieSS@aol.com

A deed I came across recently, from Montgomery Co, TN shows a 2200 acre parcel of land exchanged hands over the years from Samuel Thornton to Christopher Stump and then to Alsey Pace, the husband of Sally Alice Stump. Alsey was the father of a Christopher Stump Pace. I believe that the above Christopher Stump may have been the Christopher who was the brother of the famous Frederick Stump of Nashville. And I am wondering if Sally Alice could have been this Christopher Stump's daughter. Christopher b 1720 d 1778, spouse unknown, had 3 children that I know of: Leonard b bef. 5/1759, Margaret b 1761 and George b bef. 6/1773. It is believed that Sally Alice Stump was born around 1780, perhaps earlier. Some have shown this Sally (or Sarah) as a daughter of Frederick Stump but I have seen no evidence and she is not mentioned in his will. Does anybody have a clue? Gordon W. Pace

Does anybody know the AZ congressman's given name and what branch of Stumps he might belong to? Just curious. Jan T

John Stump b. 1/6/1797 PA d. 9/17/1858 IN m.12/31/1818 Barbara Summers b. 6/12/1801 PA? children of John & Barbara Stump David Stump b. 10/29/1819 OH m. Catherine Elizabeth ? Nancy Stump b. 6/18/1821 OH m. Charles Huber Samuel Stump b. 6/01/1823 OH m. Rhoda Kelsey Johathan Stump b. 3/12/1825 OH m. Sarah (Bowman?) Elizabeth Bowman, Lorena Chaney Solomon Stump b. 5/4/1827 OH m. Rachel ?? Sara Stump b. 1/31/1829 OH m. Matthias Bowman Levi Stump b. 12/14/1830 OH m. Sarah Ann Musser Jesse Stump b. 9/7/1832 OH m. Martha ?? Anna Stump b. 11/11/1834 OH m. George R. Kistler Henry Stump b. 10/25/ 1836 OH m. Emily A. Tibbott Susannah Stump b. 10/25/1836 OH m. Thomas T. Shaw Mary Stump b. 7/22/1838 OH m. Frederick Huber Caroline Stump b. 8/28/1838 OH m. Robert Fox Joseph Stump b. 10/4/1842 OH never married, died in Civil War Danial Stump b. 8/26/1844 OH I have further information if you are connected to this line, and will be happy to share what I have. If you have any information on any of the line, please contact me. My husband's family descends from Samuel and I am in touch with descendants of two of his siblings. I would also like to start a family page if I can get enough of the family in contact with each other so pictures, etc could be exchanged. Janice Stump 96 Southfork Rd Cody, Wyoming 82414 email: jstump@tritel.net Ph: 307-587-7489 fax: 603-971-5929 "Volunteer of Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnraogk/ "

Thanks A Lot I'm Glad To Know Stumps Are Still Out There. Gloria Powers Husk 114 Arizona Street Carrabelle, Fl. 32322 http://www.gloryway.com http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/u/s/Gloria-J-Husk/ ----- Original Message ----- From: <EllieSS@aol.com> To: <gjhusk@gloryway.com>; <STUMP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 4:33 PM Subject: Re: Getting No Messages STILL HERE.. JUST NO MESSAGES GOING THROUGH I GUESS.. ELLIESS@AOL.COM

Found in the listing of Descendants of Mattheid Riegell in the RIEGEL TO RIGGLE book by Reigle & Riegle: Page 59: #121 Catharine Riegel born abt 1778, PA, married abt 1795, Jonathan Stump, born abt 1775. Children: i. John Stump born abt 1797. ii. Martha Stump born abt 1800, married Abraham Snyder. iii. Jonathan Stump born abt 1802. iv. Catharine Stump born abt 1804, married ?Potts. v. Sarah Stump born abt 1808, married Daniel Hoffman. page 242: #683. Carrie Theresa Riegel born 17 Feb 1863, married 14 Dec 1887, Henry Arthur Stump, born 17 Feb 1863. Henry: In 1923, Henry was a Judge of the Superior Court, Baltimore MD. Children: i. Henry Arthur Stump Jr. born Jul 1889. ii. Anna Stump born Mar 1891. iii. Augustus Herman Stump born 1893. I would love to know if anybody claims either side of this family, since we have both Stumps & Riegels. Jan T

I Was Just Wondering, Has The List Been Unusually Quiet, or Somehow Have I Gotten Unsubscribed? Gloria Powers Husk 114 Arizona Street Carrabelle, Fl. 32322 http://www.gloryway.com http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/u/s/Gloria-J-Husk/

STILL HERE.. JUST NO MESSAGES GOING THROUGH I GUESS.. ELLIESS@AOL.COM

Hi folks, I've been reading some birth records from NY and wrote down some that just jumped out at me as familiar surnames even though I am not researching these particular lines. I thought I'd share the info in case it might help someone. This was Certificate #4634 John STUMPF 6th child of this mother Born: Dec 15, 1870 Mother: Otilia (Mayer) STUMPF Born: Germany Residence: No. 604 Broadway Father: Casper STUMPF Occ: Lager Beer Saloon Born: Germany That's it...hope it helps. Joanie

HAS ANYONE SEEN THIS SITE Noah and John Stumps' Civil War Letters http://www.qtm.net/~cbryant/stump.html Gloria Powers Husk 114 Arizona Street Carrabelle, Fl. 32322 http://www.gloryway.com http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/u/s/Danny-L-Husk/index.html

Hi Folks, I was reading LDS film #1324347 yesterday, NY Kings Co. Births 1870 Cert No. 2456 thru 4840. Found this record that might be of use to someone: Cert No. 4634 Child: John Stumpf 6th child of this mother White Dec 15 1870 Mother: Otilia Stumpf Maiden: Mayer Born: Germany Residence: No. 604 Broadway Father: Casper Stumpf Occu: Lager Beer Saloon Born: Germany I hope this helps someone Joanie

Hi folks, I have a census listing for 617 Humboldt Street, in Brooklyn, NY in the year 1900 for Mathilda STAMPF age 62 and still living with her were her sons August, age 32; Frank, age 29; Edward, age 27 and her daughter Rosie (also seen as Rosa elsewhere), age 24. The men's occupations were "day laborers". Would anyone have these STAMPFS...possibly sometimes known as STUMPF....in their trees? Maybe looking at them as Stumpf would unravel something...but they, so far have clearly been listed as STAMPF everywhere. Joanie

Hi Doris et. al. Stump listers, I posted the info from (my Kansas Kin list). Here it is, again, with the remarks I have had. Please contact Susie directly for further information. I have nothing else at this time, and have not researched any of this to match my Stumps. Thank you, Peggie > Forwarding from another list > > Peggie > > From: Susie Krill <mskrill@gv.net> Thu 7:09 PM > Subject: Stump > To: ks-kin-l@raven.cc.ukans.edu > Susie Krill wrote: > > I know I saw a "Stump" query last week--which I deleted even though > something > > about the name seemed familiar. Yesterday evening I was reading through my > > grandmother's scrap book (she saved alot of obituaries and other interesting > > > events) when I came across information about Stump/Neighbors. Here is the > > info I have garnered regarding this group: > > > > Levi Stump was married to a Mahalia Rush--they resided in Indiana when they > > left for Kansas in September 1866 by covered wagon and settled in the Spring > > > River Valley east of Columbus in 1867. In 1868/9 Levi and his father (no > name > > mentioned) erected and operated a corn mill on Spring River. The mill was > > destroyed by flood in 1875. Mahalia Rush Stump died 1869. Levi Stump died > in > > 1873. > > > > When Levi died he left their children in the care of his brother, George: > > Arminda b. 18 June 1862 Shelby Co., Indiana; one small brother; and one > > sister. > > > > Arminda Stump married George R. Neighbors in 1896. They resided in > Pittsburg, > > also on a farm near Crestline & in 1908 in Columbus. They had 4 children: > > Neville, Ruby, Myrtle and Minnie. Three daughters, Neville, Ruby and Myrtle > > > preceded Arminda in death. (Myrtle and Minnie were twins--and Myrtle died > Feb > > 1940) Minnie married Reverand Wm. J. Marshall--resided in Iowa and > Colorado. > > > > Also considered as family--Will Vandament (my grandfather) who was raised by > > > the Neighbors--and Belle Kapple. > > > > My grandfather's stories about the Neighbors is this: He "was boarded out > to > > Uncle George and Matilda Neighbours when some 4 1/2 years old at $1.25 per > > week--this must have been in 1888. They were farm tennants of Belle Markum, > > > the farm being the east half of the northeast of sec. 2 twp range 25, > Cherokee > > Co., KS--a mile south of Lawton, KS, near Spring River--a quarter mile or so > > > south of the mouth of Cow Creek. Maybe 1889 moved to Snyder place about a > mile > > south of Waco School house--had aimed to start school here, maybe did only > for > > a short while if at all. Moved to Stiles place in River bottom, quarter > mile > > or so south across river from Markum place. Uncle George and Ed Altice--Ed > > being the step son of George's sister -- Aunt Net having married Sylvester > > Altice. By the way Aunt had married the widower Levi Stump. Levi was the > > father of Arminda Stump Neighbours. Levi died leaving Aunt Net-Annetti-a > > forty acres of land which > > according to one story made her an attractive offering to Altice. While > > logging on this Stiles place Ed Altice wanted to use timber royal belong to > > landower Uncle George Stamp and as Uncle George Neighbour not hear to it -- > Ed > > poisoned "Baldy" a fine dapple grey horse belonging to Uncle George > > Neighbours. Adam Grim a neighbor purchased a rope for hanging Ed Altice and > > > it was all Uncle George Neighbours couls do to keep them from hanging Ed > > Altice. Ed left for parts unknown and was not heard from." > > > > My grandfather left some other wonderful stories about the "chuckles of > wagons > > --each one had a different sound. He mentions the Snyder place; an old > scotch > > janitor by the name of Howatt--one of his sons was peg legged and became a > > rather famous petty thief. Another son Alex Howatt was afterward head of > mine > > workers union District #14. > > > > Just thought I'd pass on some of the old timers words... > > > Suzie From: Peggie Ballard <aenmedia@home.com> Fri 10:34 AM Subject: Re: which Levi Stump? To: KTompk7744@aol.com CC: "Ballard, Peggie Knoblauch" <aenmedia@home.com> No, Jan, I don't. I simply posted it as stated from another list I am on. Here is the e-mail of the gal who sent it. If you find out anything, please post to the STUMP list for all to see. Check the ages and dates mentioned in the posting to determine if he could be your JR, or another relative. Thanks. -- Peggie Ballard Oceanside, CA KTompk7744@aol.com On Thu 7:09 PM. Subject: Stump To: ks-kin-l@raven.cc.ukans.edu From: KTompk7744@aol.com wrote: > Do you know when the Levi Stump in the story was born? I've got a Levi Stump > from Noble COunty, IN., whose wife had a diffierent name. My levi Stump was > born 12/14/1830 in Stark County OH, married Sarah Ann Musser 2/9/1854 in > Hancock County OH, died 5/15/1900 in Ligonier, Noble County OH. That's MY levi > Stump. > > But then he had a grandson named Levi Albert Stump (don't know where this Levi > went) who was s/o John W> & Louisa Bradford Weaver Stump. All these folks > are from Indiana. > > Perhaps the Levi Stump in your story somehow ties in with my Stump family. Of > course, these folks kept using the same names over and over just to confuse > me. > > Jan T dweaver wrote: > I am most pleased to see the message about Levi Stump on the Stump list > and would like to contact the lady that composed it. Levi Stump is part > of my line and I have much I can share on him. > Levi Stump is the son of George A. Stump, b. MD 1788 & Sally Cartwright, > b.d. unknown. There were several brothers & sisters. > > Doris > dweaver@fgi.net Original Message: I know I saw a "Stump" query last week--which I deleted even though something about the name seemed familiar. Yesterday evening I was reading through my grandmother's scrap book (she saved alot of obituaries and other interesting events) when I came across information about Stump/Neighbors. Here is the info I have garnered regarding this group: Levi Stump was married to a Mahalia Rush--they resided in Indiana when they left for Kansas in September 1866 by covered wagon and settled in the Spring River Valley east of Columbus in 1867. In 1868/9 Levi and his father (no name mentioned) erected and operated a corn mill on Spring River. The mill was destroyed by flood in 1875. Mahalia Rush Stump died 1869. Levi Stump died in 1873. When Levi died he left their children in the care of his brother, George: Arminda b. 18 June 1862 Shelby Co., Indiana; one small brother; and one sister. Arminda Stump married George R. Neighbors in 1896. They resided in Pittsburg, also on a farm near Crestline & in 1908 in Columbus. They had 4 children: Neville, Ruby, Myrtle and Minnie. Three daughters, Neville, Ruby and Myrtle preceded Arminda in death. (Myrtle and Minnie were twins--and Myrtle died Feb 1940) Minnie married Reverand Wm. J. Marshall--resided in Iowa and Colorado. Also considered as family--Will Vandament (my grandfather) who was raised by the Neighbors--and Belle Kapple. My grandfather's stories about the Neighbors is this: He "was boarded out to Uncle George and Matilda Neighbours when some 4 1/2 years old at $1.25 per week--this must have been in 1888. They were farm tennants of Belle Markum, the farm being the east half of the northeast of sec. 2 twp range 25, Cherokee Co., KS--a mile south of Lawton, KS, near Spring River--a quarter mile or so south of the mouth of Cow Creek. Maybe 1889 moved to Snyder place about a mile south of Waco School house--had aimed to start school here, maybe did only for a short while if at all. Moved to Stiles place in River bottom, quarter mile or so south across river from Markum place. Uncle George and Ed Altice--Ed being the step son of George's sister--Aunt Net having married Sylvester Altice. By the way Aunt had married the widower Levi Stump. Levi was the father of Arminda Stump Neighbours. Levi died leaving Aunt Net-Annetti-a forty acres of land which according to one story made her an attractive offering to Altice. While logging on this Stiles place Ed Altice wanted to use timber royal belong to landower Uncle George Stamp and as Uncle George Neighbour not hear to it--Ed poisoned "Baldy" a fine dapple grey horse belonging to Uncle George Neighbours. Adam Grim a neighbor purchased a rope for hanging Ed Altice and it was all Uncle George Neighbours couls do to keep them from hanging Ed Altice. Ed left for parts unknown and was not heard from." My grandfather left some other wonderful stories about the "chuckles of wagons--each one had a different sound. He mentions the Snyder place; an old scotch janitor by the name of Howatt--one of his sons was peg legged and became a rather famous petty thief. Another son Alex Howatt was afterward head of mine workers union District #14. Just thought I'd pass on some of the old timers words... Suzie

I am most pleased to see the message about Levi Stump on the Stump list and would like to contact the lady that composed it. Levi Stump is part of my line and I have much I can share on him. Levi Stump is the son of George A. Stump, b. MD 1788 & Sally Cartwright, b.d. unknown. There were several brothers & sisters. Doris dweaver@fgi.net

Hi Folks, Just wanted to say that I was recently given wonderful news by a fellow lister on my NYC List....she found my STAMPF, FREIDRICH and wife and baby son on a passenger list! Changed the immigration date I had by two years. They immigrated from Bremen to NY 28 Apr 1862 on the ship "HERMINE"....I've sent for a copy of the passenger list from the Natl Archives! What fun to finally know where they immigrated from and when. Joanie